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I had a conversation with that one too. My guess is she's in for a rude awakening.
[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;5107084]This one reaches our and says she's down for anything except physical intimacy. I respond, that's awesome so you're down for everything except what 99% of the guys are on here for. She said I'm the only guy out of 70 guys she's talked to today that's had a problem with it. If that's true then my decision not to renew will be a smart one.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ArtImperial;5107257]I had a conversation with that one too. My guess is she's in for a rude awakening.[/QUOTE]I can only hope so. The problem is if she reaches out to 100 guys a week and 5 of them are ok with platonic she's probably making decent money.
[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;5106876]There was an equal number of online only profiles prior to Covid, they just have it to use an an excuse now. I'm not exactly sure why there is an influx of scammers right now though. It's always been frustrating deal with these girls but lately it's seemingly impossible to find a legitimate sb that actually wants to meet. I think that between finals and the holiday break that a lot of the college age sbs are just too busy. They still sign on occasionally but to actually have enough of their attention to set something up is virtually impossible.[/QUOTE]In my experience I've seen more online-only after Covid than any other time.
Plus, don't forget, SA has a policy against online-only arrangements. It's only after Covid have they relaxed this policy.
[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;5107084]This one reaches our and says she's down for anything except physical intimacy. I respond, that's awesome so you're down for everything except what 99% of the guys are on here for. She said I'm the only guy out of 70 guys she's talked to today that's had a problem with it. If that's true then my decision not to renew will be a smart one.[/QUOTE]I know this sounds like a broken record but girls on SA lie a LOT, and mean like non-stop. About everything. It baffles me that guys still take what they say at face value. Always assume that she's lying and you'll be pretty much in the right ballpark.
[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;5107895]In my experience I've seen more online-only after Covid than any other time.
Plus, don't forget, SA has a policy against online-only arrangements. It's only after Covid have they relaxed this policy.[/QUOTE]SA had stopped enforcing that policy even before covid. I stopped reporting them because the profiles always stayed up. They seem to have made the decision that it was better to have more female profiles, even if they were fake, than not. Conversely, they ban guys in a heartbeat, and keep what's left of the subscription.
The only thing that I think has changed is the volume and % of new profiles seeking that. I guess Covid is a more believable excuse to not be able to meet than the previous dog ate my homework sh*t like I'm out of town, need to build trust, car in the shop, no gas money, having surgery, sick, relative in the hospital, broken foot, finals week, etc. And there must be more guys willing to do online because of not wanting to meet due to covid, which is understandable depending on their situation, but for the life of me I can't figure out how in the hell buying some pics and vids from some stranger you're never going to meet b / c she's playing you and likely nowhere near her listed location is any better than free porn on the internet. But the sheer volume of the profiles makes it clear more guys are falling for it.
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[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5108146]I know this sounds like a broken record but girls on SA lie a LOT, and mean like non-stop. About everything. It baffles me that guys still take what they say at face value. Always assume that she's lying and you'll be pretty much in the right ballpark.[/QUOTE]This is the mind set. I discovered over the past week that my ATF lied to me pretty much every day of the 18 months we were SD / SB. It was an incredible fantasy while it was going on--she was amazing at her SB job.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/06ca7c08-0422-459e-93eb-85b7190f9e0c[/URL]
These two are back on again after long disappearance, lesbos into each other all they want is your money and nothing in return got burned by them once just waiting for them to be back on now I see them.
Don't bother have gotten some tits flashing and fondling but beyond that nothing to write about after few $$ dollars each time.
?Have been contact with several almost all of them are fakes and all they want is online even after their profile says otherwise lots of fakes and liers as always may be more now.
[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;5106255]I'm taking a break now from SA, just seeing the ones that I've seen in the past.
Will re-join after vaccine comes out. So there is no online-only BS to deal with.[/QUOTE]There has always been some degree of online-only BS to deal with and I predict that it will not diminish any time in the future. It's just too easy for women to try that on there. SA doesn't care and thus it exists.
I agree SA has really gone down as a result of the number of SB's who just want to chat. I can't bring myself to continue paying for that bs. My regular Asian SB graduated from W&M and now I'm searching for one. Anyone who has a contact number to an Asian petite SB I'd greatly appreciate it.
[QUOTE=August23;5109233]I agree SA has really gone down as a result of the number of SB's who
I currently am a non paying member of both Seeking Arrangements and Secret Benefits. I know that there are many scammers on both, but my experience with Secret Benefits is that as soon as I get an email from SB of new member ladies, I will get a message from quite a few ladies. I have listed a high income on SB with no net worth listed, have no picture shown, and my age is listed in the late 60's as well as being married. But no matter how much I look at profiles on Seeking, I get very very few messages. Can all of these young ladies on SB be fakes? Why do the fakes on SA not contact me, not that I would want them to? I have not been a paying member of SB for a couple years when I did connect with a nice sugar baby who I still see occasionally when either of us get the itch and it can work on both of our schedules.
YK there are these things called copulins, they are found in vaginal secretions, they increase testosterone and libido. So, when you go down on your SB, you're cranking yourself up. LOL.
You'd think there would be a market for a synthetic version, but I understand they're just assorted small acidic compounds. If a girl's pussy is more bitter tasting, perhaps she has more. Any experiences?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5110331]YK there are these things called copulins, they are found in vaginal secretions, they increase testosterone and libido. So, when you go down on your SB, you're cranking yourself up. LOL.
You'd think there would be a market for a synthetic version, but I understand they're just assorted small acidic compounds. If a girl's pussy is more bitter tasting, perhaps she has more. Any experiences?[/QUOTE]Dunno about SBs, but I had a GF that had a pussy that was like catnip to me. Seriously, I could just get between her lets and breath in her pussy all day long while I nibbled and licked.
Miss that one.
[QUOTE=Passport4;5110195]I currently am a non paying member of both Seeking Arrangements and Secret Benefits. I know that there are many scammers on both, but my experience with Secret Benefits is that as soon as I get an email from SB of new member ladies, I will get a message from quite a few ladies. I have listed a high income on SB with no net worth listed, have no picture shown, and my age is listed in the late 60's as well as being married. But no matter how much I look at profiles on Seeking, I get very very few messages. Can all of these young ladies on SB be fakes? Why do the fakes on SA not contact me, not that I would want them to? I have not been a paying member of SB for a couple years when I did connect with a nice sugar baby who I still see occasionally when either of us get the itch and it can work on both of our schedules.[/QUOTE]On SA are you viewing profiles and then sitting back and waiting for them to message you? Not a good strategy. Message them. Only a smallish percentage will reply, for various reasons. Many women put up profiles, have fun browsing and seeing who writes to them, with rather little intention of actually meeting someone. It's a numbers game, that's all.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5111853]On SA are you viewing profiles and then sitting back and waiting for them to message you? Not a good strategy. Message them. Only a smallish percentage will reply, for various reasons. Many women put up profiles, have fun browsing and seeing who writes to them, with rather little intention of actually meeting someone. It's a numbers game, that's all.[/QUOTE]You need to be a paying member to contact women on SA and to read their messages. If you don't pay, all you can be is a voyeur.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5111853]On SA are you viewing profiles and then sitting back and waiting for them to message you? Not a good strategy. Message them. Only a smallish percentage will reply, for various reasons. Many women put up profiles, have fun browsing and seeing who writes to them, with rather little intention of actually meeting someone. It's a numbers game, that's all.[/QUOTE]I get that. I haven't been paid on SB for a long time, but usually pay SA every 4-6 months for a month and play the numbers game. I was just commenting and asking about SB since the ladies appear more aggressive when new and this doesn't happen on SA leading me to believe SB has more fakes. With Covid and being in the vulnerable age group, I'm on hiatus at the moment and don't need to be paying when I'm not willing to meet.
[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;5100635]The one time I tried to make a date with a Siren girl I was told I has to call back after 9 pm to see who was available. Then when I called after 9 she said no one is available LOL. They only have like 6 girls listed on their site and I can't wait until 9 pm to hope I can meet someone and who knows who will even be available.[/QUOTE]That's why I always make an appointment instead of trying to get someone last minute. The girls work when they want to. They don't work Monday through Friday 9 to 5. There are only a few girls that are listed on the website. They get new girls all of the time esp.
After Covid. The majority of the girls are normal college chicks looking for part time money. They don't want to advertise to their families and co-workers that they work for a company like that. They've always been there when I get fed up with SA. I guess I thought I would find a reliable GFE on SA, but they are always short lived and the girls are usually psychologically damaged. I can only stomach a month or 2 on SA.
I thought I saw a post a few months back that someone had been seeing sunflowerhoneyb from SA - 19 yo Asian VCU student.
I was messaging her around the 1st of the year but never could schedule an M&G and I got the impression that she hadn't yet met anyone and was probably just checking things so I backed off. I haven't kept my SA profile up for a few months.
Last week she popped up as "someone you might know" on FB so I sent a friend request and she accepted. I told her I remembered her from SA and asked if she was still interested and she said yes. Hoping to set something up soon.
If anyone can give me some info I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks and be safe!
[QUOTE=SDDude1;5112185]That's why I always make an appointment instead of trying to get someone last minute. The girls work when they want to. They don't work Monday through Friday 9 to 5. There are only a few girls that are listed on the website. They get new girls all of the time esp.
After Covid. The majority of the girls are normal college chicks looking for part time money. They don't want to advertise to their families and co-workers that they work for a company like that. They've always been there when I get fed up with SA. I guess I thought I would find a reliable GFE on SA, but they are always short lived and the girls are usually psychologically damaged. I can only stomach a month or 2 on SA.[/QUOTE]How can you make an appt if you don't even know until 9 pm who's working?
So based on the reivews I have been reading is it safe to say that it isn't worth going on SA? I read on here that a lot just want to chat. Plus I have seen a huge increase in SB advertising on civi dating sites. Should I wait until after the holidays? Just curious what people think.
I would wait, most or the girls are giving the same excuses that they can't meetup because of the increase cases of coronavirus. My account expires early Jan, and I'm not planning to renew. That's depending if you already have a few SBs on your rotation. There are a few girls that are down for meeting up, but the prices are high, because of demand.
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5116177]So based on the reivews I have been reading is it safe to say that it isn't worth going on SA? I read on here that a lot just want to chat. Plus I have seen a huge increase in SB advertising on civi dating sites. Should I wait until after the holidays? Just curious what people think.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FanRat;5115557]I thought I saw a post a few months back that someone had been seeing sunflowerhoneyb from SA - 19 yo Asian VCU student.
I was messaging her around the 1st of the year but never could schedule an M&G and I got the impression that she hadn't yet met anyone and was probably just checking things so I backed off. I haven't kept my SA profile up for a few months.
Last week she popped up as "someone you might know" on FB so I sent a friend request and she accepted. I told her I remembered her from SA and asked if she was still interested and she said yes. Hoping to set something up soon.
If anyone can give me some info I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks and be safe![/QUOTE]Shannon has met at least someone LOL. And told me she has had other SD's nail her. I was talking to her again on SA this month and she mentioned she has a boyfriend and wasn't looking for sex. Just as an FYI she does have a few friends who are active on SA so if you are a frequent flyer she will probably ask around.
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5116177]So based on the reivews I have been reading is it safe to say that it isn't worth going on SA? I read on here that a lot just want to chat. Plus I have seen a huge increase in SB advertising on civi dating sites. Should I wait until after the holidays? Just curious what people think.[/QUOTE]I just wrapped up a months subscription. As always YMMV but for me it was great, tried a lot of college girls and have a few that I continue to see.
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5116342]I just wrapped up a months subscription. As always YMMV but for me it was great, tried a lot of college girls and have a few that I continue to see.[/QUOTE]This. I've been out of the country for the last couple of weeks and had a lot of down time so I tried a new approach. Instead of finding a girl or two and focusing on trying to get them to the FC I cast a wide net and started talking to 15-20 of my ideal sb type (18-21 yo white slim low volume). I focused on each one like they were my only sb and not that I am back on the states I have 6 that are genuinely ready to meet me.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5093296]Looks good from what I can see, but horrible at messaging / texting and seems to have had some bad experiences. Yet here she is. INput?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b3dfde16-5dcd-4f86-a614-816d090dbc8d[/URL][/QUOTE]Got her texting a little while she was in finals. Finally resurfaced and said "not comfortable "doing" a married man. Caused problems for my parents, don't want to repeat that".
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5116338]Shannon has met at least someone LOL. And told me she has had other SD's nail her. I was talking to her again on SA this month and she mentioned she has a boyfriend and wasn't looking for sex. Just as an FYI she does have a few friends who are active on SA so if you are a frequent flyer she will probably ask around.[/QUOTE]She hasnt responded about an M&G yet so Ill see what happens I guess.
I have met this girl a while back not sure if she is open to FC it was simple M&G she will meet you and did not ask for any money but I gave her 50 I think but don't think she will be up for FC. If you are succesful please let us know. Good luck.
[QUOTE=FanRat;5115557]I thought I saw a post a few months back that someone had been seeing sunflowerhoneyb from SA - 19 yo Asian VCU student.
I was messaging her around the 1st of the year but never could schedule an M&G and I got the impression that she hadn't yet met anyone and was probably just checking things so I backed off. I haven't kept my SA profile up for a few months.
Last week she popped up as "someone you might know" on FB so I sent a friend request and she accepted. I told her I remembered her from SA and asked if she was still interested and she said yes. Hoping to set something up soon.
If anyone can give me some info I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks and be safe![/QUOTE]
Anyone had any luck with Daisy, 35 yr Asian.
I had conversations with this one. There's drama there, friends. Pursue at your own risk. .
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5116338]Shannon has met at least someone LOL. And told me she has had other SD's nail her. I was talking to her again on SA this month and she mentioned she has a boyfriend and wasn't looking for sex. Just as an FYI she does have a few friends who are active on SA so if you are a frequent flyer she will probably ask around.[/QUOTE]
She a semi pro who setup a new account every few months. She up and down NOVA and Richmond. Big fake tits, nice body, but has a little bit of a stomach. She also a heavy drinker. 300 and will bbfs if your a regular.
[QUOTE=August23;5117742]Anyone had any luck with Daisy, 35 yr Asian.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=S2568;5117703]I have met this girl a while back not sure if she is open to FC it was simple M&G she will meet you and did not ask for any money but I gave her 50 I think but don't think she will be up for FC. If you are succesful please let us know. Good luck.[/QUOTE]When I was talking to her months ago I made my expectations clear and she said she was ok with intimacy. But like I said I got the impression she hadn't actually gone to the FC just yet.
I will certainly keep you posted if anything develops.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5116338]Shannon has met at least someone LOL. And told me she has had other SD's nail her. I was talking to her again on SA this month and she mentioned she has a boyfriend and wasn't looking for sex. Just as an FYI she does have a few friends who are active on SA so if you are a frequent flyer she will probably ask around.[/QUOTE]We have been texting the last few days still trying to schedule an M&G. She just finished up classes and I am going to try to meet as soon as possible so it doesn't just become an endless text fest like it was before.
She hasn't mentioned a BF or that she is not looking for anything sexual. Her FB profile doesn't mention a BF either but that generally doesn't mean anything. She had said before she was ok with intimacy. I guess I will see what happens.
For whatever reason a few months ago SA decided that the phrase "friends with mutual benefits" in my profile (had been there at least a year) was promoting prostitution and they banned me so I decided not to give them my money any longer. It had become waaaaaaaaaaay too much work sifting through the fakes and online only chicks anyway. I have had some decent luck trading info about UTRs with other mongers the last few months anyway so I haven't missed it although I have to admit the 18 to 22 yo crowd on SA is pretty alluring! Needless to say I haven't been on in a while and don't know if I have talked with or met any of her friends.
I will keep the board updated if anything interesting happens.
Thanks!
Shannon confirmed this morning that she is not looking for intimacy. Luckily before I spent the time and money on an M&G.
I guess there are so many girls going that route and so many guys willing to pay for it that even girls who used to be DTF are trying to get money for nothing.
A sad state of affairs.
Thanks all and be safe!
[QUOTE=FanRat;5118712]We have been texting the last few days still trying to schedule an M&G. She just finished up classes and I am going to try to meet as soon as possible so it doesn't just become an endless text fest like it was before.
She hasn't mentioned a BF or that she is not looking for anything sexual. Her FB profile doesn't mention a BF either but that generally doesn't mean anything. She had said before she was ok with intimacy. I guess I will see what happens.
For whatever reason a few months ago SA decided that the phrase "friends with mutual benefits" in my profile (had been there at least a year) was promoting prostitution and they banned me so I decided not to give them my money any longer. It had become waaaaaaaaaaay too much work sifting through the fakes and online only chicks anyway. I have had some decent luck trading info about UTRs with other mongers the last few months anyway so I haven't missed it although I have to admit the 18 to 22 yo crowd on SA is pretty alluring! Needless to say I haven't been on in a while and don't know if I have talked with or met any of her friends.
I will keep the board updated if anything interesting happens.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Main reason I don't plan to renew my SA account this Jan. Just plan to go underground with my current set if SBs till March. I'm tried of all the new SBs that want online only, but don't post it on their profile. The prices are jumping even higher with the ones who do agree to meetup.
[QUOTE=FanRat;5120022]Shannon confirmed this morning that she is not looking for intimacy. Luckily before I spent the time and money on an M&G.
I guess there are so many girls going that route and so many guys willing to pay for it that even girls who used to be DTF are trying to get money for nothing.
A sad state of affairs.
Thanks all and be safe![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lobsid;5120082]Main reason I don't plan to renew my SA account this Jan. Just plan to go underground with my current set if SBs till March. I'm tried of all the new SBs that want online only, but don't post it on their profile. The prices are jumping even higher with the ones who do agree to meetup.[/QUOTE]I just deleted my account a few days ago for the exact same reasons. If I hear things have changed then I'll create a new account, but I'm comfortable with the ones I've met so far. They should keep me for a while.
The final straw was when I contacted a Someone on SA and her first response was "if you want to keep the conversation going here's my Venmo. ".
Most of the online only ones don't put Platonic in their profile so you can't weed them out from the start. SA has become too much work. The ones who you think are DTF want a deposit. I was born on a day but it wasn't yesterday.
I'll probably get back on once the Covid vaccine is readily available to everyone and the SB's can't use that as an excuse anymore.
[QUOTE=GeechieDan;5120181]I just deleted my account a few days ago for the exact same reasons. If I hear things have changed then I'll create a new account, but I'm comfortable with the ones I've met so far. They should keep me for a while.
The final straw was when I contacted a Someone on SA and her first response was "if you want to keep the conversation going here's my Venmo. ".
Most of the online only ones don't put Platonic in their profile so you can't weed them out from the start. SA has become too much work. The ones who you think are DTF want a deposit. I was born on a day but it wasn't yesterday.
I'll probably get back on once the Covid vaccine is readily available to everyone and the SB's can't use that as an excuse anymore.[/QUOTE]Mmmm more for me. There have always been lots of looky-loo's on the site out of curiosity, or half-serious about it, having heard some fantasy story on some chick's blog that they can land a wealthy fish that just wants platonic long-distance phone calls or feet pics. Covid has just given them a more plausible excuse, but they would've come up with one either way. Of course, there are some that live with elderly and are at risk, but those are rare and who really cares what their excuse is anyway. None of it bothers me. Anyone not willing to meet for any reason, just goes quickly into the discard pile. I have found plenty that are more than willing to meet, but it does take at least a few hours or work every week.
[QUOTE=CarloRogue;5120394]Mmmm more for me. There have always been lots of looky-loo's on the site out of curiosity, or half-serious about it, having heard some fantasy story on some chick's blog that they can land a wealthy fish that just wants platonic long-distance phone calls or feet pics. Covid has just given them a more plausible excuse, but they would've come up with one either way. Of course, there are some that live with elderly and are at risk, but those are rare and who really cares what their excuse is anyway. None of it bothers me. Anyone not willing to meet for any reason, just goes quickly into the discard pile. I have found plenty that are more than willing to meet, but it does take at least a few hours or work every week.[/QUOTE]Agreed; there are always girls on sa who try the platonic only thing, or pre-pay scam, etc. Sure it takes a few hours investment, but when you find a good one it's great. It's not for everyone especially guys coming from the escort sites who are used to making contact with someone who is automatically available; you have to work it a bit on sa but you get an entirely different caliber of girl.
[QUOTE=FanRat;5120022] I guess there are so many girls going that route and so many guys willing to pay for it that even girls who used to be DTF are trying to get money for nothing.
A sad state of affairs.[/QUOTE]Yep. Tried to start up again with a SB I was seeing for most of the past year. She responded that she's not doing that anymore but suggested I subscribe to her OnlyFans instead. No thanks.
Just tried of the games. Nothing wrong about taking a break and just enjoying my current SBs. I have 5 SBs right now. I'm collecting numbers, and setup a few dates before my account expires. Probably will setup a new account later down the road.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5121506]Agreed; there are always girls on sa who try the platonic only thing, or pre-pay scam, etc. Sure it takes a few hours investment, but when you find a good one it's great. It's not for everyone especially guys coming from the escort sites who are used to making contact with someone who is automatically available; you have to work it a bit on sa but you get an entirely different caliber of girl.[/QUOTE]