[QUOTE=Jiciki;5137112]Anybody know Tiffany's hours and / or damage at Saigon?[/QUOTE]She has a webpage. Learn to search the Forum. All the information you need is there.
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[QUOTE=Jiciki;5137112]Anybody know Tiffany's hours and / or damage at Saigon?[/QUOTE]She has a webpage. Learn to search the Forum. All the information you need is there.
[QUOTE=BReacher99;5136991]What was the damage?[/QUOTE]Sarah quoted $140/ hr three months ago.
[QUOTE=MSmithy;5135394]Any links to her posts, thanks.[/QUOTE]SEARCH USING "Waterford".
[QUOTE=LopezJavi34;5136210]Both Novi ladies will be rubbing together.[/QUOTE]OK, so I think I've got it now. It's.
Emma: [URL]https://harlothub.com/united-states/michigan/detroit/massage/248-686-1646-2615710.html[/URL].
And Natasha: [URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/3011842[/URL].
But NOT this "Natasha" [URL]https://www.craigserotica.com/detroit/body-rubs-independents/25322.htm[/URL].
Do I have that right?
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5137458]Sarah quoted $140/ hr three months ago.[/QUOTE]She charges a lot more than that now.
[QUOTE=Lamarr;5134347]I know she doesn't have 100% love here, but there must be a reason why there's such a bi-modal range of ratings. It's either love or hate, no middle ground.
I've seen her three times after seeing Celine once at Saigon. And every experience has been awesome. Each appointment provided more service than the prior. I've never been rushed. The last session she was late, but there definitely was some scheduling snafu between her and the front desk. And yep, she is beautiful (yes, work has been done).
Disclaimer: I've been Covid-cautious, probably haven't seen her since July. Maybe things are different now.[/QUOTE]There is no front desk. Tiffany is the front desk. That's part of the problem. You call to book with Jenny or someone else. Tiffany puts you on her own schedule until that's full. When you show up you get her or someone else that may free-up in the next 20 minutes. The other ladies do the same with no regard to your intentions. She needs to hire a receptionist. Stop stealing clients and double booking.
Went to the place you guys call SWB, but at first I thought that meant Sluts With Benefits. Got an hour, really good massagie. She seemed to make sure my hips were grinding into the table a little bit most of the time, that was very helpful in getting warmed up and also letting me know it would end well, and it did.
My go-to was Van Dyke Spa, but it appears they have had some personnel turnover and it's not as good as it used to be. VDS does have heated tables which are really nice, SWB doesn't have that. The new girls at VDS are not as good at the massage, and they are very paranoid of the virus. Must wear mask after the flip, and the girl wears a mask and face shield, which is just weird in my opinion. Have fun,
PK.
[QUOTE=SpankyBeAtIt;5128689]The new place next to Wasabi on grand river is hit or miss. One time had basically 100% teasing until the solid finish, and the 2nd time there was no teasing and in fact told no UNTIL the massage was over and had to pay for overtime (HE) like the HE time was the extra innings. Had to pay for extra time and the tip. Not worth the drama.[/QUOTE]Where or what place is next to Wasabi in Novi? I tried to look at the places there but didn't see it. Is it the salon?
[QUOTE=TridentD;5104769]I made my regular visit to see the girls this morning. No need for details. Anybody that has seen them knows it is a good time. Bonita told me that she is ordering a milking table today. Who knows when it will arrive with all the Christmas shipping demand? Anyway, good to know it is coming. Lisa is there every Tuesday and this Thursday as well.[/QUOTE]I tried to book with them yesterday but got shut out. Luckily, I was able to get a 4 hand appointment for tomorrow. It will be a New Year's Eve balls drop.
Been out of the game for awhile but recently got back into it. I've gone back through many pages to see if Sarah's info was available on here but couldn't find anything besides some expired Craigslist links. If anyone wouldn't mind PMing me her info, it would be much appreciated! Would love to set something up with her while I'm in town and would happily write a review afterwards as well. Thanks in advance and happy holidays!
Managed to make my way out to the area to visit SWB for the first time. Overall positive experience for dipping my toes in, massage better than most and better than my expectations, they also have better COVID precautions than I expected as well. If I'm out in the area I'll definitely go again.
Alright friends, I know there's a lot of reviews and requests for these ladies contacts on here. Read the reviews, utilised the search bar, however all I could come up with as far as contexts go were dead links and old phone numbers.
Anyone want to help a guy out?
[QUOTE=AngusGuy;5137841]There is no front desk. Tiffany is the front desk. That's part of the problem. You call to book with Jenny or someone else. Tiffany puts you on her own schedule until that's full. When you show up you get her or someone else that may free-up in the next 20 minutes. The other ladies do the same with no regard to your intentions. She needs to hire a receptionist. Stop stealing clients and double booking.[/QUOTE]If customers who request a specific gal arrive and realize their service is from another gal, they should walk out. Only then, will this ensure she doesn't steal and would also increase her service performance to actually keep them coming to her. When booking over the phone, they should also specify if they don't get the girl they want, they will walk out. They need your business more than we need them.
[QUOTE=HungaryMan;5137951]Where or what place is next to Wasabi in Novi? I tried to look at the places there but didn't see it. Is it the salon?[/QUOTE]It's the far left of the yellow building with the long porch. Sign above door reads something like well being chiropractic or something like that. Maybe that was the business there before or maybe it's their cover name to sound legit?
I reviewed the heavier one (Lucy? I think was her name) but sounds like Angela is the better of the 2. Is pricey ($80 up front) and they are looking for $60+ in tip.
How much hand roaming does Emma allow? And does she do bodysliding or anything like that.
I was in the area and decided to give it a try on a Sunday. I suspect from other reviews that I saw Tiffany however I didn't ask for her name. Massage was so so but HE was solid with warm gel HJ. Quoted me 300 for FS which was a hard pass. She was attractive but I'm more economical and that is good money for 3 other providers LOL.
I doubt I would repeat but it was nice to check off my list.
Checked out Chinese massage in the plaza next to the sub shop. Typical 1 hr massage. $70 and tipped $20.4 girls working I had the place to myself. One fellow monger came in about 45 minutes into my massage. Standard finish nothing special.
[QUOTE=FunStuff99;5138736]I was in the area and decided to give it a try on a Sunday. I suspect from other reviews that I saw Tiffany however I didn't ask for her name. Massage was so so but HE was solid with warm gel HJ. Quoted me 300 for FS which was a hard pass. She was attractive but I'm more economical and that is good money for 3 other providers LOL.
I doubt I would repeat but it was nice to check off my list.[/QUOTE]That was Tiffany without a doubt. $$$ For less than 1 hour? I'm not sure the famous Geoffrey Fieger charges that much. However he doesn't offer nude HJ, BBBJCIMWS, DATY or BBFS either. So your dollars are your business. Expensive trip on the Merry Go Round if that's your thing. Jenny at Saigon charges way less and does everything Tiffany does if not better. Unfortunately Jenny only works Sunday now as she has her own place. Call ahead next time even if you're in the parking lot. Covid relief money coming. Treat yourself if you dare. Start 2021 with a bang! Excuse the metaphor.
https://saigonspaferndale.wixsite.com/home
[QUOTE=AngusGuy;5138995]That was Tiffany without a doubt. $$$ For less than 1 hour? I'm not sure the famous Geoffrey Fieger charges that much. However he doesn't offer nude HJ, BBBJCIMWS, DATY or BBFS either. So your dollars are your business. Expensive trip on the Merry Go Round if that's your thing. Jenny at Saigon charges way less and does everything Tiffany does if not better. Unfortunately Jenny only works Sunday now as she has her own place. Call ahead next time even if you're in the parking lot. Covid relief money coming. Treat yourself if you dare. Start 2021 with a bang! Excuse the metaphor.
https://saigonspaferndale.wixsite.com/home[/QUOTE]Are you saying that Tiffany is doing BBFS?. Wow!. Didn't know that.
[QUOTE=AngusGuy;5137841]There is no front desk. Tiffany is the front desk. That's part of the problem. You call to book with Jenny or someone else. Tiffany puts you on her own schedule until that's full. When you show up you get her or someone else that may free-up in the next 20 minutes. The other ladies do the same with no regard to your intentions. She needs to hire a receptionist. Stop stealing clients and double booking.[/QUOTE]This happened at Diamond Spa too. Asked for Coco, go there at my APPOINTMENT time, she's unavailable. I get a veteran named YoYo. On the plus side, her menu was more open. She was savvy enough to provide her personal cell for future appointments. She has since left for Brooklyn, NY.
Coco is worth the trip. Excellent deep tissue massage. Pleasant, not very talkative. Assumes you want some teasing and a HE. Mask stayed on.
$70 to start, tip $30 -40.
PM me if you need her number.
Hey all, its been awhile since I posted a review. Here's what I've been up to over the last few weeks / mths.
Waterford Sarah: Most of the other reviews hit the nail on the head with this women. She's beautiful, welcoming, accommodating and as kinky as they come. Massage is actually top notch and the finish is even better. I'm not a FS guy so my visits consist of a solid massage, some rimming, and a solid BBBJ. She doesn't rush and I pay $$. Her comms are spotty at times and you may actually only see her 1 out of 3 times you make an appointment. She tends to cancel on you often. I've seen her a few times and always enjoy myself. From what I've heard she's moving down to FL around the end of Jan. I'd still recommend.
Lynn: Much, much, much older women. I'd say in her late 60's. Massage is sub-par at best but the finish is alright, HJ only. Payed the posted amount for the hr, $. 40. She's is very sweet and up beat but not my type. I won't repeat.
SWB / Ellie: Pretty standard visit at SWB. This is always a solid go-to for me. Ellie is beautiful, stunning face and a killer body. The massage was just alright. She only used oil for the last few minutes before the flip (which was surprising). I prefer oil for the massage portion. There was decent teasing and a pretty standard HJ finish. OTC roaming was aloud but nothing more (pretty standard here). Paid. 80 house and. 60 tip. I'd repeat. Before Jennie left I saw her a few times and she was my requested provider. IMO she offers an better massage than Ellie and a wonderful prostate check to go along with the standard finish. Ellie is better looking but Jennie take the cake for performance.
Novi Natasha: I've seen her many times and reviewed her often. Not much different from my previous visits. Nice relaxing massage, some ass play, solid edging HJ until the end and finished in Russia. She's probably the closest I've found to a true GFE. Paid $$ for the hr. I'd repeat.
Next on my list is the duo from Emma and Natasha, Yoko at Famous and Angelina in Midtown. Ill report bck!
Happy Holidays boys!
Vrx.
[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5139260]Hey all, its been awhile since I posted a review. Here's what I've been up to over the last few weeks / mths.
Waterford Sarah: Most of the other reviews hit the nail on the head with this women. She's beautiful, welcoming, accommodating and as kinky as they come. Massage is actually top notch and the finish is even better. I'm not a FS guy so my visits consist of a solid massage, some rimming, and a solid BBBJ. She doesn't rush and I pay $$. Her comms are spotty at times and you may actually only see her 1 out of 3 times you make an appointment. She tends to cancel on you often. I've seen her a few times and always enjoy myself. From what I've heard she's moving down to FL around the end of Jan. I'd still recommend.
Lynn: Much, much, much older women. I'd say in her late 60's. Massage is sub-par at best but the finish is alright, HJ only. Payed the posted amount for the hr, $. 40. She's is very sweet and up beat but not my type. I won't repeat.
SWB / Ellie: Pretty standard visit at SWB. This is always a solid go-to for me. Ellie is beautiful, stunning face and a killer body. The massage was just alright. She only used oil for the last few minutes before the flip (which was surprising). I prefer oil for the massage portion. There was decent teasing and a pretty standard HJ finish. OTC roaming was aloud but nothing more (pretty standard here). Paid. 80 house and. 60 tip. I'd repeat. Before Jennie left I saw her a few times and she was my requested provider. IMO she offers an better massage than Ellie and a wonderful prostate check to go along with the standard finish. Ellie is better looking but Jennie take the cake for performance.
Novi Natasha: I've seen her many times and reviewed her often. Not much different from my previous visits. Nice relaxing massage, some ass play, solid edging HJ until the end and finished in Russia. She's probably the closest I've found to a true GFE. Paid $$ for the hr. I'd repeat.
Next on my list is the duo from Emma and Natasha, Yoko at Famous and Angelina in Midtown. Ill report bck!
Happy Holidays boys!
Vrx.[/QUOTE]Jenny is supposedly at Alice Spa in Shelby now based on reports. Haven't verified myself, but yes, her prostate massage is fantastic. Perhaps I'm getting too graphic, but something about her finger in you while getting a HJ makes for a fantastic finish, very intense. Jenny also allows more roaming than is typical at the local HJ places so glad to hear she's still around.
I might be in the minority here, but the prettiest girl at SWB to me is Hannah.
Has anyone had an experience at Great Hands Massage on Greenfield Rd north on 11 Mi in Berkley? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5139260]Hey all, its been awhile since I posted a review. Here's what I've been up to over the last few weeks / mths.
Waterford Sarah: Most of the other reviews hit the nail on the head with this women. She's beautiful, welcoming, accommodating and as kinky as they come. Massage is actually top notch and the finish is even better. I'm not a FS guy so my visits consist of a solid massage, some rimming, and a solid BBBJ. She doesn't rush and I pay $$. Her comms are spotty at times and you may actually only see her 1 out of 3 times you make an appointment. She tends to cancel on you often. I've seen her a few times and always enjoy myself. From what I've heard she's moving down to FL around the end of Jan. I'd still recommend.
Lynn: Much, much, much older women. I'd say in her late 60's. Massage is sub-par at best but the finish is alright, HJ only. Payed the posted amount for the hr, $. 40. She's is very sweet and up beat but not my type. I won't repeat.
SWB / Ellie: Pretty standard visit at SWB. This is always a solid go-to for me. Ellie is beautiful, stunning face and a killer body. The massage was just alright. She only used oil for the last few minutes before the flip (which was surprising). I prefer oil for the massage portion. There was decent teasing and a pretty standard HJ finish. OTC roaming was aloud but nothing more (pretty standard here). Paid. 80 house and. 60 tip. I'd repeat. Before Jennie left I saw her a few times and she was my requested provider. IMO she offers an better massage than Ellie and a wonderful prostate check to go along with the standard finish. Ellie is better looking but Jennie take the cake for performance..[/QUOTE]Out of curiosity, where did Sarah have you finish?
Does Jenny wear a glove for prostate play or does she bare finger (BFIA?)
[QUOTE=GolDark;5139392]Jenny is supposedly at Alice Spa in Shelby now based on reports. Haven't verified myself, but yes, her prostate massage is fantastic. Perhaps I'm getting too graphic, but something about her finger in you while getting a HJ makes for a fantastic finish, very intense. Jenny also allows more roaming than is typical at the local HJ places so glad to hear she's still around.
I might be in the minority here, but the prettiest girl at SWB to me is Hannah.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FunNights69;5139521]Does Jenny wear a glove for prostate play or does she bare finger (BFIA?)[/QUOTE]The last time I saw her, it was bare.
[QUOTE=LexxxLuthor;5139178]PM me if you need her number.[/QUOTE]Is this the same girl working out of her home that some thought she was a dead fish when it came to FS? She had a add up but can't seem to find it anymore.
Visited Novi Massage (10 mile about 1/2 mile east of Meadowbrook) on Tuesday. Cici is petite thin and attractive, late 40's. She gives a decent massage (straddled my back and used her somewhat boney ass for some deep tissue work). Then went to more light pressure and some tease. On the flip, made flattering compliments about my "size" and nice body etc. And was went straight to rubbing over everything. HOWEVER. She gets the oil and says "you do?" indicating diy. I said "no you do?" To which she shakes her head no. Usually I say no thanks but this time I obliged. She was all about giving assistance though. Touching rubbing squeezing any part of Johnny and the boys that I wasn't. So this leads to my question.
So they can't (or won't) do the actual stroking but do everything else (including dirty talk, moaning, nipple play, allow otc or UTC roaming etc.). Why? Can't be because of the law. Because what they are willing to do is more than enough to get them in trouble. Can't be because of culture / religion because again, they've gone WAY past modesty at that point. Can't be because they have a husband or are saving themselves (or maybe it is that) but again they have definitely crossed a line from strictly professional at that point. Idk. Not that it matters as to WHY they tip toe in the waters, so to speak. I can understand the ones that do HE. I can understand those who don't (. Or those who require draping and are strictly pro. I don't understand the muddy waters of tempting and teasing and then diy.
Any thoughts on this?
Novi Massage was not bad. YMMV. But I wouldn't expect HE. Maybe subsequent visits produce more?
[QUOTE=TullyBlanchard;5139444]Out of curiosity, where did Sarah have you finish?[/QUOTE]She helped me finish in Russia.
[QUOTE=AngusGuy;5138995]That was Tiffany without a doubt. $$$ For less than 1 hour? I'm not sure the famous Geoffrey Fieger charges that much. However he doesn't offer nude HJ, BBBJCIMWS, DATY or BBFS either. So your dollars are your business. Expensive trip on the Merry Go Round if that's your thing. Jenny at Saigon charges way less and does everything Tiffany does if not better. Unfortunately Jenny only works Sunday now as she has her own place. Call ahead next time even if you're in the parking lot. Covid relief money coming. Treat yourself if you dare. Start 2021 with a bang! Excuse the metaphor.
https://saigonspaferndale.wixsite.com/home[/QUOTE]Does Jen have a number? I'd like to set something up at her place instead Of going through Tiffany.
My inbox is open and happy new year!
[QUOTE=JoeTruck;5139617]Is this the same girl working out of her home that some thought she was a dead fish when it came to FS? She had a add up but can't seem to find it anymore.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure, but think you are talking about Jenn in Westland, she does a good BBBJ after a mediocre rub. I haven't tried her F / S, but it is said to be lame, just lies there like a dead fish.
Reading your report, I wondered if you understood. Then I checked your status, senior, I thought that you should know. Then in your final statement you stated that you knew. I believe if you want great service, you need to be a regular. Call it building a relationship. If she was on the verge of assisting, she was letting you know that you can build a relationship. You said that you liked the place and the girl, remember her name and ask for her. Call and schedule with her. And from the beginning, tip well. You found a place where no stranger can walk in and say "HE". Sometimes DIY is the only way in. Of course, if she stands on the other side of the room at this point, was it a great massage.
Speaking of DYI, I haven't read anything about 15 and Vandyke in a very long time.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5140669]Visited Novi Massage (10 mile about 1/2 mile east of Meadowbrook) on Tuesday. Cici is petite thin and attractive, late 40's. She gives a decent massage (straddled my back and used her somewhat boney ass for some deep tissue work). Then went to more light pressure and some tease. On the flip, made flattering compliments about my "size" and nice body etc. And was went straight to rubbing over everything. HOWEVER. She gets the oil and says "you do?" indicating diy. I said "no you do?" To which she shakes her head no. Usually I say no thanks but this time I obliged. She was all about giving assistance though. Touching rubbing squeezing any part of Johnny and the boys that I wasn't. So this leads to my question.
So they can't (or won't) do the actual stroking but do everything else (including dirty talk, moaning, nipple play, allow otc or UTC roaming etc.). Why? Can't be because of the law. Because what they are willing to do is more than enough to get them in trouble. Can't be because of culture / religion because again, they've gone WAY past modesty at that point. Can't be because they have a husband or are saving themselves (or maybe it is that) but again they have definitely crossed a line from strictly professional at that point. Idk. Not that it matters as to WHY they tip toe in the waters, so to speak. I can understand the ones that do HE. I can understand those who don't (. Or those who require draping and are strictly pro. I don't understand the muddy waters of tempting and teasing and then diy.
Any thoughts on this?
Novi Massage was not bad. YMMV. But I wouldn't expect HE. Maybe subsequent visits produce more?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5140669]Visited Novi Massage (10 mile about 1/2 mile east of Meadowbrook) on Tuesday. Cici is petite thin and attractive, late 40's. She gives a decent massage (straddled my back and used her somewhat boney ass for some deep tissue work). Then went to more light pressure and some tease. On the flip, made flattering compliments about my "size" and nice body etc. And was went straight to rubbing over everything. HOWEVER. She gets the oil and says "you do?" indicating diy. I said "no you do?" To which she shakes her head no. Usually I say no thanks but this time I obliged. She was all about giving assistance though. Touching rubbing squeezing any part of Johnny and the boys that I wasn't. So this leads to my question.
So they can't (or won't) do the actual stroking but do everything else (including dirty talk, moaning, nipple play, allow otc or UTC roaming etc.). Why? Can't be because of the law. Because what they are willing to do is more than enough to get them in trouble. Can't be because of culture / religion because again, they've gone WAY past modesty at that point. Can't be because they have a husband or are saving themselves (or maybe it is that) but again they have definitely crossed a line from strictly professional at that point. Idk. Not that it matters as to WHY they tip toe in the waters, so to speak. I can understand the ones that do HE. I can understand those who don't (. Or those who require draping and are strictly pro. I don't understand the muddy waters of tempting and teasing and then diy.
Any thoughts on this?
Novi Massage was not bad. YMMV. But I wouldn't expect HE. Maybe subsequent visits produce more?[/QUOTE]Is the Novi massage that you are referring to actually Asian health?. I've been there and haven't had any issues with having to do it myself.
[QUOTE=GolDark;5139392]Jenny is supposedly at Alice Spa in Shelby now based on reports. Haven't verified myself, but yes, her prostate massage is fantastic. Perhaps I'm getting too graphic, but something about her finger in you while getting a HJ makes for a fantastic finish, very intense. Jenny also allows more roaming than is typical at the local HJ places so glad to hear she's still around.
I might be in the minority here, but the prettiest girl at SWB to me is Hannah.[/QUOTE]I've always preferred Hannah there too.
[QUOTE=GolDark;5139392]Jenny is supposedly at Alice Spa in Shelby now based on reports. Haven't verified myself, but yes, her prostate massage is fantastic. Perhaps I'm getting too graphic, but something about her finger in you while getting a HJ makes for a fantastic finish, very intense. Jenny also allows more roaming than is typical at the local HJ places so glad to hear she's still around.
I might be in the minority here, but the prettiest girl at SWB to me is Hannah.[/QUOTE]Jennie is at Alice Spa, I saw her about 2 weeks ago there.
Any intel on ocean blue spa In southwest Detroit on Mich ave?
[QUOTE=RayLatoole;5140799]Is the Novi massage that you are referring to actually Asian health?. I've been there and haven't had any issues with having to do it myself.[/QUOTE]No Asian health is just past meadowbrook on the north side of 10 mile. This is further east and on the south side of rd (and on the rear of a building). Listing in Yelp is "Novi Massage".
Thanks for the input and I do know full well the value of establishing yourself as a regular. I also know how to immediately demonstrate that I am a safe client and I also tip generously and also detail as to why I have not tipped if service is not good or no extras are offered. I was speaking more in general of the places (or times) others may have experienced the same teasing / touching but still left to DIY. Most times it's either 1. Draping with no touch / tease and absolutely no HE or 2) teasing or some indication / discussion of more being offered. I was referring to what lies between those 2 scenarios.
Not the first time I've experienced it (yes I'm a senior) but always been a lingering question as to why cross the line to touching if they are not willing to follow thru?
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5141167]No Asian health is just past meadowbrook on the north side of 10 mile. This is further east and on the south side of rd (and on the rear of a building). Listing in Yelp is "Novi Massage".
Thanks for the input and I do know full well the value of establishing yourself as a regular. I also know how to immediately demonstrate that I am a safe client and I also tip generously and also detail as to why I have not tipped if service is not good or no extras are offered. I was speaking more in general of the places (or times) others may have experienced the same teasing / touching but still left to DIY. Most times it's either 1. Draping with no touch / tease and absolutely no HE or 2) teasing or some indication / discussion of more being offered. I was referring to what lies between those 2 scenarios.
Not the first time I've experienced it (yes I'm a senior) but always been a lingering question as to why cross the line to touching if they are not willing to follow thru?[/QUOTE]My mistake. I'm referring to Ocean Asian massage on 10 mile (Novi massage is on grand River) sorry for the confusion.
I've tried and reported on 3 Novi area spas so far and none have provided a good / great massage with at least a HE for extra.
So what is the best / most consistent AMP near Novi that fits the description?