"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5089764]I been on it for 8 months. 1st 3 months I was avg 2-3 new girls a month. 4-8 I was avg 3-5 new girls a month. Basically my game has improved. SA is half dating site, so it can be very difficult depending on what your looking for and how you go about doing it. I was less picky about what girls I get with at 1st now I'm a lot more selective. So my numbers could be a lot higher if I wanted to. Also depends on how wide your search area is. All my current SBs are a 8 or higher, but 1 she a 6. I over look that because she has natural DD cups. All 6 of my SBs are 19-26 years old with half of them still in college. My pay membership ends in Dec. I will probably take a break if their isn't a increase of hot college girls.[/QUOTE]Just a suggestion, go get a $100 Vanilla Visa card & renew your membership for another month. By using the Vanilla debit card when SA goes to renew in January it will automatically cancel because not enough $ left on the card.

I've found that December is a great month for coeds & young mothers that might not normally go to the FC. They both need some quick present $. Other hot periods are the end of the month, rent due & for the coeds, January & early February, trying to raise funds to go somewhere fun for spring break. Obviously, probably not as much this year but look at all the people that flew for Thanksgiving.

[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5090430]No offense but I've been in this game for 40 plus so it's not the 90 it's what's the return LOL. I don't throw good money at bad stuff.[/QUOTE]What I'm saying is that even if you only get one good sb to FC then the $90 isn't a bad deal. If you don't want to pay the $90 for easy access to money hungry sb's then you could always try the free routes like tinder etc.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;5090516]Just a suggestion, go get a $100 Vanilla Visa card & renew your membership for another month. By using the Vanilla debit card when SA goes to renew in January it will automatically cancel because not enough $ left on the card.

I've found that December is a great month for coeds & young mothers that might not normally go to the FC. They both need some quick present $. Other hot periods are the end of the month, rent due & for the coeds, January & early February, trying to raise funds to go somewhere fun for spring break. Obviously, probably not as much this year but look at all the people that flew for Thanksgiving.[/QUOTE]I find this time of year until mid January to be a horrible time for the 18-22 yo as they are away from school and busy with family. It's hard to even have a decent conversation with them, much less arrange a time to meet them. If young milfs are your thing then this time of year is perfect. I just don't like the baby damage on the milfs.

My premium account expires in early January. I normal pay 3 months at a time. Just lately I been getting tried of the hunt. I have 6 SBs and only want to replace one of them. I have time to be a little picky. Just want at less one redhead in my line up, but I have zero luck with redheads. Not a fan of girls with baby damage. I replaced all my SBs with kids last month. I don't need a Vanilla Card. I don't say things to get ban on the site, and no one looks at my card statement but me.

Hopefully I can find a hot redhead college student.
[QUOTE=DoggieFan;5090516]Just a suggestion, go get a $100 Vanilla Visa card & renew your membership for another month. By using the Vanilla debit card when SA goes to renew in January it will automatically cancel because not enough $ left on the card.

I've found that December is a great month for coeds & young mothers that might not normally go to the FC. They both need some quick present $. Other hot periods are the end of the month, rent due & for the coeds, January & early February, trying to raise funds to go somewhere fun for spring break. Obviously, probably not as much this year but look at all the people that flew for Thanksgiving.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5090920]. I don't need a Vanilla Card. I don't say things to get ban on the site, and no one looks at my card statement but me.
[/QUOTE]Just remember the Ashley Madison hack.

Good point. Next time I will setup a vanilla card.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5090962]Just remember the Ashley Madison hack.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tidad;5084718]This last one was kicking around backpage a few years ago. Fantastic body, beautiful face but the service / attitude ranged from barely engaged to coldly mechanical and the clock was always a factor. Now that she's trying to get a SD maybe she has warmed up her act but I'd advise you to not call her "Jade".[/QUOTE]She sent me a hot nude body pic. She said "when we meet, I expect a generous allowance" I asked her to define "generous" and she said $1 k.

I replied that in NYC, $1 k gets me a dinner to breakfast, no holes barred experience with a hottie 15 years younger than her.

So she suggested I message them. So I am! And I did refer to her as Jade in the final message but got no reaction.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5091602]She sent me a hot nude body pic. She said "when we meet, I expect a generous allowance" I asked her to define "generous" and she said $1 k.

I replied that in NYC, $1 k gets me a dinner to breakfast, no holes barred experience with a hottie 15 years younger than her.

So she suggested I message them. So I am! And I did refer to her as Jade in the final message but got no reaction.[/QUOTE]She really needs to come back to Earth. She's certainly attractive and her recovery / CrossFit journey has her looking great but that much cash would require something special in the way of attitude / intimacy as well as looks. Too bad her attitude has always SUCKED and the sex was just OK.

Looks good from what I can see, but horrible at messaging / texting and seems to have had some bad experiences. Yet here she is. INput?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b3dfde16-5dcd-4f86-a614-816d090dbc8d[/URL]

Any info on this one? We just started chatting. I tried searching but nothing came up. Thanks.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4c9227fb-78f5-4b72-b93a-2e5e799f3145[/URL]

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5093296]Looks good from what I can see, but horrible at messaging / texting and seems to have had some bad experiences. Yet here she is. INput?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b3dfde16-5dcd-4f86-a614-816d090dbc8d[/URL][/QUOTE]This girl has been on and off S. A. For a while. She is all over the place. I tried to get with her a year or so ago, she got drunk and sent some very nice nude pictures one night. I never meet with her too much high vol. For me.

Who are still on there currently.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b20a78a0-2c84-4eb0-a8ae-2c68c217cb72[/URL]

This one is cute face thicc and met once BBBJ and BBFS nice girl.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ffeb994a-f546-4d0e-853b-940d9db09e7f[/URL]

Nice MILF she was OK but too rural type not very engaged paid too much.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4b4574fd-2a01-4869-bdaa-ccdf8d849a27[/URL]

This one is hot as hell and everything goes all holes open seen her few times still open to seeing her she can fulfill any urges and will do most anything but few instances where she is gotten little freakish but student still working on her degree.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8d9eee00-d154-4268-bb0e-cdbad63a5b86[/URL]

This one is fun but covered seen her once.

The once I really would love to meet but not getting any where.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f457b4ae-523f-4a35-b7a2-2d05ef256c32[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/77061afd-5a5b-4c90-bc64-ef864b57e044[/URL]

Any Asian girls or red heads having tough time getting them.

So, I favorited a profile. Now I can see it in my Favorited list. Then it disappears from the list.

I can view the profile if I paste the link and click. But the profile doesn't show in search or in the list.

But I also favorited from a second profile. She still shows up on that Favorited list...

What setting can the SBs use so that this happens?

Sounds like she block you on the 1st account. Nothing you can do. It's a permanent block.

[QUOTE=LikItFun;5095920]So, I favorited a profile. Now I can see it in my Favorited list. Then it disappears from the list.

I can view the profile if I paste the link and click. But the profile doesn't show in search or in the list.

But I also favorited from a second profile. She still shows up on that Favorited list...

What setting can the SBs use so that this happens?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, she put you on her hidden list, if you can still go to her profile. With block you wouldn't be able to see her profile.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5096141]Sounds like she block you on the 1st account. Nothing you can do. It's a permanent block.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5096535]Sorry, she put you on her hidden list, if you can still go to her profile. With block you wouldn't be able to see her profile.[/QUOTE]They don't hesitate blocking you these days. It have gotten easy for them and the young ones don't have very good communication skills other than texting. Don't take it personal there are a few hundred other options within 50 miles. If you are on the site regularly you will get blocked. Some of the girls that are only looking for free cash on some app and have no intention of meeting you are the first to block you and who knows it may be some guy with his sisters pictures. I am amazed at how many guys create problems for all of us by sending cash for a picture of some female from who knows where. That gets around in the S. A. World and more young girls get on looking for free money. Don't get sucked in to their lies.

Lots of sightly profiles. Most have messaged or texted and seem genuine enough, but no far enough along in the p rocess for any specifics.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e4417663-9006-49b7-8277-5c4090c5cf62[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f5a34df8-c59b-418f-acf5-f96fc7d9442c[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/571d9211-cf4c-4694-a38e-788bb9121c14[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b1545b85-7e02-45e4-adf5-3ae635584d73[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/29e6afd1-2949-4723-96a7-30584711cac3[/URL]

According to two POTS so far, there is a correlation between not wanting to advance them $$ for food or gas and having a small cock.

Sounds like a government funded study is needed.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5097458]According to two POTS so far, there is a correlation between not wanting to advance them $$ for food or gas and having a small cock.

Sounds like a government funded study is needed.[/QUOTE]I love it when these girls get offended because I won't pay them for their amazing nudes or 1 k for an hour of their time. I've been called every name you can imagine. These bitches get ruthless. Another reason why I'm 100% anonymous on seeking including my picture. Not making myself a target.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5097458]According to two POTS so far, there is a correlation between not wanting to advance them $$ for food or gas and having a small cock.

Sounds like a government funded study is needed.[/QUOTE]Ask them how many miles it is to the meet and what gas mileage their car gets. Then send them the $1. 67.

What guys out there are so put out by that they change their minds and say, "well let me prove it's not true, here's the deposit. ".

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5097458]According to two POTS so far, there is a correlation between not wanting to advance them $$ for food or gas and having a small cock.

Sounds like a government funded study is needed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rentahoo;5098143]What guys out there are so put out by that they change their minds and say, "well let me prove it's not true, here's the deposit. ".[/QUOTE]Me! She convinced me, but she blocked me. Foolish girl.

[QUOTE=BaldEagle;5096840]They don't hesitate blocking you these days. It have gotten easy for them and the young ones don't have very good communication skills other than texting. Don't take it personal there are a few hundred other options within 50 miles. If you are on the site regularly you will get blocked. Some of the girls that are only looking for free cash on some app and have no intention of meeting you are the first to block you and who knows it may be some guy with his sisters pictures. I am amazed at how many guys create problems for all of us by sending cash for a picture of some female from who knows where. That gets around in the S. A. World and more young girls get on looking for free money. Don't get sucked in to their lies.[/QUOTE]That's exactly why I'm taking a break from SA. I know that some of the guys on here enjoy the game of hunting. I just want to get laid. I'm tired of blocking, monthly subscriptions, pic sending, deposits and scams. I'm tired of BS altogether. I have too much dignity to argue with a 20 yr old over texting. Alot of the girls came back to SirensVa after the shut down. Kendall's back. You can't get better than that. It's like ordering a pizza. You're definitely right about gay men posing as girls on SA and using a girls picture. They get off on the dirty talk and flirting over text and then they ghost. They already jacked off and they move on. I'm not trying to get scammed by gay guys trying to get off. I have enough trouble with the female scammers.

[QUOTE=SDDude1;5099889]That's exactly why I'm taking a break from SA. I know that some of the guys on here enjoy the game of hunting. I just want to get laid. I'm tired of blocking, monthly subscriptions, pic sending, deposits and scams. I'm tired of BS altogether. I have too much dignity to argue with a 20 yr old over texting. Alot of the girls came back to SirensVa after the shut down. Kendall's back. You can't get better than that. It's like ordering a pizza. You're definitely right about gay men posing as girls on SA and using a girls picture. They get off on the dirty talk and flirting over text and then they ghost. They already jacked off and they move on. I'm not trying to get scammed by gay guys trying to get off. I have enough trouble with the female scammers.[/QUOTE]What's the link to SirensVa? Do they have same day service or do I need to make an appointment? I've read some stuff on here before about Sirens. High class from what I understand.

Any news or experiences on her [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cae0ff88-892c-49c6-a57c-268c8b8c2d47[/URL].

[URL]https://sirensva.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnB22;5099904]What's the link to SirensVa? Do they have same day service or do I need to make an appointment? I've read some stuff on here before about Sirens. High class from what I understand.[/QUOTE]

Definitely LOL. I know everyone says that on the internet but I did.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5098903]Me! She convinced me, but she blocked me. Foolish girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5100037][URL]https://sirensva.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]The one time I tried to make a date with a Siren girl I was told I has to call back after 9 pm to see who was available. Then when I called after 9 she said no one is available LOL. They only have like 6 girls listed on their site and I can't wait until 9 pm to hope I can meet someone and who knows who will even be available.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;5100635]The one time I tried to make a date with a Siren girl I was told I has to call back after 9 pm to see who was available. Then when I called after 9 she said no one is available LOL. They only have like 6 girls listed on their site and I can't wait until 9 pm to hope I can meet someone and who knows who will even be available.[/QUOTE]From my experience it's not worth the extra money.

If you are looking for a Christmas present for your SB, how about these?

[URL]https://www.thegrommet.com/products/elvie-women-s-pelvic-floor-trainer[/URL]

This will help her develop her kegels for better gripping.

This thong.

[URL]https://www.neimanmarcus.com/p/hanky-panky-low-rise-organic-cotton-thong-prod206950077?childItemId=NMI1GBE_01&navpath=cat000000_cat000730_cat7540732&page=0&position=3[/URL]

Is one size fits all, and comes in a tiny box (discreet for hiding away from the SO and then slipping into the girl's purse).

LOL.

Nine of every 10 new profiles is a scammer, online only or platonic. Seeking is apparently okay with it, and some guys must be down for the latter two categories or the profiles for it wouldn't be there, which is incomprehensible to me. There's a sucker born every minute obviously, and a loser.

I've been usually renewing lately anyway because it's the only game in town for what I want, but each time it gets worse and worse. Social media is largely to blame for driving girls to the site with these expectations, but Seeking does nothing about even the female scammers. If I get one more text with broken English that is so clearly some dude in a boiler room in the Czech Republic I'm going to vomit.

Talk about a business ripe for disruption, there is no regard for the group of actual paying customers.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;5105093]Nine of every 10 new profiles is a scammer, online only or platonic. Seeking is apparently okay with it, and some guys must be down for the latter two categories or the profiles for it wouldn't be there, which is incomprehensible to me. There's a sucker born every minute obviously, and a loser.

I've been usually renewing lately anyway because it's the only game in town for what I want, but each time it gets worse and worse. Social media is largely to blame for driving girls to the site with these expectations, but Seeking does nothing about even the female scammers. If I get one more text with broken English that is so clearly some dude in a boiler room in the Czech Republic I'm going to vomit.

Talk about a business ripe for disruption, there is no regard for the group of actual paying customers.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. I was just thinking about not renewing this month. It used to be you would have to work for it but you could always find girls consistently to hook up with. Now.

I'm working harder and getting less and less. I haven't met a new girl in about 5 weeks and it's frustrating because I need variety. Actually saw a TC girl about 10 days ago because I just wanted an easy guarantee. I might just hit up Eros once or.

Twice a month instead of fooling with this crap anymore.

Here's another reason to change MO or drop this entirely.

I'd rather have the SB book the room and include the reimbursement in her $$ -- avoids the papertrail to me and I don't get spotted loitering at the front desk at check in when the system goes down for 20 minutes, can just get a text with room number and head straight up.

Twice now, I have learned after the fact that the SB tried to use the room I paid for to line up the nightcap to a double header.

One gave the cover story she was in town for work and the company paid for room and the other was local saying she couldn't' stay in the house due to utility failure / issues.

So be on the look out for Sloppy 2 nds if your SB all of a sudden has a hotel room she is inviting you to.

Or worse, she says "Ill meet you after work at X hotel, if you'll reimburse me Ill book it myself" so you ended up being #2 AND you get to pay for the room I've already paid for.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5105288]Here's another reason to change MO or drop this entirely.

I'd rather have the SB book the room and include the reimbursement in her $$ -- avoids the papertrail to me and I don't get spotted loitering at the front desk at check in when the system goes down for 20 minutes, can just get a text with room number and head straight up.

Twice now, I have learned after the fact that the SB tried to use the room I paid for to line up the nightcap to a double header.

One gave the cover story she was in town for work and the company paid for room and the other was local saying she couldn't' stay in the house due to utility failure / issues.

So be on the look out for Sloppy 2 nds if your SB all of a sudden has a hotel room she is inviting you to.

Or worse, she says "Ill meet you after work at X hotel, if you'll reimburse me Ill book it myself" so you ended up being #2 AND you get to pay for the room I've already paid for.

I think I'm done with this for a while.

I've emailed three times asking to delete my account yet here I am posting 3 days later.

Good luck to everyone.[/QUOTE]The sad reality to this game is that the majority of these girls are trying to get as much money as possible which means seeing as many guys as possible. A lot of these girls tend to be busy with school and a part time job so when they they have time to sugar, they fit at many of their daddy's in as they can. This in one of the reasons why I'm so selective with my sb's and normally talk to them a lot for about a week before I line of the FC. It gives me a chance to get a feel for how many guys they are seeing. I avoid the medium / high mileage girls like the plague.

As far as the hotel room, I get it every time and she girl leaves before I leave. I'm not trusting these girls at all. I tend to stay in higher end hotels that have my account linked to the TV so it would be easy for the girl to find out my real identity if they wanted to snoop after I left. With that being said, I'm about to hang up the boots for a while as well. Seeking is becoming unusable with all the scammer, platonic, pic seller profiles. My favorite SB that I've been seeing in NC for a couple months just left for Brazil for a few months. I'll give it up and wait for her. She was everything I look for in a sb and more.

In my area, the midwest, you need to add BBW / HBW.

Bam.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;5105093]Nine of every 10 new profiles is a scammer, online only or platonic. Seeking is apparently okay with it, and some guys must be down for the latter two categories or the profiles for it wouldn't be there, which is incomprehensible to me. There's a sucker born every minute obviously, and a loser.

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[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;5105093]Nine of every 10 new profiles is a scammer, online only or platonic. Seeking is apparently okay with it, and some guys must be down for the latter two categories or the profiles for it wouldn't be there, which is incomprehensible to me. There's a sucker born every minute obviously, and a loser.

I've been usually renewing lately anyway because it's the only game in town for what I want, but each time it gets worse and worse. Social media is largely to blame for driving girls to the site with these expectations, but Seeking does nothing about even the female scammers. If I get one more text with broken English that is so clearly some dude in a boiler room in the Czech Republic I'm going to vomit.

Talk about a business ripe for disruption, there is no regard for the group of actual paying customers[/QUOTE]I'm taking a break now from SA, just seeing the ones that I've seen in the past.

Will re-join after vaccine comes out. So there is no online-only BS to deal with.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;5106255]I'm taking a break now from SA, just seeing the ones that I've seen in the past.

Will re-join after vaccine comes out. So there is no online-only BS to deal with.[/QUOTE]There was an equal number of online only profiles prior to Covid, they just have it to use an an excuse now. I'm not exactly sure why there is an influx of scammers right now though. It's always been frustrating deal with these girls but lately it's seemingly impossible to find a legitimate sb that actually wants to meet. I think that between finals and the holiday break that a lot of the college age sbs are just too busy. They still sign on occasionally but to actually have enough of their attention to set something up is virtually impossible.

This one reaches our and says she's down for anything except physical intimacy. I respond, that's awesome so you're down for everything except what 99% of the guys are on here for. She said I'm the only guy out of 70 guys she's talked to today that's had a problem with it. If that's true then my decision not to renew will be a smart one.

I bet that 69% of those guys are scammers. Hope reality hits her soon.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;5107084]This one reaches our and says she's down for anything except physical intimacy. I respond, that's awesome so you're down for everything except what 99% of the guys are on here for. She said I'm the only guy out of 70 guys she's talked to today that's had a problem with it. If that's true then my decision not to renew will be a smart one.[/QUOTE]

Other guys were ok with it, why is she needing to talk to you. Actually why did she even have to talk to say guy 4 thru 70 in case she likes variety.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;5107084]This one reaches our and says she's down for anything except physical intimacy. I respond, that's awesome so you're down for everything except what 99% of the guys are on here for. She said I'm the only guy out of 70 guys she's talked to today that's had a problem with it. If that's true then my decision not to renew will be a smart one.[/QUOTE].