Non Pro's

[QUOTE=DilzParty;6553871]It can be both. Wealth disparity brought on by neoliberal economic trends and awareness of such by the masses in social media causes a gap in the supply / demand expectations of everyone in the transactional relationship market that has existed forever. Adaptive males figure out what the sexually liberated / sex positive younger generation of SBs want and give that to them and it isn't only money. This obviously doesn't count for the semi-pros or supermodels looking to find a Dubai Daddy but if people are having trouble pulling smart, attractive <30 year olds for long-term consistent things it probably isn't a wallet problem unless they should be on the local board and not an SD site in the first place.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting discussion, but I know we are here for info not talk. I agree w you, essentially. I have had success because I offer more than just money, but nothing has lasted more than 3 mos w a girl <30 because they're so flaky at that stage in life. Also, not great in bed. One 23 yo promised me her oral skills were unbeatable and loved kink. I didn't have the heart to tell her she was not good at either. It's not easy finding true non-pros that respect your time and are fun in bed, if you found one write a post!

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6554983]This is an interesting discussion, but I know we are here for info not talk. I agree w you, essentially. I have had success because I offer more than just money, but nothing has lasted more than 3 mos w a girl <30 because they're so flaky at that stage in life. Also, not great in bed. One 23 yo promised me her oral skills were unbeatable and loved kink. I didn't have the heart to tell her she was not good at either. It's not easy finding true non-pros that respect your time and are fun in bed, if you found one write a post![/QUOTE]EVERY woman thinks she gives the best head. Nope. The vast majority are terrible at it. This is mainly our fault, because we're so happy to get a BJ that we tell them they are fantastic (who is actually going to say, "Jeez, that was horrible") when the reality is that we just want them to keep trying. I'm at the point now that if they're doing a terrible job, I just stop them all they are going to do it hurt me (or rub it raw). The ones that think they're great in bed, well. They'll know when we're finished if they are good in bed. Again, it's our fault. They get with guys that are done in 5 minutes and think it's because they were fantastic. No. That isn't why. It's because the guys they have been with are either inexperienced or terrible. I regularly get the privilege of hearing my neighbor go at it with his girlfriend. I'm embarrassed for him. It really is like 2 minutes max; then they regularly fight because he thinks she's cheating on him. Well, from her perspective, I could see why she'd do it. If you're going to last 2 minutes, then you need to work on other parts of your repertoire.

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6554983]This is an interesting discussion, but I know we are here for info not talk. I agree w you, essentially. I have had success because I offer more than just money, but nothing has lasted more than 3 mos w a girl <30 because they're so flaky at that stage in life. Also, not great in bed. One 23 yo promised me her oral skills were unbeatable and loved kink. I didn't have the heart to tell her she was not good at either. It's not easy finding true non-pros that respect your time and are fun in bed, if you found one write a post![/QUOTE]Yes, you're correct. We're here for the info. Sometimes I just like talking smack haha.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6555064]EVERY woman thinks she gives the best head. Nope. The vast majority are terrible at it. This is mainly our fault, because we're so happy to get a BJ that we tell them they are fantastic (who is actually going to say, "Jeez, that was horrible") when the reality is that we just want them to keep trying.[/QUOTE]LMAO so true.

[QUOTE=HBadger;6553178]Ruined women and men. If it had "freed men" as you say, statistically there wouldn't be so many losers around and men's depression wouldn't be sky high. That's not an opinion that's a fact.[/QUOTE]They freed if they just open their eyes!! It's plain as the nose on our faces. Now perhaps we should clarify what we mean by " men. " In that case, ya. Normies gone normie.

I should have said freed men that put in the work!

My bad.

Any intel on this one?

[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;6557779]They freed if they just open their eyes!! It's plain as the nose on our faces. Now perhaps we should clarify what we mean by " men. " In that case, ya. Normies gone normie.

I should have said freed men that put in the work!

My bad.[/QUOTE]Defining "men" should definitely be first. "Men" of this age are still children. Yes men who see through all the bs are definitely free but that's a very small amount.

[QUOTE=MaachoMaan;6559011]Any intel on this one?[/QUOTE]Not my type, but report back. [URL]https://fetlife.com/users/7010850[/URL].

[QUOTE=MrFox75;6551128]Here are a couple that I have seen that are real:

Missmia: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4fd0ec34-37ec-4527-a379-8d8b467aa77e[/URL].

She is petite and cute, saw her a few times at my place. 350 for cfs, everything else bare; the first couple times were BBFS but things changed for her. PM me if you want the details. I stopped seeing her because she is in Tacoma and was constantly hitting me up for money.[/QUOTE]You guys usually invite these women back to your place? Isn't there a risk in doing that vs a hotel, Airbnb etc.?

[QUOTE=PostQpdx;6559180]Not my type, but report back. [URL]https://fetlife.com/users/7010850[/URL].[/QUOTE]Didn't get vibe she meets in person.

Have seen this one post few times in SD forums.

[URL]https://fetlife.com/users/6583686[/URL]

Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/0d35eded-6709-432c-a533-6f881c33ce64[/URL]

[QUOTE=MaachoMaan;6561837]Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/0d35eded-6709-432c-a533-6f881c33ce64[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d4b24c1-93f5-4268-b8a5-bce4ab19fc99[/URL]

New profile, old SB, have seen her in other profiles for a while.

We tried to meet but for whatever reason we never did, girls that do kot smile in their pictures kind of get at the end of my line.

She has been pretty desperate lately randomly asking for money.

[QUOTE=HBadger;6559048]Defining "men" should definitely be first. "Men" of this age are still children. Yes men who see through all the bs are definitely free but that's a very small amount.[/QUOTE]I'm happy to finally be part of the exclusive club. But I agree, it's small.

[QUOTE=DilzParty;6553871]It can be both. Wealth disparity brought on by neoliberal economic trends and awareness of such by the masses in social media causes a gap in the supply / demand expectations of everyone in the transactional relationship market that has existed forever. Adaptive males figure out what the sexually liberated / sex positive younger generation of SBs want and give that to them and it isn't only money. This obviously doesn't count for the semi-pros or supermodels looking to find a Dubai Daddy but if people are having trouble pulling smart, attractive <30 year olds for long-term consistent things it probably isn't a wallet problem unless they should be on the local board and not an SD site in the first place.[/QUOTE]The disparity is nothing more than lazy. The info for the best life is out there. Getting there is hard, it sucks, and most quit.

Nothing to do in the USA anyway with neoliberal nada.

[QUOTE=DelToro;6562100][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d4b24c1-93f5-4268-b8a5-bce4ab19fc99[/URL]

New profile, old SB, have seen her in other profiles for a while.

We tried to meet but for whatever reason we never did, girls that do kot smile in their pictures kind of get at the end of my line.

She has been pretty desperate lately randomly asking for money.[/QUOTE]The first thing I wonder if a girl doesn't ever smile in her photographs is does she have any teeth? Or are a lot missing? Or is she just a stone cold *****? It's usually one of these reasons.