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So looks like the two working girls were 35 and 45, which along with the infamous Coco being 50, makes you really, really wonder.
I'm starting to think that it's a safe bet that none of the AMP girls are under 30.[/QUOTE]Of course they're over 30 but guys don't want to admit it because it goes against their fantasy and the truth about how they're paying old hags for FS.
Some guys don't want to believe that this one unit in HoCo is over 30 but to me it's obvious.
[QUOTE=LexLuther]It's true that the industry will turn around and pass those extra expenses on to the punter. But our studies have shown that the number of AMPs will explode. With more competition will come lower prices. [/QUOTE]
Ahh yes, Economics 101!
Like any retail/service industry I would envision a wide range of choices. For example you can buy a shirt at Sachs Fifth Avenue or you can buy one at Walmart. Both shirts will get the job done but the one from Sachs will look better, fit better, & feel better.
And then there is a the Costco/Sam's Club factor. Members only.
And lets not forget franchising! Consider a "Value Menu" option...
The possibilities are endless.
Hi guys,
I'm coming down from Toronto in early January and would love to take in some of the local massage parlours. If there are any asian/korean establishments that are in the area, I'd love to know about them.
Thanks in advance, Gryfin
Does anyone remember the OK spa just up the street from Good Guy's and JP's? I can remember going several times and it was good. The neighborhood isn't exactly residential. There were some neighbors who complained and after enough of that the donut crew went around and busted the place. If you go back a few streets from Wisconsin, yes there's houses. It's more a marketplace for a lot of businesses, even the dead are dying to get in.
Too bad though, let's hope it stops there.
Cabbie!
Ya,
check the No Va forum for Alexandria Bro.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=713[/url]
[QUOTE=Gryfin]Hi guys,
I'm coming down from Toronto in early January and would love to take in some of the local massage parlours. If there are any asian/korean establishments that are in the area, I'd love to know about them.
Thanks in advance, Gryfin[/QUOTE]
Meant to report in last week but didn't get a chance until now. Had a dream about the one-triple-three upstairs. Nothing exceptional, but a nice dream nonetheless. Dreamt about a girl named Gina. If you like the kogal-looking type, she's your girl. She doesn't look as "severe" as some of the pictures you might see on the web, but you can definitely tell that was the look she's going for. Not really my preference but the place was busy. Had to wait for the TS, and kept hearing male voices throughout the dream. The good thing about Gina is that she got the kind of asset that look incredible while you're walking the dog with her. Probably not a repeat for me because I know there's better, but some of you might be interested.
While I have no doubt that LL would be better than the retard now serving as president, I think simply voting for the Democrat candidate will relieve the pressure to shut down AMPs. Think about it, Democrats at least acknowledge that they have sex. Republicans are unable to admit that they have sex. We might be lucky enough to have a Democrat who admits to enjoying sex, in which case we might expect the AMPs to be left alone. So let's support the Democrat, whoever it may be.
I was having an interesting text message conversation RE the recent misguided action against a fine business establishment. (We hope that they are exonerated of any wrongdoing.) The premise was that this board had something to do with the action because it was shown in a news clip. BTW-the source of that clip would be helpful, if any who have that info could provide any substantiation, that may be helpful.
I had not planned to bring this up, but for influence of the persons who brought it to my attention in the background. It was my devils advocate that proposed we stop posting all these dicey trip reports. I am aware other boards have hashed all this out before, but we are DC, and we run our ship differently.
Not surprisingly, I took a different stance, that nothing we write can be used in court. But is the mass of hearsay enough to let LE take a minor complaint and open a real investigation? Was the Young's bust, with those dozen or so incriminating USG posts, a fluke? Or is everybody comfortable with how things are going? Should we, as a board, create a code that is not published so that the news media cannot use USG as moral support for action by LE (**now that is reprehensible**)?
I'm throwing it out there. If it is a non-issue, ignore it. If it starts a war, oops, I didn't mean to... Lex can be Commander-in-Chief. I been there and don't want it! I have my thoughts, but I will temper them once I have heard yours.
That said, I'll be talkin to some of you before and maybe even IRL, but since I may not get online, so...
[size=4][color=red][center]I wish you all a safe, happy, prosperous, and sex-filled new year![/center]
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[QUOTE=LoveLOS]I was having an interesting text message conversation RE the recent misguided action against a fine business establishment. (We hope that they are exonerated of any wrongdoing.) The premise was that this board had something to do with the action because it was shown in a news clip. BTW-the source of that clip would be helpful, if any who have that info could provide any substantiation, that may be helpful.
I had not planned to bring this up, but for influence of the persons who brought it to my attention in the background. It was my devils advocate that proposed we stop posting all these dicey trip reports. I am aware other boards have hashed all this out before, but we are DC, and we run our ship differently.
Not surprisingly, I took a different stance, that nothing we write can be used in court. But is the mass of hearsay enough to let LE take a minor complaint and open a real investigation? Was the Young's bust, with those dozen or so incriminating USG posts, a fluke? Or is everybody comfortable with how things are going? Should we, as a board, create a code that is not published so that the news media cannot use USG as moral support for action by LE (**now that is reprehensible**)? [/QUOTE]If this board is a source of Information to the LE, why would they expose that fact in court? Young's (and OK) operated in a free flowing alcohol area which draws a police presence. I remember Shepard's Park in Md. They had the same circumstances, lotsa bars and and a parlor. Neighbors got tired of the fights and littering. They complained and everything got shut down. I've read the blogs of Glover Park. Everyone knew about our places. Some were tolerant, some weren't. Plus, if I were a councilmember with a tourist attraction like the Cathedral right up the street I wouldn't be too happy about that block anyway. Sorry about the ramble but I don't think this site has anything to do with anything. Police don't generally bust our places until someone puts them in the crosshairs. Again, sorry about the ramble. I'm tired.
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Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
It is sad that Youngs got closed down. I liked the girls there. They were fun. Sometimes that place was really crowded. I was put into the closet one time for 15 minutes waiting while others were leaving. Parking was so easy there.
Well I hope it opens up again.
Let me drop my comedic persona for a moment and talk openly and seriously about something that I can safely say is of great importance to a great many of the folks who are members of this board. That is the subject of the AMP industry.
Here we have an industry which has sprung up without any help from anyone but themselves. That is to say they get no help from any level or branch of government. They have stepped in to fill what is obviously a deep-seated need on the part of many men to have available for purchase in one hour increments a particular type of relaxation, intimacy, fantasy, or whatever else you may wish to call it.
There are of course other segments of our society which are vehement in their desire to prohibit this type of activity. On the one hand you have the militant far right true believers. These are also the people who believe we should not have access to alchohol, gambling, cigarettes, and a whole plethora of other of life's small pleasures.
The militant left (particularly the distaff side) feels that this activity is demeaning to women. The problem with their thinking is that the AMP industry is not merely the domain of ignorant, disadvantaged women. I personally know a number of women in this industry who are quite well educated and who have amassed considerable fortunes by virtue of their work in it.
I am reminded that within the past year, several thousand sex workers in Korea demonstrated in Seoul for the right to continue their careers. Contrary to what many believe, we mongers are not a depraved lot. We too come from all walks of life, all socioeconomic levels. Some of us are well educated and others not so well educated. What I suggest is that if we really love this hobby, we band together and let the government and the rest of the country know how we feel about the AMP industry. If you are afraid of letting people know who you are, you could wear a mask or some other form of disguise.
I suggest that on January 1, 2008 we demonstrate in front of some important D.C. government edifice. I suggest we let everyone know how much we value this freedom. Keep in mind that almost every advanced society on the planet allows some form of legalized prostitution. Why is it that in this area as in so many others, America is so far behind?
LexLuther
[QUOTE=LexLuther]I suggest that on January 1, 2008 we demonstrate in front of some important D.C. government edifice. I suggest we let everyone know how much we value this freedom.[/QUOTE]Protests might help, but this is DC. Town of lobbyists. How do they get laws changed? Campaign donations, gifts, and bribery. I propose setting up a political action committee (Mongers United? ). Follow the blueprint of other successful lobbies. Golf trips, conferences in Hawaii, etc. As a kicker, take the politicians on a Germany FKK whirlwhind tour. Then hope for the best.
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]I was having an interesting text message conversation RE the recent misguided action against a fine business establishment. (We hope that they are exonerated of any wrongdoing.) The premise was that this board had something to do with the action because it was shown in a news clip. BTW-the source of that clip would be helpful, if any who have that info could provide any substantiation, that may be helpful.[/QUOTE]Was on Friday's 10 pm local Fox News. Check out the sideboard vid here:
[url]http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=65440A0F59C1FEF6B2197611938BDDB1?contentId=5333663&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1[/url]
Just two questions:
1. What time?
2. Where?
JJ
[QUOTE=LexLuther]Let me drop my comedic persona for a moment and talk openly and seriously about something that I can safely say is of great importance to a great many of the folks who are members of this board. That is the subject of the AMP industry.
Here we have an industry which has sprung up without any help from anyone but themselves. That is to say they get no help from any level or branch of government. They have stepped in to fill what is obviously a deep-seated need on the part of many men to have available for purchase in one hour increments a particular type of relaxation, intimacy, fantasy, or whatever else you may wish to call it.
There are of course other segments of our society which are vehement in their desire to prohibit this type of activity. On the one hand you have the militant far right true believers. These are also the people who believe we should not have access to alchohol, gambling, cigarettes, and a whole plethora of other of life's small pleasures.
The militant left (particularly the distaff side) feels that this activity is demeaning to women. The problem with their thinking is that the AMP industry is not merely the domain of ignorant, disadvantaged women. I personally know a number of women in this industry who are quite well educated and who have amassed considerable fortunes by virtue of their work in it.
I am reminded that within the past year, several thousand sex workers in Korea demonstrated in Seoul for the right to continue their careers. Contrary to what many believe, we mongers are not a depraved lot. We too come from all walks of life, all socioeconomic levels. Some of us are well educated and others not so well educated. What I suggest is that if we really love this hobby, we band together and let the government and the rest of the country know how we feel about the AMP industry. If you are afraid of letting people know who you are, you could wear a mask or some other form of disguise.
I suggest that on January 1, 2008 we demonstrate in front of some important D.C. government edifice. I suggest we let everyone know how much we value this freedom. Keep in mind that almost every advanced society on the planet allows some form of legalized prostitution. Why is it that in this area as in so many others, America is so far behind?
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
JJ and others,
Turns out you have to have a permit for a demonstration. There is not enough time between now and New Year's Day to plan and arrange this. So how would my fellow AMP lovers feel about doing this, say on May Day?
I request that those of you who are willing to attend PM me with a comittment.
LexLuther
A while back, I went to this place. The lady there said "Just two girls, very slow today, you take them both. Same price."
I hastily said yes. Then I thought, I don't have enough to tip them both. So I told the lady that one girl would be fine.
So what is the protocol/etiquette in that situation?
Max Billion,
On the two occasions that I have had two girls in an AMP, I have been obliged to pay the house fee twice and to tip twice.
I must add that the girl-on-girl sex was a big letdown. They pretend to eat one another's treats but they are faking.
From what you write the mama offered to rebate the house fee. But you can bet you would have been required or expected to tip both ladies. That allows the mama to keep both girls semi-happy so they won't complain or leave.
LexLuther
Question:
What spa's have curtains and not doors in VA. I'm talking about to the massage rooms. I heard of a k-girl who is working at a place in VA that has curtains for doors on the rooms. They claim to be totally legit all the girls have massage liscenses and the business has one also.
Back page me and I will give you all the info you want about DC and who to see.
CS
[QUOTE=Max Billion]A while back, I went to this place. The lady there said "Just two girls, very slow today, you take them both. Same price."
I hastily said yes. Then I thought, I don't have enough to tip them both. So I told the lady that one girl would be fine.
So what is the protocol/etiquette in that situation?[/QUOTE]
Go to the ATM!
I've had not so exciting times in this situation, and I've had amazing adventures when this option arises. Next time just run out to the ATM and grab a bit more cash...and hope for the latter.
The better adventures were when I knew one or both of the girls first though. Of course, it's a given that it's better if they are equally as into each other as they are into you.
Happy New Year Folks!
jjj
P.S. - While some are doing ISOs for their favorites, I'd love to hear where Tara (of Supra mid to late-October) is now. Please PM if you have any info. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Jake Jj 1492]Go to the ATM! [/QUOTE]
Thanks. I'm glad I declined then. My very first time to an AMP, I had been told to bring a particular amount of money, and it was not enough money. The girl, an extreme hottie, was pissed.
[QUOTE=Jake Jj 1492]
P.S. - While some are doing ISOs for their favorites, I'd love to hear where Tara (of Supra mid to late-October) is now. Please PM if you have any info. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Me too! Me too! Tara was awesome.
She might be getting her boobs done. She talked about it a lot. A damn shame, if you ask me.
Did you see the dogs on the video? Bow wow is the word. Between the 400 yo woman interviewed early on and the other rover. "we'll be watching. ". Yikes.
Nice shot of the website too. Someone with a lot of time on their hands.
The donut crew knows all about the spas. If you're thinking they don't you're living in the dark. I think as long as things are quiet and nobody complains, everything will be cool. Someone complains, raises a stink at all, the place gets busted, pretty simple. We have to be very careful in the future. I'm thinking with the elections coming up, we might be in for some "interesting" times. This thing is a hot issue with any politician. Too many people to make angry. Women, minorities, and that's just the surface.
Be careful out there.
Happy New Year to all.
Cabbie!
Had some free time over the weekend.
Spent a couple hours at 1413k. Saw Angie. Many reports regarding her. Most say her face is ok but her body is good.
My opinion is opposite. I really liked her face but her body is just ok. Her body is natural and very pretty, but it's not a knockout. Good personality and a standard, if not a little rushed, session. Some dude was waiting on her.
Also saw Jenny at 1413k. Well. She looks young. But she's not that good looking. At least in my opinion. At least she's skinny? I'm one of those guys where looks matter, and Jenny is not for me.
Saw Susie at Gold. No reports regarding her. Not to be confused with Susie's from everywhere else (since when did Susie become the new common name a la Mimi/Nana/Coco?).
Her face is okay. Her voice is not okay. Pretty hoarse, maybe from smoking, I don't know. But her body is a complete knockout. Nice ass, nice fake tits, nice tan, nice stomach (let's face it, there are way too many pretty working girls who have the total package... except for the glaring beer belly). If her face was a little bit uglier, she'd be the posterchild for paperbagging, and I mean that as a compliment.
Her performance is not bad either. It's standard, but seems better due to the fact she has a pretty wild personality. Acts like she is horny throughout. Only downside is she is not that flexible in that I couldn't quite maneuver her in the ways I wanted. She didn't deny me anything, though. It's just that if I tried harder I probably would've broken a few of her bones.
I recommend seeing Susie at least once just for the body. I'll see her again as I like her body and personality, but not for her face, and definitely not for her raspy voice.
I'd appreciate some recommendations for any new girls to see. You have no idea how frustrating is to see multiple posts asking "Where's Tara? She was awesome!" when there were only a few reports about her.
I also suspect some people are purposely knocking down points for girls that are better than standard fare. I can't believe how many 7's Susie got after I saw her by chance in the halls of Dupont. Tell me, how easy is it to find a girl that looks like Dupont Susie at an AMP?
NOT EASY.
And why the heck were there no reports of a girl who used to work at Gold who provided GFE including BBBJ and kissing? Wow, that would've been nice if someone told me while she was actually there! I find it hard to believe that no one here ever saw her once!
Kind of reminds me of Sue in Virginia over a year ago. Very few reports about her, and those that were happened to be very vague. That's why I owe everything to Sleazebum who was selfless enough to share the very first report about Sue and provided more details when I PMed him as a newbie.
[QUOTE=CabDriver52]The donut crew knows all about the spas. If you're thinking they don't you're living in the dark. I think as long as things are quiet and nobody complains, everything will be cool.[/QUOTE]Right. I wonder if anything in particular happened that caused the complaint for Young's. Maybe somebody in the neighborhood found out it was an AMP. Maybe competition called in the complaint.
Managed to get to the 4th floor to celebrate the New Year. Maybe I learned a lesson, maybe not. I wait a few (10?) minutes which is not unusual. In waltzes "Mimi" a cute not quite spinner type who apologizes and explains that 3 of 5 girls are on vacation so things are crazy there. I should've walked when mamasan/ahjima asked me to wait. I get a gentle ultra fast TS and then a rapid fire BJ and no massagi whatsoever. Mish as fast as you can say...well, whatever, and we're through. A promise of more next time. In and out in under 40 minutes. Perhaps less than 30. And the final straw is, not until I leave do I see a lumpy side to Mimi's lower lip. A big-a$$ cold sore? I am trying not to think about it.
I guess a follow-up may be required. In any case you have been warned.
Stay safe,
af
Decided to try a new adventure at an old favorite. Went to Rio, was told 10 minute wait. My response was, "No Problem, but No Nana." I was ushered to room 3.
Bobby, a beautifully put together K-girl soon knocked. Nice. Shower busy, is hot towel OK? Not so Nice, but big smile and "OK, honeeeee!" Yes, I mimic them, it makes them laugh, which is half the battle to achieve good sex with a woman who you have known for six minutes. The other half, for LL (and other offenders here) is to get my tounge between her legs. That goal was also achieved and the result was that I achieved great sex with a woman whom I knew for around an hour.
Bobby: late 20's early 30's (she says 28) (then she changed to 18. I warned her I was 16 and yes, I got another laugh.) Straight black hair, real b cups, well formed shape with erect, erotically sensitive nips. About 118-124lbs, likes DATY and her favorite position is Mish. I can deal with that with a pretty face, which she has.
Face 8
Body 8
TS 0
Massagi 7
Sexo 9
Overall 8
Repeat? Absolutely.
After leaving the establishment, I was very relaxed, but after a bit of driving around, I decided to hit 14K. I got [post=602544]sidetracked by this adventure[/post].
I stayed overnight and chose to visit an establishment near my hotel due to a tiny window of opportunity. A short hike brought me to a familiar second floor on 18th St. I was greeted and recognized by mamahajimi and ushered to the corner room where I had the pleasure of getting to know Pink last time I was there. I stripped quickly. Nana walked in. I chose the half hour session which lasted about 45 fun-filled minutes...
Tall, about 5'6", probably 130 - well placed pounds. Probably about 35, she too-readily agreed to my 'guessed' age of 28. Fake c+ cups, moderate hardness. DATY and her favorite position is Dog. She has wonderful oral skills, and a sweet tasting puss, but methinks she is a bit loose for little LL's taste, but then again, I enjoyed fucking her to complete exhaustion! ...and fans of Nana @ Supra, this girl also claims to be her. I cannot confirm since I never saw her while @ Supra. (Attn Max!)
Nana @ Gold:
Face 8
Body 8
TS N/A
Massagi N/A
Sexo 7
Overall 7
Repeat? Yes!
I also have a correction. [post=599896]This girl was named Jennie, not Angie.[/post][QUOTE=Jake Jj 1492]And LoveLos, if all you noticed were her eyes, then first, you were obviously focused on the prize...and second, I guess it's a good thing you didn't see where her hand went... ;-) [/QUOTE]I really could care less that her hand was on your ass, I was more interested in the location of her OTHER hand... :D
LoveLOS
[QUOTE=Ampfreq]Managed to get to the 4th floor to celebrate the New Year. Maybe I learned a lesson, maybe not. I wait a few (10?) minutes which is not unusual. In waltzes "Mimi" a cute not quite spinner type who apologizes and explains that 3 of 5 girls are on vacation so things are crazy there. I should've walked when mamasan/ahjima asked me to wait. I get a gentle ultra fast TS and then a rapid fire BJ and no massagi whatsoever. Mish as fast as you can say...well, whatever, and we're through. A promise of more next time. In and out in under 40 minutes. Perhaps less than 30. And the final straw is, not until I leave do I see a lumpy side to Mimi's lower lip. A big-a$$ cold sore? I am trying not to think about it.
I guess a follow-up may be required. In any case you have been warned.
Stay safe,
af[/QUOTE]
I hadn't been to an AMP in DC for a while before I went to Royal about two months ago, it was OK the first time so I decided to give it another shot to see if got better. It did not.
After waiting almost ten minutes I was totally rushed the whole time and the provider was about a 5 in looks as opposed to the 7 I had the first time. TS was adequate, but all business. A few minutes of moderate to bad massage and then the flip. I give her $ in addition to the .6 house fee I gave when I got there.
Weak and brief CBJ that left me mildly disinterested in even finishing; if there was some way I could have gotten back half my dough and left at that point, I would have. Only mish was offered, so I rutted myself to a finish after about ten minutes. After getting me a hot towel and a can of coke, the provider (she never told me a name) scooted out the room never to be seen again. I quickly dress and drink the soda before being escorted out by the Mamasan. Blecch!
I was there 40 minutes total which includes the wait at the beginning. I wouldn't mind so much if I had at least been offered a half hour rate, I'm definitely not going back.
[QUOTE=DcDonkey]I hadn't been to an AMP in DC for a while before I went to Royal about two months ago, it was OK the first time so I decided to give it another shot to see if got better. It did not.
After waiting almost ten minutes I was totally rushed the whole time and the provider was about a 5 in looks as opposed to the 7 I had the first time. TS was adequate, but all business. A few minutes of moderate to bad massage and then the flip. I give her $ in addition to the .6 house fee I gave when I got there.
Weak and brief CBJ that left me mildly disinterested in even finishing; if there was some way I could have gotten back half my dough and left at that point, I would have. Only mish was offered, so I rutted myself to a finish after about ten minutes. After getting me a hot towel and a can of coke, the provider (she never told me a name) scooted out the room never to be seen again. I quickly dress and drink the soda before being escorted out by the Mamasan. Blecch!
I was there 40 minutes total which includes the wait at the beginning. I wouldn't mind so much if I had at least been offered a half hour rate, I'm definitely not going back.[/QUOTE]
Been there a bunch of times and never had a bad experience but I don't doubt you. What did this provider look like?
The protocol is to tip both girls. With business being slow, the mamasan is trying to allow the girls to make some extra tip money. Damn, I miss the DC/Bal'mer amps.... sigh
[QUOTE=Max Billion]A while back, I went to this place. The lady there said "Just two girls, very slow today, you take them both. Same price."
I hastily said yes. Then I thought, I don't have enough to tip them both. So I told the lady that one girl would be fine.
So what is the protocol/etiquette in that situation?[/QUOTE]
It's not "the protocol". It's what you will be required to pay! If you should try to leave without at least tipping both girls the required amount, you better never go back into that AMP or into any other AMP in which one of these girls is working.
That kind of talk makes my blood boil and makes me wonder what you people even understand about this industry, how it works, and what motivates the women who serve you.
LexLuther
[QUOTE=LexLuther]That kind of talk makes my blood boil and makes me wonder what you people even understand about this industry, how it works, and what motivates the women who serve you. [/QUOTE]
I'm sure money motivates them. But I was a little confused at the time -- the mamasan didn't ask me if I wanted both, she just said "you take them both", and this was AFTER I had asked specifically for a particular girl. So I wasn't clear on what exactly was being offered. As I said in my post, I decided to err on the side of caution and skip it, just to be safe.
But Nana Banana!
I have seen Nana, late of Gold, the last time or two, so I decided to go elsewhere today. I found myself on 14th Street, no one in front, so down the steps I go.
Inside I am told they have two ladies, and I say send in whoever is next. Lo and behold, my same Nana! We both laughed, I got some kisses, and off we went. Shower, followed by festivities of a varied nature. I will say if any of you guys play golf, you might want to bring your balls in to have them cleaned.
We finished with a nice massage, and pledges of undying love on both parts.
Seriously, I have followed her for some time now, and you can do worse. I will see her again, of course, but a little variety is also good.
I could not agree MORE with you. I only used the word "protocol" because max billion specifically asked what the protocol/etiquette was. Yes, there is no question that both girls DESERVE to be tipped if they both serve you.
[QUOTE=LexLuther]It's not "the protocol". It's what you will be required to pay! If you should try to leave without at least tipping both girls the required amount, you better never go back into that AMP or into any other AMP in which one of these girls is working.
That kind of talk makes my blood boil and makes me wonder what you people even understand about this industry, how it works, and what motivates the women who serve you.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
A little late but saw this in the Post.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/27/AR2007122702695.html[/url]
Daplush Man
I Took One For The Team last night at an "AMP" in Rockville. If someone else has already reported on this joint then flame me for being an f'n' moron. Farq!!!
Spotted an ad (below) in the Adult Services section of the DC City Paper. This venue is completely legit; no Happy Ending offered. That might actually be a good thing because the "girl" assigned to me was neither young nor attractive -- she was probably waving around a little red book during the Cultural Revolution. Avoid this place. $80 wasted.
SWEET ASIAN LADIES
posted 12/28/2007
Sweet Asian Ladies from China, full body massage, good customer service. It's the great to make you relax and rest. We open 7days/wk, 10am-8pm. $80 incall, $150 outcall. 966 Hungerford Dr., Rockville, MD 20850, 301-789-6691.
[url]http://classifieds.washingtoncitypaper.com/washington/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A431555[/url]
Max Billion,
Well fortunately this does not happen often. Normally the girls have been too busy or are just too tired to participate in one of these two-girl shows, or whatever they call them. The mamasan knows this as well as the girls do. However from time to time and in any given amp it may occur that over a particular span of days business may be very poor indeed.
Now the mamasan has probably seen such trends in the past. In fact it's possible that in the past she was a working girl herself. So she is wise enough to know that if this happens over a long enough period of time, one or two or even all of the working girls may get itchy feet and start looking over the fence or down the road where she has heard that the grass is greener. If things were to take their natural course, then mama may find herself completely without any working talent.
Of course sometimes you have a confluence of events in which many if not all of the girls have been working so hard that they need a sort of break but not an outright vacation. If that is the case, a wise mamasan will realize that she needs to let the working girls take it easy for a while, not push them to work. She will even turn away less desirable customers or customers about whom she has some sort of reservations if not fear that they will do damage to the establishment of its business.
But if she sees a young stallion come in to the establishment who looks as tough he could handle more than one girl and that he will not cause any truoble or dissension amoung the working troups, then he may suggest to the client (who is most often not unknows to the mamasan if not to some of the girls that he may enjoy himself more if he were to take on two gals instead of just one.
Now if mamasan is in the frame of mind to be generous and if she perceives that generosity to be likely to yield a certain sense of satisfaction and well-being among her working charges, then she may go ahead and suspend the house fee for one of the girls. But it is going to be a rare occasion indeed where she will sacrifice the tips which often go entirely to the girls. That would come directly out of the purses of the working girls, the very girls whom the mamasan wishes to keep happy enough that the will not get the urge to leave too soon.
You must keep in mind that many of these girls flit about the country or the state because they had gone to a particular place with certain expectations about an establishment which may not have born out under the scrutiny of their own experience. For instance a madam or mamasan if you will may have over exaggerated just how much money was to be made their, how hard the girls would have to work to make it. They may not have told the complete story on what the girl's living accommodations would look like, how much food would be supplied, what quality, etc. They may have described the local as being close to shopping opportunities when in fact it is in a poor rural area whose greatest retailer of women's clothes is the Lane Bryant shop.
So some of this yin and yang is what is at work when providers leave establishments more quickly than we expect them to do so. There are other issues as well of course. For instance in a place like the greater Metro Atlanta area where there have been a great many raids of late, you have a situation where a young woman with ambition may have come to town expecting that if she had ambition she would work her way up by gaining experience in one establishment and then move from one to the other until she had learned how to manage a place. Now due to the scarcity of spas in the former large numbers, she has to re-examine her former plan.
But above all, it is necessary for the mamasan can make the girls believe that through her running of the show, she can provide her girls the opportunity at least not to grow poor during their stay. Keep in mind that although these working girls may seem to you and me to be making an exhorbitant amount of money, many of them blow it on clothing, others send it back to support their children who are being cared for in another American city or in another country entirely. A small percentage of them are blowing their money on drugs. But I think that in general they live from one hand to the next. So a single deal put together by the mamas which show that they can each make out semi-well even when their only enough customers for one gal, will often allay the fears of a number girls.
But as I said the bottom line is that the punter should be prepared to "take care of" both girls. And unless mamasan offers it explicitly, the punter should expect to pay house fee for both girls.
Well that's it for now. Take care of those lovely young women as you would wish your sister to be taken care of were she in desparate enough straits to offer her pussy for sale. And if she does offer it up for sale and it's nice stuff, please tell old Lex about it, contact numbers, etc. :) Lex does enjoy a bit of strange now and again, all the more so if its the milf type of innocent undpected stuff that one did not expect to be on offer. But Lex likes his gals to go unshaven. That lends an even greater air of innocence to the who thing which does not suggest that this gal has done everything to herself to attract punters. It suggests she may not be overused, callous, jaded, and with a hard personality. We like the innocent unsuspecting ones whom we can teach something to. Something which will render them exquisitely viable in our hands.
LexLuther :)
Didn't mean to cause a stir.
Anyway, went to see my fave again at 1413. Nothing to say that I haven't said before. Will definitely be back, but I'm starting to pine for Ruby so I might detour a bit first.
What makes these businesses any different than other businesses in our free enterprise system? Look at your Sunday newspaper ads. Two for the price of one! Buy one and get one free! The businesses that cut prices take a risk by selling at or below cost, but they do it because they want the customer to come back or buy more. It pays for them to do it, for in the long run they get their money back. And every business has to worry about sustaining and maintaining their employees, you just offer additional incentives, maybe the mamasan can reduce the costs the employee pays for food or decreases the percentage the employee turns over to the house. To entice customers the business doesn’t just double up the price they in all cases reduce it. I visualize that the more business-minded Mamasan could offer her steady customers real specials, like a full-hour TEWFERONE special, not like the advertised $200 specials on CL.
[QUOTE=Sashimi]What makes these businesses any different than other businesses in our free enterprise system? Look at your Sunday newspaper ads. Two for the price of one! Buy one and get one free! The businesses that cut prices take a risk by selling at or below cost, but they do it because they want the customer to come back or buy more. It pays for them to do it, for in the long run they get their money back. And every business has to worry about sustaining and maintaining their employees, you just offer additional incentives, maybe the mamasan can reduce the costs the employee pays for food or decreases the percentage the employee turns over to the house. To entice customers the business doesn’t just double up the price they in all cases reduce it. I visualize that the more business-minded Mamasan could offer her steady customers real specials, like a full-hour TEWFERONE special, not like the advertised $200 specials on CL.[/QUOTE]
Your first mistake is comparing a girl at an AMP to a tube of toothpaste. I don't know if you realize it or not, but these girls are human beings who are in the business out greed, and despite what the news media and law enforcement may have led you to believe, these girls are not controlled by the mamasan, managers, or owners of an establishment. To put it simply, they're doing it for the money, not because they're forced to.
When you pay the $100 tip, the $100 doesn't go to the mamasan.
So keeping that in mind, what two girls in their right minds would want to split $100 between themselves for fucking you? Or take less than $100 each just because the mamasan said to?
I'd sure hate to see you run a business.
"Come use Sashimi's moving service! TEWFERONE SPECIAL!!! We'll send you two movers to get the move done in half the time! But whoops, one of them doesn't get paid! But it's okay because if I give them a free lunch at McDonalds, that's incentive for them to stay! Hahaa!! Heheehe!!! I'm a business guru!!!!"
Sashimi,
You don't seem to understand the AMP business model. As RM astutely points out, the AMP workers are not pizzas or toothpaste. In fact they are more like independent contractors. They get no benefits as such. They pay for every morsel of food they get. They also kick in so much per day to cover the cost for the "kitchen mama" if there is one. If they need a doctor or a dentist, it comes out of their pocket. They have to buy their own AMP costumes.
When they leave to go on "bacation", they foot the bill for the so-called "Korean Taxi", any airfare, etc. Sometimes they don't even get the whole tip but must share it with the "house." If you don't tip, the girl has just taken care of your for nothing. That is why the mamasan or greeter always asks you if you've been there before. They want to make sure you understand how it works.
I learned a long time ago that you never cheat a working girl. If you have not learned that yet, I guarantee you that someday you will. And it can be a very hard lesson indeed. But once again as RM says, these are human beings. They get no joy out of fucking you. They do it because they need the money and that's the best way they know to earn it.
LexLuther
I don't know what the hell just happened, but one of the most awkward sessions ever was also one of the best sessions I've ever had. Of course, memory is a fickle thing, so I may be giving too much credit to more recent dreams, but...
The girl herself? She looks around 29ish (according to AMP standards, meaning she could be anywhere from 29 to 40). She has an average to pretty face. Average to pretty body. Average to okay personality (not very talkative or friendly). Everything was average separately, but it was one of those sum of all parts is greater than the whole things. The total package was better than average.
Anyhow, I don't know what came over me or her or what, but somehow while she was giving me a CBJ, we went through the whole gamut of upselling and negotiation through some really excruciatingly awkward conversation due to the sensitive subject matter (I've been yelled at and pseudo-banned from one place, pseudo meaning it doesn't matter because the mamasan changed).
[b]Me:[/b] ..can I ask you something?
[b]Her:[/b] What?
[b]Me:[/b] If I ask, you're not going to get mad, right?
[b]Her:[/b] What?
[b]Me:[/b] You're not going to get mad, right? Don't yell at me?
[b]Her:[/b] You're weird. Just ask.
[b]Me:[/b] If I give you $100, can you do it with your mouth without the condom?
[b]Her:[/b] What? Just do mouth?
[b]Me:[/b] And sex.
[b]Her:[/b] Mouth? No-condom? Then sex? Condom?
[b]Me:[/b] Yes. I'll give you $100. Can you do it with your mouth without the condom?
[b]Her:[/b] Of course, for $100, I have to!
She then whipped off the condom and proceeded to give me a BBBJ. I've had plenty of BBBJ's before (from personal life to AMPs to escorts), but hers has to be one of the best in my opinion. Just wet enough to be warm and enjoyable, but not too sloppy (I hate it when girls give a BJ with too much spit). She was also able to take it all the way without any teeth scraping, which is something I really hate.
Once again, proof that I have not learned from previous mistakes.
[b]Me:[/b] How about down there?
[b]Her:[/b] No.
[b]Me:[/b] Not even for $100 more?
[b]Her:[/b] No. How do you know I don't have a disease. I don't even do that with my boyfriend.
[b]Me:[/b] Okay.
[b]Her:[/b] Never.
Some more BBBJ. This went on for a while before another awkward conversation came up.
[b]Her:[/b] Ready? [size=1][i](for sex)[/i][/size]
[b]Me:[/b] Does that mean you won't do it with your mouth again? [size=1][i](unsure because the bbbj is so good)[/i][/size]
[b]Her:[/b] What?
[b]Me:[/b] I mean, if I put it in you, will you not do it with your mouth again?
[b]Her:[/b] Huh? What do you want?
[b]Me:[/b] Will you still suck me after we do it for a little bit?
[b]Her:[/b] Huh. Okay. Let me get more towel.
She went out and brought more towels, but my dick died. So she just gave me some more BBBJ to cheer me up. But since now I knew she would give me more BBBJ after penetration, I asked her to stop. So she put on the condom and on she went. She did some nice cowgirl but she stopped entirely too fast and told me to get on top, but I wasn't going to complain.
While banging away, I dove in for some kissing. She did not evade. I doubt she was wooed by my ugly mug so it's definitely because of the tip she knew was going to ensue. Stuck my tongue into her mouth and we kissed pretty passionately.
I was about to cum way too fast so I pulled out.
[b]Me:[/b] Shit.. I'm about to cum already.
[b]Her:[/b] Haha. You know, us girls' goal is to make customer cum fast.
[b]Me:[/b] Well not me. It's expensive.
[b]Her:[/b] Haha. That is true.
[b]Me:[/b] Shit.
She just waited patiently and did not put up a fuss, once again most likely due to the ensuing tip. Then I stuck it back in her for some more pumping and began kissing her again. And once again more awkward conversation.
[b]Me:[/b] Where am I allowed to cum?
[b]Her:[/b] Where do you want to?
[b]Me:[/b] Everywhere.
[b]Her:[/b] Everywhere is fine except for neck up.
[b]Me:[/b] Even for $100 more?
[b]Her:[/b] No! If it gets in my eye, I might get a disease.
[b]Me:[/b] Oh, okay.
Some more banging. More kissing.
[b]Me:[/b] How about in your mouth?
[b]Her:[/b] Are you crazy! For $100! $300 total! [size=1][i]($100 standard tip + $100 for bbbj + $100 for cim)[/i][/size]
[b]Me:[/b] Eh.
More banging. She then started to make some noise. She was acting, but at least she was giving effort in her acting.
[b]Me:[/b] How about for $50?
[b]Her:[/b] Okay.
[b]Me:[/b] Okay, do it now.
Off I go and she takes off the condom, wipes me down with a hot towel, and starts giving me more of that deep, wet but not too wet BBBJ. I'm in heaven.
Now let me preface this with: [b]I HATE DATY[/b]. Licking the pussy of girlfriends in my personal life disgusts me, and licking the pussy of a working girl disgusts me even more. Not to mention she had already lubed herself up when we went for the sex.
But for some reason, I spun her around and just dove into her pussy. Now, I'm not a DATY expert, and I think this is maybe the third time I've ever done it, but her pussy tasted sweet. She must've used some sort of flavored lube.
Anyway, after a couple of minutes of this, I realized I hated DATY and raised her ass and watched her just pumping my cock with her throat. I used my arms to raise and lower her lower back to guide the pace and then I blew. She sucked it all up before getting up briskly and spitting it all into a towel.
She then took another towel and wiped my mouth off.
I don't know if I'm just remembering wrong or not, but this was honestly the second time I've ever felt that my dick was truly drained. The first time being when I lost my virginity. You know how you feel after you take the perfect deep shit that doesn't tear your anus. Or how you feel after you drink some cold water after playing some basketball on a hot day. Or how you feel after a good Thanksgiving meal.
It was like that. My dick was truly content and satisfied.
So while I popped out my wallet and gave her $250 (Plus $60 = $310 total... Ouch.), another conversation came up.
[b]Me:[/b] You're going to talk bad about me after I leave, right?
[b]Her:[/b] No! How can I? None of the other girls can know or they'll talk bad about me.
[b]Me:[/b] Okay.
[b]Her:[/b] If you ever do this again... With another girl... Don't talk about me? Okay? Don't say that I did it.
[b]Me:[/b] Okay.
If you've seen my posts, you know I do BBBJ, facials, and BBFS. But this was truly my most satisfying experience and I don't even regret the huge hit my wallet took for a 40-minute AMP visit.
Anyhow, I then went home and jerked off to some porn that had finished downloading while I was at the AMP. Then I went to spend the night with my AMP mistress where before we went to sleep, I had her give me a blowjob and some deep rimming before she sucked and swallowed every last drop of my cum, though I have to admit I did not really squirt that much (normally she spits, and by normally, I mean she only swallowed my cum once before when I begged her to). Then we fell asleep.
Speaking of which, I want to add on that I had anal sex for the first time (it was also her first time) with my older AMP mistress during the month of December. Took a while and a lot of lube but once I got it in there, it felt good, but definitely not for her. She was trembling with fear and her face looked to be in a lot of pain.
I did not do a lot of thrusting as it was tight enough and just some wiggling was enough to get me off. Had anal sex with her just once more and some more of the same. This time I filmed it but she deleted it saying that everything looked good except her face since she was scared/hurting.
Oh well, next time.