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I have never had a problem with checking in at any time of the day at the area Motel 6's or Red Roof Inns.
[QUOTE=Lazydude]Yeah Its the 11:am or noon checkout time problem. I was thinking if some motels have special day time rates like if you wanted to check in around 8 or 10am and checkout later in the evening?
Also are there any hourly motels in indy? I think there are none.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]Gents Leo is taping at seedier motels and hotels guys license plates,(Hampton Inn- Castleton is definitely working with leo. Staff has been known to watch the room #'s going into etc. My advice is to splurge on a Hilton or Hyatt and make sure your "date" is dressed appropriately. I always find it fascinating that high end escorts AND even clients valet.
That is an absolute no no and can get you some very bad attention.[/QUOTE]
I never considered a Hampton Inn Seedy. Mayflower Inn, yes, Hampton not so much.
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]Gents Leo is taping at seedier motels and hotels guys license plates,(Hampton Inn- Castleton is definitely working with leo. /QUOTE]
LE does not have the time, manpower or money to invest camping out at hotels to make misdemeanor arrests. They run a sting now and then or raid a few MP's. In all my years in Indy they've never done more than that. They pay attention for a minute to show they are doing something but that's about it. Of course it's wise to be cautious but LE does not pay near as much attention to this as so many on this board think they do.
[QUOTE=Chelli4me][QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]Gents Leo is taping at seedier motels and hotels guys license plates,(Hampton Inn- Castleton is definitely working with leo. /QUOTE]
LE does not have the time, manpower or money to invest camping out at hotels to make misdemeanor arrests. They run a sting now and then or raid a few MP's. In all my years in Indy they've never done more than that. They pay attention for a minute to show they are doing something but that's about it. Of course it's wise to be cautious but LE does not pay near as much attention to this as so many on this board think they do.[/QUOTE]
Have to agree with Chilli, I stay at the Hampton everytime I'm in Indy. Sometimes not leaving for my work until 3pm. So I'm there during the day and night hours. Never ever saw a cop or cop car. Very family oriented place.
I've always had visitors with no problem.
[QUOTE=Two Nutts][QUOTE=Chelli4me]
Have to agree with Chilli, I stay at the Hampton everytime I'm in Indy. Sometimes not leaving for my work until 3pm. So I'm there during the day and night hours. Never ever saw a cop or cop car. Very family oriented place.
I've always had visitors with no problem.[/QUOTE]That's hilarious. Hampton Inn as a hobby hot spot? I just put a friend up there at the Castleton location on Friday night as a favor to him on his drive from Detroit to southern Indiana. He got in late, we went to dinner with my wife, then back to the hotel. He left early to make a breakfast appointment. I hope he doesn't have Uncle Leo calling his wife to report he stayed in a hotel on the road.
By the way, he said the rooms were very nice as they had recently been remodeled.
I've not had alot of experience looking for SW's, and I think I chose a poor weekend to drive around. Rain aside, I chose to stick with east side of town and managed to identify one WSW. However, what really bothered me was not just where I found her, but how it felt like an obvious set up. I was driving on e washington and noticed a guy on the porch in a white sweatshirt. He was rather easy to spot, even on a dark rainy night, but she wasn't. She was wearing something dark and gray with a slit in the skirt running all the way up. It wasn't until I was almost upon her that I saw her and actually swerved in reaction. She looked like she was ready to walk in traffic, as she was crossing the street and standing in the middle turn lane when I got up to her.
Is this normal behavior? I don't know if it was necessarily LE, but it certainly didn't feel right.
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]LEO has task forces just for "prostitution and soliciting" We all know that the reason the escort scene has become almost like having to give your first born to see one of us or me is because of that...[/QUOTE]
Yes, they do, but what good will they do themselves sitting around outside hotels running plate numbers?
Doing that wouldn't get them anything actionable unless they happened to see a known Provider going into a room with someone, and even then, there'd be nothing they could do, since they would have no proof that the guy was a client, and not the Provider's SO. Sure, they could stop the Provider, and they client when they came out of the room, and ask alot of questions, but, again, no proof anything illegal happened, so what can they do about it?
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]LEO has task forces just for "prostitution and soliciting"
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It's not a full time 24/7 activity. It's just not done here in Indy. If LE was "on it" like you suggest there would be arrests every day. Mongering is 24/7, LE fighting it is not.
[QUOTE=Chelli4me]It's not a full time 24/7 activity. It's just not done here in Indy. If LE was "on it" like you suggest there would be arrests every day. Mongering is 24/7, LE fighting it is not.[/QUOTE]
Very hard to believe this would be happening. Nice of SJ to be looking out for us and all. But the seedier hotel comment and Hampton Inn in Castleton in the same sentence doesn't make sense either. That place is better than Holiday Inn and some 4 stars that I regularly stat at.
TN, this is not just to you, but to whole discussion. I am not trying to be a smart ass or stir anything up.
Nice hotels can have activities too. If a nice hotel did have concerns about increasing activity, or specific room activities, what might they do? Might they call LEO? What might LEO do?
Surveillance seems like such a standard LEO tool, even if I don't understand what they might get from it in this case, it seems plausible to me they might do it for a while. Not wanting drama, I would want to avoid being on the surveillance even if they would have hard time proving anything. Maybe I am just being paranoid, but thanks to SJ for passing information along and thanks to all for discussions.
X
[QUOTE=Two Nutts]Very hard to believe this would be happening. Nice of SJ to be looking out for us and all. But the seedier hotel comment and Hampton Inn in Castleton in the same sentence doesn't make sense either. That place is better than Holiday Inn and some 4 stars that I regularly stat at.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian][/QUOTE]
First off I am surprised, I am so prejudiced and judgmental that I automatically would have assumed a maintenance man to be more of a Boone's Farm aficionado than a connoisseur of fine wines, such as a Bordeaux. That being said, if I were the maintenance man at the HI I do believe being outed on a board would concern me as much as having my plate tallied in a parking lot where they would have absolutely no idea why I might be there. I see many more girls at the downtown Hilton than I do at HIC, so why would they not be watching there since it is so popular. I attend many meetings and conferences at the Sheraton at the Crossing, will that make me a likely suspect?(Although a couple of my favorite traveling visitors have a habit of staying there so maybe it does) A certain hobby I have has taught me over the years to be very wary and watchful in parking lots, it used to scare the crap out of me, I still sometimes may linger an hour ahead in lots to scope them out when I have misgivings, and I sometimes still have to pay close attention to the many private security cars that so many of the local hotels employ which can make one's heart skip a beat, scared one girl I know so badly she didn't sleep all night because she thought her uncle had hunted her down and was waiting for her outside.( They left at dawn but I had a great time holding and consoling her till they left, maybe I forgot to tell her about the security thing, can't remember) There is hardly a hotel in town that I haven't visited at some point, and at last check parking my car or visiting a business isn't a crime in and of itself, so I am curious what the strategy would be exactly and visiting friends is still considered appropriate social activity, so could it be happening, sure, is it, more likely an alternate explanation is the case. I certainly hope that what has been stated isn't the case, because I hold that particular location in a special place in my heart, and other places of my person, because one of the great experiences that I ever had in my exploration as a gourmand occurred on that very site.
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian][/QUOTE]In all of your posts, you claim to be concerned with others' safety, but in your most recent post about a particular monger and where that person works, you have succeeded in putting that person in extreme risk for scrutiny.
This is not what this forum was designed to do.
[QUOTE=Ilapp]They left at dawn but I had a great time holding and consoling her till they left, maybe I forgot to tell her about the security thing, can't remember.[/QUOTE]
I laughed out loud. Thanks Ilapp!
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]I have gotten more money from the people with lower paying jobs who don't haggle on the $400 an hour rate as opposed to the white collar men who send me emails all the time with sweetie would you take $200 or $300.
Recently I have a wonderful person taking care of me and I have not had to work much, however the clients I do see are my friends, and therefore that is why I try to help them with what I hear etc etc. I am not really seeing anyone new, however I do believe what this guy told me is correct.
He stated Leo has brought in photo's to the front desk of local girls with face photo's posted on escort sites, and they have been asked to please cooperate by monitoring the situation if that girl comes in. (Today, I gathered that from my friend who is planning on quitting, thus is the reason he has told me about this)
It appears to him Leo undercover vice has offered $ 100 dollars to any of the staff to cooperate. It does make sense to me, however I also agree there are a lot of hotels we stay at, and why are they not doing that? Or are they?
In my career I have been the fort knox of screening, and also not taking any chances. I will always continue to be like that, I also never client share or converse with other providers. This business makes you aware of your surroundings quickly and I can say from personal experience that I do believe that quite possibly the staff could be cooperating at hotels. I have left certain hotels based on the staff, and how they were reaacting. I have also lost thousands by not seeing many people if they will not go through proper screening, But I have kept my clients safe and also myself.
Maybe it's true or maybe he is just disgruntled but I thought I would pass it on anyway.
JJ[/QUOTE]
I do apologize about the flippant remark concerning means, I should know better, a good friend of mine who from the outside one would assume his job to be menial labor, and he has hobbied worldwide in ways I can only dream of. You know I adore you and think you to be one of the brightest and most well informed persons in the business I have ever come across, if not the most. You are cautious, prudent and discrete, and I have no doubt you believe what you have reported to be true, and I must admit if I were going to blow smoke up anyone's ass myself, there is no cuter and finer ass I could imagine than yours to do it to( the blowing smoke thing of course), but I feel, rather believe for good reason you to be off base here, in territory you may not understand. I must say I never thought I would say that to you, your knowledge and research have always been as good as there are and you have a certain intuitive nature that must serve you well, and I have never doubted that your intentions are honorable and that you are only trying to be of assistance to those that adore you and those that wish they could. Agendas, misconceptions, Ilapp is a dumbass and way off base and you're info is correct, not sure what is in play but I have no doubt of your intentions but I can't and won't speak for anyone else's. For once, let's hope you are wrong. I suddenly feel like the Amazing Karnac- a psychic of sorts(not psycho for those friends that were going to chime in). I see a working man, who very well may not get the opportunity to resign, MMMMMM
P.S. - If we aren't going to judge books by their covers then does that mean you won't think of me as the old, fat, saggy-assed, pencil-dicked pervert that I appear to be?
[QUOTE=Ilapp]P.S. - If we aren't going to judge books by their covers then does that mean you won't think of me as the old, fat, saggy-assed, pencil-dicked pervert that I appear to be?[/QUOTE]
Ilapp, you're much to hard on yourself, you're really not fat at all!
FF
Worked at a hotel years ago. Most of your mid to large inns have off duty leo as securty.
I appreciate that you are trying to keep everyone safe, I truly do, but you need to check your facts before you post things like this.
I doubt that any place of business would allow their line staff to accept money from the police for cooperating with an investigation, that clearly blurs the lines of most codes of ethics.
I recently received a PM from you asking if someone in my personal life knew that I was a monger, asking me to not berate you. I never berated you, I was merely stating that you have stated your purpose was safety and security, and clearly that was not important to you by posting this person's involvement in monger activities, and then put out there where the person works (whether he intends to quit or not). BTW, were you threatening to expose me to this person in my personal life? That crosses the line.
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]He stated Leo has brought in photo's to the front desk of local girls with face photo's posted on escort sites, and they have been asked to please cooperate by monitoring the situation if that girl comes in. (Today, I gathered that from my friend who is planning on quitting, thus is the reason he has told me about this)
It appears to him Leo undercover vice has offered $ 100 dollars to any of the staff to cooperate. It does make sense to me, however I also agree there are a lot of hotels we stay at, and why are they not doing that? Or are they?
Maybe it's true or maybe he is just disgruntled but I thought I would pass it on anyway.
JJ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Indyippolito]In all of your posts, you claim to be concerned with others' safety, but in your most recent post about a particular monger and where that person works, you have succeeded in putting that person in extreme risk for scrutiny.
This is not what this forum was designed to do.[/QUOTE]I think Indyippolito said this very well. SJ's posts confuse me with the stated desire to keep us all informed and safe, but the discussion topic seemed to cross the line a bit. I thought these posts were monitored since mine always appear later than Senior Members' posts, and are sometimes edited. I assumed that Advertisers' posts were also monitored. Are they monitored for content, or just spelling, syntax, and grammar, and competing web names.
This topic is getting very deep. Those in the know, know thats its imposible for the suggested situation to be ongoing at the named hotel in castleton.
Reasons not to be addressed, other than to say it's not happening there..period!
And I feel sorry for the maint. man.
Last words on this from me.
TN
Why isn't handfulofwheel not a senior member? Please check into it.
TWO NUTTS
Met with one of my favorite escorts last night. We walked into lobby together in her Northside hotel. Not one look from anybody. So maybe I was just lucky, lmao. Lets all have fun guys. Wouldn't worry to much about Leo. How could they prove anything, unless someone is very stupid.
Lets keep our girls happy.
His six months should be up in two days and he should be a senior then. [QUOTE=Two Nutts]Why isn't handfulofwheel not a senior member? Please check into it.
TWO NUTTS[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Two Nutts]Why isn't handfulofwheel not a senior member? Please check into it.
TWO NUTTS[/QUOTE]Sr.! Well done my man - 2 days ahead of time.
FF, I believe you hit two targets with a single throw
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]I spoke with him about this, and he has told me to feel free to post anything I deemed necessary since he is resigning. I could give a shit less what or how you think of my intentions. I think you need more posts bwfore you ever speak up again! Now go back to your computer and wank off some more to my photos.
QUOTE=Indyippolito]In all of your posts, you claim to be concerned with others' safety, but in your most recent post about a particular monger and where that person works, you have succeeded in putting that person in extreme risk for scrutiny.
This is not what this forum was designed to do.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
So does this make me like a sexual angel or something then.(honestly you just caught me on a bad circulation day)
There is so much hating going on here today. Let's all just hold hands here and sing a couple of verses of "Kum bay ya My Lord" Or "Cum in here my Lord" as I prefer to have it sung to me. Ok............now my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek.
[QUOTE=Chill Pill]There is so much hating going on here today. Let's all just hold hands here and sing a couple of verses of "Kum bay ya My Lord" Or "Cum in here my Lord" as I prefer to have it sung to me. Ok............now my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek.[/QUOTE]
I have said my peace and her response only reaffirmed my post. It's time to chill out and have some fun. I enjoyed chilling with you last night. It was nice to finally meet you. Thank you for the company.
FF
PS. Stopped back at HH on the way home and met the most freckled milf I have ever seen in my life. Very nice in the back room, but I don't think baseball is in our future.
My first thought on this whole debacle was "this is totally irrelevant." but, after reading all the posts I'm glad this info is here. It seems a once-highly-regarded provider, who I never had the pleasure of visiting, becomes quite the drama queen when confronted. So I, as a man, feel more well-informed about which women I should or should not meet for sex. Mission accomplished.
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[QUOTE=Freckle Freak]I have said my peace and her response only reaffirmed my post. It's time to chill out and have some fun. I enjoyed chilling with you last night. It was nice to finally meet you. Thank you for the company.
FF
PS. Stopped back at HH on the way home and met the most freckled milf I have ever seen in my life. Very nice in the back room, but I don't think baseball is in our future.[/QUOTE]Its all good my friend. Yea it was so good to finally put some faces behind the names and meet a bunch of pencil dicked, fat, old, bald headed perverts such as myself. After meeting you guys I just couldn't help myself by making a comment. I think the freckled MILF waitress @ BBF wanted to play ball. She was keeping track of you.
[QUOTE=Chill Pill]Its all good my friend. Yea it was so good to finally put some faces behind the names and meet a bunch of pencil dicked, fat, old, bald headed perverts such as myself. After meeting you guys I just couldn't help myself by making a comment. I think the freckled MILF waitress @ BBF wanted to play ball. She was keeping track of you.[/QUOTE]Chill, it was nice to finally meet you Tuesday. Always good to put a name and face together. By the way, I'm not fat.
PS, you missed a nice time at PT's!
[QUOTE=Sexy Jillian]Your close to mr popular in hungness! I do have to give it to him in that arena but. You are very close! Maybe your right about misconception. At least you were very tactful unlike hand ful of wheel who I will never help out or look out for as he tried to make me feel dumb.[/QUOTE]
After enjoying time with a very Sensory woman, whose company I immensely enjoy, and then celebrating a member’s senior status with some old and new friends, it came upon me that I sometimes go overboard on the emotional aspects of the board drama. I don’t necessarily regret my comments because it needed to be said, however I feel I need to lighten up, as suggested by a friend. So that being said my friend…
I think a challenge has been issued on this board. Whose member is larger? Now what I am going to suggest might seriously trouble one of my friends but “It’s Time for a Face Off” or should I say a comparison of swords. It’s time to roll out the tape measure, do the comparison and make it well known that what has been indicated is Truth not fiction. An independent, neutral, unbiased party should be the judge. Could this person be the wife interested in the “Glory Hole”? This is the only way to accomplish the truth because one of the mongers mentioned has NO interest in a duo, or should I say DUEL, between two male members (no pun intended).
The task at hand will be to secure a double “Glory Hole”, give the lady who is interested in stepping out on her husband the measuring device, insert member into holes on opposite sides and well you get the drift. Think of all the recent issues that could be resolved with this opportunity. Length and width would be tallied; results would be made public on the board to prove SJ’s statement of fact; and the wife would finally get her chance to satisfy her desires. This is a win - win opportunity.
It only seems fitting that our newest senior member to the board should monitor the contest as part of his initiation ritual. Sorry friend it just seemed fitting, since every time I try and see someone you are present. This would finally give me the chance to see her while you are monitoring the duel.
Ah the opportunities that only come with membership on this insightful and peaceful board.
FF
PS. The sun kissed freckles on my afternoon companion were wonderful
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak]After enjoying time with a very Sensory woman, whose company I immensely enjoy, and then celebrating a member’s senior status with some old and new friends, it came upon me that I sometimes go overboard on the emotional aspects of the board drama. I don’t necessarily regret my comments because it needed to be said, however I feel I need to lighten up, as suggested by a friend. So that being said my friend…
I think a challenge has been issued on this board. Whose member is larger? Now what I am going to suggest might seriously trouble one of my friends but “It’s Time for a Face Off” or should I say a comparison of swords. It’s time to roll out the tape measure, do the comparison and make it well known that what has been indicated is Truth not fiction. An independent, neutral, unbiased party should be the judge. Could this person be the wife interested in the “Glory Hole”? This is the only way to accomplish the truth because one of the mongers mentioned has NO interest in a duo, or should I say DUEL, between two male members (no pun intended).
The task at hand will be to secure a double “Glory Hole”, give the lady who is interested in stepping out on her husband the measuring device, insert member into holes on opposite sides and well you get the drift. Think of all the recent issues that could be resolved with this opportunity. Length and width would be tallied; results would be made public on the board to prove SJ’s statement of fact; and the wife would finally get her chance to satisfy her desires. This is a win - win opportunity.
It only seems fitting that our newest senior member to the board should monitor the contest as part of his initiation ritual. Sorry friend it just seemed fitting, since every time I try and see someone you are present. This would finally give me the chance to see her while you are monitoring the duel.
Ah the opportunities that only come with membership on this insightful and peaceful board.
FF
PS. The sun kissed freckles on my afternoon companion were wonderful[/QUOTE]Dude, that is one of the funniest posts I've ever read!
Unfortunately you've got me being the monitor, but if that's the price for Senior Membership, I guess I should pay my dues. Besides, you'll have to be there too since the gal you want to see will want to be there as well. Probably with me.
Sorry I didn't get to say goodbye when you left the club, you just disappeared into the sunset like the Lone Ranger.
[QUOTE=PhonicsMonkey]Hahahhaah. Any guy paying $400 to one of thes local hoes is insane! There is sooo much "tail for sale" that there is no reason to ever spend more than $200. Sj, you may have a couple of guys agree to spend the $400, but we all know that is not your typical rate.
Ok guys you are all arguing with a hooker. She is obviously unbalanced and mad and has an agenda. She talks like she enjoys her "living" (which is sucking strangers cock's) and now she has an old man paying her to be around a lot. Why even bother arguing with someone like her.
We have to remember this is a buyers market with lots of choices. When one piece of pussy gets to be troublesome to deal with just get a new piece. That is what these hookers are. Pieces of ass that suck cock on command for $200/hr. Nothing more. They are not your friends, they are hookers who don't want to work a real job or are too crazy/messed up to do so.[/QUOTE]Well said. I learned a great deal from this post, and I hope to see more meaningful posts like this in the future. You are absolutely right about everything, but I wonder about the bit about not being friends with providers. Yes, we are customers, but I have found that good business relationships can become good personal ones (but not the other way around.) I like to think I am friendly with several of the providers I have met over the years, and they can be more relaxed around me like I am around them. But I don't carry on personal "relations" with them in real life, if that's what you meant.
PS. Loved the fact that you used all CAPS!
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak] say DUEL, between two male members (no pun intended).
The task at hand will be to secure a double “Glory Hole”, give the lady who is interested in stepping out on her husband the measuring device, insert member into holes on opposite sides and well you get the drift. Think of all the recent issues that could be resolved with this opportunity. Length and width would be tallied; results would be made public on the board to prove SJ’s statement of fact; and the wife would finally get her chance to satisfy her desires. This is a win - win opportunity.
I think some background music would be fitting as well......how about dueling banjos?
With the boone and crockett book in mind LOL. Measure all members parts as if you were scoring a set of deer antlers? This could get very interesting.
Mymopar
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[QUOTE=Freckle Freak]I think a challenge has been issued on this board. Whose member is larger?[/QUOTE]Personally, I don't want to know how large anyone else's "member" is, not because it's gross or I'm a homophobe, simply because according to every provider I've ever seen, mine has been the biggest cock she's ever had. I would hate to wreck that fantasy in the name of competition.
[QUOTE=Handfulofwheel]Unfortunately you've got me being the monitor, but if that's the price for Senior Membership, I guess I should pay my dues. Besides, you'll have to be there too since the gal you want to see will want to be there as well. Probably with me.
Sorry I didn't get to say goodbye when you left the club, you just disappeared into the sunset like the Lone Ranger.[/QUOTE]
I tried, but as usual, you disappeared into the nether regions of ecstasy via private dances. I waited but was worn out from the previous night’s activities. I appologize for not waiting to say goodbye.
By the way it figures you would bring her to the “glory duel”. I have resided in the fact that you have to go on vacation, business trip or someplace out of town, before she will ever have the time to see me. I am humbled by your greatness and ability to always be one up on me.
FF
PS. Nice time, enjoyed the company but there was a lack of angle kisses throughout the entertainment section.
Dude if you had been with me Wednesday night you would now know what I do, and that is that $400 can be an incredible bargain. Wait- if this is an alter ego--were you with me Wednesday night? Actually if all of my friends hadn't deserted me, just kidding guys, I should have walked out with you when I had the chance, I wouldn't have to create an alter ego either, I am working on the name now. By the way MrP, I am upset with you, heard you might be coming by and everytime I came up for air, I would search the area hoping you made it and could rescue me, if not with your prior sage advice I foolishly didn't heed, at least to hold an intervention to save my sorry ass. Only a divine intervention kept me from a fate worse than it turned out. (Oh I don't now, winding up the next day married in the Bahamas to the most incredible creature,depending on which one of the diagnosed multiple personalities was there, really isn't that bad of a fate is it?) But back to PM-trying to run down FF is kind of a losing proposition, lord knows I have tried, but I have seen him make seasoned SP providers first blush from embarassment from his proposed ideas to stark pale white from fear and trepidation, enough to even make the kisses of angels lose their color, so have at him, but don't expect much effect.