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Hello all. Many thanks to everyone here who have led the way. Wanted to ask some of the veterans here for some guidance.

1) What is the best way to transition to the FC? Lets say you are out to dinner with a girl, and you want to go back to the FC. How would you propose this to the girl? When I have gone out with girls so far, it hasn't been clear that we would go up on the first meet much less have settled on a dollar figure. How are you guys playing out this key moment where you ask her to go up and you tell her what you will pay her?

2) Ideally, I would like to screen for expectations upfront as much as possible to screen for GPS. When you are messaging with girls, how are you bringing up what you will pay them for sugar? I have tried asking girls what their expectations are but that usually produces a vague response. Do most of you guys come up front with what you are willing to offer per meet, and if so how are you saying this?

Thanks again for everyones help!

Thats very interesting feedback! May I ask how much direct? Like, do you even put out what allowance you are willing to pay? Thanks.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3029202]I have to say that since I changed my SA profile, in which I made my intentions very very direct, I have been getting some great replies. And from some really nice looking young ladies. Their profiles are ones I may have passed up before. About half are the ones I expect. But the other half are from really sweet looking, young and curious girls I may have just ignored before. Many with the higher expectation amounts that many times turn me off to even messaging them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lebruno;3029409]Thats very interesting feedback! May I ask how much direct? Like, do you even put out what allowance you are willing to pay? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Being dirrct is nothing new and should be put in your profile. Use common sence and don't be a dick, or come on like your talking to a hooker. If interested in bdsm say so, subs, or what fetish your looking for. Be polite and don't come off like a monger. Pretty simple stuff, not rocket science.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3029507]Being direct is nothing new and should be put in your profile. Use common sense and don't be a dick, or come on like your talking to a hooker. If interested in bdsm say so, subs, or what fetish your looking for. Be polite and don't come off like a monger. Pretty simple stuff, not rocket science.[/QUOTE]I am looking for subs, but the one I met a couple days ago was a first timer. I suppose after I handed her the cash her status officially changed. But the thrill of the SD sites is to be the first. But there are so many nuances you don't want to be super direct or too vague. It like casting a wide net as opposed to line fishing. My point more clearly made would be to try various levels of directness until you hit the sweet spot. I have changed my profile multiple times and continue to refine my intro and pat answers as I get more feedback. It's an ongoing process.

There is a limit to directness. You might crave DT, but its probably not a good idea to say that on an SD profile. I mostly date black and asian girls (and date white less than 5% of the time) but I don't say that in my profile either. So some things I leave the door open on, and others I get very strict with. Even specifically spelling it out is no guarantee they are gonna be into it. Many times they just like you and feel their other qualities will make up for certain things you were hoping for. Sometimes that works.. like my last date. And sometimes not which is disappointing. But hey, it's all in the game.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3029690]I am looking for subs, but the one I met a couple days ago was a first timer. I suppose after I handed her the cash her status officially changed. But the thrill of the SD sites is to be the first. But there are so many nuances you don't want to be super direct or too vague. It like casting a wide net as opposed to line fishing. My point more clearly made would be to try various levels of directness until you hit the sweet spot. I have changed my profile multiple times and continue to refine my intro and pat answers as I get more feedback. It's an ongoing process.

There is a limit to directness. You might crave DT, but its probably not a good idea to say that on an SD profile. I mostly date black and asian girls (and date white less than 5% of the time) but I don't say that in my profile either. So some things I leave the door open on, and others I get very strict with. Even specifically spelling it out is no guarantee they are gonna be into it. Many times they just like you and feel their other qualities will make up for certain things you were hoping for. Sometimes that works.. like my last date. And sometimes not which is disappointing. But hey, it's all in the game.[/QUOTE]My profile says looking for something special, looking for a sub. Thats as direct it gets till text mrssage. Just because they say the are doesn't mean they are. Everyone has different definition. Had one girl think a sub was someone who stood in for your sb while on vacation LOL. If they say their sub then I ask to describe what they have done. Then I des ribe what I expect. Either they drop out or we continue. Your first few meetings takes time to feel each other out and get comfortable for most. Now some freaks just jump right in. Depends on the person.

From the last round of POTS that i posted I didn't get any of them. The one I did get I wasn't even thinking about. She just suddenly pulled the trigger. Here is the next round.

19 - and OMG tiny. Under 5 feet.

23 - slender and shy looking - 5.3

18 - asian and curious - 5 feet.

20 - seems the most likely to follow through - 5.2

All young, small and petite or slender.

Well if Pablo Picasso had his "Blue" phase I would venture to say you are on your way to your "Spinner" phase.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3029808]From the last round of POTS that i posted I didn't get any of them. The one I did get I wasn't even thinking about. She just suddenly pulled the trigger. Here is the next round.

The 19 year old "OMG tiny. Under 5 feet" is the cutest IMHO

19 - and OMG tiny. Under 5 feet.

23 - slender and shy looking - 5.3

18 - asian and curious - 5 feet.

20 - seems the most likely to follow through - 5.2

All young, small and petite or slender.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3029808]From the last round of POTS that i posted I didn't get any of them. The one I did get I wasn't even thinking about. She just suddenly pulled the trigger. Here is the next round.

19 - and OMG tiny. Under 5 feet.

23 - slender and shy looking - 5.3

18 - asian and curious - 5 feet.

20 - seems the most likely to follow through - 5.2

All young, small and petite or slender.[/QUOTE]Been spending time with my hot Latina. More like BF situation. But Damn HG these are all incredible. Would you be willing to share your new template in PM? I always change my profile to suit my personality but your help through the years has proved invaluable. Here are some I have been Messaging.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;3033242]Been spending time with my hot Latina. More like BF situation. But Damn HG these are all incredible. Would you be willing to share your new template in PM? I always change my profile to suit my personality but your help through the years has proved invaluable. Here are some I have been Messaging.[/QUOTE]So far none of my posted pots has come through. I did get one I wasn't really thinking about earlier in the week. She was a bit overwhelmed but couldn't stop smiling. But when it came time for a repeat on Friday she tried to up the ante to $.5... So I declined and saw my ATF instead. As far as the template, for now I am gonna hold onto that.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3033432] As far as the template, for now I am gonna hold onto that.[/QUOTE]Who could blame you! Guess it's time to get the creative juices going. .

[QUOTE=LargeEss;3033606]Who could blame you! Guess it's time to get the creative juices going. .[/QUOTE]Write a few good pat answers (that sound conversational) to some commonly asked questions. Its a big time saver.

Sugaring on a budget sucks. I need to make some bank and start fucking the $$ girls.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3035499]Sugaring on a budget sucks. I need to make some bank and start fucking the $$ girls.[/QUOTE]Welcome to my world Yoast! Name that movie and you win five bucks hahahah. But seriously it does, It is worth while when you score but lot more work it seems. You wrote the book on this shit bro you will be fine.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3035499]Sugaring on a budget sucks. I need to make some bank and start fucking the $$ girls.[/QUOTE]I hear you loud and clear. I barely even can find SBs in the $$ range. Getting offers for $$$ and $$ per date. Way too rich for my blood. The only ones that are willing to take $. 5 still live with their parents and can't host. I'm giving this until the end of this month and then it is back to regular mongering. Too much work.

[QUOTE=BlackBone;3035834]Welcome to my world Yoast! Name that movie and you win five bucks hahahah. But seriously it does, It is worth while when you score but lot more work it seems. You wrote the book on this shit bro you will be fine.[/QUOTE]Well I am on a mission to get out of this damn recession. Learning how to get the $ girls was and is good training for when I step back into the $$ girls. Because I have already done enough research to know that at $$ they will all be like 8 quality or higher looking girls. Still no guarantee of performance. But even when they don't make it past a date or two, they"re still nicer to look at.

I need a short primer on this app. I have a burner that isn't smart, and a personal smart phone. I have a POT who wants to chat on Kik. According to Wikipedia, I can get an account without revealing anything, but I am still unsure about this idea. Is there any chance at all there will be some breadcrumbs left behind on my smart phone that the SO could find?? I have searched USASG to no avail. What Wiki says is trumped by what a real SD who has skin in the game says.

What do you guys think about the girls you always see on SA? I have been a member about 2 months, and there are faces I see over and over again. Some I contacted before, some I skipped, some tempt me to try now when before I thought they were out of my league. Anyway, is it a fair guess that they are all UTR? Is that a good indicator of UTRs? How do you think about it? I guess the reverse doesn't mean much (guys always on the site) - just what we thought many of us were doing. Trying to get as much pussy as we can.

An interesting subject. I tend to focus on newbies. They don't seem to be as hardened or professional as the longer term girls. By contrast, many of the new girls want an SD with experience. Many of the longer term "hardened" girls are also looking for newbie SDs they can take advantage of. We almost all make newbie mistakes by over paying and not settings expectations. Many hardened girls know it.

Use your experience as a plus. Talk about the successful arrangements you've had that have been mutually beneficial. New girls find it very comforting.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3036762]What do you guys think about the girls you always see on SA? I have been a member about 2 months, and there are faces I see over and over again. Some I contacted before, some I skipped, some tempt me to try now when before I thought they were out of my league. Anyway, is it a fair guess that they are all UTR? Is that a good indicator of UTRs? How do you think about it? I guess the reverse doesn't mean much (guys always on the site) - just what we thought many of us were doing. Trying to get as much pussy as we can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3037176]An interesting subject. I tend to focus on newbies. They don't seem to be as hardened or professional as the longer term girls. By contrast, many of the new girls want an SD with experience. Many of the longer term "hardened" girls are also looking for newbie SDs they can take advantage of. We almost all make newbie mistakes by over paying and not settings expectations. Many hardened girls know it.

Use your experience as a plus. Talk about the successful arrangements you've had that have been mutually beneficial. New girls find it very comforting.[/QUOTE]All very true. I try to catch them on their first day. I know some guys like to wait a week or so. But by then, many are already gone. My first SB was a pro SB. Boy did she take me for a ride. But I learned a lot and it changed my life.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3036477]I need a short primer on this app. I have a burner that isn't smart, and a personal smart phone. I have a POT who wants to chat on Kik. According to Wikipedia, I can get an account without revealing anything, but I am still unsure about this idea. Is there any chance at all there will be some breadcrumbs left behind on my smart phone that the SO could find?? I have searched USASG to no avail. What Wiki says is trumped by what a real SD who has skin in the game says.[/QUOTE]I'd stay away from KIK. If I remember correctly, if someone downloads the KIK app (your S. O.) and that person has you in their phone book it will suggest you as a contact or friend. I deleted it from my phone after that.

I suggest.

A. buy a new smartphone burner. (I had a hard time communicating with younger girls due to my non smart phone burner, as you mentioned apps, pics etc).

B. buy a used smartphone, and use it pre-paid. Some prepaid companies have kits to use an old smart phone and get a new prepaid number on it.

C. Want to keep the old burner number, I believe they have kits to upgrade the phone on a prepaid plan.

Again, this is from what I remember so sorry if its not completely accurate. I would proceed with caution.

Thanks for the info, XBX. And haven't seen on the thread you in a while. Welcome back. Alas, it is too late. I will tell you the context below. I was promised I could delete the app before I went home and it was unlikely there would be a connection made. Installing and deleting each time is a pain, though.

I caught a break on Craigslist for a girl with a pretty cryptic post. Turns out she's a 28 YO from Utah who's coming with her GF to soCal Labor Day weekend for their birthdays. Shared several smoking hot pics. She might be UTR, but perhaps just a party girl. Lives *very* well. Anyway, we have chatted a lot by email and she appears genuinely interested in me and someone to 'show her around'. For some reason she wants to use KIK before giving me her phone #.

That mode of operation is similar to Skype, I believe. I appreciate the guidance about phones. I am thinking about getting a smart phone through the 'bring your own' feature of a major prepaid carrier we all know. My brainstorm is to exactly duplicate the smartphone I just got for my civi #. A subtle mark will let me know which is which, reducing danger in case of accidental discovery.

[QUOTE=XxBullXx;3037668]I'd stay away from KIK. If I remember correctly, if someone downloads the KIK app (your S. O.) and that person has you in their phone book it will suggest you as a contact or friend. I deleted it from my phone after that.

I suggest.

A. buy a new smartphone burner. (I had a hard time communicating with younger girls due to my non smart phone burner, as you mentioned apps, pics etc).

B. buy a used smartphone, and use it pre-paid. Some prepaid companies have kits to use an old smart phone and get a new prepaid number on it.

C. Want to keep the old burner number, I believe they have kits to upgrade the phone on a prepaid plan.

Again, this is from what I remember so sorry if its not completely accurate. I would proceed with caution.[/QUOTE]

OK, lost touch with the SB, and now I can't uninstall Kik from the damn phone. Follow the obvious instructions that delete other apps, but it doesn't work. I did click a link in the email Kik sent me to establish the account with them, and it said the account was deleted with Kik, but the damn app is still there. It's a Windows 10 phone, FYI. So, yes, *don't* do Kik unless it is on your burner.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3037691]Thanks for the info, XBX. And haven't seen on the thread you in a while. Welcome back. Alas, it is too late. I will tell you the context below. I was promised I could delete the app before I went home and it was unlikely there would be a connection made. Installing and deleting each time is a pain, though.

I caught a break on Craigslist for a girl with a pretty cryptic post. Turns out she's a 28 YO from Utah who's coming with her GF to soCal Labor Day weekend for their birthdays. Shared several smoking hot pics. She might be UTR, but perhaps just a party girl. Lives *very* well. Anyway, we have chatted a lot by email and she appears genuinely interested in me and someone to 'show her around'. For some reason she wants to use KIK before giving me her phone #.

That mode of operation is similar to Skype, I believe. I appreciate the guidance about phones. I am thinking about getting a smart phone through the 'bring your own' feature of a major prepaid carrier we all know. My brainstorm is to exactly duplicate the smartphone I just got for my civi #. A subtle mark will let me know which is which, reducing danger in case of accidental discovery.[/QUOTE]

Whenever I see my best friend (a never married, retired from the game, super monger), he always says to me. "Hey, you seeing anyone lately"? . and if I am, I always say "yeah her name is so-and-so and she is this and that". And then he always says to me, "Yeah, well you know she's crazy. Right" And I'm like how do you know that? . Then he says "Well she's with you, so she must be crazy". No matter how many times we have this exchange I always fall for it. Like charlie brown and the football.

If you are 50 or older and only date like 18-22 year olds, you know why you do it, they know why they are doing it, and everyone is happy. And my friend is maybe the most notorious monger I ever met (and he could afford to be). But to try and explain this to anyone in the civi world, is mostly impossible and probably not a good idea. I'm single, so I don't really have to hide what I do. But my family, some co-workers and a couple friends know, and I would say their overall approval rating of my behavior is rather low (except for the few high fives). But do I give a shit? I moved to hollywood as a kid for good reason. Because nobody here really gives a shit either. Stay thirsty, my friends.

I am getting a little frustrated with really HCP who I message but don't respond. An example is SerenaMadison2016 in Newport Beach. I have hit up 75 of these types unsuccessfully in my couple of months on SA. I likely couldn't manage one like that ongoing, but I would sure like to try her once or twice. HollywoodGuy says you could have anyone on SA for 5/ visit, but I am not so sure about that. But, even if that were so, you have to get them to engage. I can afford and would pay more than that for a bucket-list experience. No different than my trip to the Super Bowl. Anyway, how do I get these girls? I am hoping one of you SDs with more game than me with this class of girl will share some key from your profile or from your initial approach message. I earlier posted about my success by being myself, which is satisfying, and that trying to emulate the HG approach didn't work for me. On the other hand, if there is a trick that could work for SerenaMadison2016 for one or two dates, I would go there.

Another thing I've been thinking about on my profile is the income and net worth. I purposely set these low, to try to avoid vacuous girls or nasty gold-diggers who see only $. I would far prefer nailing someone with whom I have a personal connection and is not there only for a payday. I already know what an escort is. But, as the old saying (to girls) goes, it is just as easy to marry a rich man as a poor one. My real net worth is like 10 X what I list. Perhaps I should put up a new profile with higher numbers as an experiment, or change my old one when I renew my membership (I am sort of dormant now as I have a great SB to support).

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3038164]I am getting a little frustrated with really HCP who I message but don't respond. An example is SerenaMadison2016 in Newport Beach. I have hit up 75 of these types unsuccessfully in my couple of months on SA. I likely couldn't manage one like that ongoing, but I would sure like to try her once or twice. HollywoodGuy says you could have anyone on SA for 5/ visit, but I am not so sure about that. But, even if that were so, you have to get them to engage. I can afford and would pay more than that for a bucket-list experience. No different than my trip to the Super Bowl. Anyway, how do I get these girls? I am hoping one of you SDs with more game than me with this class of girl will share some key from your profile or from your initial approach message. I earlier posted about my success by being myself, which is satisfying, and that trying to emulate the HG approach didn't work for me. On the other hand, if there is a trick that could work for SerenaMadison2016 for one or two dates, I would go there.

Another thing I've been thinking about on my profile is the income and net worth. I purposely set these low, to try to avoid vacuous girls or nasty gold-diggers who see only $. I would far prefer nailing someone with whom I have a personal connection and is not there only for a payday. I already know what an escort is. But, as the old saying (to girls) goes, it is just as easy to marry a rich man as a poor one. My real net worth is like 10 X what I list. Perhaps I should put up a new profile with higher numbers as an experiment, or change my old one when I renew my membership (I am sort of dormant now as I have a great SB to support).[/QUOTE]I looked at her profile. It's only two days old! In two days she probably got like 100+ messages and a bunch of them were crude, you can be sure. At this point she is lost. Guys are offering her thousands upfront to meet her. Most likely she won't even be on the site in a week. 18 year olds are the toughest to get as a rule. The difference between 18,19 and 20. Is like the difference between middle school, high school and college. You feel me? The only way to get a girl like her would be to pace and then lead her (if you don't know what that means, look it up). Except her profile gives you so little to start with you would have to engage her in some small talk first. Overall this one specific profile is tough.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3038220]I looked at her profile. It's only two days old! In two days she probably got like 100+ messages and a bunch of them were crude, you can be sure. At this point she is lost. Guys are offering her thousands upfront to meet her. Most likely she won't even be on the site in a week. 18 year olds are the toughest to get as a rule. The difference between 18,19 and 20. Is like the difference between middle school, high school and college. You feel me? The only way to get a girl like her would be to pace and then lead her (if you don't know what that means, look it up). Except her profile gives you so little to start with you would have to engage her in some small talk first. Overall this one specific profile is tough.[/QUOTE]18 year olds are prizes? I really don't get that. They are like lost human zombies. Ooo, lookie here 💍💎💞🐷

Retard candy. Give me experience.

[QUOTE=Christophe1;3038225]18 year olds are prizes? I really don't get that. They are like lost human zombies. Ooo, lookie here 💍💎💞🐷

Retard candy. Give me experience.[/QUOTE]Watching the olympics just reinforces my natural desire to coach girls with raw talent. I will admit that 18 is usually a lost cause, 19 and they are on their way, by 20 they either have it or they don't. Anything older than 20 and they should be wifey. LOL. But seriously I have been with some awesome girls, maybe I have to do the training, but then at least I get what I want, the way I want it. And they are doing things they may or may not do in the future. But they have that 'I'll try anything once attitude". A curious girl is a sexy girl. A been there done that girl better be ready for the ride of her life. By 25 they are already prejudiced towards certain people, places and things, that I will have no control over.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;3033606]Who could blame you! Guess it's time to get the creative juices going. .[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites&p=3028524&viewfull=1#post3028524[/URL]

BT.

I think this girl was 26.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3038220]I looked at her profile. It's only two days old! In two days she probably got like 100+ messages and a bunch of them were crude, you can be sure. At this point she is lost. Guys are offering her thousands upfront to meet her. Most likely she won't even be on the site in a week. 18 year olds are the toughest to get as a rule. The difference between 18,19 and 20. Is like the difference between middle school, high school and college. You feel me? The only way to get a girl like her would be to pace and then lead her (if you don't know what that means, look it up). Except her profile gives you so little to start with you would have to engage her in some small talk first. Overall this one specific profile is tough.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3038047] And my friend is maybe the most notorious monger I ever met (and he could afford to be). But to try and explain this to anyone in the civi world, is mostly impossible and probably not a good idea. I'm single, so I don't really have to hide what I do. But my family, some co-workers and a couple friends know, and I would say their overall approval rating of my behavior is rather low (except for the few high fives). But do I give a shit? I moved to hollywood as a kid for good reason. Because nobody here really gives a shit either. Stay thirsty, my friends.[/QUOTE]Can I ask why your friend quit? If he has the money, experience in getting women, and a strong drive, what finally made him stop?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3037691]Thanks for the info, XBX. And haven't seen on the thread you in a while. [/QUOTE]I'm around, just being a good boy right now.

Living vicariously through you guys.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3038164]Another thing I've been thinking about on my profile is the income and net worth. I purposely set these low, to try to avoid vacuous girls or nasty gold-diggers who see only $. I would far prefer nailing someone with whom I have a personal connection and is not there only for a payday. I already know what an escort is. But, as the old saying (to girls) goes, it is just as easy to marry a rich man as a poor one. My real net worth is like 10 X what I list. Perhaps I should put up a new profile with higher numbers as an experiment, or change my old one when I renew my membership (I am sort of dormant now as I have a great SB to support).[/QUOTE]No girl really cares how much money a guy has, only how much he is willing to spend. So if you want more replies. Just up your expectation amount. Mine is at negotiable. Maybe raise yours to moderate?

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3039094]So I did my M&G with the 20 year old She really does have model looks and a swimsuit body. More body than looks, but no complaints. She is on a full ride academic scholarship at a PAC-12 school nearby (lives in the dorm). I thought I was dreaming when she walked up to the front door. We had a good 30 minutes to talk before she had to run back to school. Definitely the classiest girl I have met in a while. At a $ a date you have to give up a little class sometimes. But not in this case. And she is only a 15 dollar uber away. I am in no rush to get her to the FC. I don't want to lose this one by moving too fast. I am sure at $$-$$$$ there are lot of awesome college girls to be had on SA. So maybe my luck is changing. It's been a year since I met a keeper. The last two for anyone that reads my posts, were my church girl and my UTR who got pregnant. I been leaning on my ATF for almost two years now, thats a long time.[/QUOTE]Always an inspiration to us all. Can't wait to hear how it goes with her.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3038252]Watching the olympics just reinforces my natural desire to coach girls with raw talent. I will admit that 18 is usually a lost cause, 19 and they are on their way, by 20 they either have it or they don't. Anything older than 20 and they should be wifey. LOL. But seriously I have been with some awesome girls, maybe I have to do the training, but then at least I get what I want, the way I want it. And they are doing things they may or may not do in the future. But they have that 'I'll try anything once attitude". A curious girl is a sexy girl. A been there done that girl better be ready for the ride of her life. By 25 they are already prejudiced towards certain people, places and things, that I will have no control over.[/QUOTE]Thanks brother,

In my minimal amount of decades, I'd rather pay extra to enjoy a great show. All day and night, just give it to me. But, why pay for an idiot, Zombie chick? I go la-la.

La-la???

Eating brains is so yesteryear's calendar.

The old adage is this. There is a sucker born everyday. I pity that sucker.

Peaches and Cream.

Olympics are the most greatest of sporting events. Go Teams.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3039094]So I did my M&G with the 20 year old She really does have model looks and a swimsuit body. More body than looks, but no complaints. She is on a full ride academic scholarship at a PAC-12 school nearby (lives in the dorm). I thought I was dreaming when she walked up to the front door. We had a good 30 minutes to talk before she had to run back to school. Definitely the classiest girl I have met in a while. At a $ a date you have to give up a little class sometimes. But not in this case. And she is only a 15 dollar uber away. And I'm in no rush to get her to the FC. I don't want to lose this one by moving too fast. At $$-$$$$ there are a lot of awesome college girls to be had on SA. So maybe my luck is changing. It's been a year since I met a keeper. The last two for anyone that reads my posts, were my church girl and my UTR who got pregnant. So far every trip I took to the FC with a new girl this year has been a one time hookup. And I've been leaning on my ATF for almost two years now, thats a long time. But props to my ATF for her loyalty and porn star skills.[/QUOTE]So I had my first real date with the college girl. It didn't go quite on schedule, as my roommate got home from work before I made it to the FC. So I turned the front porch into the FC, which always puts a little spark into the sex. This girl has a basically perfect body, good natural ability, and open to probably anything. The porch is more of a quick diversion between rounds kinda place. But I didn't really have a choice. So I went for some DATY, then fucked her and she finished me with a decent BJ.

But I kind of have a deal that I don't have sex with anyone when my roommate is home, since she is still sleeping with me for now and hasn't moved into her own room yet. So she got a little jealous and made sure the other girl knew it. Once we were done fucking, she told me to send her home. It was no big deal, the date didn't give two shits, as she got what she came for. Total time, 6 hours, dinner, uber & allowance came to $.5. I am sure I will be seeing her again soon.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3039094]So I did my M&G with the 20 year old She really does have model looks and a swimsuit body. More body than looks, but no complaints. She is on a full ride academic scholarship at a PAC-12 school nearby (lives in the dorm). I thought I was dreaming when she walked up to the front door. We had a good 30 minutes to talk before she had to run back to school. Definitely the classiest girl I have met in a while. At a $ a date you have to give up a little class sometimes. But not in this case. And she is only a 15 dollar uber away. And I'm in no rush to get her to the FC. I don't want to lose this one by moving too fast. At $$-$$$$ there are a lot of awesome college girls to be had on SA. So maybe my luck is changing. It's been a year since I met a keeper. The last two for anyone that reads my posts, were my church girl and my UTR who got pregnant. So far every trip I took to the FC with a new girl this year has been a one time hookup. And I've been leaning on my ATF for almost two years now, thats a long time. But props to my ATF for her loyalty and porn star skills.[/QUOTE]Damn your right, nothing can replace a 20 yo with a body like that. I'm beyond jealous. Any chance if and when your done with her and move onto the next you can hook me up?

TTM.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3040855]So I had my first real date with the college girl. It didn't go quite on schedule, as my roommate got home from work before I made it to the FC. So I turned the front porch into the FC, which always puts a little spark into the sex. This girl has a basically perfect body, good natural ability, and open to probably anything. The porch is more of a quick diversion between rounds kinda place. But I didn't really have a choice. So I went for some DATY, then fucked her and she finished me with a decent BJ.

But I kind of have a deal that I don't have sex with anyone when my roommate is home, since she is still sleeping with me for now and hasn't moved into her own room yet. So she got a little jealous and made sure the other girl knew it. Once we were done fucking, she told me to send her home. It was no big deal, the date didn't give two shits, as she got what she came for. Total time, 6 hours, dinner, uber & allowance came to $.5. I am sure I will be seeing her again soon.[/QUOTE]Living the dream, sir. I've had to scale back my sugaring the last couple of months, so I'll just live vicariously through you for the time being.

Well today I was hoping to do an M&G with a really hot little mixed latina close to my house but she got cold feet or IDK what. All I know is she went MIA. About an hour later a different 19 year old latina who I had deleted out of my spreadsheet (for the same reason a week earlier), txts me and says she is bored and will I see her today. Online, all we had ever done was chat about nothing. So I ubered her to DTLA and went and got her as I had an errand to run down there and then we went to Langers for a pastrami sandwich.

She had me convinced that she just wanted to hang out (sans sugar), so I was like well I have 2 more hours worth of errands and shopping to do, so if you want to ride shotgun and pass some time, let's go. After getting everything done we went back to my place where we chatted for a couple of more hours while I did some work. After a while I was sure she was striking some sexy poses (sometimes I am a bit clueless), but I noticed the time and told her I needed to get back to work for real and that I would just call the uber.

Then she looks at me and says "I want to get paid". So I told her no problem, but I only pay a $ for a play date. She said she wasn't really comfortable with taking cold cash and could I take her shopping afterward and just spend the money on some clothes. I was like, well its too late for that now because I have to go back to work. She said ok, and then proceeded to strip. Just at that moment the mailman came and dropped off a package. It was a glass dildo I bought to use on my ATF.

So I asked if she was cool with me using it on her to break it in. She was like yeah, go for it. And then the games began. She had a couple of restrictions (covered and no DFK) but I still managed to find a way to have some fun. Its amazing how a girl will give you a restriction for one thing, but then could care less about something equally or more fun/kinky. All in all it was an experience (the kinky part of her was hot). And her body wasn't perfect like the girl last night, but she was a petite nice girl and did spend about 6 hours with me (one in the FC). Sometimes you just want to hit and run. But sometimes its nice to have some company on a slow day. Lunch, uber and allowance came to $.3... And my roommate was all smiles again this morning after a good nites sleep.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;3041303]Damn your right, nothing can replace a 20 yo with a body like that. I'm beyond jealous. Any chance if and when your done with her and move onto the next you can hook me up?

TTM.[/QUOTE]That would be difficult. But if I was totally done done with her. I would just post a link to her SA profile. I can't wait to have a real session with her in my room. Most likely later this week. My ATF has been txting me like twice daily and sending sexy messages again since I backed her down. She claims to be looking for a job. I hope she gets one. But the big-time allowances are done for now. And no advances that need to get worked off. Too much pressure. And I do need to find a new go to girl, whether its this 20 year old Or someone else.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3041837]Well today I was hoping to do an M&G with a really hot little mixed latina close to my house but she got cold feet or IDK what. All I know is she went MIA. About an hour later a different 19 year old latina who I had deleted out of my spreadsheet (for the same reason a week earlier), txts me and says she is bored and will I see her today. Online, all we had ever done was chat about nothing. So I ubered her to DTLA and went and got her as I had an errand to run down there and then we went to Langers for a pastrami sandwich.

She had me convinced that she just wanted to hang out (sans sugar), so I was like well I have 2 more hours worth of errands and shopping to do, so if you want to ride shotgun and pass some time, let's go. After getting everything done we went back to my place where we chatted for a couple of more hours while I did some work. After a while I was sure she was striking some sexy poses (sometimes I am a bit clueless), but I noticed the time and told her I needed to get back to work for real and that I would just call the uber.

Then she looks at me and says "I want to get paid". So I told her no problem, but I only pay a $ for a play date. She said she wasn't really comfortable with taking cold cash and could I take her shopping afterward and just spend the money on some clothes. I was like, well its too late for that now because I have to go back to work. She said ok, and then proceeded to strip. Just at that moment the mailman came and dropped off a package. It was a glass dildo I bought to use on my ATF.

So I asked if she was cool with me using it on her to break it in. She was like yeah, go for it. And then the games began. She had a couple of restrictions (covered and no DFK) but I still managed to find a way to have some fun. Its amazing how a girl will give you a restriction for one thing, but then could care less about something equally or more fun/kinky. All in all it was an experience (the kinky part of her was hot). And her body wasn't perfect like the girl last night, but she was a petite nice girl and did spend about 6 hours with me (one in the FC). Sometimes you just want to hit and run. But sometimes its nice to have some company on a slow day. Lunch, uber and allowance came to $.3... And my roommate was all smiles again this morning after a good nites sleep.[/QUOTE]HG,

I continue to be amazed at your exploits. I got to quit procrastinating and get on the SA site LOL.