MotorCity Mayhem

[QUOTE=NotSureY;3421623]Well it looks like Mighty Monger was right, looks like Heather AKA RainMan2017 just got banned.

How long will it take for this crazy skank to make another account?[/QUOTE]I am curious on how it was decided that RainMan2017 was Heather. Just recently I had a conversation with RainMan2017 on PM regarding a SB provider that we had in common a couple years ago. He made comments of her that could only have been known by being in her bed. How in the world would another female provider know this? I also went through his old posts and nothing stood out to me as strange or provider-esque.

Keep in mind I am not trying to take sides or anything, I do not know RainMan2017 personally, and have no idea who Heather is outside of the little I have read. I just found all this drama intriguing, and at face value seems to be more of a personal vendetta rather than evidence based.

[QUOTE=CrisWilson;3421699]I am curious on how it was decided that RainMan2017 was Heather. Just recently I had a conversation with RainMan2017 on PM regarding a SB provider that we had in common a couple years ago. He made comments of her that could only have been known by being in her bed. How in the world would another female provider know this? I also went through his old posts and nothing stood out to me as strange or provider-esque.

Keep in mind I am not trying to take sides or anything, I do not know RainMan2017 personally, and have no idea who Heather is outside of the little I have read. I just found all this drama intriguing, and at face value seems to be more of a personal vendetta rather than evidence based.[/QUOTE]She made comments. I'm sure no one wants to spill the beans so as to assist fake provider accounts parading around as something they are not. I noticed in the language something just not right. As to how she knew what you claim? You will have to call her and ask or just observe her new account and pm it when you figure that one out. What is a SB provider? Is that sugar baby? Prostitutes run in strange circles and likely one of her clients met or talked to her about the SB and that is likely how she knew or they are acquainted.

[QUOTE=CrisWilson;3421699]I am curious on how it was decided that RainMan2017 was Heather.[/QUOTE][BLUE]"Don't give lessons at the poker table."

I'm not going to teach her how to hide better, but it's her.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;3421851][BLUE]"Don't give lessons at the poker table."

I'm not going to teach her how to hide better, but it's her.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]LOL Fair enough!

Don't do it.

If you give your real info to some verification site (or hooker). Bad decision.

Before you take anyone's advice you should see exactly some of the other bad decisions they've made and or some posts made here and elsewhere.

Some people have little to lose and offer up advice that might work for them, but for most others, like I've said, it's bad advice.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;3423960]Don't do it.

If you give your real info to some verification site (or hooker). Bad decision.

Before you take anyone's advice you should see exactly some of the other bad decisions they've made and or some posts made here and elsewhere.

Some people have little to lose and offer up advice that might work for them, but for most others, like I've said, it's bad advice.[/QUOTE]

Not to take drama to this board, but, dude. Please. What a weak argument. I guess I speak for all 36,411 users of P411 in your mind? LOL.

No need to repeat drama here dude, but, what you see as a bad decision, I see as successful info gathering and CYA. If you have the ridiculous situation I was in, you probably want to get written evidence on crimes.... which, you do by 'fishing' AKA posting for info. Especially when you cross state lines or have priors, it's not good to text a guy what you and your friend did.

Maybe you would too if in a similar spot, but, I won't encourage more flames. Just wanted to point out the tens of thousands in addition to several board members who disagree on P411. The info I have from fishing and getting texts would get the duo kicked off of P411 and every other national site. It's only the local stalker sites that gave a few women the confidence to do what they tried to.

Before you take some dude's advice that never dealt with a woman who wouldn't just go away... take some advice from one who has :) Get on a place that won't accept that trash and will kick them off.

[QUOTE=Taz41;3424177]Not to take drama to this board, but, dude. Please. What a weak argument. I guess I speak for all 36,411 users of P411 in your mind? LOL.

No need to repeat drama here dude, but, what you see as a bad decision, I see as successful info gathering and CYA. Maybe you would too if in a similar spot, but, I won't encourage more flames. Just wanted to point out the tens of thousands in addition to several board members who disagree on P411.[/QUOTE]Nobody I know would EVER give out real personal info to get pussy unless your a bad credit no brain fool. Cmon so called men your not that desperate are you. LOL so hard to fuking your personal life to get some hoes pussy. Better yet give them your bank account info because they will have it soon enough after all the info YOU already gave up for some pussy. I am a banker who has run into these fool types who have lost everything because they put out their info on these sites. Good luck and save the dumb comments on how it won't be you who gets takin for a fool again.

[QUOTE=SmoothDriver;3424213]Nobody I know would EVER give out real personal info to get pussy unless your a bad credit no brain fool. Cmon so called men your not that desperate are you. LOL so hard to fuking your personal life to get some hoes pussy. Better yet give them your bank account info because they will have it soon enough after all the info YOU already gave up for some pussy. I am a banker who has run into these fool types who have lost everything because they put out their info on these sites. Good luck and save the dumb comments on how it won't be you who gets takin for a fool again.[/QUOTE]Ok, for all you BP chasin, John are cruising little boys. YES, getting verified with P411 is NOT FOR YOU. If you stick to hood rats, you are fine.

If you are an accomplished adult, in need of some solid companionship with a LADY, not some 30 minute piece of trash at the local Clarion, getting verified with P411 will open doors to women all over Eros and other sites. Not everyone does their hobbying in their own backyard. I am going to Florida in August and will be looking to have some playtime. If I find a fox on Eros or another site, P411 will give me instant credibility. Some sophisiticated smoking hot chick who is by all accounts a "10" is not going to see you without some verification. P411 is a legit operation.

[QUOTE=SmoothDriver;3424213]Nobody I know would EVER give out real personal info to get pussy unless your a bad credit no brain fool. Cmon so called men your not that desperate are you. LOL so hard to fuking your personal life to get some hoes pussy. Better yet give them your bank account info because they will have it soon enough after all the info YOU already gave up for some pussy. I am a banker who has run into these fool types who have lost everything because they put out their info on these sites. Good luck and save the dumb comments on how it won't be you who gets takin for a fool again.[/QUOTE]I've never needed to give out my personal information, and nor would I ever. I had no problems.

Giving up your information is an act of laziness and desperation and hubris. It doesn't give you any credibility nor does it open any doors you couldn't take by smarter means.

Institutions are hacked all the time. Ashley Madison, T-mobile, Scottrade, Target, Democratic National Party, Clinton's private email servers.

Places like NR had shared their information with a lot of persons. Places like TER have given up their clients and hookers at the drop of a hat.

Giving anyone your private information is a mistake. Eventually people do get in trouble and there is a good reason for anything you say can and will be used against you. I say this not to be little or make fun or try to impress. I have seen the consequences of stupid actions.

Eros is a place where anyone even police can advertise. It is a place where people go who aren't privy to better options. Nothing magical or special, you just need the several hundreds of dollars required.

Lies are often more believable and fun and thus we would rather believe in a lie than see the truth that anyone selling themselves is in the same category regardless of where they advertise. Nothing special and it merely leads to ridiculous prices and lower services.

[QUOTE=Taz41;3423877]The key is to make it simple and be a pro. Send a note with the circumstances, contact info for ref, how they'll remember you, etc. There are many that don't check refs and don't require them, which isn't to say that lying works, but I'm saying get a ref or two and making it easy on the reviewer shows you're a pro, and many will just go with that.

Have to start somewhere, and there's someone to see that may be able to be used for a ref. Some trust their instincts more than refs so if they trust an email or your voice on the phone you have a shot. P411 shows you're serious about their safety even without referrals.[/QUOTE]When I first contacted Nikki of darlingnikki. [URL]indyfiles.com[/URL], she also requested references or P411. All I had was the name and phone number for Jamie, the escort who came to me; plus my UTR girl. But Nikki's main concern seemed to be only that I had some experience seeing escorts; she said she didn't actually contact my references. However, we spoke and texted quite a lot, and exchanged selfies, so that might have swayed her too.

After I had a session or two with her, I asked her about references, and she remarked she that everyone around here "sees the same fifteen girls" in the area. I failed to ask the names and numbers of those fifteen girls, though. Maybe next time.

[QUOTE=Poopypants;3440216]Not true. She is a female for sure. I had more than one appt. Second was better than first but decided to call it quits after a couple dumps. Claimed she was new but seemed to have somebody else answering texts. Also don't care for the extras charge even if it's the same amount as someone who doesn't. I don't like discussing or haggling over services. Its not necessarily just about the price.

Other than that, poster was right. Tiny and not bad looking if size is your thing. I would do her again but prefer to look for better new talent.[/QUOTE]I liked the part where your first post on this site was defending the provider that you claimed to have multiple visits with instead of having your first posts being reviews of said provider that you claimed to see multiple times.

[QUOTE=SanityIsRealit;3440918]I liked the part where your first post on this site was defending the provider that you claimed to have multiple visits with instead of having your first posts being reviews of said provider that you claimed to see multiple times.[/QUOTE]Dude, I ain't even defending her. I said she's OK if you're into tiny girls. My main comment was that she is a female. Someone who has no knowledge is posting false info.

I believe when she first started posting I had another review or post about her but had a different member name as I had lost all my login info and email associated with it.

Don't really matter to me. See whoever you want. Don't bother me a bit. I won't repeat again because I've moved on and there is better fish out there.

I don't peruse streetwalkers don't see worth risks LEO disease etc but no hate if that's your thing.

Just know that I know DPD friend (yes, regular cops don't give $& about vice) and they say the vice is pressured to fudge LIPIO (loitering in public intending offense ordinance if not bull bleep I don't know what is? A crime before you commit a crime what the fudge minority report) and asset forfeiture is big money for city and with them being insolvent even more pressure. I'd just avoid whole scene only reason LEO cares is money when those same resources could be spent fighting serious addictive drugs like crack, meth, and crocodile (anyone heard about later? It's new drug that gets you high one side effect IT ROTS YOU LIKE LEPEROSY). Sorry rant over be safe.

[QUOTE=Mchara;3481017]I don't peruse streetwalkers don't see worth risks LEO disease etc but no hate if that's your thing.

Just know that I know DPD friend (yes, regular cops don't give $& about vice) and they say the vice is pressured to fudge LIPIO (loitering in public intending offense ordinance if not bull bleep I don't know what is? A crime before you commit a crime what the fudge minority report) and asset forfeiture is big money for city and with them being insolvent even more pressure. I'd just avoid whole scene only reason LEO cares is money when those same resources could be spent fighting serious addictive drugs like crack, meth, and [b]crocodile (anyone heard about later?[/b] It's new drug that gets you high one side effect IT ROTS YOU LIKE LEPEROSY). Sorry rant over be safe.[/QUOTE]There was something about it on TV just the other day, man that stuff is messed up.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;3424812]I've never needed to give out my personal information, and nor would I ever. I had no problems.

Giving up your information is an act of laziness and desperation and hubris. It doesn't give you any credibility nor does it open any doors you couldn't take by smarter means.

Institutions are hacked all the time. Ashley Madison, T-mobile, Scottrade, Target, Democratic National Party, Clinton's private email servers.

Places like NR had shared their information with a lot of persons. Places like TER have given up their clients and hookers at the drop of a hat.

Giving anyone your private information is a mistake. Eventually people do get in trouble and there is a good reason for anything you say can and will be used against you. I say this not to be little or make fun or try to impress. I have seen the consequences of stupid actions.

Eros is a place where anyone even police can advertise. It is a place where people go who aren't privy to better options. Nothing magical or special, you just need the several hundreds of dollars required.

Lies are often more believable and fun and thus we would rather believe in a lie than see the truth that anyone selling themselves is in the same category regardless of where they advertise. Nothing special and it merely leads to ridiculous prices and lower services.[/QUOTE]Brother I said same in post long ago. The whole "courtesan" high class give me you life vitals and I'll call your workplace but hey it's safe is sheer STUPIDITY. I am speaking as friend of LEO who are NOT vice and think it's stupid unless leads to disease etc. And when these high class girls who you can "trust" get busted first thing uncle does is get files / black book or pressure them to roll to extort celebs. Cops can be crooked and into asset forfeiture et al same as organized crime but it's WORSE cause they have color of law and brainwashed media to back their bs. Don't do Eros bullshit OT anything else and be safe bros.