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[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7112020]She has a jav vid, if you want to get a better idea. Look up c-2879 jav. There's a 3 minute trailer. If you don't see it under the vid section, look under images for the cover. That should lead you to a trailer.[/QUOTE]Just curious did Elsa ever do any JAV?
[QUOTE=KingLoki;7113070]Just curious did Elsa ever do any JAV?[/QUOTE]No. But you can pay 400 to make a personal one with her, if / when she comes back.
[QUOTE=KingLoki;7113070]Just curious did Elsa ever do any JAV?[/QUOTE]No. But a very careful analysis shows an 80% match to Sonoya Mizuno from her work in Ex Machina (2014). Elsa's face differed every day depending on her make up and style, same as Sonoya. So it's a tricky thing to match. Obviously the boobs and ass differ, Elsa has a fantastic rounded ass and MM boobs. Just speaking of the face it's similar except the tip of the nose, Elsa's points up and Sonoya's points slightly down at the tip. Similar skin tone, Sonoya is taller. Elsa's hair is dyed dark brown. Elsa's fantastic ass deserves a second mention. What a gem.
If she comes back, as Monthehunt says you can do video for 400. Most jgirls are 200. We keep things private in order to keep good things going, so as bookers say videos are for private use. I'm in all my own videos, maybe you would pay not to see them. But they're a fun memory to me.
Sonoya photos attached. Again, the 80% is referring to just the raw face. Hair and make up really changes how a woman looks. There was a stripper I saw last week and when I went to stage she immediately said hi. That's weirdly friendly, I thought. She was quite thick, I don't like thick usually but there's something about her I like so I make an exception. After stage I ask her name and she says it. I say, I know another dancer with that name. Are you really allowed to take her name? She said, she's that girl. Oh wow, her hair is now black not dyed blonde. And she's gained 15 pounds which I hear later is from giving birth. I could not recognize her, but sure enough her raw face was the exact same. So things besides the face matter more than we think in our impressions.
Are any guys here into maximum looks rather than service? Especially the face, let's say Elsa level? Just curious since around Socal it's the minority of guys who are HYA hunters (under 30s, above average looks). Lately, many kgirls have gone East Coast. But I wonder what type you guys will like. Service queen MILFs tend to be the most popular by far, even if people don't say it out loud. They certainly beat AMP gilfs in looks, probably why. Eventually, another girl I know will go East Coast again, whether NOVA or Manhattan. Last time was Hani.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7113159]No. But a very careful analysis shows an 80% match to Sonoya Mizuno from her work in Ex Machina (2014). Elsa's face differed every day depending on her make up and style, same as Sonoya. So it's a tricky thing to match. Obviously the boobs and ass differ, Elsa has a fantastic rounded ass and MM boobs. Just speaking of the face it's similar except the tip of the nose, Elsa's points up and Sonoya's points slightly down at the tip. Similar skin tone, Sonoya is taller. Elsa's hair is dyed dark brown. Elsa's fantastic ass deserves a second mention. What a gem.
Sonoya photos attached. Again, the 80% is referring to just the raw face. Hair and make up really changes how a woman looks. There was a stripper I saw last week and when I went to stage she immediately said hi. That's weirdly friendly, I thought. She was quite thick, I don't like thick usually but there's something about her I like so I make an exception. After stage I ask her name and she says it. I say, I know another dancer with that name. Are you really allowed to take her name? She said, she's that girl. Oh wow, her hair is now black not dyed blonde. And she's gained 15 pounds which I hear later is from giving birth. I could not recognize her, but sure enough her raw face was the exact same. So things besides the face matter more than we think in our impressions.
Are any guys here into maximum looks no matter the level of service? Let's say Elsa level? Just curious since Socal it's not that common. Many kgirls have gone East Coast but I wonder what type you guys will like. Service queen MILFs tend to be the most popular by far, even if people don't say it out loud. They certainly beat AMP gilfs in looks, probably why.[/QUOTE]I've banged what I considered pretty hot, so hot I said she could star fish me and I'd be fine. Having said that, while she was able to suck me off for 11 minutes before I stopped her, everything else was pretty mediocre. I prefer at least GND in looks but S tier in service, like Hani. This is not including young green girls. Green girls, I love their honest moans, amazing bodies, and non pro behavior. But nothing is set in stone for me. Like how I'm interesting in banging k girl MILF Angela because she's a nasty service queen. I'm just waiting for her return.
Hello. I know you all have raved about Etsuko and last year I saw a provider that I forgot to review and couldn't recall their name, but I saved their listing picture.
Is this Etsuko? I ask because when I saw Etsuko's listing this year I thought the pictures were very similar.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7113159]Are any guys here into maximum looks rather than service? Especially the face, let's say Elsa level? Just curious since around Socal it's the minority of guys who are HYA hunters (under 30s, above average looks). Lately, many kgirls have gone East Coast. But I wonder what type you guys will like. Service queen MILFs tend to be the most popular by far, even if people don't say it out loud.[/QUOTE]First, I go for the looks. My ideal is 18 yo skinny, no tits, big ass with beautiful face. Kitty Katzu is top pornstar on my list. Hopes that agency sees this and brings that type in hehe.
I do want the gals to do what I want, if that's what you mean by service. That just means to take cock slamming their holes real hard, cum on face and mouth. I can do the work if the gal cooperates. Nothing out of the porn star order hehe. If they talk dirty that's a bonus.
I wouldn't be here. But also she doesn't write back anymore. But guys it was the best 400 I ever spent. And I don't care about ruining the market. She was worth it. When Leah MK asked me for 300 face I said no. I've never paid more than 200 face except for Elsa But to be honest if Elsa asked for 500 an hour, I would do it. Don't want to turn us all against ourselves but she's hotter than Etsuko.
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7113099]No. But you can pay 400 to make a personal one with her, if / when she comes back.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PinWheel97;7113328]I wouldn't be here. But also she doesn't write back anymore. But guys it was the best 400 I ever spent. And I don't care about ruining the market. She was worth it. When Leah MK asked me for 300 face I said no. I've never paid more than 200 face except for Elsa But to be honest if Elsa asked for 500 an hour, I would do it. Don't want to turn us all against ourselves but she's hotter than Etsuko.[/QUOTE]Its all personal taste, anyways. She was recently up in Canada for a few days, last day was 11/11:
[URL]https://asbvip.com/portfolio-view/elsa/[/URL]
My review of her: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33082-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7033715&viewfull=1[/URL]#post7033715.
Agency Ad: [URL]https://www.dmvgirlsva.com/copy-of-model-page-julia[/URL]
[QUOTE=Revvoctolot;7113266]Hello. I know you all have raved about Etsuko and last year I saw a provider that I forgot to review and couldn't recall their name, but I saved their listing picture.
Is this Etsuko? I ask because when I saw Etsuko's listing this year I thought the pictures were very similar.[/QUOTE]Short answer, yes. She went by Yuki at jb. In NY she went by Yuki / etsuko, depending on the few shops she was at.
[QUOTE=PinWheel97;7113328]I wouldn't be here. But also she doesn't write back anymore. But guys it was the best 400 I ever spent. And I don't care about ruining the market. She was worth it. When Leah MK asked me for 300 face I said no. I've never paid more than 200 face except for Elsa But to be honest if Elsa asked for 500 an hour, I would do it. Don't want to turn us all against ourselves but she's hotter than Etsuko.[/QUOTE]She actually used to charge $500 for video last year. She said not many guys got it but a few did. I think they are both 10's but I'd say Etsuko is a GND 10 that I would describe as really cute while to me Elsa is a model 10 that I would describe as really hot. Like if I saw a picture of Etsuko I would not expect her to do the things she does and the way she does them. I'd still choose Elsa over her 9/10 times she's my ATF. I can't explain it but sessions with her just felt different. She will respond to my IG comments but doesn't text me back anymore either.
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7113369]Its all personal taste, anyways. She was recently up in Canada for a few days, last day was 11/11:
[URL]https://asbvip.com/portfolio-view/elsa/[/URL][/QUOTE]It's great to see that she is still working. Start filling up those piggy banks, the months are going to fly by.
[QUOTE=Revvoctolot;7113266]Hello. I know you all have raved about Etsuko and last year I saw a provider that I forgot to review and couldn't recall their name, but I saved their listing picture.
Is this Etsuko? I ask because when I saw Etsuko's listing this year I thought the pictures were very similar.[/QUOTE]At first I was going to say no but after a closer look I think so? Not many girls have those thin bangs with huge tits. Similar mouth shape, I'm going to say yes but not 100% sure.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7113159]Are any guys here into maximum looks rather than service? Especially the face, let's say Elsa level? Just curious since around Socal it's the minority of guys who are HYA hunters (under 30s, above average looks). Lately, many kgirls have gone East Coast. But I wonder what type you guys will like. Service queen MILFs tend to be the most popular by far, even if people don't say it out loud. They certainly beat AMP gilfs in looks, probably why. Eventually, another girl I know will go East Coast again, whether NOVA or Manhattan. Last time was Hani.[/QUOTE]I don't mind below average service, as long as she has a good attitude and tries. It doesn't take much to make me happy. I can appreciate good service when I see it, but I view it as more of a bonus. I just want to bang hot girls. As long she she smiles and pretends like she wants to be there I'm happy. If I walk through a door and a girl is not an 8 or above in my eyes, I expect better service to make up for it. Hani was not that attractive to me and she looks like she's in MILF territory age wise, but her service and attitude was good enough to make me forget about it.
Most of the nova market is service looks I'd say because most k girls don't leave early for it being "too slow" unless they already have a bad reputation. I'll read reviews of guys saying a girl is so pretty or young and I get there and she's just not LOL. Sure it's subjective, I've probably seen girls who I think are hot while others would disagree, but it's also really telling that most of the top j girls in nova are usually not talked about for having good service. Saki is the most recent example.
Etsuko was a unicorn who had top looks and top service. In her second week she was booked up 3 days in advance at one point for the evening time slots. The whole town was lining up to see her.
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Are any guys here into maximum looks rather than service? Especially the face, let's say Elsa level? Just curious since around Socal it's the minority of guys who are HYA hunters (under 30s, above average looks). Lately, many kgirls have gone East Coast. But I wonder what type you guys will like. Service queen MILFs tend to be the most popular by far, even if people don't say it out loud. They certainly beat AMP gilfs in looks, probably why. Eventually, another girl I know will go East Coast again, whether NOVA or Manhattan. Last time was Hani.[/QUOTE]Looks for me. Elsa was ok. She's hot in NoVA cause she's the best that we got in a long while.
I love 23's and under girls but seem like lately lot of J-girls are at very least mid 20's and late 20's.
For services if they DFK that's good for me.
[QUOTE=Revvoctolot;7113266]Hello. I know you all have raved about Etsuko and last year I saw a provider that I forgot to review and couldn't recall their name, but I saved their listing picture.
Is this Etsuko? I ask because when I saw Etsuko's listing this year I thought the pictures were very similar.[/QUOTE]Yes that's Etsuko.
[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;7113301]First, I go for the looks. My ideal is 18 yo skinny, no tits, big ass with beautiful face. Kitty Katzu is top pornstar on my list. Hopes that agency sees this and brings that type in hehe.
I do want the gals to do what I want, if that's what you mean by service. That just means to take cock slamming their holes real hard, cum on face and mouth. I can do the work if the gal cooperates. Nothing out of the porn star order hehe. If they talk dirty that's a bonus.[/QUOTE]Little tits with big ass is the opposite of what is preferable in Asia, at least J / C / K girls-wise. If anything, it would be big tits and little ass. Big asses are just considered fat over there. Mina in NYC was a mixed Iranian / Japanese girl and she said she wasn't popular in Japan cause she had darker skin, thick thighs, and big ass with little titties. Very pretty face to me though, but yea she could lose a few pounds down below and would be hotter.
Given your preferences, I'm surprised you like Asians at all.
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7113369]Its all personal taste, anyways. She was recently up in Canada for a few days, last day was 11/11:
[URL]https://asbvip.com/portfolio-view/elsa/[/URL][/QUOTE]WTF she's still traveling? I thought she was on break in Japan.
[QUOTE=Kardoc;7113750]Looks for me. Elsa was ok. She's hot in NoVA cause she's the best that we got in a long while.
I love 23's and under girls but seem like lately lot of J-girls are at very least mid 20's and late 20's.
For services if they DFK that's good for me.[/QUOTE]The only girls, Asian or not, that are hotter than Elsa are girls hot enough to make a living off their looks without sex, like bottle service girls, actual models, or IG models. Some of them see dudes for money on the side, that's how they're always partying and flying to exotic locations, but not all of them. Outside of that, I haven't found any sex worker group offering full service that are consistently Elsa-level or better in looks. This includes American escorts both high end and low end, and strippers in any area of the US, street walkers, etc. AMP's or other types of shops like that are obviously not even in the running, they're consistently full of old ugly women.
Are you saying Elsa is only okay because you prefer a different body type / race / facial features, or because you have access to a group of sex workers who look similar to her but all are consistently hotter? If it's the 2nd option, mind sharing what group this is? I've hobbied across the USA and haven't found that. Even looking at overseas markets in videos online, they're on average much uglier than Elsa. I'm talking about porn videos or spycam videos in places like Tijuana strip clubs, Pattaya red light district, etc.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7113802]WTF she's still traveling? I thought she was on break in Japan.[/QUOTE]I need every jgirl lover to read this poem about when "a jgirl is on break".
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7039747&viewfull=1#post7039747[/URL]
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The only girls, Asian or not, that are hotter than Elsa are girls hot enough to make a living off their looks without sex, like bottle service girls, actual models, or IG models.[/QUOTE]A few actual models and IG models work for korgs. It's rare. But we want these girls to keep working and come back, so that's all we can say. 90% of modeling doesn't get paid much, it can be inconsistent and there are other reasons. Girls don't show you reality on IG as we know. I've had appointments with a few of them, 50 k and 150 k followers. Someone else showed me, I kind of wish they hadn't. I want to keep a good thing going.
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7113172]I prefer at least GND in looks but S tier in service, like Hani. This is not including young green girls. Green girls, I love their honest moans, amazing bodies, and non pro behavior.[/QUOTE]Some of us search far and wide for HYA. I sometimes drive an hour for them to expand my hunting range. Most of the new ones are real reaction, and they are quite varied and special to experience.
[QUOTE=OneNaughtyBear;7113627]I don't mind below average service, as long as she has a good attitude and tries.[/QUOTE]Yes, when newer girls make the effort, it's special. If I know how to teach something, I show her. After seeing one kgirl and dating her many times, I booked her again like old times. No problem at all of course, but there's this added trust. There are things I don't normally feel comfortable trying, but like even some light face fucking, it's not my thing. But with some feedback and teamwork, we tried it and make it happen. It was quite next level when you remember the fun night out you had the day before, the connection you have. There is one special girl and she is a friend for life.
[QUOTE=Kardoc;7113750]Looks for me. Elsa was ok. She's hot in NoVA cause she's the best that we got in a long while.[/QUOTE]Everyone has a different taste, exchanging ideas is great. For me, Elsa's personality and attitude really amazed me too. She has a fantastic ass of course too. I prefer natural tits but her MMs were great MMs, really suited her. Her face is really GND cute. It's just my opinion, but there are a few kgirls who have an even better face. But maybe not that personality to match. If one of those kgirls shows up, I will gather reviews into a post. But out of caution maybe wait a day or two.
[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;7113301]First, I go for the looks. My ideal is 18 yo skinny, no tits, big ass with beautiful face..If they talk dirty that's a bonus.[/QUOTE]One type I like is young, skinny, nice face. Tits or ass don't matter I like the variety, though a nice ass shape is a big bonus. I prefer natural bodies but a few girls have gotten a Brazilian butt lift and they look great when done in moderation. There are a few special girls talk dirty in multiple languages, getting really into it, touching themselves. When it's the younger ones, it can be pretty real. You can see this from experience or when you repeat. When you do the right things they love it and when you don't then no reaction.
[QUOTE=PinWheel97;7113328]But also she doesn't write back anymore.[/QUOTE]Best to think that she "is on a break". We had our turn and it was nice. We got the bigger menu, take the win.
One guy in his 40's said one day "It's all fake". I said to him, "Once you know it's fake, that's when you can enjoy what's real" I go for HYA and they tend to be real reaction and their bodies feel great. Some have good sex drives, and if you like pleasing attractive young women you really don't care they're less experienced. You just need cooperation and effort, the willingness to try something new. In some ways it's a plus. Seeing and hearing their reactions, trying things spontaneously with them, that's real. One girl I visited on a second time, by my request we started by laying in bed looking at each other, stroking each other. I just wanted to share a moment with her since we had a special connection last time. Then suddenly we locked eyes, and we were passionately kissing then and there. I didn't realize it would happen, we did it at the same time. With this girl, the sex gets better each visit. It's not like she's holding back, we just resume where we left off and she's still learning.
Two kgirls this year showed me the speed bump doggy position, where you put a pillow under their belly and they can rest on it leaning forward, this puts her in-between normal doggy and fully prone. They suddenly tried it with me, and then I tried it with some other HYAs. A few even better positions I showed some HYA and they were blown away by how it feels. Fully prone from behind is a good example, but takes some trust so you don't push too hard suddenly and surprise or hurt the girl. It really blew my mind that one girl started new, but was so sex positive that over the course of weeks she ended up teaching me what she learned. This is the stuff of magic. I saw her 11 times in 5 weeks which is not normal for me.
From my experience, I try to read the tea leaves ahead of time and leave women on read. I left Elsa on read a long time. I know where expectations leads from past frustrations. But if she comes back to the USA, that's when we enter their predator range again. What some call aggro radius.
[B]New NYC Kgirl Thread[/B]
Following DMV AJ's example, I've created a new NYC kgirl thread. We already have a new contributor, with perfect photos even. The new intel is titled "Kora a good piece of fuck meat"
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37254-Korean-Agency-and-Independent&p=7113876&viewfull=1#post7113876[/URL]