"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=BillCullen;2226821]A little confused by the free thing? I just signed up and it seems I've got to pay to contact anyone?[/QUOTE]Are we all talking about [URL]SugarDaddyToday.com[/URL]?

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2225549]Whenever I see an SB story in the news that I haven't already seen posted elsewhere, I feel obligated to share....

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As I watched it, I see a twinkle in Lisa Ling's eye (reporter). I'm not sure if that's because she's already got a site profile or is just thinking about setting one up.

[/QUOTE]Well I guess this answered my question above and confirmed the twinkle in her eye. Lisa Ling now admits she was once an SB. LOL.

And of course she needed to go to the Seeking Arrangement party for. You guessed it -- research.

[URL]http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/living/lisa-ling-sugar-baby-essay/index.html?hpt=hp_c2[/URL]

The girls are everywhere and more willing then ever! But I need some advise brothers. .

Too many choices in all honesty, but I am truly misguided at judging what some of, if not most of these girls want sexually. Do they truly all want rough dominate sex? Is that why the average girl is truly on the SD websites? Cause almost all the girls I've met want to be taken with authority and treated very aggressively in the bedroom, no matter how meek they seem when you communicate and meet them.

I went outside my normal range of girl I typically go for. I emailed several new prospects and had most all them on the hook, but went with a 21 year old girl from the middle East. She had olive skin, 5'2" very petite and very pretty. I've never been with this type of girl, but figured why not. She was a true college baby, living on campus and attending school fulltime.

We emailed and texted for two days, all signs pointed towards a reserved, shy and laid back potential baby. Nothing about sex, etc, but casual mentions of going to the FC. She gave off signs about being scared, nervous, but excited, etc. Etc. The day of our date and M&G my time became more limited and she agreed reluctantly to meet at the room and we would have drinks, chat etc. But she was admittedly nervous about that.

In the room comes this beautiful, conservatively dressed, little makeup, very petite little spinner of a 21 year old woman. Very well spoken, educated and knowledgeable beyond her years. A true classic and classy young lady. She reveals after about ten minutes of conversation and a few beers that she is quite comfortable with me and knows and can tell I'm a nice guy. About fifteen minutes later, I lean in for a kiss that turned fairly passionate. She asks if I want to cuddle on the bed and we move to the bed. Long story short, we had what I called some very passionate sex, more on the sensual side. She came about three times and after a long session of me DATY and fingering her Gspot pretty intensely she is crying out, "fuck me, fuck me and she is literally almost in tears from cumming. Very nice! So we fuck and it was fairly intense, she cums a few more times. Then she kinda freaks out and tells me, "don't cum in me, we did not use a condom, I want to suck you off and make you cum in my mouth. " Fine we with and she proceeds to give me an amazing BBBJ until I explode in her mouth.

We rest for about ten minutes and then I'm back DATY on her, another big O for her and more fucking. I do not cum the second time. We cuddle for a bit, make pillow talk, hug, kiss, give each other compliments and agree this is a good thing and we will see each other.

So after she leaves, we call up each other and discuss more about what we just did and she invites me to express what I like sexually. (well that what we just did was pretty fucking good in my book I'm thinking) So I tell her a few things and invite her to do the same. AND HERE AND THERE IT IS AGAIN! I'm thinking we just had really great sex and she proceeds to tell me how she likes it rough. Very rough, to be pinned down, fucked really hard, cum shot on her face and face fucked, fingers in her ass, and how she can squirt and cum 15-20 times per session. NEVER saw it coming from this one.

So after all that, should I know just fucking assume, no matter how passive and laid back any of these girls are, they all want it rough? Is that why many are looking for a SD? Cause this is like the fourth girl who came across as someone who could never be into that type of sex, who is!

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2227177]Well I guess this answered my question above and confirmed the twinkle in her eye. Lisa Ling now admits she was once an SB. LOL.

And of course she needed to go to the Seeking Arrangement party for. You guessed it -- research.

[URL]http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/living/lisa-ling-sugar-baby-essay/index.html?hpt=hp_c2[/URL][/QUOTE]This feature CNN show is bad news. UTR SDs do not need exposure to our world at large (ie SOs) . What if our suspicious (already) SOs start asking about SA and have we ever done that??

On the up side, new Pot Babies might join the market looking for their share of the action.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2227478]
So after all that, should I know just fucking assume, no matter how passive and laid back any of these girls are, they all want it rough? Is that why many are looking for a SD? Cause this is like the fourth girl who came across as someone who could never be into that type of sex, who is![/QUOTE]Yep, I just re-joined SA last Friday.

Already have 3 pot local to Hampton Roads. And they all like it rough. The beauty is, 2 of the 3 aren't even looking for gifts, they are just looking for a nice hotel room *LOL*.

Don't fight it. Seriously it's a beautiful thing.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2227478]So after all that, should I know just fucking assume, no matter how passive and laid back any of these girls are, they all want it rough? Is that why many are looking for a SD? Cause this is like the fourth girl who came across as someone who could never be into that type of sex, who is![/QUOTE]Never assume, but at least 50% of the time you are good to go on some level. From just taking what you want up to choking and smacking, age playing, tied up and heavy pounding. And lots of dirty talk telling them who they are and their purpose in life. And always make them repeat it back to you verbatim.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2227545]This feature CNN show is bad news. UTR SDs do not need exposure to our world at large (ie SOs) . What if our suspicious (already) SOs start asking about SA and have we ever done that??

On the up side, new Pot Babies might join the market looking for their share of the action.[/QUOTE]I think our SOs already have a lot of exposure to the SB / SD scene. The chick shows they watch bring up SA and similar sites about once every few weeks at least. As far as them asking questions, you just handle it like any other question like "why didn't you answer your phone"? What I do is just answer the question in a way that doesn't encourage further interrogation. For example if my GF asked me if I've ever had a profile on one of those sites I would just say "are you offering to be my SB? How much would you charge me"? That would likely get a laugh out of her and throw her off track at the same time.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2227661]Never assume, but at least 50% of the time you are good to go on some level. From just taking what you want up to choking and smacking, age playing, tied up and heavy pounding. And lots of dirty talk telling them who they are and their purpose in life. And always make them repeat it back to you verbatim.[/QUOTE]I think the major generational difference is the access to porn for any sb less than 30.

This has skewed their view on sexual relations.

I am was somewhat surprised when my first SB wanted me to slap her hard, and wanted to be degraded.

Based on what I am reading here, this seems to be common behavior.

[QUOTE=Rouleur;2225672]We call the Prophet, HollywoodGuy.[/QUOTE]HWG. I don't want to pry into your personal life, but how do you find the time for all your exploits?

How do you keep all the multiple conversations going?

[QUOTE=Latex;2228107]I think the major generational difference is the access to porn for any sb less than 30.

This has skewed their view on sexual relations.

I am was somewhat surprised when my first SB wanted me to slap her hard, and wanted to be degraded.

Based on what I am reading here, this seems to be common behavior.[/QUOTE]I have observed same. Availability of porn has completely changed how women behave in bed. That's not always a bad thing, but it's not always good either.

[QUOTE=Latex;2228116]HWG. I don't want to pry into your personal life, but how do you find the time for all your exploits?

How do you keep all the multiple conversations going?[/QUOTE]I only do 4 basic things everyday, 7 days a week . Work, eat, sleep and socialize.

Work - 8 hours. And I work online so I can check in to the sites or my email without effecting my job performance.

Eat - 2 hours.

Sleep - 7 hours.

That leaves 7 hours a day to network or date. Plenty of time to get the job done, almost. I am single and every girl knows I date a lot, so I don't really have to waste time covering my tracks.

It struck me as the reporter connecting her 'dating" was not an SD / SB experience. . or, maybe she did not reveal she was accepting some financial help. She was enjoying a lifestyle of a guy she was dating. Happens all the time. I mean all SD's have yachts and stuff. Right. LOL.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2227545]This feature CNN show is bad news. UTR SDs do not need exposure to our world at large (ie SOs) . What if our suspicious (already) SOs start asking about SA and have we ever done that??

On the up side, new Pot Babies might join the market looking for their share of the action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;2228313]It struck me as the reporter connecting her 'dating" was not an SD / SB experience. . or, maybe she did not reveal she was accepting some financial help. She was enjoying a lifestyle of a guy she was dating. Happens all the time. I mean all SD's have yachts and stuff. Right. LOL.[/QUOTE]"Enjoying a lifestyle" is accepting things you wouldn't otherwise have. Cash, caviar, wisdom about life, industry connections, etc.. it really doesn't matter. If you are with someone solely for the purpose of extracting valuables from them (whether those valuables are tangible or intangible) rather than genuine feelings it is still prostitution. Now there is a big difference between what she admitted to (true SB behavior with a single guy) and a pay-per-session UTR girl. Within the realm of prostitution (and using people for personal gain) there is a very wide moral spectrum.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2228118]I have observed same. Availability of porn has completely changed how women behave in bed. That's not always a bad thing, but it's not always good either.[/QUOTE]My newest 21 year old sugar baby is blowing my mind and the next on my list I've been texting has even more. Both look like they just stepped out of "hot nun school" conservatively dressed, wear glasses, meek, mild mannered. Both want me to tie them up, fulfill a light rape fantasy, gag them, fuck their face and force cum down their throats. I am not joking about this. It's is blowing my mind what these girls are into and want these days. They are outright actively looking for it. One after another.

So I've began asking them, how, or what happened to make them want sex this way. Both described meeting someone into dominate sex and that they tested their limits, taking total control and something just switched on inside them.

I have truly awoken to the twilight zone. It's like I'm entirely having to relearn how to have sex with women of this age group and honestly, I'm not entirely sure I like it. Are these girls just fucked up, or is this truly the way women have always been wired inside and I just missed the entire ship?

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2228506]
So I've began asking them, how, or what happened to make them want sex this way. Both described meeting someone into dominate sex and that they tested their limits, taking total control and something just switched on inside them.

I have truly awoken to the twilight zone. It's like I'm entirely having to relearn how to have sex with women of this age group and honestly, I'm not entirely sure I like it. Are these girls just fucked up, or is this truly the way women have always been wired inside and I just missed the entire ship?[/QUOTE]"50 Shades of Gray" phenomenon coupled with porn access. Hollywood is the resident expert. Re: Porn, the highest quality models are off of this site I*m*g*you*are / are / triple x. After the last slash replace xxx with full Bush, girls, legal teens, etc and mountains of pics and movies will come up . You will never log off. So the girls see all this happening with guys built like a Kielbasa magnum.

The problem I see is that people are losing perspective about "making love" to the point where plain vanilla fucking is just too boring, and 40 yr old women are unacceptable when competing against 20 yr old Babes with 19 " waists and 32 D Chests. There is no wife or GF who can compare to half the SBs I have had the pleasure to fuck ,either in the build department or skills .