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Undercover SAPD
[QUOTE=Hargow20;2565301]There is a good chance LE will conduct stings. This is fairly typical after LE has cracked down.[/QUOTE]Speaking of which, anyone heard of undercover SAPD being used lately?
Here's report from 2013 on [URL]newssantaana.com[/URL].
"At approximately 4:45 am On Aug. 14,2013, * drove up to a woman, whom he believed to be a prostitute, on 600 South Harbor Boulevard in Santa Ana. * engaged in a brief conversation with the woman before she got into his car. An undercover SAPD witnessed the interaction and arrested the defendant for loitering with intent to commit prostitution. ".
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Friday recovery
[QUOTE=BlazedOut;2565054]Was there Wednesday and LE everywhere not many girls. Was there today Friday around 11:00 pm and you can tell LE is cracking down there making it known its basically dead. It looks like its going to be like that for a while cause the neighbors where out in full force too.[/QUOTE]Friday night, it seems to have come back a bit. Not the most girls you've ever seen but enough. Wonder if the john's were scared away, at least on Hazard. Our girl Ashley and friends didn't have many takers based on my drivebys.
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Friday
[QUOTE=BobJohnSmiff;2565601]Friday night, it seems to have come back a bit. Not the most girls you've ever seen but enough. Wonder if the john's were scared away, at least on Hazard. Our girl Ashley and friends didn't have many takers based on my drivebys.[/QUOTE]Around what time I've been looking for Ashley? When I was there on Hazard Two LE where right in front of the taco spot.
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[QUOTE=BlazedOut;2565967]Around what time I've been looking for Ashley? When I was there on Hazard Two LE where right in front of the taco spot.[/QUOTE]I'd say 1 am is a good time to start looking. The sista's are out early (got to work harder, I guess) but it seems like a lot WSW on Hazard start only after midnight.
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Santa Ana LE has and does use UC vice. Santa Ana has a reputation for being very aggressive about prostitution. This one article states that the the actually went forward with a jury trial on a loitering charge. Now this is very unusual especially if you are a guy and it is your first offense. The good thing is that is easy to beat the charge. If you stop for a SW simply offer her a ride and ask her get in. There is case law that allow you to a girl a ride regardless if she is a SW or not. By simply telling the officer that they cannot do anything unless the girl rats you out. Just remember that LE can crack down at any time. This is why it is very important to keep you guard up and be observant.
(http://newsantaana.com/2014/07/02/eleven-men-convicted-on-prostitution-related-charges/ )
[QUOTE=BobJohnSmiff;2565594]Speaking of which, anyone heard of undercover SAPD being used lately?
Here's report from 2013 on [URL]newssantaana.com[/URL].
"At approximately 4:45 am On Aug. 14,2013, * drove up to a woman, whom he believed to be a prostitute, on 600 South Harbor Boulevard in Santa Ana. * engaged in a brief conversation with the woman before she got into his car. An undercover SAPD witnessed the interaction and arrested the defendant for loitering with intent to commit prostitution. ".[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hargow20;2566871]Santa Ana LE has and does use UC vice. Santa Ana has a reputation for being very aggressive about prostitution. This one article states that the the actually went forward with a jury trial on a loitering charge. Now this is very unusual especially if you are a guy and it is your first offense. The good thing is that is easy to beat the charge. If you stop for a SW simply offer her a ride and ask her get in. There is case law that allow you to a girl a ride regardless if she is a SW or not. By simply telling the officer that they cannot do anything unless the girl rats you out. Just remember that LE can crack down at any time. This is why it is very important to keep you guard up and be observant.
(http://newsantaana.com/2014/07/02/eleven-men-convicted-on-prostitution-related-charges/ )[/QUOTE]One girl I talked to said that the UCers are waiting until she has a cock in her mouth before busting her.
I assume that would be more difficult to beat in court.
I take things that streetwalkers tell me with a grain of salt. . or two.
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[QUOTE=Hargow20;2566871]Santa Ana LE has and does use UC vice. Santa Ana has a reputation for being very aggressive about prostitution. This one article states that the the actually went forward with a jury trial on a loitering charge. Now this is very unusual especially if you are a guy and it is your first offense. The good thing is that is easy to beat the charge. If you stop for a SW simply offer her a ride and ask her get in. There is case law that allow you to a girl a ride regardless if she is a SW or not. By simply telling the officer that they cannot do anything unless the girl rats you out. Just remember that LE can crack down at any time. This is why it is very important to keep you guard up and be observant.
(http://newsantaana.com/2014/07/02/eleven-men-convicted-on-prostitution-related-charges/ )[/QUOTE]The UC observer thing is something I haven't heard of. The last sting I can recall was some busts going on at Budget. Fake hookers soliciting johns to go to a room and then they were arrested. It does seem ripe for a crackdown. So many girls right now, it's crazy. Crazy good. LOL.
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I have heard of stories like this before. Seems doubtful, but It may be true. My guess is that they get away with this because most girls will not ask for jury trial. But even then I am sure their actions would cause the prosecutor to lose the case.
[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;2566882]One girl I talked to said that the UCers are waiting until she has a cock in her mouth before busting her.
I assume that would be more difficult to beat in court.
I take things that streetwalkers tell me with a grain of salt. . or two.[/QUOTE]
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Ashley
After the watching the fight on Sat night, I decided to hit the Harbor / Hazzard area. Was only planning on some recon. The tales of civilians with tables and notepads really intrigued me. Plus it was late and it's been a while since I have had late night time.
Going down Harbor and I see cars filing into 11th and Washington. That's a good sign, so I turn left onto Washington. Make a right onto Bewley and there were 3 BSW hanging out between some cars. The normal kind and nothing really to turn the head. There was on little chubby WSW that kind of grabbed my attention. What the hell, make another pass and I didn't see any people sitting with notepads. In fact, I saw no LE anywhere. This was about 130 am. Make another pass and see her again, but I decided to see what the other side of the street was holding.
Shoot over and I see two WSWs, one blonde and an brunette. Lots of cars, but no one is stopping. What the hell, I'm here and the blonde gave me that funny little feeling. I pull along side them, but not enough to obstruct any traffic. Through the window the blonde says what do I want? This is going to be a window deal. She quotes me for her $ FS and. 7 BJ, but her friend would do a BJ. 6. You could tell the other girl was completely green, but I wanted her. She jumps in and I follow where she tells me to go. I ask her name, "Ashley". I think to myself, why does that sound familiar?? A real petite cutie. I ask how the night has been going and confirms that there are a lot of window shoppers. She directs me to a nice quiet side street, I park. She gets on her knees on the passenger seat and her ass is up in the air. It was a lovely ass on top of that. She starts going doing down like there was no tomorrow. Amazing. I pulled up her skirt and start grabbing the hell out of her ass. I'm thinking I should has done the FS, but my car has no room in the back. I'm holding out as much as possible, but she tells me she has to get going soon. No problem.
I finish and the light comes on. "OH! Your the famous Ashley I have been reading about! She says yes and we high five each other. I did tell her I was going to write about her, she thanks me and goes off into the night. On the way out, there were still cars and girls out and about. Not one LE. The night finished around 230 am.
I did see her friend and if the same scenario happens, I will get both girls.
I do have a question for the fellow Hobbyists, are there any decent No Tells in that area? I have visited the ones on Fig and on LBB, but never there.
Stay safe.
P.
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You should have asked the SW to get in your car before negotiating. With neighborhood watch and the recent crackdown it is very risky to negotiate through the window. You just never know if she was a decoy or not. The other thing to remember is that speaking to her through the window you increase the your risk of being spotted by LE. I would also add that $60 is to much for a BJ. Hopefully you got at least got a BBJ.
[QUOTE=Pudgy68;2567544]After the watching the fight on Sat night, I decided to hit the Harbor / Hazzard area. Was only planning on some recon. The tales of civilians with tables and notepads really intrigued me. Plus it was late and it's been a while since I have had late night time.
Going down Harbor and I see cars filing into 11th and Washington. That's a good sign, so I turn left onto Washington. Make a right onto Bewley and there were 3 BSW hanging out between some cars. The normal kind and nothing really to turn the head. There was on little chubby WSW that kind of grabbed my attention. What the hell, make another pass and I didn't see any people sitting with notepads. In fact, I saw no LE anywhere. This was about 130 am. Make another pass and see her again, but I decided to see what the other side of the street was holding.
Shoot over and I see two WSWs, one blonde and an brunette. Lots of cars, but no one is stopping. What the hell, I'm here and the blonde gave me that funny little feeling. I pull along side them, but not enough to obstruct any traffic. Through the window the blonde says what do I want? This is going to be a window deal. She quotes me for her $ FS and. 7 BJ, but her friend would do a BJ. 6. You could tell the other girl was completely green, but I wanted her. She jumps in and I follow where she tells me to go. I ask her name, "Ashley". I think to myself, why does that sound familiar?? A real petite cutie. I ask how the night has been going and confirms that there are a lot of window shoppers. She directs me to a nice quiet side street, I park. She gets on her knees on the passenger seat and her ass is up in the air. It was a lovely ass on top of that. She starts going doing down like there was no tomorrow. Amazing. I pulled up her skirt and start grabbing the hell out of her ass. I'm thinking I should has done the FS, but my car has no room in the back. I'm holding out as much as possible, but she tells me she has to get going soon. No problem.
I finish and the light comes on. "OH! Your the famous Ashley I have been reading about! She says yes and we high five each other. I did tell her I was going to write about her, she thanks me and goes off into the night. On the way out, there were still cars and girls out and about. Not one LE. The night finished around 230 am.
I did see her friend and if the same scenario happens, I will get both girls.
I do have a question for the fellow Hobbyists, are there any decent No Tells in that area? I have visited the ones on Fig and on LBB, but never there.
Stay safe.
P.[/QUOTE]
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You can never be certain when LE will conduct a sting or crackdown. In many cases LE will conduct a sting when things are slow. I have seen where there has been few if any SW's for months and LE will conduct a sting. This is why it is very important to always keep vigilant.
[QUOTE=BobJohnSmiff;2567023]The UC observer thing is something I haven't heard of. The last sting I can recall was some busts going on at Budget. Fake hookers soliciting johns to go to a room and then they were arrested. It does seem ripe for a crackdown. So many girls right now, it's crazy. Crazy good. LOL.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hargow20;2567581]You can never be certain when LE will conduct a sting or crackdown. In many cases LE will conduct a sting when things are slow. I have seen where there has been few if any SW's for months and LE will conduct a sting. This is why it is very important to always keep vigilant.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. Maybe it's time to stick to incalls at a SA notel.
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Notels
[QUOTE=Pudgy68;2567544]After the watching the fight on Sat night, I decided to hit the Harbor / Hazzard area. Was only planning on some recon. The tales of civilians with tables and notepads really intrigued me. Plus it was late and it's been a while since I have had late night time.
Going down Harbor and I see cars filing into 11th and Washington. That's a good sign, so I turn left onto Washington. Make a right onto Bewley and there were 3 BSW hanging out between some cars. The normal kind and nothing really to turn the head. There was on little chubby WSW that kind of grabbed my attention. What the hell, make another pass and I didn't see any people sitting with notepads. In fact, I saw no LE anywhere. This was about 130 am. Make another pass and see her again, but I decided to see what the other side of the street was holding.
Shoot over and I see two WSWs, one blonde and an brunette. Lots of cars, but no one is stopping. What the hell, I'm here and the blonde gave me that funny little feeling. I pull along side them, but not enough to obstruct any traffic. Through the window the blonde says what do I want? This is going to be a window deal. She quotes me for her $ FS and. 7 BJ, but her friend would do a BJ. 6. You could tell the other girl was completely green, but I wanted her. She jumps in and I follow where she tells me to go. I ask her name, "Ashley". I think to myself, why does that sound familiar?? A real petite cutie. I ask how the night has been going and confirms that there are a lot of window shoppers. She directs me to a nice quiet side street, I park. She gets on her knees on the passenger seat and her ass is up in the air. It was a lovely ass on top of that. She starts going doing down like there was no tomorrow. Amazing. I pulled up her skirt and start grabbing the hell out of her ass. I'm thinking I should has done the FS, but my car has no room in the back. I'm holding out as much as possible, but she tells me she has to get going soon. No problem.
I finish and the light comes on. "OH! Your the famous Ashley I have been reading about! She says yes and we high five each other. I did tell her I was going to write about her, she thanks me and goes off into the night. On the way out, there were still cars and girls out and about. Not one LE. The night finished around 230 am.
I did see her friend and if the same scenario happens, I will get both girls.
I do have a question for the fellow Hobbyists, are there any decent No Tells in that area? I have visited the ones on Fig and on LBB, but never there.
Stay safe.
P.[/QUOTE]They are all over Harbor. Trouble is getting a room besides Budget. That's your best shot most of the time since it's much, much bigger than the others.
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[QUOTE=Pudgy68;2567544]After the watching the fight on Sat night, I decided to hit the Harbor / Hazzard area. Was only planning on some recon. The tales of civilians with tables and notepads really intrigued me. Plus it was late and it's been a while since I have had late night time.
Going down Harbor and I see cars filing into 11th and Washington. That's a good sign, so I turn left onto Washington. Make a right onto Bewley and there were 3 BSW hanging out between some cars. The normal kind and nothing really to turn the head. There was on little chubby WSW that kind of grabbed my attention. What the hell, make another pass and I didn't see any people sitting with notepads. In fact, I saw no LE anywhere. This was about 130 am. Make another pass and see her again, but I decided to see what the other side of the street was holding.
Shoot over and I see two WSWs, one blonde and an brunette. Lots of cars, but no one is stopping. What the hell, I'm here and the blonde gave me that funny little feeling. I pull along side them, but not enough to obstruct any traffic. Through the window the blonde says what do I want? This is going to be a window deal. She quotes me for her $ FS and. 7 BJ, but her friend would do a BJ. 6. You could tell the other girl was completely green, but I wanted her. She jumps in and I follow where she tells me to go. I ask her name, "Ashley". I think to myself, why does that sound familiar?? A real petite cutie. I ask how the night has been going and confirms that there are a lot of window shoppers. She directs me to a nice quiet side street, I park. She gets on her knees on the passenger seat and her ass is up in the air. It was a lovely ass on top of that. She starts going doing down like there was no tomorrow. Amazing. I pulled up her skirt and start grabbing the hell out of her ass. I'm thinking I should has done the FS, but my car has no room in the back. I'm holding out as much as possible, but she tells me she has to get going soon. No problem.
I finish and the light comes on. "OH! Your the famous Ashley I have been reading about! She says yes and we high five each other. I did tell her I was going to write about her, she thanks me and goes off into the night. On the way out, there were still cars and girls out and about. Not one LE. The night finished around 230 am.
I did see her friend and if the same scenario happens, I will get both girls.
I do have a question for the fellow Hobbyists, are there any decent No Tells in that area? I have visited the ones on Fig and on LBB, but never there.
Stay safe.
P.[/QUOTE]Doesn't sound like a very good experience IMHO:
She jumps in and I follow where she tells me to go. Strike 1.
But she tells me she has to get going soon. - strike 2.
$60 for a rushed BJ and attitude? -- strike 3.
For me, she is out of there. Too many other girls offering good full service for that price. . again IMHO.
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The main thing is to stick to the 22 rules and be aware of your surroundings. Sometimes if am I unsure what LE is up too. I will park somewhere and observe for awhile. The main thing is always drive a good distance from where you pick up the SW. These days I drive a minimum of 10 blocks or 1 mile or more.
[QUOTE=BobJohnSmiff;2567945]Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. Maybe it's time to stick to incalls at a SA notel.[/QUOTE]