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[QUOTE=SunSin1;2754291]Unless you want the "pretty young boy" as advertised on another of their listings.
[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/men4men/34527614[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL. Maybe there's a market for "pretty old boy" massage. Let's get some venture capital going and open up in the rich be-th part of town.
Anyone been to Hot Stones on Chamblee-Tucker lately?
[QUOTE=JWSouth;2754003]What crap. Added to blacklist.
Sooo. Where is Q?[/QUOTE]It's in Smyrna.
[QUOTE=MassageAwesome;2753857]DON't GO HERE!! I just left. The 40 is the half hour special. Greeted by mamasan, quoted me for 60. I showed her the BP ad and she told me that's only for 30 min. She then took me in a room and told me the girl will be here shortly. She asked if I wanted a shower and I said yes. Then while I'm naked laying down she tells me that the shower is part of the 30 minutes while I'm already being showered. During the shower she kept asking me if I wanted more time, and I kept saying no. She then said that 30 minutes is not much time. I told her that I know. Afterwards she places me in sauna room for a few minutes. It has been a long time since I've been in a sauna room. It was very relaxing.Then after a few more the door opens and I see a thin looking Asian woman wearing a tight blue dress. She takes me to room and starts massage. The massage was pretty good.....but rushed. She did a full body back massage from head to toe. The whole time I'm thinking "when is she going to flip me over?" SHE DOESN'T!! She gets warm towel, dries me off and says time is up. She left and came back a minute later. I asked if I could extend my time and I'd pay more and she said "No! No more time. " I get dressed and leave. Well as I go to the front, mama stopped me and waited for another guy to get out of his car. Anyways, I left her no tip because I was angry that I got nothing. I will admit that Kim (the woman who massaged me) was sexy for an older woman. Nice tits but looked like she had a flat ass. However I left no tip because I was rushed. I was not in there for half an hour. I was in there for 20 minutes tops. I knew if I did an hour that I will be there for probably the same time since it was a spa. Plus the place was way out from where I live at about a 30 to 35 minute drive in heavy lunch hour traffic. So I definitely will not be back at that place because of the distance but again Kim was cute. I guess it's back to Q massage for me.[/QUOTE]Now, I know you're probably not a newbie to the hobby but your post notes several newbie mistakes. Consider the following:
1. The table shower is always part of the session time and will be deducted accordingly.
2. Sauna? That will also deduct further time from your precious 30 minutes.
3. Since you soon discovered that you would have less than 30 minutes for the massage and extras, why didn't you manage that time? I always keep my watch on if there is no clock within sight. It's your coin and your time, so you need to manage it. I would flip over when I want, smile, point to junior and tell her to get busy.
4. Left no tip? No problem. Tips are not necessary at KAMPs because you pay for extras in full as they are given (or after the fact if they trust you). Even if you were there for a legit massage and nothing more, there is no need to tip at a KAMP. Koreans don't expect tips; Chinese do.
5. If you knew what you wanted going in, you should have made that clear by laying appropriate coin on the table in the massage room prior to getting undressed and making it clear what you wanted. If the woman then tells you that your donation is a little short, you can either walk or offer a little more. If still not to your liking, grab your donation and leave. No harm, no foul.
Lastly, if you decide to leave and the woman dogs you out for not staying, stand in her face and tell her to fuck off. Poor customer service deserves an equally poor response.
Damn, I need to open a mongering school.
[QUOTE=RedPanda;2753780]Sup peeps! Its pretty cool that I've been doing this AMP game for a few years now and while googling a new area to venture out, I found this forum. What!? This is the sh& But anyways, will try Jessi. And for the Seniors out here, hit me up. Need to start working on my draft picks. Happy Hunting.
RP.[/QUOTE]If you expect a slew of senior members to hit you up and deluge you with exciting intel, dream on. Asking for intel immediately without providing a few quality posts and intel gives off a serious bacon sensation.
[QUOTE=SunSin1;2754291]Unless you want the "pretty young boy" as advertised on another of their listings.
[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/men4men/34527614[/URL][/QUOTE]If that ad doesn't gag a mule, nothing will.
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[QUOTE=Jaguar57;2754303]No, she's a smoking hot little number. Very fit looking, slim, perky tits and a nice ass. Not a bubble, but that's not my style anyway. Very pretty face. She looked familiar, but not from an AMP. I'd date this girl![/QUOTE]Really? I feel a little silly since several fellow mongers haven't seen her there in the last week. On vacation?
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2754345]If you expect a slew of senior members to hit you up and deluge you with exciting intel, dream on. Asking for intel immediately without providing a few quality posts and intel gives off a serious bacon sensation.[/QUOTE]I can definitely see your point of view, but no worries my friend. I eat and sh& bacon out my.
Jesse wasn't the best looking gal from the tri-state, but provided with a nice relaxing massage with a smile.
RP.
Has anyone ever gotten lucky with Lynn? I've slowly visited her a while back and it was nothing but legit. Not even a hint of teasing. That lady is gorgeous, I can only imagine.
I just been eating the same ice cream time after time, taste buds starting to wear out.
[QUOTE=MassageAwesome;2753857]DON't GO HERE!! I just left. The 40 is the half hour special. Greeted by mamasan, quoted me for 60. I showed her the BP ad and she told me that's only for 30 min. She then took me in a room and told me the girl will be here shortly. She asked if I wanted a shower and I said yes. Then while I'm naked laying down she tells me that the shower is part of the 30 minutes while I'm already being showered. During the shower she kept asking me if I wanted more time, and I kept saying no. She then said that 30 minutes is not much time. I told her that I know. Afterwards she places me in sauna room for a few minutes. It has been a long time since I've been in a sauna room. It was very relaxing.Then after a few more the door opens and I see a thin looking Asian woman wearing a tight blue dress. She takes me to room and starts massage. The massage was pretty good.....but rushed. She did a full body back massage from head to toe. The whole time I'm thinking "when is she going to flip me over?" SHE DOESN'T!! She gets warm towel, dries me off and says time is up. She left and came back a minute later. I asked if I could extend my time and I'd pay more and she said "No! No more time. " I get dressed and leave. Well as I go to the front, mama stopped me and waited for another guy to get out of his car. Anyways, I left her no tip because I was angry that I got nothing. I will admit that Kim (the woman who massaged me) was sexy for an older woman. Nice tits but looked like she had a flat ass. However I left no tip because I was rushed. I was not in there for half an hour. I was in there for 20 minutes tops. I knew if I did an hour that I will be there for probably the same time since it was a spa. Plus the place was way out from where I live at about a 30 to 35 minute drive in heavy lunch hour traffic. So I definitely will not be back at that place because of the distance but again Kim was cute. I guess it's back to Q massage for me.[/QUOTE]Many years ago I use to head down in Dekalb and had some beautiful looking K ladies. But I've always been stressed out about my car being vandalized, getting robbed inside or even worst. Have a mugshot on the local media. Chances are much higher getting into trouble being in those KAMPS then being in your cookie cutter AMPs. But each likes to play on different playgrounds. My goal is to try to find a nail salon who offers more than man & ped.
RP.
[QUOTE=JackSouth;2731876]What name does she use at Mei Mei?[/QUOTE]They seems have many younger girls there, all younger than coco.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2754338]Now, I know you're probably not a newbie to the hobby but your post notes several newbie mistakes. Consider the following:
1. The table shower is always part of the session time and will be deducted accordingly.
2. Sauna? That will also deduct further time from your precious 30 minutes.
3. Since you soon discovered that you would have less than 30 minutes for the massage and extras, why didn't you manage that time? I always keep my watch on if there is no clock within sight. It's your coin and your time, so you need to manage it. I would flip over when I want, smile, point to junior and tell her to get busy.
4. Left no tip? No problem. Tips are not necessary at KAMPs because you pay for extras in full as they are given (or after the fact if they trust you). Even if you were there for a legit massage and nothing more, there is no need to tip at a KAMP. Koreans don't expect tips; Chinese do.
5. If you knew what you wanted going in, you should have made that clear by laying appropriate coin on the table in the massage room prior to getting undressed and making it clear what you wanted. If the woman then tells you that your donation is a little short, you can either walk or offer a little more. If still not to your liking, grab your donation and leave. No harm, no foul.
Lastly, if you decide to leave and the woman dogs you out for not staying, stand in her face and tell her to fuck off. Poor customer service deserves an equally poor response.
Damn, I need to open a mongering school.[/QUOTE]LOL yea even as a seasoned monger I still make mistakes. The thing is that I rarely do spas. If I do I always go to Rainbow Spa. I'm in and out of there within 20 minutes (all I get and want is a nude HJ) and they only charge for a full hour. I figured it's the same for a 30 minute spa. I'm sure it is, but I guess you got to tell her what you want. It honestly seemed as though both mamasan and Kim were mad that I did only 30 min and angered them more when I rejected them for more time. Oh well, live and learn. If this place was closer I may return, but I can hit Therapy Plus if I want the "spa treatment".
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2754534]Really? I feel a little silly since several fellow mongers haven't seen her there in the last week. On vacation?[/QUOTE]I haven't heard this place on the forum for a long time. Last time I went had Sophia, older and a little chunky, but not big tits. It's on Liddel across from Home Depot.
[QUOTE=Jaguar57;2754899]I haven't heard this place on the forum for a long time. Last time I went had Sophia, older and a little chunky, but not big tits. It's on Liddel across from Home Depot.[/QUOTE]Yes, on Liddell.
[QUOTE=SunSin1;2754291]Unless you want the "pretty young boy" as advertised on another of their listings.
[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/men4men/34527614[/URL][/QUOTE]Wave off wave off! Clearly I need to pay more attention to the "other ads by this user" feature on BP LOL.
LU Massage- I think they often have only one provider who is very busy. Last two times I stopped there, I would have had to have waited or come back later.
CC Massage- Stopped by last week. The provider was Lee Dee (phonetic spelling) who did everything right but had no personality whatsoever. Perhaps she doesn't find her work fulfilling!
Lily Massage (Woodstock) - Dropped in yesterday and received massage from Amy who has very limited English skills. She is probably a 5 in looks but the massage was really good and it was fun trying to communicate with her. At the very end, she gave me a great foot massage and I dozed off at least twice. I fear that I snored!
[QUOTE=Wizard22;2755087]LU Massage- I think they often have only one provider who is very busy. Last two times I stopped there, I would have had to have waited or come back later.
CC Massage- Stopped by last week. The provider was Lee Dee (phonetic spelling) who did everything right but had no personality whatsoever. Perhaps she doesn't find her work fulfilling!
Lily Massage (Woodstock) - Dropped in yesterday and received massage from Amy who has very limited English skills. She is probably a 5 in looks but the massage was really good and it was fun trying to communicate with her. At the very end, she gave me a great foot massage and I dozed off at least twice. I fear that I snored![/QUOTE]Foot massage or footjob?
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2755160]Foot massage or footjob?[/QUOTE]Was at Lu yesterday. Two girls, Jessica and Mimi. Angela in China for two months.
Funny experience here:
[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-open-yuyu-massage-must-see-770-485-4273/26377838[/URL]
Hadn't been to an AMP in several years. Wanted mainly a massage, but thinking back to my younger days frequenting AMPs, I thought maybe I should make a run to the ATM before showing up.
This place has ONLY mamasans. But they were very sweet and costumer friendly. I told them I wanted an hour massage. This late 40's Chinese lady walked me back and gave me a fairly decent massage. She was very sweet and friendly. I wasn't sure what might happen, but I knew something was up when she started rubbing higher and higher up my thighs. It was well beyond the scope of what contact I'd experienced at a legit MP. Eventually she had the towel off and was being quite thorough up and down my backside. I couldn't complain.
Later I flipped over and she did a perfunctory job on my chest and arms whilst grazing my privates. Then without prompting she just incorporated a thorough rub down of my entire pelvic region into the massage. It was incredibly soothing. After about 55 min of massage, eventually she just looked at me, looked and my dick, and nodded "yes? I nodded back and we were off to the HE, prostate massage inclusive without even a moment's hesitation LOL.
Funny thing was that money was NEVER mentioned. I went back out to the front desk afterwards and the mamasans were giggling. I asked how much? "$60 for one hour massage. " They were both grinning. I just left them with $100, smiled, said thanks, and left a relaxed man.
All in all this place comes highly recommended by me if you want a decent massage with HE, no pressure, no upsales, no rushing and have no concerns for the lady being hot (she wasn't). For me it was nice to just chill and enjoy.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2755009]Yes, on Liddell.[/QUOTE]I don't remember if she said she'd only been there a month or a week, but not long to be sure. I didn't ask where she used to work in Roswell.
[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;2755487]Funny experience here:
[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-open-yuyu-massage-must-see-770-485-4273/26377838[/URL]
Hadn't been to an AMP in several years. Wanted mainly a massage, but thinking back to my younger days frequenting AMPs, I thought maybe I should make a run to the ATM before showing up.
This place has ONLY mamasans. But they were very sweet and costumer friendly. I told them I wanted an hour massage. This late 40's Chinese lady walked me back and gave me a fairly decent massage. She was very sweet and friendly. I wasn't sure what might happen, but I knew something was up when she started rubbing higher and higher up my thighs. It was well beyond the scope of what contact I'd experienced at a legit MP. Eventually she had the towel off and was being quite thorough up and down my backside. I couldn't complain.
Later I flipped over and she did a perfunctory job on my chest and arms whilst grazing my privates. Then without prompting she just incorporated a thorough rub down of my entire pelvic region into the massage. It was incredibly soothing. After about 55 min of massage, eventually she just looked at me, looked and my dick, and nodded "yes? I nodded back and we were off to the HE, prostate massage inclusive without even a moment's hesitation LOL.
Funny thing was that money was NEVER mentioned. I went back out to the front desk afterwards and the mamasans were giggling. I asked how much? "$60 for one hour massage. " They were both grinning. I just left them with $100, smiled, said thanks, and left a relaxed man.
All in all this place comes highly recommended by me if you want a decent massage with HE, no pressure, no upsales, no rushing and have no concerns for the lady being hot (she wasn't). For me it was nice to just chill and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Nice first report. Keep them coming!
[QUOTE=Jaguar57;2755636]I don't remember if she said she'd only been there a month or a week, but not long to be sure. I didn't ask where she used to work in Roswell.[/QUOTE]Now I remember, the short, chubby younger woman goes by Ewa (Ee-wah).
Anyone been to Pro lately and seen Yoon-Hee? She's put on some serious weight, now into the slightly chubbo category.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2755720]Anyone been to Pro lately and seen Yoon-Hee? She's put on some serious weight, now into the slightly chubbo category.[/QUOTE]That's a shame! Was this the same one that worked at Sunflower a while back?
She was cute, that was 2014 though.
[QUOTE=SunSin1;2755732]That's a shame! Was this the same one that worked at Sunflower a while back?
She was cute, that was 2014 though.[/QUOTE]Yep, same girl. Still has a nice personality but, if a guy was into her looks, he might not be anymore.
[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;2755487]Funny experience here:
[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-open-yuyu-massage-must-see-770-485-4273/26377838[/URL]
Hadn't been to an AMP in several years. Wanted mainly a massage, but thinking back to my younger days frequenting AMPs, I thought maybe I should make a run to the ATM before showing up.
This place has ONLY mamasans. But they were very sweet and costumer friendly. I told them I wanted an hour massage. This late 40's Chinese lady walked me back and gave me a fairly decent massage. She was very sweet and friendly. I wasn't sure what might happen, but I knew something was up when she started rubbing higher and higher up my thighs. It was well beyond the scope of what contact I'd experienced at a legit MP. Eventually she had the towel off and was being quite thorough up and down my backside. I couldn't complain.
Later I flipped over and she did a perfunctory job on my chest and arms whilst grazing my privates. Then without prompting she just incorporated a thorough rub down of my entire pelvic region into the massage. It was incredibly soothing. After about 55 min of massage, eventually she just looked at me, looked and my dick, and nodded "yes? I nodded back and we were off to the HE, prostate massage inclusive without even a moment's hesitation LOL.
Funny thing was that money was NEVER mentioned. I went back out to the front desk afterwards and the mamasans were giggling. I asked how much? "$60 for one hour massage. " They were both grinning. I just left them with $100, smiled, said thanks, and left a relaxed man.
All in all this place comes highly recommended by me if you want a decent massage with HE, no pressure, no upsales, no rushing and have no concerns for the lady being hot (she wasn't). For me it was nice to just chill and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Are you telling me the girls on the Ad didn't look like that? LOL! Once I went inside one of the AMP and asked the front girl I wanted one of these ladies and she said "she off today. " Yah right, LOL.
But you are right, the best ones are the ones you least expect it. Relax and enjoy.
RP.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2755720]Anyone been to Pro lately and seen Yoon-Hee? She's put on some serious weight, now into the slightly chubbo category.[/QUOTE]Last time I had Youni was in December and she did seem as she was gaining some weight. That's too bad because she is a cutie, especially her sexy Tats. Either two things might be happening, she is either depressed or she is knocked up.
[QUOTE=AsianLover;2750993]I went by last night around 915 pm and the lights were off, door locked and it looked closed. However, the sign says that they are open until 10. I saw Rose / Wendy's white car out there. I assume that there was a lucky monger inside and she locked the door to avoid interruption. Does anyone know if that happens and if that is the best time to go?
I like her, but I hate it that she works alone and has to answer the door, sometimes at inopportune times.
AL.[/QUOTE]The last time I was there after hours, she told me that she's afraid of Uncle LEO after hearing about some colleagues who got busted. So yeah, she's very selective about who she may choose to be a new member of the inner circle. She has told me stories about the behaviors of some of her customers. Likely some of the mongers on this board.
She's a real nice lady, and I agree that the working alone business is worrisome. She's already had at least one break in.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2755716]Now I remember, the short, chubby younger woman goes by Ewa (Ee-wah).[/QUOTE]Nope, no Ewa there, but there was someone napping on the foot massage chairs that she kept talking to while I was headed to door #2. Never got a good look at her, was too focused on the little babe Kina. (:
[QUOTE=Jaguar57;2756040]Nope, no Ewa there, but there was someone napping on the foot massage chairs that she kept talking to while I was headed to door #2. Never got a good look at her, was too focused on the little babe Kina. (:[/QUOTE]Ewa was there the other day with the manager. Manager claimed nobody else works there.
Paid my first visit earlier this week. Appeared to be just two older ladies working, neither anything to look at but friendly. Higher language barrier too. Bit of a shuffle as there was another fella in one of the rooms and there appeared to be some confusion with him. I ended up waiting for 5 minutes once I got shown to my room but nbd. Chose the 1 hr with shower included for half a bill. Would have skipped the shower if I'd know I'd have to shuffle through the main waiting area right past the door wearing nothing but a sheet and a smile. And on top of that the shower is really small, smallest I've ever seen, more like a tub really. I ain't a big guy by any measure and it was small even for me. So my two cents on the shower: skip it at this location.
The massage however was by far the best massage I've had at any AMP in my limited experiences thus far. I asked for strong and hot damn she brought strong. Only time I've ever asked a masseuse to tone it back a few notches. It was no joke fanfuckingtastic. I prefer no oil or lotion so she covered me with a light sheet which was perfect; as you may have picked up from from my other reports, I'm apparently cold-natured. About 10 minutes left on the clock at the flip and all went well. Left quite relaxed.
Total damage was the half bill for the hour plus 4 tip. So 9 out the door for a really really good massage experience.
[QUOTE=MassageAwesome;2753857]DON't GO HERE!! I just left. The 40 is the half hour special. Greeted by mamasan, quoted me for 60. I showed her the BP ad and she told me that's only for 30 min. She then took me in a room and told me the girl will be here shortly. She asked if I wanted a shower and I said yes. Then while I'm naked laying down she tells me that the shower is part of the 30 minutes while I'm already being showered. During the shower she kept asking me if I wanted more time, and I kept saying no. She then said that 30 minutes is not much time. I told her that I know. Afterwards she places me in sauna room for a few minutes. It has been a long time since I've been in a sauna room. It was very relaxing.Then after a few more the door opens and I see a thin looking Asian woman wearing a tight blue dress. She takes me to room and starts massage. The massage was pretty good.....but rushed. She did a full body back massage from head to toe. The whole time I'm thinking "when is she going to flip me over?" SHE DOESN'T!! She gets warm towel, dries me off and says time is up. She left and came back a minute later. I asked if I could extend my time and I'd pay more and she said "No! No more time. " I get dressed and leave. Well as I go to the front, mama stopped me and waited for another guy to get out of his car. Anyways, I left her no tip because I was angry that I got nothing. I will admit that Kim (the woman who massaged me) was sexy for an older woman. Nice tits but looked like she had a flat ass. However I left no tip because I was rushed. I was not in there for half an hour. I was in there for 20 minutes tops. I knew if I did an hour that I will be there for probably the same time since it was a spa. Plus the place was way out from where I live at about a 30 to 35 minute drive in heavy lunch hour traffic. So I definitely will not be back at that place because of the distance but again Kim was cute. I guess it's back to Q massage for me.[/QUOTE]
Tried to go here today. Only one girl working and she was busy. Mamasan tried to get me to stay and was going to do my shower. I passed cause I didn't want Mamasan taking up part of my half hour. Was going to go back in a few minutes but as I made a I turn at the light another monger was pulling in. O well. Guess he got my time slot. Maybe next time.
O, if that was you pulling in then write a damn review about what I missed.
[QUOTE=RedPanda;2755927]Last time I had Youni was in December and she did seem as she was gaining some weight. That's too bad because she is a cutie, especially her sexy Tats. Either two things might be happening, she is either depressed or she is knocked up.[/QUOTE]I teased her about being knocked up but she said she just consumed a lot of food and beer during holiday parties.
[QUOTE=RedPanda;2754610]Many years ago I use to head down in Dekalb and had some beautiful looking K ladies. But I've always been stressed out about my car being vandalized, getting robbed inside or even worst. Have a mugshot on the local media. Chances are much higher getting into trouble being in those KAMPS then being in your cookie cutter AMPs. But each likes to play on different playgrounds. My goal is to try to find a nail salon who offers more than man & ped.
RP.[/QUOTE]You say ones chances are higher of getting busted at a kamp? Why do you say that. I feel comfortable there. They may bust the business but I never hear of men getting included on those bust. Remember to only use cash so there is no trail. I do cash only at camps as well.
I think the high chances of getting busted are when you go to a hotel room. That's what you always see on the news.
Went back to my old place always leave happ saw Lisa great rack and great massage worth seeing her.
[QUOTE=AcWorthDude;2757088]You say ones chances are higher of getting busted at a kamp? Why do you say that. I feel comfortable there. They may bust the business but I never hear of men getting included on those bust. Remember to only use cash so there is no trail. I do cash only at camps as well.
I think the high chances of getting busted are when you go to a hotel room. That's what you always see on the news.[/QUOTE]I think he means getting his car vandalized while at the Piedmont KAMPs while he's inside. When I used to frequent them, derelicts would hang out and it would be very easy for them to target cars parked in those rear lots.
[QUOTE=AcWorthDude;2757088]You say ones chances are higher of getting busted at a kamp? Why do you say that. I feel comfortable there. They may bust the business but I never hear of men getting included on those bust. Remember to only use cash so there is no trail. I do cash only at camps as well.
I think the high chances of getting busted are when you go to a hotel room. That's what you always see on the news.[/QUOTE]Cash only for sure. Heck if I was the owner, I'll have the place using bitcoins. Many years ago in Marietta, there was a LAMP (Latina, teehee) apartment but you would never pay them using cash. One would buy chips from one source and in order for you to get in, you would need to show them your chips. No chips no dips. Those were the good days.
RP.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2757068]I teased her about being knocked up but she said she just consumed a lot of food and beer during holiday parties.[/QUOTE]That might be true, I just saw her in October and she was small. She even hopped on / over me a few times while massaging my back and I remember thinking she was light.