Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4429750]HP, you missed the role reversal thought in its entirety. And you are correct, none of them want to be there. They are trafficked and trapped, living a life that you likely would not choose.[/QUOTE]You don't know that. You don't know that at all. I'm sure it happens, but that's not the case with all the girls, or even a majority of them. I was speaking to one at 9 Spa who said she worked at the nasty you Like Buffet on Oracle and a friend recommended 9 Spa to her, saying she could make a lot more money, so she took it. I've had conversations with other AMP workers where it was clear they were there by choice. Please don't assume just because someone works at an AMP means they're trafficked. That's the stupid kind of thinking that shut down Tui Na, and just generally makes cops harass our hobby when in reality they have far more important things they should be looking after.

[QUOTE=Uncivil;4429855]You don't know that. You don't know that at all. I'm sure it happens, but that's not the case with all the girls, or even a majority of them. I was speaking to one at 9 Spa who said she worked at the nasty you Like Buffet on Oracle and a friend recommended 9 Spa to her, saying she could make a lot more money, so she took it. I've had conversations with other AMP workers where it was clear they were there by choice. Please don't assume just because someone works at an AMP means they're trafficked. That's the stupid kind of thinking that shut down Tui Na, and just generally makes cops harass our hobby when in reality they have far more important things they should be looking after.[/QUOTE]My 2 cents, I don't think I've ever talked with one that wasn't there by choice. Not saying it never happens but when they usually tell me they are saving up to own a business or something, I just imagine it was a way to make quick cash.

[QUOTE=DkPersonal;4430351]My 2 cents, I don't think I've ever talked with one that wasn't there by choice. Not saying it never happens but when they usually tell me they are saving up to own a business or something, I just imagine it was a way to make quick cash.[/QUOTE]I concur. I am not saying that there isn't sex trafficing or that every sex worker is doing it voluntarily. But I will say that I have had several friends (outside of their outside of their official work duties) who were / are sex workers. Some just did it for the money. One was working her way through her BS degree. And one worked her way up to a MS in Sociology and is planning on becoming an official sex surrogate.

Agreed, 100%. As others have said, it happens but if some of them like you and want to do OTC without asking a dime, then I don't think it's a trafficking situation.

[QUOTE=Uncivil;4429855]You don't know that. You don't know that at all. I'm sure it happens, but that's not the case with all the girls, or even a majority of them. I was speaking to one at 9 Spa who said she worked at the nasty you Like Buffet on Oracle and a friend recommended 9 Spa to her, saying she could make a lot more money, so she took it. I've had conversations with other AMP workers where it was clear they were there by choice. Please don't assume just because someone works at an AMP means they're trafficked. That's the stupid kind of thinking that shut down Tui Na, and just generally makes cops harass our hobby when in reality they have far more important things they should be looking after.[/QUOTE]

Are you saying that all of us that visit AMPs are contributing to trafficking of women for sex?

[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4429750]HP, you missed the role reversal thought in its entirety. And you are correct, none of them want to be there. They are trafficked and trapped, living a life that you likely would not choose.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Achmed46;4430619]Are you saying that all of us that visit AMPs are contributing to trafficking of women for sex?[/QUOTE]I am comfortable with any conclusions your extrapolations reveal.

I went to go see Eva. There was a sign on the front of AA massage that said they're closed for the summer, and that they would reopen on 9/23. I was disappointed, but I wanted to see someone, so I drove across town.

My original intention was go to Sun. But, I drove by Fuzu on the way and decided to take a chance there.

My first visit there. I parked in the back. As someone else stated, it's far too isolated. But, I thought that was better than having my vehicle visible from the street.

I drew Lulu. Late 40's, maybe 50's.

The massage part actually wasn't all that bad. She was annoying me greatly by asking "you okay" ever 15 seconds. But, that aside, a pretty good massage.

On the flip, at first we had negotiated. 8 for BBBJ. Then she got totally nude. The rest of her body wasn't much to look at. But, her rack was fucking amazing. If I were to rank every provide I've seen in my life in order of breast quality, Lulu would easily make the top five.

The BBBJ itself wasn't all that great. She wouldn't go very deep. I reached out and touched her pussy, and it was soaked. I asked if she had a condom. She did, and only charged me. 2 more for FS.

The FS was also disappointing. She wouldn't take me deep in that orifice, either. Since this wasn't doing it for me, I got her off of me, removed the cover, and asked her to return to BBBJ. She did, sort of. She cheated with her hands a lot.

So, I doubt I would repeat. As nice as her breasts are, I need more than eye candy. I need to go deep! And, Lulu just wasn't having it.

Drew Mimi can confirm low quality all around. If you draw her recommend walking away. Not worth time or.

Finally got them while they were open. I think someone had said they weren't legit, but I dunno, they seemed pretty legit. Two older women, I guess I got the better looking of the 2 except that's not saying much. Massage was like a 7. 5 out of 10, good enough that it was relaxing but felt like she spent more time on my shoulders and less time on legs. When it came to the flip, not even a graze or tease or anything, oh well, can't win them all. And yes, golf links and harrison.

[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4430677]I am comfortable with any conclusions your extrapolations reveal.[/QUOTE]I recently saw this post. I found it credible.

[URL]https://www.quora.com/Is-there-human-trafficking-that-goes-on-at-massage-places?fbclid=IwAR3h9_YKerQF2Xr55vDR3RE57AChQZP6e6A5WsZVn1q0p4Xkq1lRnY-f-KQ[/URL]

Draw your own conclusions, of course. The information and conclusions of this article are coincident with my observations over many years. In several states.

[QUOTE=Evan8571;4435403] ...I found it credible.

[/QUOTE]Completely lacking credibility, and the author is incredulous:

"Are the masseuses licensed? Usually yes. ".

[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4435504]Completely lacking credibility, and the author is incredulous:

"Are the masseuses licensed? Usually yes. ".[/QUOTE]The author states he based his conclusions on direct interaction with AMP employees.

May I ask what you base your conclusions upon?

Mimi is a No No at Rain. I also had experience with her. Older, skinny, no boobs, no ass. Tip her .4 for HJ, massage was weak, lack of pressure, and she doesn't even know where to push like other girls. On the flip, HJ was weak, touching but she will move away.

Sasha at Az Spa has moved, new girl Cherry, anyone has seen her?

[QUOTE=Ternymph;4435212]Drew Mimi can confirm low quality all around. If you draw her recommend walking away. Not worth time or.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Evan8571;4435403]I recently saw this post. I found it credible.

[URL]https://www.quora.com/Is-there-human-trafficking-that-goes-on-at-massage-places?fbclid=IwAR3h9_YKerQF2Xr55vDR3RE57AChQZP6e6A5WsZVn1q0p4Xkq1lRnY-f-KQ[/URL]

Draw your own conclusions, of course. The information and conclusions of this article are coincident with my observations over many years. In several states.[/QUOTE]Aw heck, here's my two cents. Providers are always moving from place to place. I don't think they're in once place long enough for it to be worth getting licensed. But also because they're traveling so much, they'll need proper I'd to fly, which means at least a green card or passport. Trafficking usually involves a boss holding those essentially for ransome. I don't that's happening in most places.

I tend to agree mongers. I found the author's article spot on, though I agree, many do not have a license. Having dated a few AMP workers I can say that all of this is accurate, especially his income estimates as well as the business ownership and structure. If anything, he is short on the average number of customers in a day. One I know was doing between ten and fourteen a day. That is a lot of money, for sure. What is interesting is that he is right that it is often the employee who wants to offer more than HJ's to make more money, but the house doesn't want the risk.

[QUOTE=Evan8571;4435943]The author states he based his conclusions on direct interaction with AMP employees.

May I ask what you base your conclusions upon?[/QUOTE]