Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Anony;7153972]I haven't been able to stop by the clubs in a bit, but from lurking TUSCL it seems like the new changes with the clubs in the state are you will have to pay a cashier for dances ahead of time and they will have someone counting the songs. Dances are now at a fixed price, so there's no negotiating or 3/$100 type deals.

This was from a report on Rick's and a similar report I saw on Pandoras.

Anyone been to the clubs this past week that can shine some light on rumors and changes?[/QUOTE]I have questions;.

So, how is that "Stripper's bill of rights" working out? Is the government making the clubs a safer place? Do any of the real sex worker want to have a word with the folks who gathered at the capital?

Is this greed? Alcohol sales and the door fee are not enough? Now the club needs to put their hands in the dancer's pockets? (OK purse) Or is this a mandate of the "bill of rights"? To have alcohol in the the club, do they need to have a scarecrow-hall monitor over looking the LDA?

Change is not always good, but change is the only thing you can count on to happen. I am glad I got to live during the "good ole days".

Dancers were lobbying for protection as employees. We had to know the club would have to change how they operate.

I think this idea of someone watching / counting dances is also a means to push more dances to the private rooms where they won't be counting. That room rent is 99% profit.

No wonder so many dancers are offering OTC.

[QUOTE=LSteele;7158089]Dancers were lobbying for protection as employees. We had to know the club would have to change how they operate.

I think this idea of someone watching / counting dances is also a means to push more dances to the private rooms where they won't be counting. That room rent is 99% profit.

No wonder so many dancers are offering OTC.[/QUOTE]When dancers became employees in CA it meant that they get a salary (minimum wage, of course) and breaks and probably some other benefits. The club has to make that money back somehow. One of those ways is taking a cut of every dance. You pay the club manager $40 and he gives some portion of that to the dancer afterwards. In some clubs the girl won't get a dime of that dance money until she's met her quota that covers her salary and whatever benefits. That can definitely put a damper on a girl's enthusiasm. This model does tend to encourage extras insofar as that extra incentive is needed at a given club. If the club is taking a cut of dance fees but not her tips she's going to be incentivized to want more in tips.

[QUOTE=KcMoks1980;7153296]I went to Pandora's on Friday night around 9 pm. I haven't been in a while so they are remodeling the place. One of the dancers said they're adding a DJ booth up front where the two VIP rooms used to be. They're going to serve food and alcohol where the bar is. Also added drywall in certain areas. They also told me that they're going to have someone watching in the lap dance area for how many dances they do. There were about 15 to 20 guys there but nobody was tipping on stage. The DJ was getting a little upset. There were about 12 dancers there. I guess most of the dancers didn't get their dancer's license by the start of the new year. They can't get it until they come back. I got a dance from Madison. She will offer full service in VIP but I decline because she want it too much. I did 3 for 100 with her then I left. Next time I go I'm going back to days again. LOL.[/QUOTE]Good thing you didn't go to VIP with her. She's a scam. She overpromises what she'll do for you in VIP but doesn't deliver what was promised. And she demands for payment up front, which should be a red flag.

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No wonder so many dancers are offering OTC.[/QUOTE]What is OTC? Its not in the Abbreviations list. Over the clothes?

[QUOTE=ShogunHua;7158896]What is OTC? Its not in the Abbreviations list. Over the clothes?[/QUOTE]OTC in this situation means outside the club.

[QUOTE=ShogunHua;7158896]What is OTC? Its not in the Abbreviations list. Over the clothes?[/QUOTE]Outside the club

[QUOTE=DapperDavid;7158320]Good thing you didn't go to VIP with her. She's a scam. She overpromises what she'll do for you in VIP but doesn't deliver what was promised. And she demands for payment up front, which should be a red flag.[/QUOTE]I couldn't disagree more. Madison has the best dirty talk in the club, and I've had a few dances from her. She's open to more, but not for free of course, and YMMV too. She's definitely a safety girl, but she's a lotta fun, and super cool once she gets to know you. I think you may have just caught her on a bad night, or maybe she got a vibe that she couldn't trust you. Sorry if you had a bad experience, but I've never had anything to complain about with her.

Hi All, I think the glory days of getting what you want at Pandoras etc will come to an end, now with Alcohol being introduced, and all the new regulations. Monse and the other ones who give great service will probably, if not already, start offering OTC, and meet you somewhere else. They may also try and sneak a way to do what they do but it probably will be too expensive and risky to do. I hope I am wrong but I have a feeling that this is what will become of Strip Clubs in Seattle.

[QUOTE=NerdsKnowBest;7159713]I couldn't disagree more. Madison has the best dirty talk in the club, and I've had a few dances from her. She's open to more, but not for free of course, and YMMV too. She's definitely a safety girl, but she's a lotta fun, and super cool once she gets to know you. I think you may have just caught her on a bad night, or maybe she got a vibe that she couldn't trust you. Sorry if you had a bad experience, but I've never had anything to complain about with her.[/QUOTE]Madison is a known scammer at Pandoras. Unfortunately she scammed me too. We agreed to 300 to fuck in a room, but she wanted payment upfront. I paid her, and then she immediately said it's 500 for sex. Just search her name for all the scam reports.

[QUOTE=NerdsKnowBest;7159713]I couldn't disagree more. Madison has the best dirty talk in the club, and I've had a few dances from her. She's open to more, but not for free of course, and YMMV too. She's definitely a safety girl, but she's a lotta fun, and super cool once she gets to know you. I think you may have just caught her on a bad night, or maybe she got a vibe that she couldn't trust you. Sorry if you had a bad experience, but I've never had anything to complain about with her.[/QUOTE]Madison sucks, and not in the good way. She came up to me once, talking a good game. I went to the back with her expecting a typical Pandy's experience. She got out her fake tits. When, I leaned forward, she put both hands on my chest, and pushed me back. No touching allowed. It was literally one of the most boring dances I have ever had. I was one, and done. She said one thing, and did not deliver, at all. Never again.

[QUOTE=Eeldred;7159942]Hi All, I think the glory days of getting what you want at Pandoras etc will come to an end, now with Alcohol being introduced, and all the new regulations. Monse and the other ones who give great service will probably, if not already, start offering OTC, and meet you somewhere else. They may also try and sneak a way to do what they do but it probably will be too expensive and risky to do. I hope I am wrong but I have a feeling that this is what will become of Strip Clubs in Seattle.[/QUOTE]The percentage of dancers offering OTC is already high, especially daytime. That's true for any club and its been that way in Seattle for decades.

[QUOTE=LSteele;7160349]The percentage of dancers offering OTC is already high, especially daytime. That's true for any club and its been that way in Seattle for decades.[/QUOTE]Anyone know if Allie or Anya offer OTC meetups? If so, I can DM you to get details if you'd rather keep it that way.

[QUOTE=LSteele;7160349]The percentage of dancers offering OTC is already high, especially daytime. That's true for any club and its been that way in Seattle for decades.[/QUOTE]This.

Nearly all of the girls at the clubs provide OTC services to at least some of their customers. If they perceive their rotation as satisfactory though they are unlikely to take on another client. These situations start looking a lot like Sugar Bowl relationships.

Basically there are Three kinds of strippers:

1. Short timers. They are new to the biz and if they stay longer they evolve into either a 2 or a 3. Also the least likely to do OTC
2. Career girls. They are running a business and are about making their money efficiently. Which they usually do.
3. Fuck ups. Through either mental health issues or drug issues they work a strip club because they have nowhere else to go.

And girls do transition between 2 and 3.

For my money the 2s are the best deal. They get the job done and they can be a lot of fun. And they know it is a job. The 1s often have GPS if you can even get anywhere with them and the 3s are just a life support system for chaos and disaster.

[QUOTE=KarumaIndo;7160933]Anyone know if Allie or Anya offer OTC meetups? If so, I can DM you to get details if you'd rather keep it that way.[/QUOTE]No idea about Anya but I recall a post awhile back that indicated OTC with Allie but that was during Covid club closures. My read on her is that she heavily favors her regulars even in the club and that OTC would be unlikely unless you've put in the work. That said, if other speculation on here pans out regarding tighter restrictions on ITC dances that impact a dancers income, anything could become possible.