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One thing I like about follies is the quality and quantity of girls. The VIP standard is about 150 . I have paid about the same at Wax and Babes, and HJ at Pinups.
But not sure if I overpaid. Has anybody got anything close to $100 consistently at Wax or Babes.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3324457]Comments inline:
Please fill me in on the lingo you use as well. I just haven't developed the balls o ask a dancer directly for takeout.
- I'm pretty direct. The thing is, I present myself in a certain way. I'm the best guy they've met all day, probably all week, and maybe all month. I know that I'm better dressed, more well spoken, smarter, wittier, prettier, etc, etc than any guy she's met in a while; I do this for everything, business, private life, everything, and at considerable effort. I've read what she's read; I can explain her opinions to her. When I invite her to fuck, she feels *honored*. Yes, this sounds arrogant and dickish, but the fact is, the kind of woman who becomes a stripper defines herself by the men who desire her; give her a chance to fly a little, and she'll take it. Generally speaking, though I'm generous in the club, I don't pay for the OTC hook ups.
O.[/QUOTE]I like to go in the afternoon and I make sure to dress professional and smell good. I usually act uninterested too, which makes the girl try do more to keep those dances going. Thats when they reach for the dick or start talking about going to the VIP.
And when it comes to take out, I had a lot of successes texting girls on Sunday or early in the day before they get to work.
[QUOTE=Hootie1998;3327200]Some the girls will bounce between pony and oasis.
It's a bit harder to get take out from pony but oasis seems a bit easier.
Anyone want to share some insite on who to target at Pp or oasis? Pm inbox is fine.[/QUOTE]DEFINITELY interested in info on takeout from Oasis if anyone has any.
[QUOTE=DurandPaul;3327244]One thing I like about follies is the quality and quantity of girls. The VIP standard is about 150 . I have paid about the same at Wax and Babes, and HJ at Pinups.
But not sure if I overpaid. Has anybody got anything close to $100 consistently at Wax or Babes.[/QUOTE]Had a stripper at babes who would give me d* out dance and a HJ for about 80 or VIP fees plus 10 per song until I was *done* haven't seen her in my last 5 visits and I lost her number so I'll have to find another friend eventually.
They did amateur boxing matches and strip contests all the time.
Nikki's was my go-to spot for VIP action, and I've lost count how many time a stripper and I would leave the club, "play", and I'd drop her off at the club, or at her home. Fun times.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3325817]Once or twice I was at the club with a group, and someone would do something stupid (like pick a fight) and we'd all get thrown out; of course, that can happen in any "group out clubbing" scenario.
One time was just a mystery: there was this half-Vietnamese and half-black chick who danced at Pink Pony I had a fuck buddy thing with, and I kind of lost touch with her for a few months; one day I decided to pop by Strokers and there she was. She was very solicitous, asked me to get a table and she'd join me in a few, and next thing a couple of heavies were politely-but-firmly asking me to leave the club. A year later I ran into her at a Buckhead night club (before those were all swept away) and she was very skinny and strung-out looking, and gave me some kind of explanation I couldn't understand (because I'm not a junkie, I guess). Still a mystery which bugs me from time to time, I admit!
The final time was kind of funny. Back in the day, there used to be amateur strip contests at most of the clubs, usually a slow night, and almost never actual amateurs. I took a girl to one at some club on Stewart Avenue (sorry, ahem, Metropolitan) and they wound up throwing me out because they thought I was trying to "fix" the contest (which was true, actually). The clubs always fixed them so I was going to beat them at your own game; it didn't work!
Life of adventure, what can I say?
O.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DurandPaul;3327244]One thing I like about follies is the quality and quantity of girls. The VIP standard is about 150 . I have paid about the same at Wax and Babes, and HJ at Pinups.
But not sure if I overpaid. Has anybody got anything close to $100 consistently at Wax or Babes.[/QUOTE]I've paid $100 at Wax.
The thing you have to be careful of at black clubs in general (sorry to generalize, but this is my subjective experience) is the habit of deliberate non-transparency. That is, a girl will just keep working, letting her fee in HER MIND add up, and then expect that fee when all is said and done.
It happens with dances: I know I (at least) am unable to tell when one song ends and another begins. The black clubs hook you in with $5 dances; cheap, right? Well, not if "a dance" is a 60 second snippet which you can't distinguish from all the other 60 second snippets: this is intentional design to overcharge customers. I manage it myself by paying for dances up front in blocks of four (usually), so I cap my risk at $20 per block.
In VIP, here is what happened once at Wax. There was a super hot, young (Wax is one of the high school to stripper pipelines) ebony thing I decide to take to VIP. She asks for $100, which is fine by me, and we hit it off and wind up spending about two hours there (because I discover her quick switch to orgasm and she just keeps popping off, and of course I leverage this). We only finish when I literally have to go because I have an appointment, at which point it turn out that TO HER, the $100 was for half an hour, and now I owe her another $300. Not cool, and a fast way to spoil a great evening. I did turn it around to make it a win (used it to leverage OTC from her), but only because she was a cool girl; there are a lot of VERY NOT COOL strippers, wingnut cases who would certainly make a scene out of such a "misunderstanding". Be sure to nail down all the terms first!
My understanding is that Babes is also an excellent extras club, but the one time I went there it was all heifers (sorry, "thick girls") so I didn't stick around.
O.
[QUOTE=BKeeper;3328539]They did amateur boxing matches and strip contests all the time.
Nikki's was my go-to spot for VIP action, and I've lost count how many time a stripper and I would leave the club, "play", and I'd drop her off at the club, or at her home. Fun times.[/QUOTE]Club Nikki was an experience, but this was another club, a pretty roughneck white club down the street; lots of bikers hung out there. I want to say it was Club Fox or Club Foxx or something; the exact name evades me. Probably not the wisest club to try to run a con on.
O.
Where are the strip clubs that got some women with bushy pussy.
Had another great visit at Follies. Hooked up with Carla (in the VIP. During negotiations she asked me how much I usually spend. I said $152 so off we went. After the session I hand over $100. She goes WTF, it was supposed to be $200. I tell her no, I said 152. It was a great session so I give her about twenty $1 bills and all was cool.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3329088]I've paid $100 at Wax.
The thing you have to be careful of at black clubs in general (sorry to generalize, but this is my subjective experience) is the habit of deliberate non-transparency. That is, a girl will just keep working, letting her fee in HER MIND add up, and then expect that fee when all is said and done.
......O.[/QUOTE]Ozy,Thanks for your very insightful posts. I do the constant "reality check" I confirm the number of dances and / or costs every 2 songs or 4 songs depending on how long I want to continue. I am bad at asking upfront for extras costs, for extras I "pre-screen" the stripper based on familiarity and past performance and take a risk of getting a sticker shot at end of deed!
[QUOTE=Bohemian2;3329889]Ozy,Thanks for your very insightful posts. I do the constant "reality check" I confirm the number of dances and / or costs every 2 songs or 4 songs depending on how long I want to continue. I am bad at asking upfront for extras costs, for extras I "pre-screen" the stripper based on familiarity and past performance and take a risk of getting a sticker shot at end of deed![/QUOTE]I feel you bro, it's so lame that the club automatically believes whatever bs a dancer says. That's why they pull those scams, because they know they have the unconditional support of the big 6'4 250 lb bouncers.
It's almost like they view it as us vs. Them.
They need to remember that the customers are the reason the clubs stay open.
I think they don't pull that BS with regulars, they only do it to unfamiliar faces.
I know which club you're referring to.
You were lucky to not get your head beat in for that stunt!
I've never checked it out, but, b / c of it's location, I'd park there (by the lot entrance, off to the side) to chill / clean up / or chat, and I've seen fights break out in the parking lot or spill out the club into the parking lot. Now, I had been warned (by a biker friend who frequented the club, he would always invite me to come with him) that if I ever did go, to never piss off the employees! Apparently, the bouncers loved beating (and robbing) patrons.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3329095]Club Nikki was an experience, but this was another club, a pretty roughneck white club down the street; lots of bikers hung out there. I want to say it was Club Fox or Club Foxx or something; the exact name evades me. Probably not the wisest club to try to run a con on.
O.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrBushPilot;3329643]Had another great visit at Follies. Hooked up with Carla (in the VIP. During negotiations she asked me how much I usually spend. I said $152 so off we went. After the session I hand over $100. She goes WTF, it was supposed to be $200. I tell her no, I said 152. It was a great session so I give her about twenty $1 bills and all was cool.[/QUOTE]You did the right thing. Just think about those cheap losers, trying to buy pussy on Old National last night. It will cost them way more than $252.00.
[QUOTE=Abundance;3330450]You did the right thing. Just think about those cheap losers, trying to buy pussy on Old National last night. It will cost them way more than $252.00.[/QUOTE]Let me clarify. I gave her $52 for the house, went back and had a great time. Then I gave her $100. Thats when she was looking for $200. I said sorry and gave her a fistful of $1 bills. She was cool with that.
[QUOTE=Abundance;3330450]You did the right thing. Just think about those cheap losers, trying to buy pussy on Old National last night. It will cost them way more than $252.00.[/QUOTE]Who are we to call those unfortunate Johns "cheap losers". Though I am not for unsafe sex with hookers, its individual choice. One can lose a lot of money in Stripclubs too, would that make us losers too?