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Cf
I've engaged Marley for lap dances (only) and her participation levels and pricing are fine in that endeavor (for me). I like blonde, thin, energetic, and pencil thin nipples! I have no issue with those that favor Marley or don't, but most are participating in this discussion with the specific view of VIP effort only. And yes, lap dances are a waste of time and money to USASexGuide Providence! It still remains fairly busy over there!
I've also engaged Alicia for VIP and Lap Dances and she quickly a set price lap dance for me after telling her that if she continues to try to negotiate beyond the bar. She's dead to me! I've also told her that 2 clubs ago her marketing skills were far more appealing to me, because she took a more intensive hands on approach to upsell the engagement.
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Lap dances and VIP
[QUOTE=Harmen;6595714]I've engaged Marley for lap dances (only) and her participation levels and pricing are fine in that endeavor (for me). I like blonde, thin, energetic, and pencil thin nipples! I have no issue with those that favor Marley or don't, but most are participating in this discussion with the specific view of VIP effort only. And yes, lap dances are a waste of time and money to USASexGuide Providence! It still remains fairly busy over there!
I've also engaged Alicia for VIP and Lap Dances and she quickly a set price lap dance for me after telling her that if she continues to try to negotiate beyond the bar. She's dead to me! I've also told her that 2 clubs ago her marketing skills were far more appealing to me, because she took a more intensive hands on approach to upsell the engagement.[/QUOTE]If people want to take girls for lap dances it's their choice same with the guys who pay dancers to just talk or for a platonic relationship. I think that's fucking stupid myself, but who am I to tell people how to spend their money?
The very nature of this forum is about sex. So my definition of a dancer who is a waste of time is extras suggested but not delivered and overall prudish behavior and rules. Air dances, you can't touch. Get out of here with that crap.
If she wants to play softball go to another club, not one where 90% of the dancers are doing extras.
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CF Lap Dances & VIP
Funny, the way I read this forum is that we are posting under Strip Club Reports and amazingly CF has a lot of customers doing it wrong in the still open lap dance area. I've also never not had a lap dance that didn't involve mutual 2 way contact anyplace in Providence. It's at the kitty where we start splitting hairs, whether in VIP or Lap Dances! I've been to both areas in CF and have received full service on occasion in both areas. I've been ripped off occasionally here and elsewhere as well. I certainly believe that Marley ripped you and others off, but many dancers do the same when they believe opportunity is knocking at every club.
I believe your suggested 90% level is quite inflated or you wouldn't need your info. It's been a while since Providence "hunting" in a strip club was like shooting fish in a barrel, It might be the other reason that KOF is no longer lighting up the [URL]Ancestory.com[/URL] boards with annual additions.
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[QUOTE=Harmen;6596482]Funny, the way I read this forum is that we are posting under Strip Club Reports and amazingly CF has a lot of customers doing it wrong in the still open lap dance area. I've also never not had a lap dance that didn't involve mutual 2 way contact anyplace in Providence. It's at the kitty where we start splitting hairs, whether in VIP or Lap Dances! I've been to both areas in CF and have received full service on occasion in both areas. I've been ripped off occasionally here and elsewhere as well. I certainly believe that Marley ripped you and others off, but many dancers do the same when they believe opportunity is knocking at every club.
I believe your suggested 90% level is quite inflated or you wouldn't need your info. It's been a while since Providence "hunting" in a strip club was like shooting fish in a barrel, It might be the other reason that KOF is no longer lighting up the [URL]Ancestory.com[/URL] boards with annual additions.[/QUOTE]Marley did not rip me off, that was another poster and bro, my reference point is CD. I am somewhat new to CF. Name a dancer besides Novaline who does not do extras at CD. Yes some ask for crazy money, but they still offer them. For me a two way contact LD is a waste of time. I'm looking for action and a BJ at the minimum.
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[QUOTE=Harmen;6596482]Funny, the way I read this forum is that we are posting under Strip Club Reports and amazingly CF has a lot of customers doing it wrong in the still open lap dance area. I've also never not had a lap dance that didn't involve mutual 2 way contact anyplace in Providence. It's at the kitty where we start splitting hairs, whether in VIP or Lap Dances! I've been to both areas in CF and have received full service on occasion in both areas. I've been ripped off occasionally here and elsewhere as well. I certainly believe that Marley ripped you and others off, but many dancers do the same when they believe opportunity is knocking at every club.
I believe your suggested 90% level is quite inflated or you wouldn't need your info. It's been a while since Providence "hunting" in a strip club was like shooting fish in a barrel, It might be the other reason that KOF is no longer lighting up the [URL]Ancestory.com[/URL] boards with annual additions.[/QUOTE]I think the 90% is a little low. I don't think I have ever had a VIP where the dancer didn't take Jr out at least. Literally can't remember any that didn't. Even Joy will! That said, I would say 50% do ALOT more and of that 15% are very good and worth a repeat. I agree, I have had 1 lap dance at CF EVER. Just not worth it. VIP is where the magic happens.
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Marley
Nice babe.
Butt did a weird back flip type of thing and her crotch was in my face. No thanks, freshen up perhaps.
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[QUOTE=Joey1994;6594925]One thing I appreciate (so far) about the ladies at fantasies. Very clear and direct about menu, pricing.
Could be the CD throng has some folks spreading the "you'll have a good time" "I'll take care of you" nonsense.
The dancers I've interacted with have been open and direct. And delivered.[/QUOTE]In the days of the late and great Cheaters, there were always some that pulled the "you'll have a good time" routine, but what I can't understand is why this seems to be tolerated these days. You would think that after one or two times of being burned, gents woud learn to pre-negotiae EVERYTHING that was expected, and the EXACT price. For me, of course, that was always a raw-dog fuck for about 100. Sure, there were those that pulled the bait and switch, but actually, not all that many back in those days. Most were honest, and followed through with what was agreed upon. But the ones that said, "Wait till we get in the booth, then we'll discuss the kind of fun we'll have. " Or, as pointed out above, the classic, "C'Mon. Honey, you'll have a great time!" Why the fuck does any normally-thinking dude who has been a strip club more than once falls for that shit, is beyond me!
My MO was to simply buy them a drink, chat them up for a few, take them into a dark corner and start making out and stick a finger up their twat. If they would not do that, then I did not want them in the fuckbooth anyway! But with the ones that passed the make-out-stink-finger test, I negotiated IN DETAIL what's going to happen in the fuckbooth, and for how much. If she balked at discussing services, I simply walked. The damage at most, that way, was the price of the drink. At most, two drinks, if it took that long for them to show their true colors. So if they would not agree to discuss all services beforehand, I walked. There were plenty of other raw-dog pussyfish in that deep pink sea! Indeed, I easily raw-dogged a total of 51 of them in there, during the decade of circa 2003 to 2013, when it folded.
So, are you guys saying that approach doesn't work anymore? Or, are there just not any club-mongers these days that will insist on pinning down what services will be rendered, and what price, BEFOREHAND? Don't you think that if everyone took that approach, there would be FAR less disappointment? Remember, gents, these are HOES, and they sell their services for cash. They are not your dates on prom night!
So, Joey: WHICH girls at Fantasies, pray tell, are "open and direct", as you put it?! That does sound encouraging! Do any of those include those who will pre-negotiate BBFS for something resembling a fair price, lets say 150 total, including the house? Or, due to the very real inflation since then, maybe 200? Or do I TRULY need a time machine?
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Social media
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;6596908]In the days of the late and great Cheaters, there were always some that pulled the "you'll have a good time" routine, but what I can't understand is why this seems to be tolerated these days. You would think that after one or two times of being burned, gents woud learn to pre-negotiae EVERYTHING that was expected, and the EXACT price. For me, of course, that was always a raw-dog fuck for about 100. Sure, there were those that pulled the bait and switch, but actually, not all that many back in those days. Most were honest, and followed through with what was agreed upon. But the ones that said, "Wait till we get in the booth, then we'll discuss the kind of fun we'll have. " Or, as pointed out above, the classic, "C'Mon. Honey, you'll have a great time!" Why the fuck does any normally-thinking dude who has been a strip club more than once falls for that shit, is beyond me!
My MO was to simply buy them a drink, chat them up for a few, take them into a dark corner and start making out and stick a finger up their twat. If they would not do that, then I did not want them in the fuckbooth anyway! But with the ones that passed the make-out-stink-finger test, I negotiated IN DETAIL what's going to happen in the fuckbooth, and for how much. If she balked at discussing services, I simply walked. The damage at most, that way, was the price of the drink. At most, two drinks, if it took that long for them to show their true colors. So if they would not agree to discuss all services beforehand, I walked. There were plenty of other raw-dog pussyfish in that deep pink sea! Indeed, I easily raw-dogged a total of 51 of them in there, during the decade of circa 2003 to 2013, when it folded.[/QUOTE]Lots of things to break down dude. To be succinct no, I don't think there are RI strippers who will fuck you raw for $200. I never experienced cheaters, but you need to understand that the new generation of strippers are mostly entitled women under 30. They have access to social media like instagram where they get offers from D to B level celebrities to sell their services or 'date' them. Simple befriend one of these girls and ask to see her DMs. Yes she is still a ho, but the amount of guys that hit them up and thirst is at levels never seen before. IG, seeking and that shit didn't exist before. To summarize, she has a rich guy offering her way more than $200 for a rawdog or to buy her time.
Also these aren't girls of yesteryear, some expect you to have decent looks and game even if you're paying them, the hottest anyway. Fucked but true. Anyone disagree?
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KofFours
Full disclosure; I've only recently struck gold at fantasies. But had plenty of luck at CD with my direct approach of telling ladies I think a VIP should be like a good third date. DFK, DATY and a BBBJ. I spell it out. No room for misinterpretation.
Recently at fantasies; Diamond (all covered) dahlia (great time) have been very open direct with me before I could even ask. Same with a few others who've approached me or I've tipped onstage.
Price has been $200 plus hiuse. Both could be had for less. But I tipped.
Diamond won't fuck raw.
It's not my thing so I'm not sure.
Good luck.
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Day or night?
[QUOTE=Joey1994;6597398]Full disclosure; I've only recently struck gold at fantasies. But had plenty of luck at CD with my direct approach of telling ladies I think a VIP should be like a good third date. DFK, DATY and a BBBJ. I spell it out. No room for misinterpretation.
Recently at fantasies; Diamond (all covered) dahlia (great time) have been very open direct with me before I could even ask. Same with a few others who've approached me or I've tipped onstage.
Price has been $200 plus hiuse. Both could be had for less. But I tipped.
Diamond won't fuck raw.
It's not my thing so I'm not sure.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Are these day or night girls?
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[QUOTE=MosesBlack;6597211]Lots of things to break down dude. To be succinct no, I don't think there are RI strippers who will fuck you raw for $200. I never experienced cheaters, but you need to understand that the new generation of strippers are mostly entitled women under 30. They have access to social media like instagram where they get offers from D to B level celebrities to sell their services or 'date' them. Simple befriend one of these girls and ask to see her DMs. Yes she is still a ho, but the amount of guys that hit them up and thirst is at levels never seen before. IG, seeking and that shit didn't exist before. To summarize, she has a rich guy offering her way more than $200 for a rawdog or to buy her time.
Also these aren't girls of yesteryear, some expect you to have decent looks and game even if you're paying them, the hottest anyway. Fucked but true. Anyone disagree?[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. People need to forget what happened 15 years ago at Cheaters. Times have changed.
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[QUOTE=MosesBlack;6597211]Lots of things to break down dude. To be succinct no, I don't think there are RI strippers who will fuck you raw for $200. I never experienced cheaters, but you need to understand that the new generation of strippers are mostly entitled women under 30. They have access to social media like instagram where they get offers from D to B level celebrities to sell their services or 'date' them. Simple befriend one of these girls and ask to see her DMs. Yes she is still a ho, but the amount of guys that hit them up and thirst is at levels never seen before. IG, seeking and that shit didn't exist before. To summarize, she has a rich guy offering her way more than $200 for a rawdog or to buy her time.
Also these aren't girls of yesteryear, some expect you to have decent looks and game even if you're paying them, the hottest anyway. Fucked but true. Anyone disagree?[/QUOTE]One thing I agree with is girls, and guys, under 30 are entitled! I'm not sure if you are a day or night person but I haven't been to a strip club at night for several years and have no plans to do so in the future! Yes, I am an old fart and miss the Cheater's days as well! But, I do frequent clubs afternoons and find plenty in my price range which is under or at $200 for both house and dancer. Iy could possibly be that the girls expect that from the older guys, have no clue and don't care! I will not part with more than a certain amount of money and I think they understand that and take what they can get. Sure, there are plenty that walk away but fine, their loss as far as I am concerned!
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Night
[QUOTE=WillyO;6597992]One thing I agree with is girls, and guys, under 30 are entitled! I'm not sure if you are a day or night person but I haven't been to a strip club at night for several years and have no plans to do so in the future! Yes, I am an old fart and miss the Cheater's days as well! But, I do frequent clubs afternoons and find plenty in my price range which is under or at $200 for both house and dancer. Iy could possibly be that the girls expect that from the older guys, have no clue and don't care! I will not part with more than a certain amount of money and I think they understand that and take what they can get. Sure, there are plenty that walk away but fine, their loss as far as I am concerned![/QUOTE]I go at night with the occasional afternoon. My issue, if you want to call it that is that I tend to go for certain top shelf broads so end up paying more. I also enjoy pussy as the BJ sometimes won't do it for me and a HJ not at all usually. Although my last trip to Fantasies was an excellent fuck session for 200 + room. Compared to CD it was a great deal. But raw like KOF expects? Never happened. I have rawdogged some dancers but it was after knowing them a long time and don't recommend it! They are all doing more guys than just you! The clap was going around CD 4 to 5 months back cause of some dirty ****** and patrons. There is an even an antibiotic resistant version, which started near Boston!
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[QUOTE=WillyO;6597992]One thing I agree with is girls, and guys, under 30 are entitled! I'm not sure if you are a day or night person but I haven't been to a strip club at night for several years and have no plans to do so in the future! Yes, I am an old fart and miss the Cheater's days as well! But, I do frequent clubs afternoons and find plenty in my price range which is under or at $200 for both house and dancer. Iy could possibly be that the girls expect that from the older guys, have no clue and don't care! I will not part with more than a certain amount of money and I think they understand that and take what they can get. Sure, there are plenty that walk away but fine, their loss as far as I am concerned![/QUOTE]Would that 200 inclusive of house and dancer apply to BBFS? If so, which dancers, currently? I'm also an old fart and would be going during the day! In the Cheaters era, I would hit both shifts. But now, I want to just leave my senior citizen's load in a nice, nasty stripper's cunnt, and then just head back to the rest home for dinner, LOL! 😈.
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MosesBlack
[QUOTE=MosesBlack;6597211]Lots of things to break down dude. To be succinct no, I don't think there are RI strippers who will fuck you raw for $200. I never experienced cheaters, but you need to understand that the new generation of strippers are mostly entitled women under 30. They have access to social media like instagram where they get offers from D to B level celebrities to sell their services or 'date' them. Simple befriend one of these girls and ask to see her DMs. Yes she is still a ho, but the amount of guys that hit them up and thirst is at levels never seen before. IG, seeking and that shit didn't exist before. To summarize, she has a rich guy offering her way more than $200 for a rawdog or to buy her time.
Also these aren't girls of yesteryear, some expect you to have decent looks and game even if you're paying them, the hottest anyway. Fucked but true. Anyone disagree?[/QUOTE]I totally agree. The escorts are pretty much the same too. Outrageous pricing. In the clubs, I am a day guy. I go a few times a month. If they walk away, I say it's there loss. Especially since (no offense seasoned vets) I'm not THAT old and and bad looking. My pet peeve is the mooching of drinks. I find it uncomfortable.
KoF, keep posting your history lessons. It's just not the way it is anymore.