Gentlemen don't discuss donations
Just a few tips for the weary:
I've heard from more than one of you who find themselves not getting responses when you start talking about donations.
Never discuss donations with anyone unless you are standing face to face. You might argue you need to know how much to bring. Take the most you can afford or want to invest. If for some reason your expectations are below par, you have 2 choices; kick rocks, or go to the nearest ATM.
It has been my experience that it is not in your best interest (I'm guilty too), of trying to get a lot of intel with your first contact. Sure you need to gather the minimum info, but from their perspective you are wasting their time. Keep in mind they are probably texting with 5 or more prospects at a time.
Keep it lite and provide the day, time you would like to visit. Ask for general location. Tell her you will confirm 2 hours before you leave and if you don't get a response within 30 (maybe 45 if she's worth it) minutes.
You'll consider a cancellation on her part.
Hope this helps and I'm sure there are other great tips out there so please share.
Luv out.
I'll be one who disagrees
[QUOTE=ILuvForeplay;3763754]Just a few tips for the weary:
I've heard from more than one of you who find themselves not getting responses when you start talking about donations.
Never discuss donations with anyone unless you are standing face to face. You might argue you need to know how much to bring. Take the most you can afford or want to invest. If for some reason your expectations are below par, you have 2 choices; kick rocks, or go to the nearest ATM.
It has been my experience that it is not in your best interest (I'm guilty too), of trying to get a lot of intel with your first contact. Sure you need to gather the minimum info, but from their perspective you are wasting their time. Keep in mind they are probably texting with 5 or more prospects at a time.
Keep it lite and provide the day, time you would like to visit. Ask for general location. Tell her you will confirm 2 hours before you leave and if you don't get a response within 30 (maybe 45 if she's worth it) minutes.
You'll consider a cancellation on her part.
Hope this helps and I'm sure there are other great tips out there so please share.
Luv out.[/QUOTE]I've never come across asking for donation for time as illegal. "how much is 30 minutes of your time"? Ok. "How much for quick bbjcim?" gotcha! I've read several LE reports where they mention guys asking for money but didn't get specific with sex act. Dude comes in and says they just want a massage and LE tells them scram. Be 100% safe and sound so you don't slip up later? Ok sure. Just don't see how waiting to stand face to face makes it safer. Many guys been arrested after they talked face 2 face. Don't mention sex period.
I'm not arguing that girl shouldn't do what makes her feel safest. But I don't feel asking for money for your time is trying to get alot of intel from them. And hundreds of girls have never felt it was wasted time when I asked a simple how much for time? So I'm going to disagree about it being "their perspective" when so many times that's what the girls I've talked to felt comfortable with. If I asked a rate and she keeps coming back without telling me, now who is wasting time? Either tell me a rate or say sorry I don't do that. Yeah, they run their show, but they don't run mine.
Somebody mentioned getting their rates from a website. This would be excellent. Except many of these girls don't use websites. If there are more successful ways to bring the correct rate I'd love to hear them. I just see myself getting super frustrated if I show up and the rate ain't what I'm prepared to pay. I would feel that such wasted time what I don't have alot of.
Worth continuing the discussion
[B]Just to be clear there is no one right way to 100% assure yourself of safety, or services rendered. But you can however minimize the probability of F'ing up.[/B]
As I stated in my original post I knew there might be different perspectives. What I wanted to convey after listening to legitimate concerns from our applicant pool is there just might be a better way to mutual and beneficial agreements.
I will pass along, maybe to my own regret but it has NEVER failed me, the importance of making a connection.
If you have eyes to see and ears to hear, hear this. LOL.
You may have values that prevent you from considering a provider as nothing more than a puss bucket, but if you want the best she has to offer you should suspend all that BS and connect with her. Now some of you will prolly say I'll connect alright. And miss the point. But I know some of my fellow SM members get this.
BTW. For all members. Feel free to chime in on my comments. I do not consider an opposing view as a threat. We would be foolish not to learn from each other and I am still learning too.
Let's keep the party going fellows.
Be smart stay safe.
Luv Out!!
[QUOTE=Traveler9;3764172]What if you get there and she looks nothing like her picture with a high donation? If 4 guys walk away because of high donations, wouldn't she say that you wasted her time? If I am selling anything or offering a service online if I really want to sell the item I have to answer questions or the buy moves on. The problem is these ho's need to make this easy money, when their bills aren't getting paid they will come around.
How many of you have notice that you are being recorded from the time you get out of your car at a providers location? Guys all I am saying is that we need to look out for our own safety.
Safe Hunting.[/QUOTE]
