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[QUOTE=Natasha33;1998366]While I appreciate the shot out from the infamous "NoCox", I am just clearing the air by saying I do not have an open menu.
It is nice of NoCox / Sandy / Anna to sweeten my pot but that statement is very misleading.
Natasha.[/QUOTE]Sadly, this is true. On the up side, I'd have to declare bankruptcy if her menu were truly open!
[QUOTE=Bismark;1998630]Sadly, this is true. On the up side, I'd have to declare bankruptcy if her menu were truly open![/QUOTE]I agree with the thankfulness to these women for not having a more open menu. I spend too much as it is. The poor house would be in my future with more temptation.
[QUOTE=Bismark;1998630]Sadly, this is true. On the up side, I'd have to declare bankruptcy if her menu were truly open![/QUOTE]Can you imagine the line? Cars would be backed up on Northbound and Southbound 131 Expressway for miles!
I really wish you would just stick to telling the truth of your own experiences instead of putting all those fake reports up. Be a man if that's what you really are.
[QUOTE=Bismark;1998630]Sadly, this is true. On the up side, I'd have to declare bankruptcy if her menu were truly open![/QUOTE]Yeah, my heart couldn't take it, so there'd have to be an ambulance or two in the traffic backup.
Seriously though, truly "Open Menus" are vanishing rare in MP's around GR, IMHO. Unlike BP providers who move location to location with ease, these girls have to show up at the same place day in and day out, AND have bosses / coworkers who's livelihood are on the line if LE takes too great an interest in any location.
Saw Emily at East West. Very nice looking young lady with good personallity. She stayed fully dressed and out of reach while working on my legs. Ten minutes or so into my hour she has me flip. She offers a nude HE for a $. I said tht was a little too much. No negotiations so I cut the hour to a half. She said I was the only one to say that was too much. I told her more was availible for that price to which she countered "not this nice". I told her that nice and better but if she gets it good for her. I was out 40 bucks.
[QUOTE=Negaunee;1999078]Saw Emily at East West. Very nice looking young lady with good personallity. She stayed fully dressed and out of reach while working on my legs. Ten minutes or so into my hour she has me flip. She offers a nude HE for a $. I said tht was a little too much. No negotiations so I cut the hour to a half. She said I was the only one to say that was too much. I told her more was availible for that price to which she countered "not this nice". I told her that nice and better but if she gets it good for her. I was out 40 bucks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for TOFTT! Also thank you for going on strike to help protect all of our wallets. Hopefully, we can all do the same and keep the prices down to reasonable levels. There is a lot of competition out there right now, there is no reason to pay more than 60 for a HE.
[QUOTE=Donntee;1999434]Thanks for TOFTT! Also thank you for going on strike to help protect all of our wallets. Hopefully, we can all do the same and keep the prices down to reasonable levels. There is a lot of competition out there right now, there is no reason to pay more than 60 for a HE.[/QUOTE]My best experiences have been where money wasn't mentioned. The girls allowed roaming before undressing and then disrobed to what ever level they were comfortable with, preformed the HE and counted on a good tip based on their performance. Negotiations were only relevant if more was offered. I want to have fun not a "buying a used car experience". I am of the mind 40 for topless HE and 60 for nude HE roaming allowed.
As for Emily staying out of reach during the massage this was a signal roaming would not have been involved anyways. I have changed my hour to a 1/2 hour with other girls before when things went south. Sometimes they respond with more open negotiations. Emily did not. Why stay longer and pay more for nothing? I have never had trouble with the front desk for paying a lower fee after changing the time.
Not taking a shot at you personally Donntee but my 2-cents is $40 is typically my max tip for HE.
Maybe, just maybe if she's super hot and goes nude or allows FIV I might jump to $60.
More than a HE of course raises tips from me to BP girls levels but that's so rare in GR MPs why discuss it.
[QUOTE=Donntee;1999434]Thanks for TOFTT! Also thank you for going on strike to help protect all of our wallets. Hopefully, we can all do the same and keep the prices down to reasonable levels. There is a lot of competition out there right now, there is no reason to pay more than 60 for a HE.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Monger01;1999915]Not taking a shot at you personally Donntee but my 2-cents is $40 is typically my max tip for HE.
Maybe, just maybe if she's super hot and goes nude or allows FIV I might jump to $60.
More than a HE of course raises tips from me to BP girls levels but that's so rare in GR MPs why discuss it.[/QUOTE]I generally walk in with 120 for an hour for the room and tip. I start at 40 (leaving me 20 for a burger and some gas) but go to 60 if I get a good view and can grope freely. In the rare case that she stands three feet away providing an HE in one hand holding her nose with the other, that's worth 20 to me and I'll not repeat. For a couple of the providers, I go to 80 fairly often but they provide a very intense experience despite having fairly limited menus. In those cases, I know who I will see and bring a little extra. Once in GR, I went to 100 but she won't do what is worth 100 to me anymore and I haven't seen her since she explained that to me (though she was happy to get the franklin the time she earned it).
This is true regardless of whether she's Jenny McCarthy or Melissa McCarthy. For me, it's not about what the therapist is "worth". I don't have enough money to pay for priceless and even the worst provider is priceless. It's about what the service is worth. Ladies who take issue with that idea and I usually don't get a long very well.
[QUOTE=Monger01;1999915]Not taking a shot at you personally Donntee but my 2-cents is $40 is typically my max tip for HE.
Maybe, just maybe if she's super hot and goes nude or allows FIV I might jump to $60.
More than a HE of course raises tips from me to BP girls levels but that's so rare in GR MPs why discuss it.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Monger. For me, $40 tip would be maximum for a nude HE at the end of a decent hour massage. If the massage wasn't very good $30 is my upper limit. If she allows generous groping I might go a few dollar more, but if I've paid for an hour at $60 and tip $60 I may as well get full serviced from an escort.
[QUOTE=Blackfire;2000204]I agree with you Monger. For me, $40 tip would be maximum for a nude HE at the end of a decent hour massage. If the massage wasn't very good $30 is my upper limit. If she allows generous groping I might go a few dollar more, but if I've paid for an hour at $60 and tip $60 I may as well get full serviced from an escort.[/QUOTE]I completely agree. So, for our new union wage scale:
10 - Just massage.
20 - Massage Crappy, Topless HE.
30 - Massage Decent, Topless HE.
40 - Massage Decent, Topless HE with Grope.
50 - Massage Good, Nude, Hot, Grope, HE.
60 - Massage Good, Nude, Hot, Grope and more, HE.
80 - Massage Great, Nude, Body Slide, Hot, HE.
Attitude, Age, Looks, Hygiene are all variables, of course.
Saw Tia recently smokin hawt, very lackluster massage, didn't really seem to care what she did. Just kind of slather some lotion around and get it over with. Probably would not repeat.
Treyy.
Has anyone had a massage from someone that is as good as Natasha? Just love how she gets up on the table with you!
[QUOTE=FastHustler;2000960]Has anyone had a massage from someone that is as good as Natasha? Just love how she gets up on the table with you![/QUOTE]You definitely can't go wrong with Natalie. She is my favorite and the only one I will go to.
[QUOTE=FastHustler;2000960]Has anyone had a massage from someone that is as good as Natasha? Just love how she gets up on the table with you![/QUOTE]Natasha is the best. Will always be the best and I would have her babies...=.
[QUOTE=Monger01;1999915]Not taking a shot at you personally Donntee but my 2-cents is $40 is typically my max tip for HE.
Maybe, just maybe if she's super hot and goes nude or allows FIV I might jump to $60.
More than a HE of course raises tips from me to BP girls levels but that's so rare in GR MPs why discuss it.[/QUOTE]Geesh about time people discussed being reasonable with tips, I for one have mentioned this subject in the past really how much time does the h / e really last? 5-10 min?
60 $ equals what? 360 at hr wow good pay, jmo.
[QUOTE=Donntee;2000427]I completely agree. So, for our new union wage scale:
10 - Just massage.
20 - Massage Crappy, Topless HE.
30 - Massage Decent, Topless HE.
40 - Massage Decent, Topless HE with Grope.
50 - Massage Good, Nude, Hot, Grope, HE.
60 - Massage Good, Nude, Hot, Grope and more, HE.
80 - Massage Great, Nude, Body Slide, Hot, HE.
Attitude, Age, Looks, Hygiene are all variables, of course.[/QUOTE]Poor massage, poor attitude, asking too much - 1.00 - No. I just didn't want you to think I forgot to tip.
The list seems ok to me for the most part. I've never tipped more than .3 until recently, but then I don't ask for a lot. I'm good with the basics at MP's. The one time I did tip .4 was when the masseuse (bigger girl, but very nice looking) had me flip and without any fanfare took my hand and placed it on her ass, then proceeded to bring out a very nice set of twins and put one in my mouth while she started rubbing my legs and thighs. Then started a HJ with more expertise than I was used to. She must have overheard my conversation at the counter. A little research can go a long way sometimes gentlemen. Great lady. Overall experience was fantastic. Massage was good, but not great. Conversation was excellent. Lots of laughs and double meaning jokes. All falls right in line with the above list. I don't have a problem sticking to my guns and leaving with things unfinished. I know what I want and I know what it's worth to me. Of course once I woke up the dream was over. I think it's time to go back to sleep!
Had a session with Rhonda this week (Natasha was to busy;(which sucks! She does give a very good massage and she likes the finger in the ass thing which I have to admit I like it to. But she left all her cloths on and shorted me 20 minutes which is a HUGE pet peeve of mine if I pay for a hour I want a full hour I under stand it may take longer for some than others for a HE but if so why can't they go back to giving you a massage or as I have had done in the past a second HE! I will repeat if Natasha is busy. See if it is the full hour next time.
Went to Bella Gente again about a week ago and saw Kali. She is a mid 30's lady who gave a very good massage actually. I have pretty low standards for what I am expecting and fortunately it was above normal. Typical topless HE, no better, no worse than average I would say. 40 half, 30 tip and away I went.
[QUOTE=EngrGuy;1990545][URL]http://www.curtisymassagetherapy.com/default.html[/URL]
Seen it on NR and followed the link. Anyone seen her?[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's a little out there! The first time I went to her, I didn't know what to expect but got a good massage with no extras. She has a nice enough location and we just carried on a conversation while I stripped down and got on the table. She said "you don't need a sheet, do you?" which was kind of refreshing, actually! After a few visits with no HE, I decided to take her up on the "pelvic massage" which was only slightly more than a standard HE. Like the others here have said, there is no roaming of hands and she kind of talks a lot. It's nice to get a decent massage while completely naked so I'll go back for that. Unfortunately, it looks like her super cute daughter is no longer part of the deal.
Saw Emily at Pancea recently, she's a young bbw. Not obese just thick. Her pricing is weird. $40 for topless? I balked at that price over the course of the massage she just eventually took off her top anyway. Her massages are pretty useless almost nothing happening there. No complaints about the flip however. That part was great I tipped $40. I would repeat if I was just interested in the flip. If I actually need a massage pass.
So, I went to see Tia again. I had reviewed her before and had a reasonable time the first time. She didn't disrobe that first session but gave a great massage and a very satisfying ending.
This time, she was far more engaged. It's a theme week for valentines day and she was dressed in a far more accessible way. We switched for a while and I massaged her. All kinds of roaming allowed. When we switched back, the HE was intense. I truly think that she needs a session or two to get comfortable. I know some here have their doubts and opinions and that's just great.
This is one very hot woman who, if you take just a little time, delivers an outstanding session. Tipped double the first encounter (.8) because she went above and beyond the usual simple HE and grope session just as Natasha and Natalie do. Highly recommend.
[QUOTE=RushBlitzer;2006456]Saw Emily at Pancea recently, she's a young bbw. Not obese just thick. Her pricing is weird. $40 for topless? I balked at that price over the course of the massage she just eventually took off her top anyway. Her massages are pretty useless almost nothing happening there. No complaints about the flip however. That part was great I tipped $40. I would repeat if I was just interested in the flip. If I actually need a massage pass.[/QUOTE]I haven't tried Emily but I really hope this isn't getting to be the norm with Panacea. I have seen quite a few girls there with Natasha and Natalie probably my faves and a tip is NEVER discussed in the room. They do a great job and then you tip what you like afterwards. If it's a great session and you get your full time, then I give a good tip, otherwise the tip will reflect the service if it's poor!
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;2006591]I haven't tried Emily but I really hope this isn't getting to be the norm with Panacea. I have seen quite a few girls there with Natasha and Natalie probably my faves and a tip is NEVER discussed in the room. They do a great job and then you tip what you like afterwards. If it's a great session and you get your full time, then I give a good tip, otherwise the tip will reflect the service if it's poor![/QUOTE]I really don't think that's an increasing issue. I've seen most of the women there and this has only happened to me once. When Ashlynn (now Anna of E / W I think) was there she wanted a very high rate and we talked and I passed. I suspect that was part of the reason she parted ways with Panacea. I've not seen Emily; maybe that's just the way she operates. I agree, though, that I prefer to not discuss the tip beforehand unless something much more than is normal is going to happen.
Anyone have any input on Acupressure, in GR on E. Paris. I went there on my lunch and there was a sign taped on the door with a phone number and message saying they were with a client and to call or stop back. Just wondering if its worth the trip back.
This might of been covered in the past I just cannot remember has anyone tried her before? Anything special? She looks really cute. She always advertises you tried the rest now try the best if there is anything special to note please PM. Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=SamCruise;2007428]This might of been covered in the past I just cannot remember has anyone tried her before? Anything special? She looks really cute. She always advertises you tried the rest now try the best if there is anything special to note please PM. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]I can definitely tell you that she gives a great massage. She's professionally trained, I believe.
[QUOTE=SamCruise;2007428]This might of been covered in the past I just cannot remember has anyone tried her before? Anything special? She looks really cute. She always advertises you tried the rest now try the best if there is anything special to note please PM. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]I knew her when she was at Oasis on Eastern and Royal on 28th...Phenonominal massage skills and a nice he. I don't know to this day what happened, she stood me up on a Sunday. I was doing a total of 160.I thought we had a special arrangement with some interesting extras. Oh well, her loss. Don't piss her off!. Like I said, I don't know what happened. Take your chances! I won't repeat.
I absolutely love Anita at Pacific on 44th. A whole lot less Dinero and a whole lot more fun. If you can get in with her.
When you call her ask her if she used to be at Royal or oasis.
[QUOTE=SamCruise;2007428]This might of been covered in the past I just cannot remember has anyone tried her before? Anything special? She looks really cute. She always advertises you tried the rest now try the best if there is anything special to note please PM. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]It's the same Lin.
[QUOTE=Bloozer;2007866]It's the same Lin.[/QUOTE]Had her about 4 weeks ago. She has the ability to give quality massages. Shorted my hour by 40 minutes. Flip was mechanical and robotic. By the time I had gotten dressed, she had left the building.
Any intel on this one?
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-paradise-26/15078475[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrBurns76;2008315]Had her about 4 weeks ago. She has the ability to give quality massages. Shorted my hour by 40 minutes. Flip was mechanical and robotic. By the time I had gotten dressed, she had left the building.[/QUOTE]I have seen Lin a few times and have received the full time each visit. After the massage she has always seemed to be in a rush to leave the room. I do enjoy her massage. It would be a way better experience if they just took the entire hour and made it all about you and not rushing to get to the next client. It is all about customer service. Has anyone been to her "New Private Studio"? Is it clean and safe?
[QUOTE=ElJudoka;2009085]I have seen Lin a few times and have received the full time each visit. After the massage she has always seemed to be in a rush to leave the room. I do enjoy her massage. It would be a way better experience if they just took the entire hour and made it all about you and not rushing to get to the next client. It is all about customer service. Has anyone been to her "New Private Studio"? Is it clean and safe?[/QUOTE]I won't go back. New studio or old studio. She pissed me off!
[QUOTE=Colten99;2006698]Anyone have any input on Acupressure, in GR on E. Paris. I went there on my lunch and there was a sign taped on the door with a phone number and message saying they were with a client and to call or stop back. Just wondering if its worth the trip back.[/QUOTE]I went and had no such luck with HE. But I've read on here that others have went and made deals, so YMMV.
[QUOTE=Durant;1997337]I am looking for a Chiropractors Office that offers a "Good" massage. My insurance covers massages if they are at a Chiropractors office so I thought why not. Or anyone know a real hot woman that massages at one?[/QUOTE]That would be great. Any responses or leads yet?
I finally made it to Healthy Habits and got Kylene in the lottery. Decent looking short and thick filipina. Excellent massage skills, nice strong hands. She did not seem shy about touching me in the least so was I disappointed when I was told that she offers no extras. Will likely give HH one more try with a different provider and then move on if it is a repeat. Happy hunting. Treyy.
She's new there. Hot little young spinner. Mocha skin and rockin spinner bod. I'd guess Latin-American maybe?
So-so massage. She's so small there's not much pressure. She did try hard though and it was a complete top to bottom massage.
After the flip she politely asked if I needed all massaged. I of course said yes. Let my hands roam wherever I wanted. I didn't try FIV and doubt she'd allow it.
Other than she's super hot the real draw is her great cheerful attitude. During massage and during the ending. All positive vibes. She smiles the whole time and talks sweetly. I swear its like a GFE HE. Seriously!
Attitude. The secret to being a winner in anything that most girls in this line overlook in my opinion. You can be ugly and fat but an attitude that makes the client feel cared for for the 30-60 mins makes all the difference.
Obviously I recommend.
Stopped in on Monday to Bella Gente and no one there. Looked at BP and it says under their ad it is by appointment only? Anyone know what is going on? I had a couple of good visits there by just stopping in.
[QUOTE=MarkWa;2012275]Stopped in on Monday to Bella Gente and no one there. Looked at BP and it says under their ad it is by appointment only? Anyone know what is going on? I had a couple of good visits there by just stopping in.[/QUOTE]I called and she said they are moving. No other info at this time.