[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3023523]My roommate was looking so pretty today I had to post. Having her around helps keep any POTS with their big ideas in check. I think she looks damn good for her age. 34[/QUOTE]Hollywood, you are one lucky dawg there bro.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3023523]My roommate was looking so pretty today I had to post. Having her around helps keep any POTS with their big ideas in check. I think she looks damn good for her age. 34[/QUOTE]Hollywood, you are one lucky dawg there bro.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3023523]My roommate was looking so pretty today I had to post. Having her around helps keep any POTS with their big ideas in check. I think she looks damn good for her age. 34[/QUOTE]Lets see her lovely naked body Hguy. Please?
[QUOTE=WhenWhen;3023946]Lets see her lovely naked body Hguy. Please?[/QUOTE]That's not going to happen. LOL. She is my SO.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3024340]That's not going to happen. LOL. She is my SO.[/QUOTE]So did she decide to go FC with you. I know she was around and you guys were having some second base kind of fun. Didn't know it had progressed. Congrats! She is stunning!
[QUOTE=LargeEss;3024460]So did she decide to go FC with you. I know she was around and you guys were having some second base kind of fun. Didn't know it had progressed. Congrats! She is stunning![/QUOTE]No. She is strictly eye candy. And she pays me. So its just like all the SO stories I read about on this site. For now I just have an arrangement where I only see my girls when she is at work. I got her guest room all set up. Just need her to go buy a bed (which strangely she hasn't done yet). Then I can have someone sleep over if I want.
She doesn't date. She just works like 70 hours a week, comes home, we have dinner, I give her a legit massage and we go to sleep. So if I take the 7 bills a month she gives me and spend that on sugaring I am basically at zero for the month. I wont get too many trips to the FC but at least I am breaking even for now, until things pick up at work in a month or so.
[QUOTE=WhenWhen;3023946]Lets see her lovely naked body Hguy. Please?[/QUOTE]I wholeheartedly agree.
[QUOTE=Deerom;3024641]I wholeheartedly agree.[/QUOTE]She would have to be sleeping. LOL. Saw my ATF today. I renegotiated our arrangement to once a week for $1.4 including the RT uber.
I am going to meet this cute 19 year old after work tomorrow. It took a few weeks to make the connection. But that's more the route I am going these days. Get to know them a little first. But at 5.3 and maybe 110 she is in the game. She agreed to the $ plus transportation cost. We are going to just do the M&G at my place.
The Sultan had a harem of 1000 women stashed in the lower levels of the palace. He would send his eunuch to fetch one when she took his fancy, today Fatima, tomorrow Scheherazade. He insisted they arrive as quickly as possible, so the eunuch would rush to get the appointed lady and bring her upstairs. After a few years of this, the eunuch dropped dead coming up the staircase. The lesson here. Sex doesn't kill you, but running after it does.
Something to keep in mind when you are in frenzy of messaging on SA (which I have admittedly done).
ME. If you are willing to take less to be with a more chill, fun, and good looking guy, then we might be able to make this work. So what do you think?
Calicutie524.
Honestly, and I am an honest person, LA is expensive as hell. And I have no problem at all going out and getting a guy. Also 200 and 300 dollars were the lowest offers I got so far. I even have guys telling me they wil give me 800 to 1,000 so yeah sorry. But I,m not sorry to sound like a money hungry ****, so hey, I'm going to go with the top dollar.
Here is my latest convo with an Asian girl on SA. Her response is to my offer of $$ per date.
Her: I am a full time nursing student, so I am very busy and need financial support. I really appreciate if you help me $500 dollars per a meeting. Also, I prefer to use condoms when we date.
So I have a successful M&G with a lovely girl. She is down to meet up on Thursday for some fun. Problem is she still lives with her parents and I can't take her to my place. I don't want to shell out a fortune on an expensive hotel room.
Are there any private spa / jaccuzi places or something else that you guys use? Anywhere in the area between LAX and downtown would work. Can't be too ghetto though. Read the Notel thread, but haven't found anything worthwhile.
[QUOTE=Fendter;3025924]So I have a successful M&G with a lovely girl. She is down to meet up on Thursday for some fun. Problem is she still lives with her parents and I can't take her to my place. I don't want to shell out a fortune on an expensive hotel room.
Are there any private spa / jaccuzi places or something else that you guys use? Anywhere in the area between LAX and downtown would work. Can't be too ghetto though. Read the Notel thread, but haven't found anything worthwhile.[/QUOTE]One possibility might be the Crystal Inn and Suites on Imperial and Prairie. I know they advertise jacuzzi rooms, and it doesn't look ghetto from the outside. Don't know about rates as I have never used it.
[QUOTE=Fendter;3025908]Here is my latest convo with an Asian girl on SA. Her response is to my offer of $$ per date.
Her: I am a full time nursing student, so I am very busy and need financial support. I really appreciate if you help me $500 dollars per a meeting. Also, I prefer to use condoms when we date.[/QUOTE]Screenname?
I got an unexpected visit from my middle class freshman today. She is almost 19 now. When she dropped by she said that she missed me but wasn't coming over for sex, and that she was just passing through on her way to a friends for dinner. But she was wearing a micro mini length romper with no bra or panties on. You gotta love these girls. She really loves the games, and so do I. And 2 hours later she was on her way, a few O's and a $ richer.
MiaKnows
22 Female Encino, California, United States.
Never done this before.
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Why am I not believing that?
Never been there but the Snooty Fox has rooms with spa / jaccuzi. They are on Western Ave. And have rooms $29 for 3 hrs.
[QUOTE=Fendter;3025924]So I have a successful M&G with a lovely girl. She is down to meet up on Thursday for some fun. Problem is she still lives with her parents and I can't take her to my place. I don't want to shell out a fortune on an expensive hotel room.
Are there any private spa / jaccuzi places or something else that you guys use? Anywhere in the area between LAX and downtown would work. Can't be too ghetto though. Read the Notel thread, but haven't found anything worthwhile.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Livinitup;3026521]Never been there but the Snooty Fox has rooms with spa / jaccuzi. They are on Western Ave. And have rooms $29 for 3 hrs.[/QUOTE]Haven't been there is forever. But it was cool the last time I went. Like 3 years ago.
Had to pass this one up. What a shame. And what a body.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3026501]I got an unexpected visit from my middle class freshman today. She is almost 19 now. When she dropped by she said that she missed me but wasn't coming over for sex, and that she was just passing through on her way to a friends for dinner. But she was wearing a micro mini length romper with no bra or panties on. You gotta love these girls. She really loves the games, and so do I. And 2 hours later she was on her way, a few O's and a $ richer.[/QUOTE]Find her on SA? Or?
[QUOTE=Fendter;3025924]So I have a successful M&G with a lovely girl. She is down to meet up on Thursday for some fun. Problem is she still lives with her parents and I can't take her to my place. I don't want to shell out a fortune on an expensive hotel room.
Are there any private spa / jaccuzi places or something else that you guys use? Anywhere in the area between LAX and downtown would work. Can't be too ghetto though. Read the Notel thread, but haven't found anything worthwhile.[/QUOTE]Try the app beewake and see if it finds anything. Its reviewed on Richmond thread and it find hotels that rent rooms out for a few hours. New app but if you find one room its wort downloading. Its only good for larger cities and not alot of hotels participating right now.
[QUOTE=Livinitup;3026521]Never been there but the Snooty Fox has rooms with spa / jaccuzi. They are on Western Ave. And have rooms $29 for 3 hrs.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to Snooty Fox, they wouldn't let me rent a room unless I provided the I'd of the 2nd occupant. They didn't believe me when I said it was just me so I ended up going to the Mustang across the street.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3026518]MiaKnows
22 Female Encino, California, United States.
Never done this before.
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Why am I not believing that?[/QUOTE]Could it be the tatts? Maybe the lingerie?
[QUOTE=Marlowe;3027381]Could it be the tatts? Maybe the lingerie?[/QUOTE]IDK. But she messaged me again. I actually would love to see this girl for a $. And she lives nearby.
[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;3026581]Find her on SA? Or?[/QUOTE]I only use SA these days, and for about the last year now.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3025429]I am going to meet this cute 19 year old after work tomorrow. It took a few weeks to make the connection. But that's more the route I am going these days. Get to know them a little first. But at 5.3 and maybe 110 she is in the game. She agreed to the $ plus transportation cost. We are going to just do the M&G at my place.[/QUOTE]Met her today. She was a guaranteed NP first timer. And it was her first time for a lot of other things too (she loved all of it and can't wait to learn more). She has never dated a guy over 21, so a bit lacking in experience, but not in natural ability. We had a great time. She was heavier than her pics, but a chill sexy girl that I will see again. Total damage was $.2 which included her RT train ride from the IE. It was 2.5 hours travel time for her plus 3 hours with me (with about 1 of that in the FC). We talked a lot afterward. These girls are curious and want direction. At a $ they are rarely gonna be 9's. But what they lack in appearance they more than make up for in enthusiasm and a genuine desire to please. I actually had 3 pretty bad first time dates in a row before meeting her. You just never know when a good one is going to come along. And I told her honestly, if things keep progressing we are good for 2 to 10 more dates. At 7 to 10 dates I either end it or do at least 10 more. I mean a keeper doesn't mean keep her forever.
It's been a while since I posted, but I'm going to try and jump back in and participate. I'll start with the current stable.
TheSinger (CL) - Just turned 30, beautiful, smoking body, 2 kids, no allowance as we are in bf / gf status. It's non-exclusive for me. 5'7, 130 lbs, D-Cups. Real amateur singer, I even bought her songs on Amazon to be supportive.
IndianPrincess (SA) - Stunning 21 year old East Indian. No set allowance. She just wants good conversation and a good screwing. We meet once a week. She has been happy with whatever I gave. $50-$150, she has never complained. 5'2, with butt and Double Ds. Amazing mic skills and great sounds.
AirlineStewardess (SA) - Gorgeous 24 year old. Pretty smile, A cups, bubble butt, petite. We have done some making out, but not done the deed. She has her own place, no kids. Did not want to agree to an amount, wanted bf with someone who's not 100% available and can help out every and then. So far so good. The cash outlay has been minimum. Schedules are crazy now as I'm traveling and she travels every day during the week for work.
Co-EdHottie (SA) - 19, Petite with C-Cups and cute butt. Pretty, but could use some dental help, I'm going to work on that. We did the TiggaBounce first meeting. She got a $50 retail gift card and was happy as she likes online shopping. We'll only meet once or twice a month. She's in college to become a doctor. So she'll be in college for a while. Lives in dorms, so I have to always get a room. So meeting her will be limited. The sex was great, we spent over 4 hours together the first meeting.
CuteNLonely (SA) - 34 year old, Cute but not stuning, probably a 7 in looks, 7 in body, 10 in personality, own place, own car. 5'9, Triple D's. $500 per month, meeting as often as I can handle it. Even gave me a key within the first 2 weeks. (For the record, I have keys from 3 different women, but I rarely ever use them.).
All others are secondary and backup, but for the record.
MsMature (AFF) - 41 year old, single, never been married, no kids, has her own place. I've known her for years. No funds, she just loves the company. 5'11, Triple D's, medium to large build, very little fat.
4'9, big butt African (SA).
5'1 big boob petite African (SA).
BigTigg.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;3027635]It's been a while since I posted, but I'm going to try and jump back in and participate. I'll start with the current stable.
TheSinger (CL) - Just turned 30, beautiful, smoking body, 2 kids, no allowance as we are in bf / gf status. It's non-exclusive for me. 5'7, 130 lbs, D-Cups. Real amateur singer, I even bought her songs on Amazon to be supportive.
IndianPrincess (SA) - Stunning 21 year old East Indian. No set allowance. She just wants good conversation and a good screwing. We meet once a week. She has been happy with whatever I gave. $50-$150, she has never complained. 5'2, with butt and Double Ds. Amazing mic skills and great sounds.
AirlineStewardess (SA) - Gorgeous 24 year old. Pretty smile, A cups, bubble butt, petite. We have done some making out, but not done the deed. She has her own place, no kids. Did not want to agree to an amount, wanted bf with someone who's not 100% available and can help out every and then. So far so good. The cash outlay has been minimum. Schedules are crazy now as I'm traveling and she travels every day during the week for work.
Co-EdHottie (SA) - 19, Petite with C-Cups and cute butt. Pretty, but could use some dental help, I'm going to work on that. We did the TiggaBounce first meeting. She got a $50 retail gift card and was happy as she likes online shopping. We'll only meet once or twice a month. She's in college to become a doctor. So she'll be in college for a while. Lives in dorms, so I have to always get a room. So meeting her will be limited. The sex was great, we spent over 4 hours together the first meeting.
CuteNLonely (SA) - 34 year old, Cute but not stuning, probably a 7 in looks, 7 in body, 10 in personality, own place, own car. 5'9, Triple D's. $500 per month, meeting as often as I can handle it. Even gave me a key within the first 2 weeks. (For the record, I have keys from 3 different women, but I rarely ever use them.).
All others are secondary and backup, but for the record.
MsMature (AFF) - 41 year old, single, never been married, no kids, has her own place. I've known her for years. No funds, she just loves the company. 5'11, Triple D's, medium to large build, very little fat.
4'9, big butt African (SA).
5'1 big boob petite African (SA).
BigTigg.[/QUOTE]I almost got tired just reading this, much less doing it.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3027659]I almost got tired just reading this, much less doing it.[/QUOTE]Hollywood, I cannot compete with your historical high levels of success! But I try to do my part to keep the hobby relevant! LOL.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;3027670]Hollywood, I cannot compete with your historical high levels of success! But I try to do my part to keep the hobby relevant! LOL.[/QUOTE]I did just have a 3 day run... First time in a long time.
So I had another meet and greet with a 21 Asian girl from SA. Real life looks differed quite a bit from the one photoshopped profile pic. She wasn't ugly, but not remotely as cute as that profile pic. Overall she was average at best. Nail Polish peeling off, teeth crooked, flabby, etc. She had a nice and out going personality and after 40 min of talking we decided to meet up tomorrow for a "date". Of course she can't host because she lives with roommates. She was chill and never brought up any alloance amount.
So I start looking for rooms (thank you USG forum for suggestions) and txted her to confirm times. She texted me back available and finally brought up allowance talk. She told me that her last arrangement was 400 per date. I gave her my honest response what I was willing to give her $. 5 to $$. I also had to keep in mind that I still have to pay for the room. She declined and wished me a good life. Didn't even counter.
Are guys really paying those amounts. I can get a smoking hot k-girl for 250 all day long with msog. What gives?
On the bright side I have two leads at $. 5 per date. Wish me luck.
[QUOTE=Fendter;3027772]So I had another meet and greet with a 21 Asian girl from SA. Real life looks differed quite a bit from the one photoshopped profile pic. She wasn't ugly, but not remotely as cute as that profile pic. Overall she was average at best. Nail Polish peeling off, teeth crooked, flabby, etc. She had a nice and out going personality and after 40 min of talking we decided to meet up tomorrow for a "date". Of course she can't host because she lives with roommates. She was chill and never brought up any alloance amount.
So I start looking for rooms (thank you USG forum for suggestions) and txted her to confirm times. She texted me back available and finally brought up allowance talk. She told me that her last arrangement was 400 per date. I gave her my honest response what I was willing to give her $. 5 to $$. I also had to keep in mind that I still have to pay for the room. She declined and wished me a good life. Didn't even counter.
Are guys really paying those amounts. I can get a smoking hot k-girl for 250 all day long with msog. What gives?
On the bright side I have two leads at $. 5 per date. Wish me luck.[/QUOTE]Just keep at it. At $$ or even $.5 you will get what you are looking for. A hot girl with low mileage.
It depends on what you bring to the table in the looks, body and personality department. I always find it's best to be in your budget range and just let the rest go.
[QUOTE=Fendter;3027772]So I had another meet and greet with a 21 Asian girl from SA. Real life looks differed quite a bit from the one photoshopped profile pic. She wasn't ugly, but not remotely as cute as that profile pic. Overall she was average at best. Nail Polish peeling off, teeth crooked, flabby, etc. She had a nice and out going personality and after 40 min of talking we decided to meet up tomorrow for a "date". Of course she can't host because she lives with roommates. She was chill and never brought up any alloance amount.
So I start looking for rooms (thank you USG forum for suggestions) and txted her to confirm times. She texted me back available and finally brought up allowance talk. She told me that her last arrangement was 400 per date. I gave her my honest response what I was willing to give her $. 5 to $$. I also had to keep in mind that I still have to pay for the room. She declined and wished me a good life. Didn't even counter.
Are guys really paying those amounts. I can get a smoking hot k-girl for 250 all day long with msog. What gives?
On the bright side I have two leads at $. 5 per date. Wish me luck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fendter;3027772]So I had another meet and greet with a 21 Asian girl from SA. Real life looks differed quite a bit from the one photoshopped profile pic. She wasn't ugly, but not remotely as cute as that profile pic. Overall she was average at best. Nail Polish peeling off, teeth crooked, flabby, etc. She had a nice and out going personality and after 40 min of talking we decided to meet up tomorrow for a "date". Of course she can't host because she lives with roommates. She was chill and never brought up any alloance amount.
So I start looking for rooms (thank you USG forum for suggestions) and txted her to confirm times. She texted me back available and finally brought up allowance talk. She told me that her last arrangement was 400 per date. I gave her my honest response what I was willing to give her $. 5 to $$. I also had to keep in mind that I still have to pay for the room. She declined and wished me a good life. Didn't even counter.
Are guys really paying those amounts. I can get a smoking hot k-girl for 250 all day long with msog. What gives?
On the bright side I have two leads at $. 5 per date. Wish me luck.[/QUOTE]There are always guys that way over pay. But many of those times they are experiencing GFE in and out of the bedroom, overnite visits, travel and just a general feeling of not being in a transaction relationship (which of course is BS). My very average looking new pinay friend was getting 5 bills a date and she is now up to a G a date. That requires about 2 days out of her months it requires travel and an overnite. But never worry about what other people do or don't do. Stay the course and you will find your groove. Kinda what BT said.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3028184]There are always guys that way over pay. But many of those times they are experiencing GFE in and out of the bedroom, overnite visits, travel and just a general feeling of not being in a transaction relationship (which of course is BS). My very average looking new pinay friend was getting 5 bills a date and she is now up to a G a date. That requires about 2 days out of her months it requires travel and an overnite. But never worry about what other people do or don't do. Stay the course and you will find your groove. Kinda what BT said.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. Everyone situation is different. I'm married with daytime / weekday freedom only. I don't have the time or need for overnight stays or candlelight dinners. I have a thing for Asian flavored girls so my focus really revolves around them. I currently have a good setup with one of the CeeVee girls that I see 1-2/ per week. She texts me all the time asking for advice on personal matters and it is turning somewhat into a SD / SB relationship but I know that she sees a lot of guys to pay for a expensive lifestyle. I pay her for 30 min, but usually stay for 2 hrs.
I'm actually a good looking guy with an outgoing personality who could get civilian dates with attractive girls, but being married won't allow for that. I learned my lesson by letting an Asian coworker get too close to me. After a nice BBBJCIM during lunch break she wouldn't leave me alone and insisted on going out on long dates and spending extensive time with her. I obviously could do that due to my wife asking questions. Luckily she got fired 4 weeks later, but a big lesson learned.
I've been mongering in the US, Germany and China for the past 25 years, but venturing into the SD / SB world is still new to me.
[QUOTE=Fendter;3028219]You are absolutely right. Everyone situation is different. I'm married with daytime / weekday freedom only. I don't have the time or need for overnight stays or candlelight dinners. I have a thing for Asian flavored girls so my focus really revolves around them. I currently have a good setup with one of the CeeVee girls that I see 1-2/ per week. She texts me all the time asking for advice on personal matters and it is turning somewhat into a SD / SB relationship but I know that she sees a lot of guys to pay for a expensive lifestyle. I pay her for 30 min, but usually stay for 2 hrs.
I'm actually a good looking guy with an outgoing personality who could get civilian dates with attractive girls, but being married won't allow for that. I learned my lesson by letting an Asian coworker get too close to me. After a nice BBBJCIM during lunch break she wouldn't leave me alone and insisted on going out on long dates and spending extensive time with her. I obviously could do that due to my wife asking questions. Luckily she got fired 4 weeks later, but a big lesson learned.
I've been mongering in the US, Germany and China for the past 25 years, but venturing into the SD / SB world is still new to me.[/QUOTE]I rarely partake in traditional mongering (except for the SA UTR's), but my understanding is that you are paying them to be on a strict schedule and to leave at a specific time.
The problem (if we can call it that) is that the lines between sugaring and civi dating can get blurred. I won't and don't civi date for the very reason that I want the control and I want them to leave (when I want them to leave). So my advice to me is to never civi date, never let an SB think she is irreplaceable, and know that all good things come to end. Am I open to a semi-traditional GF? I am, but I am far too needy for any girl and my expectations would be totally unrealistic, so I don't get my hopes up or my dreams shattered. And I think there are a lot of guys like me. They have different girls for different needs. If they could combine 5 or 6 of them into one perfect girl then everything would be fine. But thats not likely to happen in this universe.
And a guys looks do have an impact on their sugaring success (as well as personality and good manners), but there is always a path to get your individual needs met one way or another. But to ever think of mongering or sugaring as somehow a defect of character when juxtaposed to being able to score in the civi market, I just LMFAO.
I've been asked by a number of people what I have in my profile and for help getting attention on SB websites. So I thought it best to just post it here. I've had two main profiles over the years and there were a few constant themes that women have complimented me on with examples.
In your profile, make sure it hits the following areas:
1. Be engaging and funny-- "Not only can I keep a secret, tie my shoes and chew gum at the same, eat with all of my (god-given) brushed teeth, entice you with my smile and faint scent of cologne. ".
2. Be specific with what you are looking for from her and what you bring to the table without using numerical expressions-- (meet twice a week, travel every now and then. Someone who's fun to be around, no drama with passion and has a little 007 street smarts, I cover all expenses and you will be taken care of in and outside of the bedroom).
3. Appeal to their mind and frustrations -- "It's time out for one-sided relationships and imbalanced expectations. It's time that you spent your time with someone who appreciates you, your faults, your strengths, your insecurities and your loyalty. ".
4. Downplay when appropriate / show humility but confidence -- "Ok, I'm not 6'2, but I have a big. Personality and I suck in my stomach really well".
5. Show you are not desperate, have some guile with guidelines - "I have no problem waiting for the right one and skipping those who can't even get gas to meet me at the date or have immediate eviction needs".
6. Encourage them to take initiative with some homework -So hit me up if I've piqued your interest and give me at least two reasons why you think we'll be a great fit".
Then.
Actively search and seek out POTS.
Be flirtatious without being crude and dirty old man "wow your pictures had a few thoughts run through my mind, but the relationship is too new to share those thoughts just yet, LOL".
Be engaging via email and move to texting as soon as possible.
Have pics to share. Via text only. Limit it to 3 and remind them that you are married (if appropriate) so you just use that to make sure everyone is happy with what they see.
Do not send dic pics! Don't ask for pics after the first 3 or 4 (until after you have met), make sure to get a full body pic.
*Super Important*.
Bring small gifts in a gift bag to the first date. Get your pattern down for what's in the bag, but include a Thank You card with about $40-$50 visa gift card inside. You can say it's for gas, etc. Remember they are looking for someone financially healthy, so dropping $50 for a M&G goes a long way. Especially since there are not any sexual expectations. Spending a little upfront will get you way more down the road.
Compliment in as many ways as possible the entire relationship. Even slide them in during conversation "Well, maybe we are getting such good service because they see how pretty you are and think you are famous or something (don't forget to laugh)".
This has worked wonders for me, "I've been told over and over, you make me feel so beautiful and special". That is always a sign that I've been successful.
BigTigg.
[QUOTE=Fendter;3027772]So I had another meet and greet with a 21 Asian girl from SA. Real life looks differed quite a bit from the one photoshopped profile pic. She wasn't ugly, but not remotely as cute as that profile pic. Overall she was average at best. Nail Polish peeling off, teeth crooked, flabby, etc. She had a nice and out going personality and after 40 min of talking we decided to meet up tomorrow for a "date". Of course she can't host because she lives with roommates. She was chill and never brought up any alloance amount.
So I start looking for rooms (thank you USG forum for suggestions) and txted her to confirm times. She texted me back available and finally brought up allowance talk. She told me that her last arrangement was 400 per date. I gave her my honest response what I was willing to give her $. 5 to $$. I also had to keep in mind that I still have to pay for the room. She declined and wished me a good life. Didn't even counter.
Are guys really paying those amounts. I can get a smoking hot k-girl for 250 all day long with msog. What gives?
On the bright side I have two leads at $. 5 per date. Wish me luck.[/QUOTE]You also have to remember that the rates vary by race. It's sad and probably a little racist, but it's true. Asian-American and white girls are generally more desirable by guys on average and thus get a higher rate. Black girls probably get the lowest rate. If you read all the stories here, you can start to see this pattern very clearly.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;3028524]I've been asked by a number of people what I have in my profile and for help getting attention on SB websites. So I thought it best to just post it here.
BigTigg.[/QUOTE]This is definitely a plan for success. And certain things are always going to work. But the first thing to always remember is that most guys are assholes. And if you're an asshole (and like being an asshole) you can still sugar, you are just going to have to pay a lot more to do it.
But humor, genuine respect, humilty, matter of factness (if that's a word) and offering whatever level of gerorosity you can honestly afford will always serve you well.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3028561]This is definitely a plan for success. And certain things are always going to work. But the first thing to always remember is that most guys are assholes. And if you're an asshole (and like being an asshole) you can still sugar, you are just going to have to pay a lot more to do it.
But humor, genuine respect, humilty, matter of factness (if that's a word) and offering whatever level of gerorosity you can honestly afford will always serve you well.[/QUOTE]Agree Wholeheartedly!
I have to say that since I changed my SA profile, in which I made my intentions very very direct, I have been getting some great replies. And from some really nice looking young ladies. Their profiles are ones I may have passed up before. About half are the ones I expect. But the other half are from really sweet looking, young and curious girls I may have just ignored before. Many with the higher expectation amounts that many times turn me off to even messaging them.