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[QUOTE=Markssmrk;4037277]Been trying to see her for the better part of a week now. Flaky is an understatement. I drove to her location and she went silent. Texts me back 30 min after our set time and says I'll have to wait longer. She has new ads up and obviously I can't tell you because I haven't seen her but from the pics she looks like she's using heavily and one pic has what appears to be a boyfriend in it so who knows what's going on. It's a shame I've been looking for an affordable young BJ girl. They're hard to come by now.[/QUOTE]She definitely has a boyfriend. I setup a time to meet up with her, drove out and she went silent on me once I got to the parking lot. I waited around a bit to see if she'd text me back but I saw her and her boyfriend walking to the QT nearby together. She looked a bit cracked out but that doesn't stop me from thinking she's kinda cute. The boyfriend is definitely with her though.

[QUOTE=OnPorpoise;4073927]She definitely has a boyfriend. I setup a time to meet up with her, drove out and she went silent on me once I got to the parking lot. I waited around a bit to see if she'd text me back but I saw her and her boyfriend walking to the QT nearby together. She looked a bit cracked out but that doesn't stop me from thinking she's kinda cute. The boyfriend is definitely with her though.[/QUOTE]Thought I'd add to this. There is definitely someone living with her. I had no knowledge of this guy until after. We both walked out of the room together and I made awkward eye contact with a guy on the lower floor. She kinda laughed and then said that was her friend, and that he sticks around in the even shit goes down. I'm new to this game, but is this normal? I've encountered it often.

Saw this provider this week:

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/27587418/Headache[/URL]#.

Overall a pretty boring experience. Texted her about an hour ahead of time and she gave me directions to her place. It's a trailer in a small trailer park on alma school and main.

The pictures of her are accurate but she has gained some weight since taking them.

Got inside the trailer and its clean and tidy inside. Placed the donation on a table and she told me to get comfortable.

I dreamed of a very mechanical bbj. Like, same pace, no adjusting time or positions levels of mechanical. After about 15 of struggling I finally cim. She gave a paper towel to clean up as she rushed to the bathroom to spit and brush her teeth. I woke up and left.

Overall pretty mediocre for. 75 hh.

Hello, can some one help with with any Indian girl contact. Can't find any one on websites.

Thank you so much in advance.

[QUOTE=LikeLinus14;4072996]Damn. Sorry to hear about the trouble with her. I've read a few bad things about her but I actually took the plunge a few weeks ago. Thought I'd follow up and share my experience since I initially asked about her.

She definitely is not punctual. She made me wait over an hour to see her. She talked about needing to get ready and clean her room. I stayed patient. I really wanted to see her, she has a nice tight body I really liked. An hour later, I started to dream.

I got inside and she was still taking her time getting ready. She told me to put the cash on the table. Said she usually ask 2. But took 1.2 since she made me wait. We made conversation for a bit until we were ready. I dreamt she went straight for a BBJ. It was amazing. She made cute little noises too as she went at it. I couldn't keep my hands off her tight little body. Not the softest skin in the world but nothing gross. She undressed throughout the process as I explored her body. She's nice and submissive too. I had one handful of hair and another hand around her neck (safely of course) and she did so good! When I had enough, on went a cover and she rode the stallion. Good stuff. She moaned a lot and she was tight. Like really tight. I flipped her over on her back, and went to town on her. She's so small, I was afraid to hurt her but she took a good pounding. I had one leg lifted over my shoulder and my hand still around her neck. It was incredibly hot. I couldn't take it anymore and blew in the cover. After that, we got dressed and chatted a bit before being on our way.

All in all, she's a total sweetheart. She was so friendly and easy to talk to. Great BJ and sex. Super tight body and even tighter kitty.

I'd say my only cons were:

1. I had to wait a while.

2. My clothes smelled like cigs when I got home. Lucky for me, I had my place to myself that week. Smell washed out after a normal wash so it wasn't terrible. But definitely noticeable.

All in all, I'd say patience is a virtue with her, she may not be worth to most though. Personally, I'd like to see her again in hopes of another good experience. Hope this helps anyone else wondering about her.[/QUOTE]Finally saw her. Your review motivated me. Long story short, it was a trash experience and I'll never see her again. I decided to clear out a whole night in order to wait around for her inevitable tardiness. And I needed the entire night. From the initial text to set up our meeting to when I left her room was about 5 hours in total. It was mostly due to her taking forever to respond to messages. She responds to my first text at about 10 pm I didn't see her until after 2:30 am. I first get there at our agreed on time and she goes silent. I wait about 15 min and I text 3 times and no response. I leave and 10 min after I leave she texts back saying she went to the store and just got back. Why would you leave when you know you have someone coming? The review had me optimistic so I turned around and went back to see her. I should have just went home. First thing the motel she's at is terrible. There clearly is a lot of shady activity going on there. I get to the motel and it's busy like it's the middle of the day, people yelling from rooms down to the parking lot, cars coming in and out of the lot. When I was walking up to her room a guy tried to sell me coke. I don't see the boyfriend but she's clearly living out of hotel rooms. She had a ton of clothes in there. She looked just like the pictures, seeing her in person just gives you more detail. All the signs of a user, bad skin with bruises and cuts. But I was thinking with the little head so I went through with it. I got a lazy resistant BBBJ. She wouldn't go very far down, tried to guide her head and she would push back. She clearly wanted me out quick so I popped and left. Never again. Maybe I caught her at a bad time but it was bad enough for me not to try again. She wants $. 2 for a qv I got her to. 8 she's not even worth. 6. Also the cigarette smell that gets on your clothes in overwhelming I had to ride home with the windows down and wash my clothes as soon as I got home.

[QUOTE=Markssmrk;4078504]Finally saw her. Your review motivated me. Long story short, it was a trash experience and I'll never see her again. I decided to clear out a whole night in order to wait around for her inevitable tardiness. And I needed the entire night. From the initial text to set up our meeting to when I left her room was about 5 hours in total. It was mostly due to her taking forever to respond to messages. She responds to my first text at about 10 pm I didn't see her until after 2:30 am. I first get there at our agreed on time and she goes silent. I wait about 15 min and I text 3 times and no response. I leave and 10 min after I leave she texts back saying she went to the store and just got back. Why would you leave when you know you have someone coming? The review had me optimistic so I turned around and went back to see her. I should have just went home. First thing the motel she's at is terrible. There clearly is a lot of shady activity going on there. I get to the motel and it's busy like it's the middle of the day, people yelling from rooms down to the parking lot, cars coming in and out of the lot. When I was walking up to her room a guy tried to sell me coke. I don't see the boyfriend but she's clearly living out of hotel rooms. She had a ton of clothes in there. She looked just like the pictures, seeing her in person just gives you more detail. All the signs of a user, bad skin with bruises and cuts. But I was thinking with the little head so I went through with it. I got a lazy resistant BBBJ. She wouldn't go very far down, tried to guide her head and she would push back. She clearly wanted me out quick so I popped and left. Never again. Maybe I caught her at a bad time but it was bad enough for me not to try again. She wants $. 2 for a qv I got her to. 8 she's not even worth. 6. Also the cigarette smell that gets on your clothes in overwhelming I had to ride home with the windows down and wash my clothes as soon as I got home.[/QUOTE]That's really unfortunate. Sorry about that, dude. You've kinda inspired me NOT to go back. I keep hearing all these bad things, very similar to your report, that it makes me feel like I caught her on an abnormally good day. Maybe she had been dry on her habit for a while and was inspired to perform or something? LOL.

Anyway, sorry again about the shit experience. Hope the next ones are better.

I'm sitting here thinking about how bad the hobby has become over time. I got into this 11 years ago and seemed to be so much different. I was thinking about how bad and unreliable the girls are now and asked myself who is the blame? I really believe it is us men. We control everything and let it get this way.

1) We set the market, not the women. These women forget how much money they really are getting. Most are rushing us out, late or arent there, wasting time and gas for us. They all have the same rates, 120 hh, 200 hr. It seems. You have 5's (looks scale) commanding prices of the 8's and 9's. Stop overpaying. Some of us fall in love and overpay for these women, then they expect way more. Most are not single moms, which I can understand wanting to help. A lot are junkies or working for a pimp and all we are doing is paying more money to the men controlling these women. Most are bad businesswomen and we help them by paying outrages prices that should be commanded in New York, Chicago, Miami, Las Vegas, etc. I had a girl once quote me a 275 rate staying at budget motel that's $40 a night off I-17. I chuckled, she acted like she was staying at the Ritz Carlton. We get there and don't care if the room is a mess and filthy, if the girl has track marks all over their arms and body, or if she had us wait in the parking lot for 20 min or even worse, we leave and they call us back 30 min later. I'm guilty of this too. I went back and saw a woman 3 times in a night, but the 3rd time she gave me a free service after she had flaked 2 times earlier. Now she was only 4 miles from me so it wasnt that much time lost, but I should've never went back after the first time. At least she made it right. I had another girl I had seen 2 years ago with affordable rates just tell me that she is $250 an hour now. I laughed cause she didn't know we had seen each other before. Then this same girl was needing help getting a room. Commanding those rates but can't pay for a room when she needs one to work? Come on now.

2) All of us seeking BBFS from this girls on the first "date". This is why they are so STD infected and we are just passing it around to all of us. Shouldn't we be protecting each other. Yes BBFS feels better, but if a women lets every man that pay her do that right away, shouldn't that worry you. She can't possibly be checking test results from everyone all the time.

3) Be on time and force them to be on time. If they arent ready and come up with the same story time and time again. Leave! Get tired of reading the "went to the store excuse" or "my phone went dead" or "my phone was on silent". If we want them to change, then leave. Loss of money will have these women start being better about it. How do they not check their phone if they are expecting a client or leave when they know we are on the way. It's no respect for our time they are showing and we let it happen.

4) We have to stop writing reviews with our feelings. Write what is truth. I once read a review from a man that stated, he didn't connect at all with her and wouldn't see her again, BUT that she was a good provider and didn't do anything wrong. He was 100% honest in his review. We have men writing fake reviews, good or bad, and it throws off everything. Be honest with your reviews, that way the money goes to the good providers instead of the bad ones. I read over and over how a girl is a horrible provider, yet we all keep going to see her after someone tried to help us. All the new girls coming into the game are learning from these bad ones. I had one tell me one time she doesn't care about reviews, or being on time, or if she is a bad provider, cause men will keep paying her. I can't believe men are still giving her money. Guys getting robbed over and over by the same woman, why? If we stop seeing her, she will move away and one less bad provider to choose from.

Let's start making these women become better providers and offer better experiences for us all!

[QUOTE=Markssmrk;4078504]Finally saw her. Your review motivated me. Long story short, it was a trash experience and I'll never see her again. I decided to clear out a whole night in order to wait around for her inevitable tardiness. And I needed the entire night. From the initial text to set up our meeting to when I left her room was about 5 hours in total. It was mostly due to her taking forever to respond to messages. She responds to my first text at about 10 pm I didn't see her until after 2:30 am. I first get there at our agreed on time and she goes silent. I wait about 15 min and I text 3 times and no response. I leave and 10 min after I leave she texts back saying she went to the store and just got back. Why would you leave when you know you have someone coming? The review had me optimistic so I turned around and went back to see her. I should have just went home. First thing the motel she's at is terrible. There clearly is a lot of shady activity going on there. I get to the motel and it's busy like it's the middle of the day, people yelling from rooms down to the parking lot, cars coming in and out of the lot. When I was walking up to her room a guy tried to sell me coke. I don't see the boyfriend but she's clearly living out of hotel rooms. She had a ton of clothes in there. She looked just like the pictures, seeing her in person just gives you more detail. All the signs of a user, bad skin with bruises and cuts. But I was thinking with the little head so I went through with it. I got a lazy resistant BBBJ. She wouldn't go very far down, tried to guide her head and she would push back. She clearly wanted me out quick so I popped and left. Never again. Maybe I caught her at a bad time but it was bad enough for me not to try again. She wants $. 2 for a qv I got her to. 8 she's not even worth. 6. Also the cigarette smell that gets on your clothes in overwhelming I had to ride home with the windows down and wash my clothes as soon as I got home.[/QUOTE]Yeah I pretty much had the same NOT so hot experience. Lot of signs of hard drug use and she was ok but not worth a return. Plus spent about half a Saturday between setting it up and and waiting on her. She does have a guy she told me about, said just for safety. I think he was outside on the landing when I left.

[QUOTE=JoKuz;4079682]Yeah I pretty much had the same NOT so hot experience. Lot of signs of hard drug use and she was ok but not worth a return. Plus spent about half a Saturday between setting it up and and waiting on her. She does have a guy she told me about, said just for safety. I think he was outside on the landing when I left.[/QUOTE]Now she's deleted her account on massage republic after my review went up. I'm betting she creates a new account in a few days so she can get rid of the bad reviews.

[QUOTE=JohnJjjj8888;4079558]I'm sitting here thinking about how bad the hobby has become over time. I got into this 11 years ago and seemed to be so much different. I was thinking about how bad and unreliable the girls are now and asked myself who is the blame? I really believe it is us men. We control everything and let it get this way.

1) We set the market, not the women. These women forget how much money they really are getting. Most are rushing us out, late or arent there, wasting time and gas for us. They all have the same rates, 120 hh, 200 hr. It seems. You have 5's (looks scale) commanding prices of the 8's and 9's. Stop overpaying. Some of us fall in love and overpay for these women, then they expect way more. Most are not single moms, which I can understand wanting to help. A lot are junkies or working for a pimp and all we are doing is paying more money to the men controlling these women. Most are bad businesswomen and we help them by paying outrages prices that should be commanded in New York, Chicago, Miami, Las Vegas, etc. I had a girl once quote me a 275 rate staying at budget motel that's $40 a night off I-17. I chuckled, she acted like she was staying at the Ritz Carlton. We get there and don't care if the room is a mess and filthy, if the girl has track marks all over their arms and body, or if she had us wait in the parking lot for 20 min or even worse, we leave and they call us back 30 min later. I'm guilty of this too. I went back and saw a woman 3 times in a night, but the 3rd time she gave me a free service after she had flaked 2 times earlier. Now she was only 4 miles from me so it wasnt that much time lost, but I should've never went back after the first time. At least she made it right. I had another girl I had seen 2 years ago with affordable rates just tell me that she is $250 an hour now. I laughed cause she didn't know we had seen each other before. Then this same girl was needing help getting a room. Commanding those rates but can't pay for a room when she needs one to work? Come on now.[/QUOTE]This is some of the best advice I've seen on any forum! You're spot on John J. I hope other hobby enthusiasts read and take heed of your advice. Let's 'Make Hobbying Great Again' LOL.

[QUOTE=JoshJosh;4080440]This is some of the best advice I've seen on any forum! You're spot on John J. I hope other hobby enthusiasts read and take heed of your advice. Let's 'Make Hobbying Great Again' LOL.[/QUOTE]John is 100% right. The rates out here are outrageous. Especially considering the cost of living out here. My home state is much more expensive and when I vistit home I see girls that do twice as much for half the price with a smile. The main problem is guys overpaying. I've noticed that specifically on the Phoenix board there's such a low level of activity and reviews but when ever I post a positive review about a new girl I literally get dozens of requests to share within a couple hours. Which means there's a ton of lurking and these are probably the guys overpaying. No one is sharing any useful info anymore. Just this weekend utr that had moved away was back in town for the holidays and asked for 500 up from our original 160 hhr price. That makes at least a half dozen girls who have pulled that this year on me. I have a rule where I don't see girls once they raise their initial prices after I've seen them at a lower price. We have the power to control their rates. These girls will still do this wheather they get 100 for a BJ or 60. Keep negotiating with them when they keep losing money they'll eventually lower the rate to what they can get. Most of them aren't that smart and are just trying to get away with what they can. Take a look at the providence and Massachusetts boards places that are literally a fraction the size of Phoenix with a higher cost of living and an exponentially better hobby for the hobbyist.

[QUOTE=Markssmrk;4080811]John is 100% right. The rates out here are outrageous. Especially considering the cost of living out here. My home state is much more expensive and when I vistit home I see girls that do twice as much for half the price with a smile. The main problem is guys overpaying. I've noticed that specifically on the Phoenix board there's such a low level of activity and reviews but when ever I post a positive review about a new girl I literally get dozens of requests to share within a couple hours. Which means there's a ton of lurking and these are probably the guys overpaying. No one is sharing any useful info anymore. Just this weekend utr that had moved away was back in town for the holidays and asked for 500 up from our original 160 hhr price. That makes at least a half dozen girls who have pulled that this year on me. I have a rule where I don't see girls once they raise their initial prices after I've seen them at a lower price. We have the power to control their rates. These girls will still do this wheather they get 100 for a BJ or 60. Keep negotiating with them when they keep losing money they'll eventually lower the rate to what they can get. Most of them aren't that smart and are just trying to get away with what they can. Take a look at the providence and Massachusetts boards places that are literally a fraction the size of Phoenix with a higher cost of living and an exponentially better hobby for the hobbyist.[/QUOTE]I was recently quoted $700, yes you read that right, Seven Hundred for a gal to drive less than an hour to come see me while out on a business trip. I'm not a cheap-ass and will gladly lay out 200 for a good time, and even 300 for special gals, but 700 was out of this world.

The way that I arrange dates now is to find three women in the same area in contact all of them. By the time I drive there I am usually down to one who will actually see me. The funny thing is that I will receive text messages hours later from escorts complaining I did not show up. So I was supposed to wait three or four hours after she said she was ready now? I have yet to be disappointed but it is a lot of work. I use Listcrawler and Massage Republic mostly to find ladies. I also do NOT pay for upgrades or pay more than they agreed to in their initial text message. I once had a girl say doggie-style was extra in the middle of a session and I just laughed. I was not trying to do anal but just fuck her.

I agree with everyone that prices are way up and services is way down. I honestly blame cell phones for changing the market place. I remember when landline phone were how we communicated and rarely did a lady flake on me. Now these ladies are getting text messages from a dozen guys at once.

[QUOTE=DesertRat;4080991] I honestly blame cell phones for changing the market place. I remember when landline phone were how we communicated and rarely did a lady flake on me. Now these ladies are getting text messages from a dozen guys at once.[/QUOTE]I blame us. I have a previous post where someone paid 220 for a hand job. That is insane, I would do it for HALF that! LOL.

There are board members right now that don't get the point of your post. They are seeing your "max" of 200 and thinking, "I will just pay 250 and have all the pussy". Fella's that is not helping. We have to all say no to these high prices. Offer 100 for hh and if they don't take it, hang up. Look at Payton. She has raised her prices and lowered her service. I had a gal that would see me for 80. I saw her 3 to 4 times a month! Her service was just what I wanted.

Gentlemen you can either be part of the change or you can part with more of your change.

[QUOTE=Markssmrk;4080811]John is 100% right. The rates out here are outrageous. Especially considering the cost of living out here. My home state is much more expensive and when I vistit home I see girls that do twice as much for half the price with a smile. The main problem is guys overpaying. I've noticed that specifically on the Phoenix board there's such a low level of activity and reviews but when ever I post a positive review about a new girl I literally get dozens of requests to share within a couple hours. Which means there's a ton of lurking and these are probably the guys overpaying. No one is sharing any useful info anymore. Just this weekend utr that had moved away was back in town for the holidays and asked for 500 up from our original 160 hhr price. That makes at least a half dozen girls who have pulled that this year on me. I have a rule where I don't see girls once they raise their initial prices after I've seen them at a lower price. We have the power to control their rates. These girls will still do this wheather they get 100 for a BJ or 60. Keep negotiating with them when they keep losing money they'll eventually lower the rate to what they can get. Most of them aren't that smart and are just trying to get away with what they can. Take a look at the providence and Massachusetts boards places that are literally a fraction the size of Phoenix with a higher cost of living and an exponentially better hobby for the hobbyist.[/QUOTE]Been checking out Phoenix area for an upcoming visit and couldn't figure out why: 1. Many of these providers were asking more than Vegas prices and 2. It seemed like the market was so small? Seen similar problems in other cities, but monger community in Orlando is very active and some drew a line in the sand with escorts, AMPs, and SW that's helped keep rates from skyrocketing. The more we communicate, the easier it will be to keep prices consistent or avoid the low-quality GPS providers altogether.

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