KAngels Discussion

[QUOTE=JasonShinamoto;5491750]First, I posted my last message by a simple mistake, I actually attempted to delete the message, but failed. Just seriously consider about what I was trying to say.

[URL]https://cseinstitute.org/court-of-appeals-of-the-state-of-washington-affirms-conviction-of-promoting-prostitution-against-charles-peters/promoting-prostitution-against-charles-peters/[/URL][/QUOTE]

May I ask then exactly what you ARE trying to say? That you believe GSL or KA is a BPD front? Or that a new investigation and sting op is underway? That seeing K-girls is risky? This is an anonymous site and I assume everyone accesses it with a VPN. Its ok to speak freely here. Its also OK to express opinions and ideas but its best to state up-front that such statements are our own gut feeling, theories, and/or fears and that we have no evidence to support them.

That link is an analysis of the WA State Supreme Courts decision to uphold the verdict in the 2016 Charles Peters case. BPD was indeed running a joint sting op with KCSO back then, funded by a charitable donation to King County from a religiously conservative widow who was pissed off because her wealthy late husband loved hookers.

This is 2021 and I was asking if you have any specific knowledge of a specific current investigation? Sure, it makes sense that if BPD went to the well 5 years ago, they'd return to that well if they could. Do I believe BPD is aware of the K-providers back in Bellevue? I'm confident they knew about them as soon as the rest of us did. But do I believe the revamped GSL is a popo honey trap? I do not believe that because there is no evidence to support that allegation.

Not trying to bust your balls, JS. Trying to do what all of us here should be doing: cutting through paranoia and rumors with legit intel -- whether that's about providers or LE.

Hobby on, brothers.

[QUOTE=AussieFury;5492100]May I ask then exactly what you ARE trying to say? That you believe GSL or KA is a BPD front? Or that a new investigation and sting op is underway? That seeing K-girls is risky? This is an anonymous site and I assume everyone accesses it with a VPN. Its ok to speak freely here. Its also OK to express opinions and ideas but its best to state up-front that such statements are our own gut feeling, theories, and/or fears and that we have no evidence to support them.

That link is an analysis of the WA State Supreme Courts decision to uphold the verdict in the 2016 Charles Peters case. BPD was indeed running a joint sting op with KCSO back then, funded by a charitable donation to King County from a religiously conservative widow who was pissed off because her wealthy late husband loved hookers.

This is 2021 and I was asking if you have any specific knowledge of a specific current investigation? Sure, it makes sense that if BPD went to the well 5 years ago, they'd return to that well if they could. Do I believe BPD is aware of the K-providers back in Bellevue? I'm confident they knew about them as soon as the rest of us did. But do I believe the revamped GSL is a popo honey trap? I do not believe that because there is no evidence to support that allegation.[/QUOTE]I have been going to GSL for some time. If it's a sting operation then they are moving quite slow and allowing sex in exchange for monetary remuneration.

I saw Tyler at GSL yesterday. She said she was from New York and moving to LA. She said this was her first visit to Seattle / Bellevue. She is cute. Not as cute as Ruby (my personal favorite from there, I saw her 3 times). She is only here thru Monday but said she would be back in the fall. BBFS. But no CIP. (YMMV? She did give a very good strong massage. Close to professional. Good reverse CG.

[QUOTE=AkFishGuy;5491785]I don't know about full meal but can say she was the best body rub provider I've ever seen. I think she's going to be back here soon and I would definitely recommend, especially with a lack of decent and reliable FS providers these days.[/QUOTE]Saw her today. She is cute and tiny and in great shape, but alas is not FS. 160 hr is HJ. 200 hr is body slide with HJ. She gave me more massage after the HJ. I re-asked about FS during and after the session just in case. But was still no. I'm usually pretty good at maximizing YMMV situations, but HJ was the max available to me today. I might try one more time, but I think she'll do just fine as a sensual unrushed FBSM-only girl like Lita. When clients taper off, maybe FS will open up.

So, on August 12,2021, at this moment, should I be more wary that KA and that other group (that has the girl offering BBFS for a 100 tip) could be a Poppo sting?

I wasn't afraid of KA a month ago, but today, I'm not so sure.

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[QUOTE=RexHughes;5493016]So, on August 12,2021, at this moment, should I be more wary that KA and that other group (that has the girl offering BBFS for a 100 tip) could be a Poppo sting?

I wasn't afraid of KA a month ago, but today, I'm not so sure.[/QUOTE]It's not a sting. That was an unsubstantiated rumor posted by someone being paranoid who invented that thought out of thin air.

[QUOTE=AussieFury;5493617]It's not a sting. That was an unsubstantiated rumor posted by someone being paranoid who invented that thought out of thin air.[/QUOTE]That said... the bigger risk with KA is that the girl will be older, fatter, less attractive, less attentive, and provide an overall lower level of enthusiasm and performance vs. traditional K-girls visits at those rates. THAT's the risk you're taking with KA these days.

Does anyone have any info on Blue, Jesi, or Janice? I feel like I have seen Janice before in their rotation and I know Blue's photos are fake. Any info is greatly appreciated, really don't want to get burned again like with Love earlier this year. Feel free to pm if you prefer.

[QUOTE=SaltyMeat;5493914]Does anyone have any info on Blue, Jesi, or Janice? I feel like I have seen Janice before in their rotation and I know Blue's photos are fake. Any info is greatly appreciated, really don't want to get burned again like with Love earlier this year. Feel free to pm if you prefer.[/QUOTE]I asked similar thing about 2 weeks ago (as below). Sadly, no positive answer so far.

Do we even have a decent / ok-ish bbfscip provider here?

OK so just simple / quick question here.

Do we currently have a decent (doesn't even have to be very good) bbfscip K-girl here in the greater Seattle area?

Or, do we even have a decent bbfscip "provider" here. ? (from what I've been reading in the Bareback Providers thread, the answer seems to be No. Sad.).

[QUOTE=HorseEngnine;5494642]I asked similar thing about 2 weeks ago (as below). Sadly, no positive answer so far.[/QUOTE]KA is now a $350/$450 per hour crapshoot. The photos are all fake, the names are used interchangeably (which makes review sites unreliable), and the looks, service, attitude, and menus of the providers is all over the map. It was great before the 2015 busts, then was a ghost town, things started to pick up a bit (kdollhouse, Yuri, Aria, GSL, kbeautypops, lollipop, even the ill-fated Luna house), but now it seems even GSL is struggling to attract young, pretty, sexy talent to the area. I believe the reason is a combination of many things. None of which matter because we don't have the collective power to change anything.

The best we can do is continue to share honest info here, highlight good and bad providers, and hope for the best.

[QUOTE]Do we even have a decent / ok-ish bbfscip provider here?[/QUOTE]I suppose that depends on your definitions of "decent" and "ok-ish. " I'm not a BBFS seeker, but it has been offered to me and I hear about the ladies that do. Certain providers at the FedWay AMPs will BBFS. Thai Mikki in Bellevue is down (she's gained weight lately, but I think she still looks good). Track the dedicated BBFS thread for the area for the best info. BBFS providers are not my specialty.

[QUOTE]OK so just simple / quick question here.

Do we currently have a decent (doesn't even have to be very good) bbfscip K-girl here in the greater Seattle area?[/QUOTE]You said "decent" but then said "doesn't even have to be very good" so again, I'm not sure what "decent" means to you. Most of the KA girls offer it. One current GSL girl offers it. I know of zero indy K-girls in the area. We used to get some great ones who travelled through, but I haven't seen them in a long while.

[QUOTE]Or, do we even have a decent bbfscip "provider" here. ? (from what I've been reading in the Bareback Providers thread, the answer seems to be No. Sad.).[/QUOTE]Again, you'll need to define what "decent" means to you, but that BBFS thread is where you'll get the best intel.

Good luck, hobby brother!

[QUOTE=JasonShinamoto;5491750]First, I posted my last message by a simple mistake, I actually attempted to delete the message, but failed. Just seriously consider about what I was trying to say.

[URL]https://cseinstitute.org/court-of-appeals-of-the-state-of-washington-affirms-conviction-of-promoting-prostitution-against-charles-peters/promoting-prostitution-against-charles-peters/[/URL][/QUOTE]The CSE Institute changed the Charlse Peters article's web address: [URL]https://cseinstitute.org/court-of-appeals-of-the-state-of-washington-affirms-conviction-of-promoting-prostitution-against-charles-peters/[/URL].

[QUOTE=JasonShinamoto;5495477]The CSE Institute changed the Charlse Peters article's web address: [URL]https://cseinstitute.org/court-of-appeals-of-the-state-of-washington-affirms-conviction-of-promoting-prostitution-against-charles-peters/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks, Jason. May I ask what would you have us believe about BPD and the K-Agencies in 2021 if we read this 2015 case? That's certainly how the "wind was blowing" in 2013-2015, but I have no idea what the current situation is in Bellevue in 2021 and unless you're undercover BPD, you don't either. None of us do.

If you're in a reading mood, try this: [URL]https://reason.com/2016/09/09/the-truth-about-us-sex-trafficking/[/URL].

[QUOTE=AussieFury;5495790]Thanks, Jason. May I ask what would you have us believe about BPD and the K-Agencies in 2021 if we read this 2015 case? That's certainly how the "wind was blowing" in 2013-2015, but I have no idea what the current situation is in Bellevue in 2021 and unless you're undercover BPD, you don't either. None of us do.

If you're in a reading mood, try this: [URL]https://reason.com/2016/09/09/the-truth-about-us-sex-trafficking/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Not sure if this is relevant, I met a woman on the nightline phone chat about 10 years ago and she turned out to be married to a BPD officer. She was getting him back for fucking everything in sight. She told me they all stick together and basically do what they want. I took her to a motel and fucked her. Not sure if that relates to thier current lineup.

I can deal with Poppo on Aurora Avenue.

But, I'm flat-out scared of what Bellevue Poppo can and will do.

Those familiar with the 2016 bust, know about the takedown at Pumphouse Grill. It's palpable, when I buy gas across the street at Chevron.

[QUOTE=AussieFury;5495790]Thanks, Jason. May I ask what would you have us believe about BPD and the K-Agencies in 2021 if we read this 2015 case? That's certainly how the "wind was blowing" in 2013-2015, but I have no idea what the current situation is in Bellevue in 2021 and unless you're undercover BPD, you don't either. None of us do.

If you're in a reading mood, try this: [URL]https://reason.com/2016/09/09/the-truth-about-us-sex-trafficking/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I've been trying to answer your question, and this happened: #710.

Whether KA and GSL merged or not? I see them as an unified entity; they are now under a group of BBFS seekers, probably lead by an old and drug addicted white man.

Whethet KA or GSL is undercover? I'm not interested; I never mentioned anything about GSL / KA turned into a sting operation because, as always, they're already among the hobbyists. You should know this as a common sense.

I have been warning, generally, all of you, but particularly all of the BBFS seekers, that, forming a group of sex buyers is the exact activity they have been waiting, and some of you will be victimized as Charles Peters. Unfortunately, we have a group of BBFS seekers, possibly lead by a charismatic figure, influencing both KA&GSL, even attempting to take over Chinese Judy / YoYo's network in both Old Bellevue and the North Seattle area.

Will see.