Utr

If you're out there lurking and reading this stuff I would love to hear your opinion lmao.

GR.

[QUOTE=Pbfla321;4734854]With that being said I wasn't there and don't every little detail. But from what I get is that Mitch went over his time and got upset when he was called out on it. So like she said it was your fault. And being that you went public with this and probably want to see her again. You owe her an apology.[/QUOTE]This is what I also understand from hearing both sides, mongers always try to go over on their time. This is probably a providers top 3 biggest pet peeve. Us mongers need to know that these providers would not be spending time with us unless we were paying them. If you think otherwise you are delusional. M1 L said this happened before and felt like she was being taken advantage of, just say you are sorry and that you will respect her time from here on out. Donate for an hour stay for an hour, if she wants you to stay longer she will ask you to stay or let you know that its ok to go over.

I hope he stays broke up with her, I wasn't impressed with her, and his reviews of the same 2 babes get stale. I like his reviews of new pussy! My 2 cents. Yd.

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4734102]Ho Lee Fuk! That didn't take long - you guys totally rock! I don't want to jinx myself by counting my chickens before they hatch but I think I'm going to have a very good end to this week after a less than stellar beginning.

Also, with regards to M1L, I've gotten several PMs from guys expressing concern about what happened between us, should they be concerned about what happened as it may or may not relate to them, do I still recommend her, etc. To be clear, I still whole-heartedly recommend Michele to OTHER mongers and she is still my co-ATF of all time along with Cassie. My issue with M1L is unique to me and should have no bearing whatsoever on anyone else. But there were things said between us that I don't care to share and have resulted in me deciding it's probably best to move on. That's all I'm gonna say about it. She is an amazing young woman and I will miss her dearly.

But as Elvis once said in Honolulu, it's over:
[URL]https://youtu.be/LVtgPQkdkMs[/URL]

SYM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YankeeDoodle;4735169]I hope he stays broke up with her, I wasn't impressed with her, and his reviews of the same 2 babes get stale. I like his reviews of new pussy! My 2 cents. Yd.[/QUOTE]Well thanks to PG I just made snap contact with some fresh new spinner pussy, so stay tuned! This girl is fucking unbelievably gorgeous, a true 10 (even hotter than the green-eyed blonde track star!) and I'm guessing only 19-21 yo based on the pics and snap vids I've seen. However, if I write a review PG might just kill me as she will be gobbled up by you guys for sure, LOL. Please do not PM me for her info - I need to seal the deal first!


SYM

[QUOTE=GoldenRod123;4735087]C5

If you're out there lurking and reading this stuff I would love to hear your opinion lmao.

GR.[/QUOTE]Now THAT would be fucking hilarious! Is he back from vacation yet or did it even start? I'm sure he'd say I'm a pussy-whipped GPS worshipper but the reality is I've never paid more than 200/ hour for any provider (with the exception of the aspiring porn star Scarlett Rose), and in M1L's case she's definitely worth every penny IMO. She can whip me with her pussy or anything else she'd like! LOL

SYM

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4735227]Well thanks to PG I just made snap contact with some fresh new spinner pussy, so stay tuned! This girl is fucking unbelievably gorgeous, a true 10 (even hotter than the green-eyed blonde track star!) and I'm guessing only 19-21 yo based on the pics and snap vids I've seen. However, if I write a review PG might just kill me as she will be gobbled up by you guys for sure, LOL. Please do not PM me for her info - I need to seal the deal first!


SYM[/QUOTE]LOL. I have no clue what your referencing. I know nothing.

Without question, the track star will be tough to replace.

I currently have 3 I am looking at a varsity spot, none are affiliated here.

PG.

[QUOTE=IIIII;4735091]This is what I also understand from hearing both sides, mongers always try to go over on their time. This is probably a providers top 3 biggest pet peeve. Us mongers need to know that these providers would not be spending time with us unless we were paying them. If you think otherwise you are delusional. M1 L said this happened before and felt like she was being taken advantage of, just say you are sorry and that you will respect her time from here on out. Donate for an hour stay for an hour, if she wants you to stay longer she will ask you to stay or let you know that its ok to go over.[/QUOTE]Like I said earlier, one of the factors (there were several) that led to our dispute is that there was some miscommunication and/or misunderstanding (at least on my part) as to when the actual dream started. In addition, there were several extenuating circumstances that I won't go into detail on that led to some confusion (again, at least on my part) that could easily have been avoided if I had better communicated my expectations to make sure they were fully aligned with hers. I know I made some assumptions and we all know what assuming does, LOL.

When she told me after the dream that she felt I was "taking advantage" of her it just felt like a punch to my stomach and really pissed me off because that was never my intention.and I've always tried to be very generous with her. But after watching her side of the story I can understand where she was coming from. I have spent a lot of enjoyable time with M1L off the clock (dinners, concerts, Disney visits, etc) but there is always a bright line with that sort of thing (e.g., let's go to Disney and when we get back we can do a session) compared to when you're in her bedroom just shooting the breeze about video games for example before the sex has started. Are you just hanging out or has the dream begun? An argument could be made both ways.

In my experience every provider is different when it comes to this issue (anyone who has seen Cassie with her lengthy pre-sex ritual can attest to that, LOL) and YMMV even with the same provider. That said, when meeting a provider one should probably assume court is in session just as soon as the front door opens as you suggest unless both parties have specified otherwise, and save any hanging out time for after the sex if the provider is so inclined to invite you to do so. I have no problem with that and that is my normal procedure when I first meet a new provider.

Anyways, I've reached out to Michele to apologize and I'm hopeful we can resolve things amicably so I can keep my time slot away from PG's greasy little fingers, LOL

SYM

[QUOTE=Mikaeles;4734810]I had one try that to me I did the whole I'm broke thing and she kept talking to me asked if I could take her to diner I said ya some place reasonable we decided on Outback total was 50 dollars I think for both of us. After diner we went back to her place where we got drunk and passed out I woke up in the morning to her sucking my dick I blew a huge load in her mouth. We became friends after that and she probably ended up getting more money out of me in the long run than she would've with dinners and just going to the beach a few times. She is no longer in the business moved out of state and I'm still friends with her on Facebook. It's funny how sometimes that works out. She was Helen lived out near Christmas if anyone remembers her. I even became friends with her boyfriend and had drinks with both of them. He hated leaving the house so I took her out to places and fucked her when I brought her home. Was a fun arrangement![/QUOTE]Yes, creating a trusting, long term arrangement will get more benefits for both in the long run IMO. My last UTR, back where I used to live, would always go the extra mile in downing time with me. She often came to my place and started there for hours just talking. She never wanted to go anywhere public, but she's meet me any time and anywhere that I needed relief. And the best part was building enough trust that BB was always a go.

In another arrangement I had, she was so about going public places and having play time. Music festivals, dinning, beer fest, clubs, and more. This gave her an opportunity to her out and enjoy things that she normally couldn't afford. Plus it was great company.

In both cases, I often have extra money when they were going through tough times, often never even meeting. That was worth it though. Al the trust, personal time and $$$ made for solid long term arrangements.

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4735227]Well thanks to PG I just made snap contact with some fresh new spinner pussy, so stay tuned! This girl is fucking unbelievably gorgeous, a true 10 (even hotter than the green-eyed blonde track star!) and I'm guessing only 19-21 yo based on the pics and snap vids I've seen. However, if I write a review PG might just kill me as she will be gobbled up by you guys for sure, LOL. Please do not PM me for her info - I need to seal the deal first!


SYM[/QUOTE]I was damn near salivating when reading about the green-eyed blonde track star, if the new chick is even hotter, she's one to look forward to. Though I suppose you'll still need to find out, assuming you can "seal the deal", if she's also full-on GFE / PSE like the track star! If she is, I'm calling "next" right now!

After speaking with her over a year ago I could see she was unstable. She sounded and looked like a nice lay but crazy as a box of cats.

Harry P.

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4733965]Michele1L (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road)

The bad news: It saddens me to write this, but this will more than likely be my final review of the mesmerizing Michele1L, my co-ATF. Without going into any details, we got in a verbal altercation tonight after our session and she said something to me that I don't think I could ever easily forgive her for, not that I think she would ever apologize to me anyways. I had to bite my tongue so hard on the way out her door that it literally started to bleed.

As I was driving home, "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" came on the radio and the following lyrics seemed apropos: "Maybe you'll get a replacement, there's plenty like me to be found."

Link to "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" by Elton John:
[URL]https://youtu.be/DDOL7iY8kfo[/URL]

The good news: One of you lucky mongers will presumably get my Monday night time slot. I saw Michele pretty much every Monday night for an hour at 9 or 10 pm for the last two years, so have at it boys.

If any of you guys have a hot young GFE UTR spinner that would like a new regular, please shoot me a PM and hook me up, thanks!

SYM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4733965]Michele1L (Goodbye Yellow Brick Road)

The bad news: It saddens me to write this, but this will more than likely be my final review of the mesmerizing Michele1L, my co-ATF. Without going into any details, we got in a verbal altercation tonight after our session and she said something to me that I don't think I could ever easily forgive her for, not that I think she would ever apologize to me anyways. I had to bite my tongue so hard on the way out her door that it literally started to bleed.

As I was driving home, "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" came on the radio and the following lyrics seemed apropos: "Maybe you'll get a replacement, there's plenty like me to be found."

Link to "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" by Elton John:
[URL]https://youtu.be/DDOL7iY8kfo[/URL]

The good news: One of you lucky mongers will presumably get my Monday night time slot. I saw Michele pretty much every Monday night for an hour at 9 or 10 pm for the last two years, so have at it boys.

If any of you guys have a hot young GFE UTR spinner that would like a new regular, please shoot me a PM and hook me up, thanks!

SYM[/QUOTE]Dam. I don't know what happened and to me it doesn't matter. I can only imagine the thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars you have given her. That should have counted for something and gotten you the benefit of the doubt in my opinion. That just further shows you that we are all just dollar signs to these b*s. If she said something that spiteful and you don't even think she thought enough of you that you deserved an apology, good riddance. And for the record, dinners, concerts, movies, et cetera, cost money also. Shouldn't your meter be running? Or at least filed in the memory bank. I say f* her and move on.

P.S. Can you tell the same thing recently happened to me, LOL. Hang in there Mitch. Something tells me with your flow you will be just fine.

[QUOTE=Pbfla321;4734854]I have to agree with gambini on that. After reading what DJ Mitch wrote. And then hearing M1 L out. Out of all the women I've ever seen it's always us going over time. I've never seen M1 L but after seeing this and recalling that someone said she was a clock watcher. It's got me thinking twice if she is. But I can only speak for myself. But she did have a point if you booked for a half hour and you take just over an hour regardless if your fucking or talking. You still went over your time. I hear this from a lot of providers which is why I think it turns them into clock watchers. But like I like to say there's three sides to 1) your side, 2) their side, an 3) the truth. With that being said I wasn't there and don't every little detail. But from what I get is that Mitch went over his time and got upset when he was called out on it. So like she said it was your fault. And being that you went public with this and probably want to see her again. You owe her an apology.[/QUOTE]Sadly a lot of providers are clock watchers and M1 L is no different. Initially she was lenient but the appt became too frequent and the scheduling became too conflicting with all the clients and I think that's when things went south. She was a great provider at first super into it but gradually became fixated on the numbers. Ill probably get heat for this but I did notice that she started to have her time clock adjusted 5-10 min in advance vs what the normal time would be and I even verified that on my phone. And sometimes before we even finished a sesh 10-15 min into it she would point and say were out of time and I verified on my phone to myself obviously that we had ample time. In addition, other providers will make you wait till lets say 2:30 pm on the dot if you had an appt then tell you their not ready and wait another 1-5 min but start the clock at 2:30 even tho you walked in 1-5 min later. M1 L and other providers have been guilty of that. Sadly this action is realistic even amongst the best providers. Granted we had some good times but these actions are a sign of disrespect and a big turn off from me along with ghosting. I'm not saying I've never gone over time because I have, but even if I did I actually paid the provider for that extra time before. If I set up an appt with my money and my time I shouldn't receive anything less. This BTW is a great way to discern which providers are going downhill in terms of service. Just about the only provider that never rushed you was Cassie, I mean this girl would spend half the day with you before even getting to the session LOL. However; I'm sure the relationship between Mitch and M1 L was different than an ordinary provider client relationship so as far as that's concerned and the parameters of it which none of us will know what's been discussed I probably have no right to voice my opinion on it. Because whether or not it was considered ordinary or unorthodox between those 2 is simply reliant based on whether or not they discussed the terms early on in the relationship, if not everything is a gray line open to interpretation and everyones side will be misconstrued. And at that point its to each is own.

Gentleman I'm only going to say this once, every provider. And this is a hard pill to swallow. Does not have your best interest at heart. They are out here to make a living, its a simple business transaction. Don't get hooked, don't get attached. Your heart will be broken. I've been lied to by pretty much all the best providers in Orlando and I mean the best. Providers will ghost you when you have everything scheduled but then you see a review from someone that met up with her the next day around the same time, and they hit you back with the "sorry I lost service, or "sorry I fell asleep" etc crappy excuse. (even tho they were busy seeing other clients). Providers have even told me in the past that they'll even skip an appt with a regular because they want to try someone new. They will double book sometimes triple book and choose the best option. Providers will clock watch even the best or try to rush you.

They will advertise certain pictures at certain angles and mention certain things but its the complete opposite when you meet them. They are natural born car salesman and you have no chance at winning this game because it is not a game that can be made public, and because they do this everyday, whether or not you want to believe it, they think your their bi&%h on their time. Granted some providers are super friendly and nice but the overall consensus is there. If a provider had to pick between sleeping outside in the dirt or screwing you over that decision has already been made. Don't get attached to the pussy theirs about 100 other guys swinging from that tree eating the same fruit and you aint special.

I'm not trying to defragment anyones reality on getting anymore providers. It is a good business to have and has kept society prospering from the get go. But business is business. Don't get that twisted. Make sure you always look for red flags make sure your always safe and just be cognizant that a provider no matter how much you think you know them will succumb to these actions either with you or someone else one way or another.

Oh my, sorry to hear about all this entertaining drama. I use to see ML1 until her rate jumped 50%, good for her, bad for me. I do still entertain the idea though. On the issue at hand, time or clock watching goes seven ways till Sunday and everyone has different idea how exactly it should work. A girl told me one of her clients thought an H was 60 minutes of getting busy and the five to 10 minutes of intro and the afterward time for getting cleaned up and dressing was on the house. She was explaining this to me because she was late for my apt. And it was in her apology, she rushed a shower etc. She also mentioned she wouldn't have not been so mad if the guy would have tipped her but the thought of me bouncing because of his doings really P O'd her. I typically only do hh dates and as long as it's not Cassie I'm done and have my clothes back on in 15 minutes. I do like to linger and chat or in ML1's case play with her cat, maybe have a smoke if the provider does while the swelling goes down. I hate being rushed out packing wood. I always tip what's fair or what I can and hopefully not piss anyone off. If I happen to leave at the 33 minute mark oh well I'm sorry and I'll be sure to work on that, LOL, you kids play nice now. SS96.

It is business and not personal. This business is transactional. That being said you can control how you treat people and how they treat you. Probably why I have a never repeat list and would never call list. Some of them have had glowing reviews from other members on here. Not saying there experiences didn't happen, I just didn't have the same experience.

Stay safe and have fun.

[QUOTE=Guckt0;4735685]Gentleman I'm only going to say this once, every provider. And this is a hard pill to swallow. Does not have your best interest at heart. They are out here to make a living, its a simple business transaction. Don't get hooked, don't get attached. Your heart will be broken. I've been lied to by pretty much all the best providers in Orlando and I mean the best. Providers will ghost you when you have everything scheduled but then you see a review from someone that met up with her the next day around the same time, and they hit you back with the "sorry I lost service, or "sorry I fell asleep" etc crappy excuse. (even tho they were busy seeing other clients). Providers have even told me in the past that they'll even skip an appt with a regular because they want to try someone new. They will double book sometimes triple book and choose the best option. Providers will clock watch even the best or try to rush you.

They will advertise certain pictures at certain angles and mention certain things but its the complete opposite when you meet them. They are natural born car salesman and you have no chance at winning this game because it is not a game that can be made public, and because they do this everyday, whether or not you want to believe it, they think your their bi&%h on their time. Granted some providers are super friendly and nice but the overall consensus is there. If a provider had to pick between sleeping outside in the dirt or screwing you over that decision has already been made. Don't get attached to the pussy theirs about 100 other guys swinging from that tree eating the same fruit and you aint special.

I'm not trying to defragment anyones reality on getting anymore providers. It is a good business to have and has kept society prospering from the get go. But business is business. Don't get that twisted. Make sure you always look for red flags make sure your always safe and just be cognizant that a provider no matter how much you think you know them will succumb to these actions either with you or someone else one way or another.[/QUOTE]