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[QUOTE=Shaved Cock]All:
Long time Senior Member from Phoenix ... I'll be up in Oak Brook on Monday and Tuesday nights on business and wondered if you have any AMP recommendations in the area. I'm not at all familiar with Chicago, so appreciate the help.
- SC
P.S. Anytime you are down in Phoenix PM me for recommendations too.[/QUOTE]
Check out the Lombard section. There is a lot of useful information there.
When you write a report we don't need to hear all the details of your personal experience, the reports that walk us through a dream seem to be good enough to get the picture. Too much detail is only a puff piece and most of us will skip the details anyway, I. E. You're trying to hard to impress. Forget about it.
There are several beauties that have been forced to go underground because of your LOUD mouths. Beauties like little Polish Anna from Diversey. She's a real keeper but because her reputation was headlined on this forum she went underground and will only see a handful of her respectful friends. Do you miss her. Those of you who knew her and didn't get a reconnecting call do and those of you who never met her are missing out.
There is a special lady, and she is a lady, around California up north who you may be doing great disservice to at this very moment and she may be the next to vanish. That would be a tragic.
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more, I screwed up in one of my first posts and regretted it. I'm about a year into the hobby now, fitting the category you mentioned Fblaster. In one of my first reports, as you know, I named a lady we all know and regretted it. In fact, the next time I saw her she called me out on it, told me how scared she is now, and I felt horrible about it. Being that I only get out once every couple of months or so, and had kept repeating with the same said MP for obvious reasons, I've had nothing to report. Plus, as recent posts have stated, and as I learned the hard way from our large-breasted friend, we all need to be careful about what we say here.
I have recently started posting again because of all of the recent complaints that nobody was contributing. I'm sure several other newbies like me decided to do the same thing, hence the rush of new posters.
Just my two cents, always good to be careful though. I will continue to report, albeit vaguely, whenever I do get out but I can't afford too often!
Made my 2nd trip to Latina women offering $40 for 4-hand advertising on craigslist under massage. They have moved to a new location. Outside is not so great but apartment was clean inside and had a professional table. Let me use shower afterwards. One lady, Daniella, was average to cute, tall and nice natural boobs. There was another short Mexican woman in the apt a little chubby perhaps but cute. She was leaving so I did not get her for my 2nd but instead got an older not so attractive woman. I figured for $10 extra I would let her do massage as well. Daniella actually tries to give a good massage. Not everyone will like her style as she strokes you hard and fast. On the flip, they tried to charge me more than last time but I negotiated $50 for both topless hj. I was told that cbj from both of them was available for $100. I'm sure I could get this down. SPOILER ALERT. This was my first 4 hand happy ending. Before I knew it, the older one had her finger up my ass which might not have been too bad but for fact that she had sharp nail that spoiled finish for me. I did not ask about fs but I get the feeling it can be had. Definitely would be better with just Danielle.
[QUOTE=Henrysmall]Well - I know I am someone that lurked on the forum for literally years without contributing - and I eventually saw it as my responsibility to contribute, particularly if I was ever to get the most benefit out of the site.
That said, I often find myself wondering what the purpose of the forum is at all since there is a constant undercurrent of opinion that looks very negatively on specific detailed reports.
On the other hand, the uselessly vague reports of "I went to a place and saw a person who was a 6 and left sort of happy" are utterly pointless.
This forum isn't particularly useful if it only amounts to a back-channel for 'Seniors' to PM each other intel.
These frustrations have been the primary reason I haven't participated actively here over all the years. Sorry for the rant.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
There is a fine line between giving enough information to be useful and not giving so much information that you put the provider at risk. Maybe this line just exists in my head, but that is my take on the issue. One could argue that the best way to protect your providers is to not mention them at all. But if that's the case, then we should be talking about shutting this board down. Personally, I think giving locations is fine as I expect providers to try to protect themselves and exercise caution on their end--they can't be busted if they don't offer anything illegal to the officer. But giving too many details can make it easier for LE to figure out how to gain the provider's confidence, and thus get that offer.
My first post on this board a few years back was about Lisunia Spa. I specifically did not report what you were supposed to say to get the special treatment. I was afraid that information would make it too easy for LE to bust them. I was able to find out how it worked on my own, and any other monger should have been able to do the same with a little patience. A couple of days later another person wrote a post explicitly explaining that you had to ask for a "VIP massage". I did not flame the guy since I was a newbie (I wish now that I had), but I was pretty pissed off that he did this. There were many posts about Lisunia's VIP massages after that, so I doubt that his single post made much of a difference. Nevertheless, the body of evidence available on this board almost certainly contributed to Lisunia's downfall.
If you doubt that LE reads these boards, take a look at this:
[url]http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_ac93a110-3fca-58fd-ac37-6c0dd6202306.html[/url]
One thing LE is good at is sharing tactics. If they were doing that in Madison, you can bet they are doing it pretty much everywhere. Note how the officer posted information on the board to establish credibility. F Blaster's point is well taken. As the senior members are becoming more stingy about posting public information, LE may be realizing that they need to be able to get info through PM--and the only way they will get that from the senior members is with a track record of postings.
I went to this place and Jxxx was my MT.
She is probably at her 35 with good tits. I saw her few times there.
She is always busy, looks like she got so many customers looking for her. I heard she complained to others about how busy and tired she is.
She was not complaining during the time. She smiled all the time when I asked her questions. Massage is more like rubbing, not like Thai massage....but she was good on my feet and legs.
She knows how and where to do. I usually prefer hard massage.
I still give her credits, probably 7 in my opinion.
It was my fisrt time with her. Because I am a repeat customer, she didnt even talk about tip after flip. I got a nude HE with sukcing her good tits and fingering. I left .6. I dont think she know how much I usaully tip to others.
You should asked any cute girl you like to be your MT.
The fat girl got my door fee. but still I asked for Judy.
I noticed they dont speak good English here.
I am glad you stick to your bottom line.
They tend to ask .6 for hj and $ for cbj, but i think .4 for nude massage,
.8 bbbj is possible.
[QUOTE=Horny Massage2]. None of the cute younger ladies were present. The place was empty. There were 4 women sitting on the couch. The one who went behind the counter and took my fee called for Judy to get up. I looked at her as she approached, and I also looked the other too on the couch, and then went along. I looked because if Judy was not to my liking, I would have asked for one of the other women. I was a bit surprise the one behind the counter actually called for one of them. With 4 present, I wondered why she did not ask me who I wanted???
Anyway, Judy and I go back for a halfway decent massage. On the flip, I'm thinking off with the top and lets get to work. She has other ideas. 1st she plays with the package as I rub her back side and hips. Now that I'm awake, she asks for a 60 tip. I said what - maybe .25 or .30 depending on how good the finish is. She get angry and says 60. I say no 25 or 30. Then I remind her I can go to Chinatown and get the finish for 20-30. Now she has this ugly look on her face and doesn't know what to do. She tries to tell me that 60 is normal. I of course disagree with her. So I said are you going to finish the massage or not. Her - how much? Me - 30. I remind her I can do this myself and keep the 30 for me! Her - ok, no touch. She moves my hand away (from her hips). I'm like WTF. I asked her if she is going to smile, and she flashes me a fake smile. I told her to forget it. I start to get dressed and she leaves to room.
I go out and she is talking crap with the other 3. She has the nerve to ask for a tip in front of them. I smile and reply no, you did not finish the massage. I tought of having one of the others sitting there go back with me and EARN a tip. Then she starts in about me going to Chinatown ...........
My points:
Stand your ground and use the big head and common sense.
(I tried to talk to her first, and make her realize we can do a finish at home)
Smile at your customers, and be nice, not rude.
* A tip is for services rendered (not upfront before a serivce)
* Smile and be nice (seems appropriate to repeat this one)
* Told her the same can be had just down the street at a lower rate
* Do not give your customer a hard time
* Be polite and professional (shows you are not being a jerk and leaves the door open for a future visit) Because the other one was definitely pretty (IMHO)
As with all of these places YMMV.
Stay safe and horny, HM2[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Henrysmall]Well - I know I am someone that lurked on the forum for literally years without contributing - and I eventually saw it as my responsibility to contribute, particularly if I was ever to get the most benefit out of the site.
That said, I often find myself wondering what the purpose of the forum is at all since there is a constant undercurrent of opinion that looks very negatively on specific detailed reports.
On the other hand, the uselessly vague reports of "I went to a place and saw a person who was a 6 and left sort of happy" are utterly pointless.
This forum isn't particularly useful if it only amounts to a back-channel for 'Seniors' to PM each other intel.
These frustrations have been the primary reason I haven't participated actively here over all the years. Sorry for the rant.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I'll try to keep this as short as I can.
It's simple. You don't need a lot of detail to find places to go. If anything you need to know what places to avoid so that you do not get ripped off or expect something that is not offered.
Long ago when I first started that is all the info that I needed and it worked out just fine. I knew what places to visit and even more how to show I was interested. I also picked up what the usual tip was for what service. That seems simple enough right?
So now I ask this and not at you directly. What the F*@k else do you guys need to know? Do you need detail to get off on? Are you just a young college kid with his friends just looking for nasty stuff to read on the internet? What's missing?
One more thing. Ever wonder about guys talking about their favorite places that are now gone? Why are they gone? One of many reasons is too much information. Being a traveler I have seen this happen here and all over the US. Guys online talking about their favorite places to great detail. Post after post of who to see. Within a year you get bust after bust and the place becomes a desert. Ask the guys in SF or the guys in LA and Inglewood CA. Ask the guys in NW Indy or Ohio. Even the guys here.
I was traveling out of town to a new area. I wanted to look for some fun so I when to that areas forum and started reading. Doing that I was able to find several locations to visit. all I needed was the name of where to go and if a good time could be had their. I also learned the going rate. There was not a bunch of info but I was able to put it together. I did NOT have to post a single meassage or send a single PM.
I couldn't believe my eyes. The had an area that was all about the sex trade. They had other places to visit as well but they did not blast details all over the net. Just enough info to get you there.
When I got how I sent their forum one message. "Thanks. I found all the info here by reading the forum. Had a great time."
Lisunia Spa was brought up recently and I started thinking about all the drama that happened on the forum just before it got busted. Remember Nino? Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I can't find his posts anymore and there were a lot of them. I found a ghost trail of members commenting on his posts but that's it. Maybe I'm being parinoid but my spidy sences are tingling a bit when something new is happening here.
Use to be some fine places around that are gone. Michigan City, Rockford, N W Ind, Chicago subs and Kankakee had afew good ones. Richton Park had a great one. All gone. I don't say much about the good ones but rather report bad ones. At least you know where not to go.
Barney
[QUOTE=Balishag]Lisunia Spa was brought up recently and I started thinking about all the drama that happened on the forum just before it got busted. Remember Nino? Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I can't find his posts anymore and there were a lot of them. I found a ghost trail of members commenting on his posts but that's it. Maybe I'm being parinoid but my spidy sences are tingling a bit when something new is happening here.[/QUOTE]Nino is still here. He changed his handle. He did seem to have alot of info though. Whats up Nino!
Report on the clip joints who do not give fair value. A also think that a recommendation can be made for those places that are willing to advertise there services and just stay within the the boundaries that they give in their ad.
How does this sound. I've been to Health and Acupuncture on Archer and Arch twice in the last month and the place is much cleaner than when it was the old Relax and Steam. Both MTs that worked on me were among the best, from a technical training point of view, that I've had right up there with Nancy at Senina. Today I was with Susan, sorry but I don't recall the other girl's name but she has been reviewed in the recent past.
Fellow mongers I must say that having enjoyed some of your Apartment AMP's I am thinking I was crazy to ever leave this city! Have seen too many good places closed down after in depth public reviews, but have to say that some of the $160 Asians are the best deal on the freakin planet! Please use caution but do enjoy! Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Rtr111]I beg for your indulgence in this report seeing that it is my first on this board. First a little bit about my experience. I've lived in Chicago for over 60 years and have learned the streets of the north side better than any of the current group of the boys in blue. If I had little notches in my belt for all of the girls I've experienced I'd have worn out many belts.
With that as my resume let me express my concern to some of you who are ignorant of the unwritten rules of the game that we play. As with the medical profession we are to do no harm, stay safe. If you find a beautiful lady that spent a little of her time with you wonderful but some details can only hurt her if you spell them out too clearly. Those of us who have paid our dues we can read between the lines. Experience is the best teacher.
When you write a report we don't need to hear all the details of your personal experience, the reports that walk us through a dream seem to be good enough to get the picture. Too much detail is only a puff piece and most of us will skip the details anyway, I. E. You're trying to hard to impress. Forget about it.
There are several beauties that have been forced to go underground because of your LOUD mouths. Beauties like little Polish Anna from Diversey. She's a real keeper but because her reputation was headlined on this forum she went underground and will only see a handful of her respectful friends. Do you miss her. Those of you who knew her and didn't get a reconnecting call do and those of you who never met her are missing out.
There is a special lady, and she is a lady, around California up north who you may be doing great disservice to at this very moment and she may be the next to vanish. That would be a tragic.
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]I agree, she is a beautiful woman that we all should have protected better! But I'm afraid its already too late. She told me that she is out of business because too many people are writing about her on the board. Too many posts with too much detail!
Just as an FYI. She does read this board. I posted about someone else at Bella's and she called me out on it and asked me not to post about her which I respectfuly agreed to because I enjoyed to time I spent with her and the funny coversations we would have.
[QUOTE=Rtr111]Report on the clip joints who do not give fair value. A also think that a recommendation can be made for those places that are willing to advertise there services and just stay within the the boundaries that they give in their ad.
How does this sound. I've been to Health and Acupuncture on Archer and Arch twice in the last month and the place is much cleaner than when it was the old Relax and Steam. Both MTs that worked on me were among the best, from a technical training point of view, that I've had right up there with Nancy at Senina. Today I was with Susan, sorry but I don't recall the other girl's name but she has been reviewed in the recent past.[/QUOTE]Beauties like little Polish Anna from Diversey. She's a real keeper but because her reputation was headlined on this forum she went underground.
You wright about Anny she was a keeper. I talked to her side kick Monica she told me shes getting married. Anny would not work with out her? I'll PM you.
I knew it was going to happen and it has. Cal/Touhy has been gettting to much traffic so yesterday upon trying to get one in before the disappearance would occur took a trip down. I have been there twice and this time when I made the appointment and got there euro was on extended leave. Took the other asian and all was well. Lesson: details should be had but no need to get all excited about something good and make it evident on the forum to the extent in the past. Mongers will get it ya know? We don't need the high details.
Be safe and Discreet
I was there (cali and touhi) again yesterday evening around 6 and saw something really weird. Again the same cops van was parked outside just across the street. A latino guy in his 40's came out of the massage place and got in the police van and drove away. The person was not in cops uniform. May be uncle Leo also needs massage sometime. I was just standing at the bus stop in front of the place.
Not sure what's going on? May be they have got legit.