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Just looked at Secret Benefits. It is exactly like sugar [URL]daddy.com[/URL].

Ok. Need some help with my sugaring game here. I have had a regular for a couple of years. I'm acting like a SD to her, but not so much the other way.

I have an account on SD, but did not put my picture there. I literally cannot get a girl to reply. Actually. 1. So. Any help here? I want this type of situation much more than a random hooker. But I'm seriously not getting it. So. Picture of your face on that site?

Do you jump right to arrangements or ease in? Do you have to be 6'5" and make $2 M. ? Help appreciated.

[QUOTE=Ash2225;6501993]Eager to connect, want 700 per.

Irenehere [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/413c2f22-0a7a-4ad8-af05-9e9a9751fd85[/URL].[/QUOTE]I give her 700 for a weekend of fun.

Blocked me so no link, was cool and DTF but wouldn't budge from 600.

Love wanted 600 easily dropped to 300, plus I paid for an Uber.

Went to dinner, had a fuck, sent her home won't repeat, but not unhappy on the night.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/012d1947-354b-4f2f-9c4f-641169631ca6[/URL]

Got my camel craving in, now just waiting on another first time date with a little MILF this morning, should be balls deep by 930 am!

I did not even try to talk her down, I did not like her short answers to my texts.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/65872e37-2c0f-40be-aac7-446e06567409[/URL]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;6502649]I did not even try to talk her down, I did not like her short answers to my texts.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/65872e37-2c0f-40be-aac7-446e06567409[/URL][/QUOTE]Fucked her twice in E, WA. Claimed to have been beat up by BF that went to Seattle and she moved out east. Decent body, big pussy lips, seems clean (I used a rubber although she said I could go raw if I paid for plan B LOL. Nope!!). 400 max!! Don't do six. Good kisser and nice eyes. She's good for a fuck and leave. An escort basically but a tad less transactional. Bit less cute that pics. She's likely back with Tyrone or manager. I don't know. She told me all her former gangster life stories. I despise the hood. Good for two easy fucks and she was on time and easy to set up with. I would not give out your personal info, and book a hotel. Just be safe with the hood rats.

400 (tops) you won't feel too bad about it. Long legs, decent ass.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;6502575]I give her 700 for a weekend of fun.[/QUOTE]For the weekend. Not bad.

[QUOTE=SouthOfVan;6502313]Just looked at Secret Benefits. It is exactly like sugar [URL]daddy.com[/URL].

Ok. Need some help with my sugaring game here. I have had a regular for a couple of years. I'm acting like a SD to her, but not so much the other way.

I have an account on SD, but did not put my picture there. I literally cannot get a girl to reply. Actually. 1. So. Any help here? I want this type of situation much more than a random hooker. But I'm seriously not getting it. So. Picture of your face on that site?

Do you jump right to arrangements or ease in? Do you have to be 6'5" and make $2 M. ? Help appreciated.[/QUOTE]That's what these women what you to think! That there's all these rich dudes chasing them around. No. Numbers would say less than 1% make over a million. And even less are over 6'5". Most of these girls will just use you as an ATM! Gen Z women are for sale by the evening. But you may find one that's long term. If you do cool shit (boats, cars,) bring her along if she's young and if she digs your world, tell her for a modest help we'll do fun shit together from time to time. You could even had a cool side chick (good luck). These girls don't understand the math. Most on SA are going to laugh at your offer and preach about their " worth. ". For the most part they are worth what a decent escort charges. 400-600 depending. I learned this the hard way but it killed the simp in me! I'm having more fun now! Men, they need us more than we need them. Women are children. LOL.

We are the prize. Funny how it changes when you act that way.

If only this were 1950. Haha.

Guys with money are targets. There are very few women out there worthy of what you've likely worked hard for.

Just my opinion.

With respect.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6501613]Some of us have game but are just fucking lazy and don't want to work that hard.

Civvy girls too often make you jump through a lot of hoops when you just want to unzip and drop trou and get it over with. And they know that by making you jump through those hoops you become invested and make multiple bad decisions.

I'm not paying them to stay, I'm paying them to leave.[/QUOTE]Yep! Game is dead. SA is for sex and a couple of laughs. Maybe hit the bar before and it feels less like a hooker, that's fun. Candle, music an hour of sex and " I'll see you around. ".

Women are for sale now.

[QUOTE=SouthOfVan;6502313]Ok. Need some help with my sugaring game here.[/QUOTE]So you are currently a regular for a SWer who you are treating like an SB and want something that looks a little more like a relationship because you aren't getting something (free social time? Emotional connection? First, SA seems to be the place over SB / SD.

Add your tinder pics, keep them private, and just share them in your first message. I've had a few long term (6 mo+) arrangements and both of them were completely aware they could be making much more as escorts with less time spent, had no emotional baggage about sugaring being SW, and just liked being able to be picky and treat it like dating. Kept them PPM without complaint because we only met a few times a month. Don't expect them to go do a bunch of shit they don't like doing, like taking the city party girl on a camping trip, but if you actually have common interests they are down.

You have to put dating app level of effort into finding these, the money just helps offset the fact that you are old, short, out of shape, and / or some other deficiency. It won't save you from being a creep, boring, or having absolutely zero social skills which is the impression an empty profile with no pictures gives off. Put some effort into your first message so they know you are serious, but don't just right into trying to "book" her by asking her to meet or sending your number. Again, treat it like matching on a dating app but drop some hints that show you aren't one of the idiots who think SA dating doesn't involve money. Just put in your profile what type of relationship you'd like to find yourself in.

You don't have to be worth $2 M but if you aren't giving them at least what you are giving your SW for an hour for a non-overnight SB meet you aren't going to be moving up the quality scale. And you aren't going to find many people interested in putting a lot of effort into the relationship if your budget is $1 K / mo because you just aren't having that much impact on their situation.

Wittymermaid424 from seeking. I can't post a link because I blocked her.

The conversation started out great. We talked on the phone for 45 minutes and really hit it off. We set up a meeting for the next day. 30 minutes later she text me asking for 3 because her phone was getting shut off. Plus she wanted me to send it to a friend's account because she was locked out of hers. Not once did she mention it during our conversation. In fact I mentioned all the cash app scammers that hit me up. I even thanked her for not doing that.

I just ignored her and went to bed. We talked the next day and I told her that was a shit move and get lost. She said sorry and really wanted to meet me. I told her if we met for coffee I would give her a little something for her troubles but it will only be in person. She agreed. Well two hours before we were to meet guess what. Can you send me some money. Good God really. I was going to meet her a mile from where she lived too.

Well I pulled the wad of cash out of my wallet took a pic and sent it with "your not getting any of this".

Man these gal are just so stupid and lazy. If you just want to scam guys at least put a little effort in it.

Long story short just another cash app scammer that doesn't want to meet.

[QUOTE=DilzParty;6503383]So you are currently a regular for a SWer who you are treating like an SB and want something that looks a little more like a relationship because you aren't getting something (free social time? Emotional connection? First, SA seems to be the place over SB / SD.

Add your tinder pics, keep them private, and just share them in your first message. I've had a few long term (6 mo+) arrangements and both of them were completely aware they could be making much more as escorts with less time spent, had no emotional baggage about sugaring being SW, and just liked being able to be picky and treat it like dating. Kept them PPM without complaint because we only met a few times a month. Don't expect them to go do a bunch of shit they don't like doing, like taking the city party girl on a camping trip, but if you actually have common interests they are down.

You have to put dating app level of effort into finding these, the money just helps offset the fact that you are old, short, out of shape, and / or some other deficiency. It won't save you from being a creep, boring, or having absolutely zero social skills which is the impression an empty profile with no pictures gives off. Put some effort into your first message so they know you are serious, but don't just right into trying to "book" her by asking her to meet or sending your number. Again, treat it like matching on a dating app but drop some hints that show you aren't one of the idiots who think SA dating doesn't involve money. Just put in your profile what type of relationship you'd like to find yourself in.

You don't have to be worth $2 M but if you aren't giving them at least what you are giving your SW for an hour for a non-overnight SB meet you aren't going to be moving up the quality scale. And you aren't going to find many people interested in putting a lot of effort into the relationship if your budget is $1 K / mo because you just aren't having that much impact on their situation.[/QUOTE]Generally agree except for the last part. If you're 1/2 way decent and got game, $1 K / mo is plenty. I currently got TWO SBs one 23 UW student and one 26 tech girl that I give each $1 K / mo for all I can eat and they host. I fuck each of them 2-3 x per week (not month). Think about it this way. The more desirable qualities you got, the less money you need to give. These girls are NOT pros and the truly young ones just want a few bucks to spend on partying and drinks. But if you're a real simp, a creep or give serial killer vibes, you're def going to need to pay more. Treat it like normal dating and act normal, and you'll be surprised what that gets you.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;6503456]Wittymermaid424 from seeking. I can't post a link because I blocked her.

The conversation started out great. We talked on the phone for 45 minutes and really hit it off. We set up a meeting for the next day. 30 minutes later she text me asking for 3 because her phone was getting shut off. Plus she wanted me to send it to a friend's account because she was locked out of hers. Not once did she mention it during our conversation. In fact I mentioned all the cash app scammers that hit me up. I even thanked her for not doing that.

I just ignored her and went to bed. We talked the next day and I told her that was a shit move and get lost. She said sorry and really wanted to meet me. I told her if we met for coffee I would give her a little something for her troubles but it will only be in person. She agreed. Well two hours before we were to meet guess what. Can you send me some money. Good God really. I was going to meet her a mile from where she lived too.

Well I pulled the wad of cash out of my wallet took a pic and sent it with "your not getting any of this".

Man these gal are just so stupid and lazy. If you just want to scam guys at least put a little effort in it.

Long story short just another cash app scammer that doesn't want to meet.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb5338db-357a-4628-bd5c-08e2a9ee57fe[/URL]

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;6503628]Generally agree except for the last part. If you're 1/2 way decent and got game, $1 K / mo is plenty. I currently got TWO SBs one 23 UW student and one 26 tech girl that I give each $1 K / mo for all I can eat and they host. I fuck each of them 2-3 x per week (not month). Think about it this way. The more desirable qualities you got, the less money you need to give. These girls are NOT pros and the truly young ones just want a few bucks to spend on partying and drinks. But if you're a real simp, a creep or give serial killer vibes, you're def going to need to pay more. Treat it like normal dating and act normal, and you'll be surprised what that gets you.[/QUOTE]Care to show your work? Hehe.

[QUOTE=DilzParty;6503383]So you are currently a regular for a SWer who you are treating like an SB and want something that looks a little more like a relationship because you aren't getting something (free social time? Emotional connection? First, SA seems to be the place over SB / SD.

Add your tinder pics, keep them private, and just share them in your first message. I've had a few long term (6 mo+) arrangements and both of them were completely aware they could be making much more as escorts with less time spent, had no emotional baggage about sugaring being SW, and just liked being able to be picky and treat it like dating. Kept them PPM without complaint because we only met a few times a month. Don't expect them to go do a bunch of shit they don't like doing, like taking the city party girl on a camping trip, but if you actually have common interests they are down.

You have to put dating app level of effort into finding these, the money just helps offset the fact that you are old, short, out of shape, and / or some other deficiency. It won't save you from being a creep, boring, or having absolutely zero social skills which is the impression an empty profile with no pictures gives off. Put some effort into your first message so they know you are serious, but don't just right into trying to "book" her by asking her to meet or sending your number. Again, treat it like matching on a dating app but drop some hints that show you aren't one of the idiots who think SA dating doesn't involve money. Just put in your profile what type of relationship you'd like to find yourself in.

You don't have to be worth $2 M but if you aren't giving them at least what you are giving your SW for an hour for a non-overnight SB meet you aren't going to be moving up the quality scale. And you aren't going to find many people interested in putting a lot of effort into the relationship if your budget is $1 K / mo because you just aren't having that much impact on their situation.[/QUOTE]More or less, ya. Not a SW, but more a UTR provider. She is crazy as shit, but I think that might be part of the attraction for me.

This is gold. Thanks. I'll up my game. (Or continue be a little simp ***** to my abusive current reg. Hahahaha. You guys can put bets on which one).

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;6503628]Generally agree except for the last part. If you're 1/2 way decent and got game, $1 K / mo is plenty. I currently got TWO SBs one 23 UW student and one 26 tech girl that I give each $1 K / mo for all I can eat and they host. I fuck each of them 2-3 x per week (not month). Think about it this way. The more desirable qualities you got, the less money you need to give. These girls are NOT pros and the truly young ones just want a few bucks to spend on partying and drinks. But if you're a real simp, a creep or give serial killer vibes, you're def going to need to pay more. Treat it like normal dating and act normal, and you'll be surprised what that gets you.[/QUOTE]Well. This is encouraging. I'm at about $2 k -$2500 per month now Including her and some AMP visits. I would be happy to put all of that into the right girl. Ii clearly don't have your game, but I guess I only need half your game. Haha. Thank you.