Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5654163]I have been to lots of MPs. Goldfinger's door entry bell is like a windchime in a cat 4 hurricane. I am trying to figure out what the place grosses in a day, but I think they must jerk off at least 30 guys there a day. I was there for an hour and 5 mongers came in. I won't say what percentage asked to use the can, but it is pretty high.

The place is open 11 hours a day and I go there during prime hours because I am not some kind of perv.

Assuming 40 dollars per "head", that is 1200 dollars a day, or about 35 k a month.

I assume the rent is not more than 4 k a month.

I wonder what the girls make outside of tip, but maybe he pays the girls 100 bucks a day and lets them keep 50% of the tips. I assume the tips are like 150% at least of the cover, so another 1800 dollars a day, or 900 to ownership. He is making 700 a day on cover and 900 on tips, and he pays about 250 a day on rent and laundry. So he makes 1100 a day eating shrimp in fucken diamond bar. That is about 400 k.

So he pays about 200 bucks a day on.

Assuming the owner pays minimum wage of some kind, he has like.[/QUOTE]Commercial storefront rent is pretty expensive. Where my shop is it runs $4-$5 per square foot by the time you include CAM fees, and I'm not in West LA. Where Goldfinger is it's probably more like $5-$6/ SF. I've never been to Goldfinger but it sounds like a smaller space. Maybe 1000 SF. So their rent + CAM is probably in the neighborhood of $5 - $6 K. Laundry. Shit, that's a tough one. With 40 "clients" a day, that's 40 sheets to be washed. You can get 5, maybe 6 if you cram, sheets in a washing machine. That's at least 8 loads of laundry a day just for sheets, and you still need to wash towels. An hour wash cycle and an hour dry cycle, and you're lucky if one dry cycle gets your load of sheets dry, so you're looking at that damn washer and dryer running every hour of the day that you're open. Then you have to fold all that shit and put it away, and that's more labor intensive than you think. At my spa we use a linen service (my spa is legit, so we use 2 sheets per guest because everyone is draped). That costs me around $2 k / month. If we washed in house we would need two sets of machines, plus labor to do all of the laundry, plus maintenance on the machines, detergent (adds up quickly), and utilities to run them. Most smaller storefronts don't have a gas line, so you have to go with electric appliances and that shit is expensive to run. My electric bill is over $1000/ month. So in the end, my $2 k linen service costs about the same as what in-house laundry would cost (we still wash our own towels in house, and that's a full time job in itself even without having to deal with sheets). And then there's replacement costs. You can only wash stuff so many times before it starts falling apart. Towels at my place last about 2 months.

This is why I don't trust MPs to be properly washing their sheets. Most don't have the resources to do it right, unless they have two washing machines and two dryers and a full time person tending to them. They're most likely cutting corners, running short wash cycles etc.

They're still making money, but the truth about most of these places is the "owner" is a shell owner / pawn for the real business owner who is likely somewhere in Hong Kong outside the reach of law enforcement. The shell owner sends most of the cash overseas, and if he gets nabbed by LE the real owner just finds another pawn. They can make decent money but most aren't getting rich from running these places.

[QUOTE=Huch66;5654291]Went to Downey Therapeutic a couple of weeks ago on Friday. Mamasan asked if I wanted Asian or Latina. I went with Asian and got Apple. Mamasan accidently walked me into the room with the Latina. I didn't get a good look, but I should have picked her. I paid. 6 for 1/2 hour so I'm not sure if the price went up recently. Apple was Korean who is in her 40's or maybe even 50. I could not tell with her mask on. Average looking and a little chubby, but she had big tits so I went with it. Her massage skills were not good. It was mostly her sitting on my back and pushing down. After about 5 minutes of this I turned over and started negotiating. She wanted. 8 for a HJ and 1. 2 for FS. I only brought in 1. 0 so I offered her. 4 for the HJ. After a few minutes of back and forth, she agreed and told me One time only. Next time bring more money. Then she wanted the. 4 upfront so I had to give it to her. That killed the mood. She lifted up her bra and lowered her panties, but her attitude didn't make it the best experience. I tried FIV, but she blocked me. Nothing memorable about the HJ. I would try this place again, but if I saw Apple I would not repeat.[/QUOTE]The place has been around for 25+ years and it's an old reliable. You always get what you want there, usually from an older Asian provider. I've never had anyone negotiate or even mention tips there so that part is new to me. Fairly recently, Downey Massage in the next strip mall over closed down and a lot of their Latina providers ended up moving over. They didn't have Latina providers until a couple years ago, and the ones I've seen there have been young and smoking hot. I rarely get up that way anymore but when I do now I make sure to ask for a Latina.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5654991]Commercial storefront rent is pretty expensive. Where my shop is it runs $4-$5 per square foot by the time you include CAM fees, and I'm not in West LA. Where Goldfinger is it's probably more like $5-$6/ SF. I've never been to Goldfinger but it sounds like a smaller space. Maybe 1000 SF. So their rent + CAM is probably in the neighborhood of $5 - $6 K. Laundry. Shit, that's a tough one. With 40 "clients" a day, that's 40 sheets to be washed. You can get 5, maybe 6 if you cram, sheets in a washing machine. That's at least 8 loads of laundry a day just for sheets, and you still need to wash towels. An hour wash cycle and an hour dry cycle, and you're lucky if one dry cycle gets your load of sheets dry, so you're looking at that damn washer and dryer running every hour of the day that you're open. Then you have to fold all that shit and put it away, and that's more labor intensive than you think. At my spa we use a linen service (my spa is legit, so we use 2 sheets per guest because everyone is draped). That costs me around $2 k / month. If we washed in house we would need two sets of machines, plus labor to do all of the laundry, plus maintenance on the machines, detergent (adds up quickly), and utilities to run them. Most smaller storefronts don't have a gas line, so you have to go with electric appliances and that shit is expensive to run. My electric bill is over $1000/ month. So in the end, my $2 k linen service costs about the same as what in-house laundry would cost (we still wash our own towels in house, and that's a full time job in itself even without having to deal with sheets). And then there's replacement costs. You can only wash stuff so many times before it starts falling apart. Towels at my place last about 2 months.

This is why I don't trust MPs to be properly washing their sheets. Most don't have the resources to do it right, unless they have two washing machines and two dryers and a full time person tending to them. They're most likely cutting corners, running short wash cycles etc.

They're still making money, but the truth about most of these places is the "owner" is a shell owner / pawn for the real business owner who is likely somewhere in Hong Kong outside the reach of law enforcement. The shell owner sends most of the cash overseas, and if he gets nabbed by LE the real owner just finds another pawn. They can make decent money but most aren't getting rich from running these places.[/QUOTE]Rent is a killer on the westside. I have heard 7 bucks a square for a restaurant on bundy. Westwood boulevard has lots of vacancies and that may be a little lower due to the covicks. I am just saying that when you run at full capacity from day to night, you are doing as well as someone with a dollar printing press or the dodgers selling fucken hot dogs for 9 bucks.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5654952]So take Angela. She is there from 10 to 10. That is 12 hours. I assume they give her a wrist break of an hour and a wash with alcohol break for an hour. So 10 hours and I assume some mongers are dumb enough and sprung enough to get it done in a half and pay 40 for the half.

She is at 80% capacity I assume, so I am going to average her at 60 bucks an hour, or 480 a day. That right there is 2 k a week at a four day week. She prolly needs a few days off to delouse of all the DNA splatter.

If he 1099's her. Which you cannot do any longer under AB5 - he would prolly 1099 her at 15 an hour an hour for 48 hours a week, or 720. So he is making 1300 a week. If she jerks off ten guys a day and keeps half her tips, that is like another 250 a day for her on top of her 150, so she is making 400 a day.

The fact is that there is a lot of money running through there.[/QUOTE]I don't have direct knowledge of Goldfinger and how it operates, but it is actually very common in this industry for the girls to be illegally trafficked into the country and undocumented. They have huge "debts" to pay off to the people who smuggled them in. Often well over $100 k. They are pretty much kept captive. The owners of the business keep their docs so they don't have much of a chance to sneak off and go elsewhere. Most of what they earn goes to pay off their "debt. " Once they pay that off they're still in the US without anywhere to go, so many stay in the business. Yes, there are some who undoubtedly do this by choice and make good money at it, which is what keeps them doing it even if they're free to go elsewhere. Bottom line though is I wouldn't assume any of the providers you see are rolling in money. Some might be, most probably aren't.

Many here bemoan the loss of fine FBSM on the westside.

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I have seen this one about 3-4 times and am done with her. She is a porn "star", meaning that she has taken it up the ass I think from a guy with more tattoos than Madonna.

She is cute if you like the big titted dumb fake blonde.

The problem is that she is too heavy for me and has hands that are more manly than mine, which are not the best kind of jerkoff hands.

Also, she is generally on a cocktail of you name the drugs and performs the service in a dissociative state.

So, she was my onw private Viet MILF, but the last time with her it was just too much of her staring into space as she cranked my lawn snake.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5654952]So take Angela. She is there from 10 to 10. That is 12 hours. I assume they give her a wrist break of an hour and a wash with alcohol break for an hour. So 10 hours and I assume some mongers are dumb enough and sprung enough to get it done in a half and pay 40 for the half.

She is at 80% capacity I assume, so I am going to average her at 60 bucks an hour, or 480 a day. That right there is 2 k a week at a four day week. She prolly needs a few days off to delouse of all the DNA splatter.

If he 1099's her. Which you cannot do any longer under AB5 - he would prolly 1099 her at 15 an hour an hour for 48 hours a week, or 720. So he is making 1300 a week. If she jerks off ten guys a day and keeps half her tips, that is like another 250 a day for her on top of her 150, so she is making 400 a day.

The fact is that there is a lot of money running through there.[/QUOTE]I agree. The MP gal I chat with, she is a US citizen from China. They only get a break when business is slow. They work a 12 hour shift. They are pumped up with energy drinks, Starbucks and all kind of vitamins to start their day. The money is good but I think it's mostly a cash tip job for them unless the monger Zelle or Venmo them a payment.

They have busy days and slow days. Friday seems to be their busiest day (before the monger goes back home to his family for the weekend (LOL). Weekends are slower than weekdays.

So the MP gal I know keeps all her tips and she see's more than 10 guys a day. Very few truly enjoy their job although they make the best of it and try to cherish the moment until the next monger comes in the door. They know how to make you feel like your special for those 30 minutes. Being close to 3000-4000 guys a year is possible for some of these gals.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5654952]So take Angela. She is there from 10 to 10. That is 12 hours. I assume they give her a wrist break of an hour and a wash with alcohol break for an hour. So 10 hours and I assume some mongers are dumb enough and sprung enough to get it done in a half and pay 40 for the half.

She is at 80% capacity I assume, so I am going to average her at 60 bucks an hour, or 480 a day. That right there is 2 k a week at a four day week. She prolly needs a few days off to delouse of all the DNA splatter.

If he 1099's her. Which you cannot do any longer under AB5 - he would prolly 1099 her at 15 an hour an hour for 48 hours a week, or 720. So he is making 1300 a week. If she jerks off ten guys a day and keeps half her tips, that is like another 250 a day for her on top of her 150, so she is making 400 a day.

The fact is that there is a lot of money running through there.[/QUOTE]Does Angela give a passable massage? Or is this one of those, I'm just waiting for the flip type of deals? I went to GF once a few years back and there wasn't even an attempt at a massage.

[QUOTE=DontTouchThat;5658035]Does Angela give a passable massage? Or is this one of those, I'm just waiting for the flip type of deals? I went to GF once a few years back and there wasn't even an attempt at a massage.[/QUOTE]If you are a believer in massage and going to gold finger for the therapeutic benefits of massage then you are likely one of those duds who wears a mask while barebacking Mary at Chens.

I will say her massage is soft and useless and not at all painful.

Her rear end finger work is really good.

But maybe if you do not pass the first time with her you can do another massage, kind of like ms. Devi.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5658357]If you are a believer in massage and going to gold finger for the therapeutic benefits of massage then you are likely one of those duds who wears a mask while barebacking Mary at Chens.

I will say her massage is soft and useless and not at all painful.

Her rear end finger work is really good.

But maybe if you do not pass the first time with her you can do another massage, kind of like ms. Devi.[/QUOTE]What keeps you going back to gold finger? You seem to be "well travelled" I can't imagine you not seeing the two under 30's girls that rotate between villa and the much cheaper spot on SM? They both give good massages and are young and cute. Definitely cuter than the girls I've seen at gold finger. Also, the parking for GF sucks. I guess I'll give Angela a shot and see for myself.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5658357]If you are a believer in massage and going to gold finger for the therapeutic benefits of massage then you are likely one of those duds who wears a mask while barebacking Mary at Chens.

I will say her massage is soft and useless and not at all painful.

Her rear end finger work is really good.

But maybe if you do not pass the first time with her you can do another massage, kind of like ms. Devi.[/QUOTE]Haha. Why did I laugh at the mary part LOL.

[QUOTE=DontTouchThat;5658575]What keeps you going back to gold finger? You seem to be "well travelled" I can't imagine you not seeing the two under 30's girls that rotate between villa and the much cheaper spot on SM? They both give good massages and are young and cute. Definitely cuter than the girls I've seen at gold finger. Also, the parking for GF sucks. I guess I'll give Angela a shot and see for myself.[/QUOTE]If by villa you mean the place in Beverly Hills, I hear it is a stand up fucking and I do not much like Thai girls. I hear some mixed reviews and lots of guys going just for the massage. Of course, if you had any information you seem unwilling to share it.

What is the "much cheaper spot on SM" - this is not the dell help desk, so please do not use jargon.

Let's just say I work next door to the finger, literally. It is just too convenient. But the place stinks like a mixture of shit and tide. I am staying away for awhile. (yea right).

Anyone willing to share their rubmaps. Honestly not tryin to spend $20 on it. And I am tryin to see the hype on rubmaps. From a fellow mo ger to another.

Plus side:

-Much needed higher end, clean atmosphere with real linens and good smells. Well worth the $. 08.

-Very cute young talent some highly skilled and very sweet.

-Many good experiences not cheap but talented.

Minus:

-Some will up sell or negotiate which is the buzz oil (some do not). My intel and exp says you can spend between. 08-. 200 for the tip. Just bring. 20 and know you probably ain't leaving with it.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5658783]If by villa you mean the place in Beverly Hills, I hear it is a stand up fucking and I do not much like Thai girls. I hear some mixed reviews and lots of guys going just for the massage. Of course, if you had any information you seem unwilling to share it.

What is the "much cheaper spot on SM" - this is not the dell help desk, so please do not use jargon.

Let's just say I work next door to the finger, literally. It is just too convenient. But the place stinks like a mixture of shit and tide. I am staying away for awhile. (yea right).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LngTimeMongr;5660141]Anyone willing to share their rubmaps. Honestly not tryin to spend $20 on it. And I am tryin to see the hype on rubmaps. From a fellow mo ger to another.[/QUOTE]I would not trust anyone on this site with any password of mine. However, if you want reviews of a place or provider, you can send me a PM, without a read receipt, and with the following template:

I would like the _ most recent reviews of _ at _ Or, I would like the _ recent reviews at _.

[QUOTE=LngTimeMongr;5660141]Anyone willing to share their rubmaps. Honestly not tryin to spend $20 on it. And I am tryin to see the hype on rubmaps. From a fellow mo ger to another.[/QUOTE]I tried their membership for a few months. Realized a lot of the MP reviews were outdated or the place was closed. Many guys seem to sensationalize their reviews. I knew of a gal that had a certain tat but many reviews said she was tat free. Now you could not DATY and not see her huge tat, Go figure. Just a lot of inconsistencies in different reviews of the same gal. Plus many mongers call out the owners for posting a lot of fake reviews.

It's not all fake or bad reviews / intel, but not reliable for what they charge. The comment section are decent to read but again not consistent and more smack talk bit interesting.