[QUOTE=Bogart11;6029951]Just watched the video she nuts![/QUOTE]Yea. I have seen her in the Bronx and mentioned she likely has a mental illness. Either Bronx, Albany, Connecticut are all dead or her service is poor.
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[QUOTE=Bogart11;6029951]Just watched the video she nuts![/QUOTE]Yea. I have seen her in the Bronx and mentioned she likely has a mental illness. Either Bronx, Albany, Connecticut are all dead or her service is poor.
[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6029634]Are you talking about this victoria?
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I don't think they the same person. Different pics, number, plus ad is in Russian characters. Having a different number happens all the time but coupled with the Russian characters I don't think they the same.[/QUOTE]Ah ok, thanks for the heads up, I got her to send me some tit pics so at least she's busty LOL, still on the fence.
[QUOTE=Scream3000;6026765]She has been around for a while, but never seen her reviewed before. Her ad says she loves to be slurped and licked, but doesn't do BJ (assuming she only likes FS and to be licked). I wouldn't mind eating her out if these pics are accurate.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/newyork/brooklyn/85870302[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw her a bunch of times at her incall spot a 3 or 4 years ago. When I could actually get on to her, I had a decent experience with her every time. Her pics are accurate as of the time I last saw her. I remember her having a very tight pussy, and accommodating to every position I wanted, and never rushed me. I used to only see her for half sessions because during the summer, she had no AC in her incall spot, and I got so sweaty and dehydrated after pounding her out restlessly for 30 minutes. She has a banging body, that's petite and wiry, which I love, which makes her worth it, especially compared to the dreck that common these days. The only downside is that she doesn't offer any extras.
[QUOTE=Popozao;6030245]I saw her a bunch of times at her incall spot a 3 or 4 years ago. When I could actually get on to her, I had a decent experience with her every time. Her pics are accurate as of the time I last saw her. I remember her having a very tight pussy, and accommodating to every position I wanted, and never rushed me. I used to only see her for half sessions because during the summer, she had no AC in her incall spot, and I got so sweaty and dehydrated after pounding her out restlessly for 30 minutes. She has a banging body, that's petite and wiry, which I love, which makes her worth it, especially compared to the dreck that common these days. The only downside is that she doesn't offer any extras.[/QUOTE]I noticed her ads were titled $75-80 ss special for several weeks. And she dropped that ad title after 7/20 which was the same time I posted that positive response to user that asked about her. Plus she started going by the name Kylie again after not using the name in her ad for months. Wonder if she lurks the forum given the timing of those changes.
I had a hypothesis in another section that one possible reason some threads in this forum tend to have limited positive reviews is due to if you do find a great provider and say good things about her you drive traffic to her and that leads to raised rates. This happens a lot with the newer crop of providers. Kylie comes from a different time period though. Back when specials were a regular thing providers did. But still I wonder if people just keep a lot of the good providers to themselves and they are out there just not openly discussed.
[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6030842]But still I wonder if people just keep a lot of the good providers to themselves and they are out there just not openly discussed.[/QUOTE]Its possible that might have been the case, but using Kylie as an example, she wasn't doing anything that special IMO that I would want to try and keep her to myself. The best way I could describe it was that she gave the baseline of a decent experience, while still being physically fit, and under 35 yo. I do think you're right that with the lack of quality providers these days, it might lead more people to horde "diamonds in the rough", to avoid those providers getting too much business to the point where they feel empowered to raise their rates.
[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6030842]I had a hypothesis in another section that one possible reason some threads in this forum tend to have limited positive reviews is due to if you do find a great provider and say good things about her you drive traffic to her and that leads to raised rates. This happens a lot with the newer crop of providers.[/QUOTE]About a year ago someone in the forum threw us the alley to an UTR Dominican provider (can't remember the details in full). This was, and still is, a member of the community who's word I trust but what you stated proved to be true in this situation. I got the details a bit late and when I finally got around to contacting her she started doing all the extra BS like up charging and asking for a deposit. One time she was on her period but still posting ads. This was not mentioned in the ad but when you contacted her she would say she is only selling content. That was the last straw and I never attempted to see her after. Fast forward to a few weeks back I see her appear on the listings and check out some of her other ads around the time and it looks like she's got a pimp bc she looks to be working out of one of those places with multiple providers who all use the same phone numbers.
[QUOTE=Popozao;6030975]Its possible that might have been the case, but using Kylie as an example, she wasn't doing anything that special IMO that I would want to try and keep her to myself. The best way I could describe it was that she gave the baseline of a decent experience, while still being physically fit, and under 35 yo. I do think you're right that with the lack of quality providers these days, it might lead more people to horde "diamonds in the rough", to avoid those providers getting too much business to the point where they feel empowered to raise their rates.[/QUOTE]Finding a decent provider that isn't a drug addict, doesn't rush, accurate pics, doesn't rob you and at a reasonable rate is getting harder to find. It is sad but it feels as if many of the new crop of providers arent looking for regulars with how often many change their numbers. So many times I show up to a spot and chick is a drug addict and im not talking weed. It be heroin and them having red bleeding marks on their legs or arms.
When I saw the provider below the track marks was so bad
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[QUOTE=TrueSilentStar;6031041]About a year ago someone in the forum threw us the alley to an UTR Dominican provider (can't remember the details in full). This was, and still is, a member of the community who's word I trust but what you stated proved to be true in this situation. I got the details a bit late and when I finally got around to contacting her she started doing all the extra BS like up charging and asking for a deposit. One time she was on her period but still posting ads. This was not mentioned in the ad but when you contacted her she would say she is only selling content. That was the last straw and I never attempted to see her after. Fast forward to a few weeks back I see her appear on the listings and check out some of her other ads around the time and it looks like she's got a pimp bc she looks to be working out of one of those places with multiple providers who all use the same phone numbers.[/QUOTE]Yea UTR are the worst to out. The whole reason they are UTR is because they either have enough whales / sugar daddys to support them or a day job where escorting is not something they need to survive. I guess she lost those clients or day job if she had to turn to a pimp / multi provider spot instead.
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It's gotten to the point where if someone toft and goes to the hotels to see a provider I feel like we all should like meet up off here pm and get walkie talkies and go to the hotel while one of us watch out the other just for safety cause man I've never seen so many ads posting of out hotels likes this and charging over 100 dollars for a bad visit man yall be safe out there It's getting soooo worse now I'm trying not to give up on the hobby but it's soo hard cause I try and give chances to these girls and they fucked me over covid is a ***** LOL for killing off everything.
[QUOTE=FarRockQueens;6035248]It's gotten to the point where if someone toft and goes to the hotels to see a provider I feel like we all should like meet up off here pm and get walkie talkies and go to the hotel while one of us watch out the other just for safety cause man I've never seen so many ads posting of out hotels likes this and charging over 100 dollars for a bad visit man yall be safe out there It's getting soooo worse now I'm trying not to give up on the hobby but it's soo hard cause I try and give chances to these girls and they fucked me over covid is a ***** LOL for killing off everything.[/QUOTE]Its either these sketchy ass hotels or an outcall and no in between LOL. Maybe a car date. I used to have a nice little rotation of chicks who hosted from discreet homes and were all within walking distance. I took those days for granted and all of those providers (except for 1 but I'm tired of her LOL) are long gone.
[QUOTE=FarRockQueens;6035248]It's gotten to the point where if someone toft and goes to the hotels to see a provider I feel like we all should like meet up off here pm and get walkie talkies and go to the hotel while one of us watch out the other just for safety cause man I've never seen so many ads posting of out hotels likes this and charging over 100 dollars for a bad visit man yall be safe out there It's getting soooo worse now I'm trying not to give up on the hobby but it's soo hard cause I try and give chances to these girls and they fucked me over covid is a ***** LOL for killing off everything.[/QUOTE]Yea it is uncanny how many providers are in hotels these days. It can probably be broken down into four major categories. They are trafficked/have pimps, they have families/boyfriends, they got kids, or they just homeless. But it falls under the first three majority of time.
There are still providers that host in apts but what I noticed is those tend to not respond as often or have limited incall hours. Like they might only host after 8pm for example.
Huge uptick in scammer lately. You set the net and when you get to the address they gave you they ask for a booking fee to get the room number. One provider gave me a room number at a hotel that didn't even have rooms that high, when I called her on it she gave me another wrong room then goes if you want the room number you have to book me first. I booked you when we set up the details and I left my house.
[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6008508]I saw someone else from that group. I can share my experience that can maybe help you understand your situation. Since these situations tend to be providers under the same house rules or situations. I saw Vee.
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She raised the price on me too. She claimed she had to make $2500 a week or she would beaten up and kicked out the apt. I didn't go back because of the raised rate plus a guy knocked on the door while I was with her to tell me my time was up. He then went inside the apt as I left and was screaming at her and I heard loud noises. I couldnt see but it sounded like she got thrown to the floor and punched a couple times. Anyway I guess they raise the rate for their house fee if they dont have enough.[/QUOTE]Update from this post. I had been wondering why several providers from that crew seemed to stop posting in Brooklyn and moved to Long Island or other states. Found the answer on my own. The handler at that spot got arrested.
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Since I didn't go back following the previous incident I didn't see the 18 year old from Ohio provider from article but I am aware of her ads. Anyway it is kinda sad how often I have seen providers or spots that end up in these trafficking articles lately. I miss the independent providers. What I mentioned in my previous post was mentioned in that article. They had donation quotas which was likely the reason for those raised rates out of nowhere that spot had. I was so innocent and thinking the quota was a house fee. Turns out from article the donation quota was for them to no longer have to be forced to escort. Like to buy their freedom and go back home.
[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6044110]Update from this post. I had been wondering why several providers from that crew seemed to stop posting in Brooklyn and moved to Long Island or other states. Found the answer on my own. The handler at that spot got arrested.
[URL]https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2022/07/29/aspiring-actress-18-lured-to-brooklyn-made-victim-in-sex-trafficking-says-da/[/URL]
Since I didn't go back following the previous incident I didn't see the 18 year old from Ohio provider from article but I am aware of her ads on skipthegames/megapersonals. Will link to ad below. Anyway it is kinda sad how often I have seen providers or spots that end up in these trafficking articles lately. I miss the independent providers. What I mentioned in my previous post was mentioned in that article. They had donation quotas which was likely the reason for those raised rates out of nowhere that spot had. I was so innocent and thinking the quota was a house fee. Turns out from article the donation quota was for them to no longer have to be forced to escort. Like to buy their freedom and go back home.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/im-new-hereeeeee-freaaky-snow-hot-n-ready/46746884[/QUOTE]Ok. This is one of the things I've been wondering about and part of why I've slowly backing off from this hobby. It seems to be that all the indys are either on the very high end now or doing more sugar baby stuff (which isn't really any less expensive for us). Reasonably priced indys are pretty much gone and what we seem to be left with are girls who are either trafficked, drug addicts or just plain gross. It all bothers me but especially the trafficked girls. At least with high end indys I know I'm getting someone who's doing this on her terms but I don't want to spend that kind of money that often. I really miss the days of Craigslist.
[QUOTE=BrooklynMatt;6044178]Ok. This is one of the things I've been wondering about and part of why I've slowly backing off from this hobby. It seems to be that all the indys are either on the very high end now or doing more sugar baby stuff (which isn't really any less expensive for us). Reasonably priced indys are pretty much gone and what we seem to be left with are girls who are either trafficked, drug addicts or just plain gross. It all bothers me but especially the trafficked girls. At least with high end indys I know I'm getting someone who's doing this on her terms but I don't want to spend that kind of money that often. I really miss the days of Craigslist.[/QUOTE]I edited the post to remove the ad since I felt maybe we are supposed to keep the victims of this stuff a bit anonymous. And that it ruins the hobby for others if they find out they saw a provider who was being forced into this. But if anyone wondered who it was there you go. But you pretty much nailed what I have been experiencing as well the last 2 years.
In the craigslist days there were way more reasonably priced indys as well as UTRs. Nowadays the UTR concept is becoming extinct. If you answer an ad she is either a career escort or trafficked. With the trafficked women I feel we are at a point where it is a different generation. 18-22 age range isn't going I just turned 18 or I need help with college tuition/rent I'm going to go on STG, mega personals, etc. Make ads and fuck a bunch of random dudes for cash. Like in the craigslist days 5-10 years ago. It seems they just go to sugar daddy route. And if you see a legit 18-22 on STG for some reason from my experiences they always have handlers. That constant new crop of college aged indy providers in 2008 to 2018 balanced out the jaded providers. Since they were the ones willing to negotiate more often than those older providers in those days. By older I mean 35+. I think due to the rates/menus being public and discussed among the women or their handlers led to so many providers with larger no lists on menu and the kind of men they see.