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[QUOTE=Jasper Sharp;1294344]Carlos, don't listen to Niteluvr, It's strong advice but good advice. If you want to keep going to Gold you have the realize the impression the mamasan has of you could end up being the most important factor contributing to how satisfied your experiences end up at gold. If she learns to trust you, and you seem nice and your not remembered as the 'guy' who started an argument and handled business cool and collected, even if something goes wrong, then that is the type of thing where other privileges at the spa start to open up. The mamasan will eventually bring you more girls to choose from, and this also affects the attitude of the girls because mamasan told them to take care of you well. In my experience it also helps with information about former girls you've been associated with. When your favorite girl disappears and you ask where she is your not likely to get 'I don't know who y.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it's just this type of thinking why AMP service in Atlanta sucks big time! Rewarding a girl for piss poor service is completely fucked up IMHO! I respect all the ladies I meet and expect the same in return, if I feel I'm not being respected I will vote with my wallet and move on to the next spa!
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[QUOTE=ShortFoot;1294376]Unfortunately it's just this type of thinking why AMP service in Atlanta sucks big time! Rewarding a girl for piss poor service is completely fucked up IMHO! I respect all the ladies I meet and expect the same in return, if I feel I'm not being respected I will vote with my wallet and move on to the next spa![/QUOTE]Well, I would never condone poor attitudes from the girls (whether they are too timid or just plain belligerent to your requests) , but keep your cool because it goes a long way. If something goes wrong do not throw a fit, relax and go talk to the mamasan. This is my approach. You have to know when to pick and choose your spots and where to fill in all the gaps. Things are not as they seem. From my personal experience at Spa's which got pretty deep for a while, the only time I picked up the wrong girl was because of my inexperience. Girls are always giving off subtle signs of how their service will be, but people hardly pay much attention to them and are so concerned with getting laid they overlook them. Think with your head when you are choosing your girl and once you get the right girl in the room, that's when give matters some serious thought with both heads. If a girl is acting horny with you, loose, relaxed and smiling, pick her if you think you think she looks good. Indeed depending on where or what time you go this could be quite a difficult combination to catch, but if you are patient then you are likely to have those experiences you just cannot stop thinking about long after service. What you want to avoid is the girl who looks scared of you, tense, or too timid. A big no go on the angry, hardened (the stuck up looking ones) looking ones especially, I don't care how good they look. I found these girls rush service, cut you short, don't pay attention or worse. And there is no need to be involved in hit and runs when it's a sure thing you are going to get laid. A lot of money is on the line. Look I'll keep it simple, this is my advice to the rookies out there, if she doesn't greet you with a smile or seem in a playful mood, skip her (unless you know her well).
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[QUOTE=Jasper Sharp;1294344]Carlos, don't listen to Niteluvr, It's strong advice but good advice. If you want to keep going to Gold you have the realize the impression the mamasan has of you could end up being the most important factor contributing to how satisfied your experiences end up at gold. If she learns to trust you, and you seem nice and your not remembered as the 'guy' who started an argument and handled business cool and collected, even if something goes wrong, then that is the type of thing where other privileges at the spa start to open up. The mamasan will eventually bring you more girls to choose from, and this also affects the attitude of the girls because mamasan told them to take care of you well.[/QUOTE]JS, read your words carefully, then apply them to the present. Most mamasans and girls rotate in and out of AMPs so fast nowadays, most guys don't have time to build a "history" with an AMP unless they're going several days a week to the same AMP. As often as I go, presumably a lot more than most guys (who post) , I usually encounter a new mamasan and new girls. When I hear the phrase,"Have you been here before?" I laugh as the clueless mamasan (s) have no idea that I've been coming to their particular AMP for 3-4 years while they've been there perhaps a week.
The poster didn't indicate he intended to return to Gold, so I applaud him for handling the situation the way he did. IF he did intend to return at some point, then sure, bullshitting and befriending the mamasan is the way to go for good future service. If you've bothered to read any of my previous posts, that's been my advice for years.
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Paying to apologize
[QUOTE=Jasper Sharp;1294344].I've been kicked out of Gold before just because I refused to chose from the same girls they kept trying to offer me, and told not to come back despite offering money as an apology.[/QUOTE]Not trying to jump anyone or start anything. Just checking to see if there was a miscommunication. A monger declines girls, is asked to leave the AMP, and then offers money because he is sorry that none of the girls offered were ones he wanted?
I am all for everyone doing their own thing, but that is an approach that, IMO, just seems wrong.
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[QUOTE=Jasper Sharp;1294450]Well, I would never condone poor attitudes from the girls (whether they are too timid or just plain belligerent to your requests) , but keep your cool because it goes a long way. If something goes wrong do not throw a fit, relax and go talk to the mamasan. This is my approach. You have to know when to pick and choose your spots and where to fill in all the gaps. Things are not as they seem. From my personal experience at Spa's which got pretty deep for a while, the only time I picked up the wrong girl was because of my inexperience. Girls are always giving off subtle signs of how their service will be, but people hardly pay much attention to them and are so concerned with getting laid they overlook them. Think with your head when you are choosing your girl and once you get the right girl in the room, that's when give matters some serious thought with both heads. If a girl is acting horny with you, loose, relaxed and smiling, pick her if you think you think she looks good. Indeed depending on where or what time you go this could be quite a difficult combination to catch, but if you are patient then you are likely to have those experiences you just cannot stop thinking about long after service. What you want to avoid is the girl who looks scared of you, tense, or too timid. A big no go on the angry, hardened (the stuck up looking ones) looking ones especially, I don't care how good they look. I found these girls rush service, cut you short, don't pay attention or worse. And there is no need to be involved in hit and runs when it's a sure thing you are going to get laid. A lot of money is on the line. Look I'll keep it simple, this is my advice to the rookies out there, if she doesn't greet you with a smile or seem in a playful mood, skip her (unless you know her well).[/QUOTE]I think the original poster is aware of all that. He didn't seem to be a newbie. Your advice is good in terms of choosing the girl; however, his issue took place after that point when the girl didn't provide an acceptable and expected level of service so he chose to forgo any compensation and bolt. Who can blame him for that?
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[QUOTE=Carlosss1; 1292261]Like others have said "I had a dream". That I went to gold and the girl acted like a complete B! So I walked out, argued with mamasan, and dipped. I think her name was Kimmie, but I could be wrong, short hair bolt on's, cute face, nice butt. Really stank attitude. I know the rep of that place, its pricey, and I have never encountered a stank attitude previously so I would pony up and leave with a smile. This chick was just rude and insulting. 1.6 and she said she wouldn't take anything off, wouldn't do ts, would use her hand then I would leave. So I snatched my 1. 6 and headed for the door. Mamasan tried to corner me and assure me I would get my way, and I had to argue my way out of a corner and dip out on them. No way I'm going to deal with that. Called renee from BP small house where other girls work. Great attitude, good massage, great ending. Black woman 6 in the looks department, possibly 7 if you are being nice. See-cups, decent butt, but no basketball. .9 for hour+1. 0 for nude b2b upgrade (a little pricey) but after experience at gold just wanted to get it over with so no negotiation on my part, and she was so cool, I just went along with it. End of massage was very happy. I was only there for the hands but YMMV. I heard some serious thumping from another room when I was leaving, like I said YMMV depending on who you see. Saw 2 other girls all were friendly 1 black chick (bolt-on's) didn't catch the name. 1 white I think name was Lexi. Renee is very cool, but very talkative, especially at first. Then talked less once she was comfortable. Great service, very cool girls, would recommend if the 1. 9 doesn't bother you. Got the full hour, absolutely no rush. Cc machine was avail at desk in the front.
Then another dream about a week later. A. Therapy across from gold. Saw eva very sweet girl. Said she was new, but who really knows, very pretty 8 in looks, only downside for me was small chest. But they were nice looking for their size probably large A's or very small B's. Her attitude made up for the rest. She was a really nice girl. Made a couple jokes and smiled a lot but didn't overtalk. Gave very good massage, probably the best I've had at an AMP. Ending was a happy one. 1.5 damage. Knew how to use her hands and mouth. [/
Whats the BP Small house? I'm in Atl at least twice a month with my job. Would like to check this place out. Inbox if you want.
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Golden Touch. BiBi
Stopped by Golden Touch tonight. Had seen CoCo previously so wanted to try the new girl, BiBi, but she was in session and had another dude on deck. Lisa had BiBi poke her head in the door so I could see her. Looks doable but not a hottie IMO. Just wondering if anyone here has seen her.
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First post: Greeen Spa
I've been reading these forums for years now, its about time I post and contribute.
I have been favoriting Greens on Roswells Road for a while now. I've usually had good experiences there: 4 to mamasan, and 16 for FS.
Though they have changed owers recently, I've noticed that there is a new much younger mamasan, and not many girls working there at all now. Last Saturday I stopped by, and drew Kim. She is prolly about 35-40 yrs, and reminds me of Yoko Lennon.
4 to the house, and average massage / skin rub later she says 'Times up', I offer for extras, she declines and says she NEVER does that. She is a licensed massage therpist and dosnt do that. I talked w Mamasan. She made like she didn't know what I was talking about. I mented that I was there a month ago, I cited the girl I saw, and Mamason said she didn't know what I was talking about.
Try Greens at your own luck.
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Greeen Spa
I've been reading these forums for years, finally had to register and contribute:
Stopped by Greens on Roswell road last Saturday. I've been going there for years and usually have a good time. 4 to the house and 16 to mamasan.
I drew Kim, and after a poor massage she said "times up". I offered for extras but she said no way, she is a licenesed massage therapist and dosnt do that. May she thought I was LE, but it will be a while before I back again.
I talked with Mamasan, and told here I was there a month ago, and I cited the girls name, but she shrugged her shoulders.
Good luck at Greens, I didn't have any.
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[QUOTE=Tomcat55; 1295676]I've been reading these forums for years, finally had to register and contribute:
Stopped by Greens on Roswell road last Saturday. I've been going there for years and usually have a good time. 4 to the house and 16 to mamasan.
I drew Kim, and after a poor massage she said "times up". I offered for extras but she said no way, she is a licenesed massage therapist and dosnt do that. May she thought I was LE, but it will be a while before I back again.
I talked with Mamasan, and told here I was there a month ago, and I cited the girls name, but she shrugged her shoulders.
Good luck at Greens, I didn't have any.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. Perhaps local LE is on their ass nowadays or you spooked them inadvertently. 1) Do you look like LE? 2) Was your demeanor not casual enough to put the average Asian at ease? We've all come up short on occasion so if none of the above apply, then perhaps Green is under some kind of scrutiny. Best to take a break from them and visit Fuji up the road. The mamasan is more relaxed there and always goes out of her way to ensure I leave satisfied.
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Bibi
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1295382]Stopped by Golden Touch tonight. Had seen CoCo previously so wanted to try the new girl, BiBi, but she was in session and had another dude on deck. Lisa had BiBi poke her head in the door so I could see her. Looks doable but not a hottie IMO. Just wondering if anyone here has seen her.[/QUOTE]Nite, Bibi was my very first provider. LOL. This was about 2 yrs ago at Jasmine and to be quite honest it was completely uninteded on my part. I had always heard through buddies that there were extras to be had a AMP's but had never really thought much about it. I went in after a workout that caused a pulled muscle in my back and was seeking theraputic. That was all I thought was available. I believe it was. 6 to the house. Which is all I paid for a TS and HE. Massage wasn't bad from what I remember but who knows. It was my first time ever in the place. Hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1294617]I think the original poster is aware of all that. He didn't seem to be a newbie. Your advice is good in terms of choosing the girl; however, his issue took place after that point when the girl didn't provide an acceptable and expected level of service so he chose to forgo any compensation and bolt. Who can blame him for that?[/QUOTE]Fella's I definitely appreciate the advice from all angles. No offense taken by anyone's remarks. Just to clarify and shed some light on the debate my "argument" with mamasan was NOT a loud over-dramatic, shouting match. Maybe I should have not have depicted it as an "all out argument". It was more-so a situation where mamasan ushered me into a room, I felt pressured and cornered. Then me trying to explain that the girls attitude was a bigtime turn-off, what the girl was attempting to offer for the pricetag wasn't going to work for me, and after the debate with the girl I would just like to go. Mamasan kept assuring me that I would get what I wanted. I explained that I just wanted to leave, and me and mamasan had this exchange at least 4 times before I was allowed to leave. At that point maybe I should have stayed but like others have said I voted with my wallet. But here is what really got on my nerves with the girl. I gave her the 1. 6, then as she was walking out the door basically into the hallway, she mumbles "for this no ts, no massage, not going to remove top, HJ only". We had already somewhat come to terms because I explained my expectations prior to handing over the 1. 6. Then as she is walking out she tried to switch it up. If I'm banned from that place, at this point, I could care less. I'm really not a hothead, and would have negotiated a bit to meet the girl at the right price for right service, and I always have in the past, but I didn't like her underhanded approach, so I wasn't going to reward it. And I was glad that I did. Renee was great. I've been to gold probably 10 times over the years and its always been very business-like, which I can handle, but I've never had a encounter with a B! Like this.
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[QUOTE=Jeepy; 1294683][QUOTE=Carlosss1; 1292261]Like others have said "I had a dream". That I went to gold and the girl acted like a complete B! So I walked out, argued with mamasan, and dipped. I think her name was Kimmie, but I could be wrong, short hair bolt on's, cute face, nice butt. Really stank attitude. I know the rep of that place, its pricey, and I have never encountered a stank attitude previously so I would pony up and leave with a smile. This chick was just rude and insulting. 1.6 and she said she wouldn't take anything off, wouldn't do ts, would use her hand then I would leave. So I snatched my 1. 6 and headed for the door. Mamasan tried to corner me and assure me I would get my way, and I had to argue my way out of a corner and dip out on them. No way I'm going to deal with that. Called renee from BP small house where other girls work. Great attitude, good massage, great ending. Black woman 6 in the looks department, possibly 7 if you are being nice. See-cups, decent butt, but no basketball. .9 for hour+1. 0 for nude b2b upgrade (a little pricey) but after experience at gold just wanted to get it over with so no negotiation on my part, and she was so cool, I just went along with it. End of massage was very happy. I was only there for the hands but YMMV. I heard some serious thumping from another room when I was leaving, like I said YMMV depending on who you see. Saw 2 other girls all were friendly 1 black chick (bolt-on's) didn't catch the name. 1 white I think name was Lexi. Renee is very cool, but very talkative, especially at first. Then talked less once she was comfortable. Great service, very cool girls, would recommend if the 1. 9 doesn't bother you. Got the full hour, absolutely no rush. Cc machine was avail at desk in the front.
Then another dream about a week later. A. Therapy across from gold. Saw eva very sweet girl. Said she was new, but who really knows, very pretty 8 in looks, only downside for me was small chest. But they were nice looking for their size probably large A's or very small B's. Her attitude made up for the rest. She was a really nice girl. Made a couple jokes and smiled a lot but didn't overtalk. Gave very good massage, probably the best I've had at an AMP. Ending was a happy one. 1.5 damage. Knew how to use her hands and mouth. [/quote]Whats the BP Small house? I'm in Atl at least twice a month with my job. Would like to check this place out. Inbox if you want.[/QUOTE]No offense, please don't take this the wrong way, but all your posts are pretty much short, one line comments off other people's posts. I'm a newbie too, and I know better than to ask questions until I have provided contributions of my own.
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[QUOTE=Megadeth4123;1296032]Nite, Bibi was my very first provider. LOL. This was about 2 yrs ago at Jasmine and to be quite honest it was completely uninteded on my part. I had always heard through buddies that there were extras to be had a AMP's but had never really thought much about it. I went in after a workout that caused a pulled muscle in my back and was seeking theraputic. That was all I thought was available. I believe it was. 6 to the house. Which is all I paid for a TS and HE. Massage wasn't bad from what I remember but who knows. It was my first time ever in the place. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Two years ago? I'm guessing you saw a different BiBi at Jasmine. It would be ultra-rare for a woman to be working an AMPs that long, plus BiBi is a some-what common name that AMP girls use. In fact, there's another BiBi currently working at St. Jame.
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[QUOTE=Carlosss1;1296063]Fella's I definitely appreciate the advice from all angles. No offense taken by anyone's remarks. Just to clarify and shed some light on the debate my "argument" with mamasan was NOT a loud over-dramatic, shouting match. Maybe I should have not have depicted it as an "all out argument". It was more-so a situation where mamasan ushered me into a room, I felt pressured and cornered. Then me trying to explain that the girls attitude was a bigtime turn-off, what the girl was attempting to offer for the pricetag wasn't going to work for me, and after the debate with the girl I would just like to go. Mamasan kept assuring me that I would get what I wanted. I explained that I just wanted to leave, and me and mamasan had this exchange at least 4 times before I was allowed to leave. At that point maybe I should have stayed but like others have said I voted with my wallet. But here is what really got on my nerves with the girl. I gave her the 1. 6, then as she was walking out the door basically into the hallway, she mumbles "for this no ts, no massage, not going to remove top, HJ only". We had already somewhat come to terms because I explained my expectations prior to handing over the 1. 6. Then as she is walking out she tried to switch it up. If I'm banned from that place, at this point, I could care less. I'm really not a hothead, and would have negotiated a bit to meet the girl at the right price for right service, and I always have in the past, but I didn't like her underhanded approach, so I wasn't going to reward it. And I was glad that I did. Renee was great. I've been to gold probably 10 times over the years and its always been very business-like, which I can handle, but I've never had a encounter with a B! Like this.[/QUOTE]Again, I think you did the right thing. Someone else took issue with it. BTW, where is this Renee you saw? Got the impression you found her on Backpage. If so, can you post the link?