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[QUOTE=JasinHo500;6536611]Yes, if someone could provide more info on "The Track" I would appreciate it.
Feel free to DM me if you prefer.[/QUOTE]Oh no, that area is about to get flooded with NoVA horndogs. Our street scene is non-existent. I figured out where by looking at the DC forum. Not sure sure how I feel about roaming DC at those hours.
[QUOTE=Shier;6536395]What / where is "The Track" in DC? I've never heard of it, but then again I keep exclusively to NoVA. How did you happen to recognize her?[/QUOTE]The track in DC a is basically 1 street and they loop around on others at times. It is on 12th from K st. NW to P st. NW is where you will find them hanging. Sometimes you will seem them on 11St. NW just look at a map. Faith is easily recognized she is a tall thick girl. Pics are just what you will see. She's not always out but is a regular visitor there.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/billiejane[/URL]
Has anybody ever seen her? I have and she's wonderful. She's based in PA, but she comes to the DMV every month. I know most guys don't want to shell out her rate, but she is totally worth it. I also know many guys don't want to give a deposit, but her reviews and reputation show that's not a problem.
So you have this tall woman who looks like the independent singer / songwriter you've always fantasized about with huge naturals, and she's very personable. I'm glad that I took my B12 that day!
[QUOTE=WillGuyMar;6537090]Oh no, that area is about to get flooded with NoVA horndogs. Our street scene is non-existent. I figured out where by looking at the DC forum. Not sure sure how I feel about roaming DC at those hours.[/QUOTE]Miss me with that. Last thing I need to be doing is driving around DC at 3 am.
[QUOTE=JohninVA;6537099]The track in DC a is basically 1 street and they loop around on others at times. It is on 12th from K st. NW to P st. NW is where you will find them hanging. Sometimes you will seem them on 11St. NW just look at a map. Faith is easily recognized she is a tall thick girl. Pics are just what you will see. She's not always out but is a regular visitor there.[/QUOTE]That's definitely a streetwalker thread discussion and reading for information.
Thanks for the Faith info.
Going pass on her.
And DC hasn't had a legit track since the middle 90's.
[QUOTE=JkRussell;6537041]She's legit. She moves around.[/QUOTE]Mix reviews on EB as far her appearance from posted ADs.
The handler told me that Cherry (came back yesterday) and Candy were available. Since I have not seen Candy, I decided to give her a try. I should have stayed with Cherry. Candy was businesslike, somewhat unenthusiastic, and reticent. As I was getting comfortable, she went into the can to take a piss. Why can't providers do that prior to opening the door? She started with a crappy CBJ to get things started, then laid on the bed and asked me to get on top. I asked for CG instead. This was okay. The visuals were good with her fat heaving tits in my face and her ponytail flapping in the wind. Switched to mish, but the condom was so tight that I started to go soft. I popped it off, and the shriveled thing lying on the bed was the size of a fucking finger cot. Anyone wearing one of these must be jackhammering like a chihuhua in heat. I jerked off to get hard again and just reentered bare while she laid there identifying as a starfish. I'm super hard now and give her a good deep dicking and real.
Pounding. Finished up and cleaned up while she squatted in the shower like Joyce does and washed her patootie under the running water. One time deal. I'm going back to seeing Cherry.
She was hanging out in CP hotels 6-9 months ago, but I guess if an escort is not careful, things can change in this business.
She was one of the few moderately priced Wh girls in the Md side of the DMV and should have had an easy time making decent bucks in hotels. I wanted to check her out but was warned that she was bigger than her pics let on. So my interest waned.
Maybe she likes the track.
Happy Hunting & Sessions!
SJ.
[QUOTE=Metloaf;6537405]That's definitely a streetwalker thread discussion and reading for information.
Thanks for the Faith info.
Going pass on her.
And DC hasn't had a legit track since the middle 90's.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pbarber307;6537442]The handler told me that Cherry (came back yesterday) and Candy were available. Since I have not seen Candy, I decided to give her a try. I should have stayed with Cherry. Candy was businesslike, somewhat unenthusiastic, and reticent. As I was getting comfortable, she went into the can to take a piss. Why can't providers do that prior to opening the door? She started with a crappy CBJ to get things started, then laid on the bed and asked me to get on top. I asked for CG instead. This was okay. The visuals were good with her fat heaving tits in my face and her ponytail flapping in the wind. Switched to mish, but the condom was so tight that I started to go soft. I popped it off, and the shriveled thing lying on the bed was the size of a fucking finger cot. Anyone wearing one of these must be jackhammering like a chihuhua in heat. I jerked off to get hard again and just reentered bare while she laid there identifying as a starfish. I'm super hard now and give her a good deep dicking and real.
Pounding. Finished up and cleaned up while she squatted in the shower like Joyce does and washed her patootie under the running water. One time deal. I'm going back to seeing Cherry.[/QUOTE]Do either of them allow CIM like Tina?
[QUOTE=ScBake50;6536791]Got an itch and she was in the same hotel. So why not. Got the room # and headed up for a QV. A cute little topless Latina opened the door so I was hopeful. Downhill from there.
Donation on the table and undressed. She was on the phone with handler so I discreetly moved the door latch over. Alcohol wipe and CBJ to get going. Her body in very nice so I was good to go.
Then the "no baby" started. No sucking on tits, no DATY, no LFK, no cowgirl. But worst of all she held her hand next to her pussy to stop deep pounding.
When I couldn't finish soon enough she allowed doggie where I could finally start pounding that nice ass enough to finish in the bag.
Summary: Cute Latina with nice body but too many restriction. Typical LCS.
Will not repeat.
Damage: 1 Benjamin.
[URL]https://us-nova.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/chantilly/23042018.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I had a similar experience with the townhouse LCS. Maybe mine experience was worse. In my experience, the girl stayed on her phone for like 15 minutes after we got in the room. I didn't want to be rude and interrupt her phone call, so I tried to touch her body, which was rejected. 15 minutes later, she finally done with her phone call. I tried to touch her tits and remove her cloth, rejected. She didn't even bother to take off the panty. Instead, she move the panty to the side and hop on. This girl got big tits, and I want to see them and grab them. Again, rejected.
[QUOTE=DmvTrickGawd;6378015]Kelly in chantilly loves to get pOunded by big dicks. Tall curvy Asian.[/QUOTE]She's tall, likes to get pounded, and she's Asian. Other than that I found the experience a bit underwhelming. IMHO she's not attractive at all. Face is very plain (not even GND), her body looks like she's had work on top, midsection and bottom.
She tries to be fun and YMMV but it's a helllll no to a repeat with her. Not even in a pinch. Just not my flavor. Pics on line are not a good representation. Or maybe I didn't get Kelly since it sometimes advertise to have 2 ladies. Although she said her name is Kelly. Smh.
[QUOTE=KidFarian;6539215]She's tall, likes to get pounded, and she's Asian. Other than that I found the experience a bit underwhelming. IMHO she's not attractive at all. Face is very plain (not even GND), her body looks like she's had work on top, midsection and bottom.
She tries to be fun and YMMV but it's a helllll no to a repeat with her. Not even in a pinch. Just not my flavor. Pics on line are not a good representation. Or maybe I didn't get Kelly since it sometimes advertise to have 2 ladies. Although she said her name is Kelly. Smh.[/QUOTE]No. You got the right Kelly. She's tall and had work done.
[QUOTE=Fassbender3000;6537368][URL]https://tryst.link/escort/billiejane[/URL]
Has anybody ever seen her? I have and she's wonderful. She's based in PA, but she comes to the DMV every month. I know most guys don't want to shell out her rate, but she is totally worth it. I also know many guys don't want to give a deposit, but her reviews and reputation show that's not a problem.
So you have this tall woman who looks like the independent singer / songwriter you've always fantasized about with huge naturals, and she's very personable. I'm glad that I took my B12 that day![/QUOTE]Explain to us how she is worth 7 hundy hr and I'll totally take the plunge. Not being a sarcastic just asking because if it's a personal fantasy of yours I understand but I'll fly to dr. Nights for a few days before that. Been mongering for decades all over this planet and that's high.
The 500+ prices are ridiculous and the only ones that could be mildly worth is if it was full pse. Any girl posting that is young, skinny and has clear skin knows she's a unicorn in the scene. The quality is so low.
[QUOTE=UVAHooCru99;6539698]Explain to us how she is worth 7 hundy hr and I'll totally take the plunge. Not being a sarcastic just asking because if it's a personal fantasy of yours I understand but I'll fly to dr. Nights for a few days before that. Been mongering for decades all over this planet and that's high.[/QUOTE]
As I have progressed through this hobby, my tolerance for shenanigans has plummeted. I grow more picky. The Anjoy / Barbie group has impressed me, but they had me fuming recently.
I texted a time and requested this girl: [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/147417059[/URL].
They acknowledged and sent me the address. Good to go, right? Nah. I get to the location, let them know I'm there, and then, crickets. 10 minutes later they text a pic of a different girl saying "this girl", I re-send the original screenshot, and they respond that the girl left. Oh, and the girl I requested is in the ad linked above that they keep advertising, despite saying "she left". So, I did my diligence to make sure they know what I want, drove to the location, and they switch on me and waste a good 20 minutes of my time sitting in the parking lot.
I was not deterred, however. I had received good service from them in the past. I texted another number, went to the location they sent me, let them know I'm there and. Nothing for 10 minutes. I needed to get going so I bailed. They responded another 10 minutes later with "you here". I respectfully let them know I had to leave.
I'm ranting and should probably take it in stride, but it's frustrating stuff. A simple "please wait" would help.
[QUOTE=UVAHooCru99;6539698]Explain to us how she is worth 7 hundy hr and I'll totally take the plunge. Not being a sarcastic just asking because if it's a personal fantasy of yours I understand but I'll fly to dr. Nights for a few days before that. Been mongering for decades all over this planet and that's high.[/QUOTE]I'm used to shelling out 3 or 4 bens for an hour of GFE. With Billie, there's just a certain something there. It does help that I haven't seen any providers online who look like her or have her demeanor, and she does stand out. I imagine bet rate is higher to limit the number of potential scumbags that could contact her. I guess it's also about more than getting ones gun off. It also about the actual companionship.
[QUOTE=WillGuyMar;6540001]As I have progressed through this hobby, my tolerance for shenanigans has plummeted. I grow more picky. The Anjoy / Barbie group has impressed me, but they had me fuming recently.
I texted a time and requested this girl: [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/147417059[/URL].
They acknowledged and sent me the address. Good to go, right? Nah. I get to the location, let them know I'm there, and then, crickets. 10 minutes later they text a pic of a different girl saying "this girl", I re-send the original screenshot, and they respond that the girl left. Oh, and the girl I requested is in the ad linked above that they keep advertising, despite saying "she left". So, I did my diligence to make sure they know what I want, drove to the location, and they switch on me and waste a good 20 minutes of my time sitting in the parking lot.
I was not deterred, however. I had received good service from them in the past. I texted another number, went to the location they sent me, let them know I'm there and. Nothing for 10 minutes. I needed to get going so I bailed. They responded another 10 minutes later with "you here". I respectfully let them know I had to leave.
I'm ranting and should probably take it in stride, but it's frustrating stuff. A simple "please wait" would help.[/QUOTE]That aligns with my experience. That is why this is a LCS. It is a hit or miss. Reliability is a big question.
I've seen this chick post numerous of times in LC and she has an ad on tryst.
[URL]https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/147563711[/URL]
Has anyone have any seen her. She asks for deposit because she said she needed to prep prior because she has a kid and needs to square him away.
[QUOTE=SliderZ;6540758]I've seen this chick post numerous of times in LC and she has an ad on tryst.
[URL]https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/147563711[/URL]
Has anyone have any seen her. She asks for deposit because she said she needed to prep prior because she has a kid and needs to square him away.[/QUOTE]There is a lot of negative reviews of this one. My neighbor visited years ago. Waste of time and money. He can't believe she's still pulling her scam.
[QUOTE=SliderZ;6540758]I've seen this chick post numerous of times in LC and she has an ad on tryst.
[URL]https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/147563711[/URL]
Has anyone have any seen her. She asks for deposit because she said she needed to prep prior because she has a kid and needs to square him away.[/QUOTE]No personal experience, but a few friends who all wasted time and money on a lot of ritual but no action. Also, every review I've ever read pretty much says the same. 'nough said.
[QUOTE=ScBake50;6536791]Got an itch and she was in the same hotel. So why not. Got the room # and headed up for a QV. A cute little topless Latina opened the door so I was hopeful. Downhill from there.
Donation on the table and undressed. She was on the phone with handler so I discreetly moved the door latch over. Alcohol wipe and CBJ to get going. Her body in very nice so I was good to go.
Then the "no baby" started. No sucking on tits, no DATY, no LFK, no cowgirl. But worst of all she held her hand next to her pussy to stop deep pounding.
When I couldn't finish soon enough she allowed doggie where I could finally start pounding that nice ass enough to finish in the bag.
Summary: Cute Latina with nice body but too many restriction. Typical LCS.
Will not repeat.
Damage: 1 Benjamin.
[URL]https://us-nova.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/chantilly/23042018.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Here's a bit of advice if they bring out the alcohol wipe leave, because the service is almost never going to be good.
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/sexy-cute-and-affectionate/57919737[/URL]
Seen this at skip and I was curious text and got the right vibe. Check the add and was posting was pretty long time so I went with it.
She told me to text when get to the house and it was in dumfries. Called her when I got there she picked up and saw the skinny white.
Girl with a lot of makeup on the area looked clean and safe that's why I commited on the first place but man the place was dirty there.
Were cat there and infested with GNATS man every where it was too late for me I was allready in the room and she was nice enough.
So we started and she made out a little and played with her pussy a little and I was rock hard covered up and went in missionary and then.
Doggy she was accomodating it was just the place was too dirty and I can't work with the dirty place like that so I ended and left.
Detail: skinny had makeup on, no BBBJ or CBJ don't want to do. $ 15 damage for half hour and she wanted me to finish after 15 min.
Keep saying are you going to finish babe. Any ways here you have it. In case the add up doesn't work 571-2675.
[QUOTE=Fassbender3000;6540018]I'm used to shelling out 3 or 4 bens for an hour of GFE. With Billie, there's just a certain something there. It does help that I haven't seen any providers online who look like her or have her demeanor, and she does stand out. I imagine bet rate is higher to limit the number of potential scumbags that could contact her. I guess it's also about more than getting ones gun off. It also about the actual companionship.[/QUOTE]I totally understand the companionship part if that's what you're lacking. A little fishing on SA could get you a weekend w a 18-24 yo cutie full GFE BBFS etc. That's why I was curious. Glad she keeps the " scumbags" out though it makes her line of work seem different than all the other prostitutes.
[QUOTE=EasyEmail786;6541015][URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/sexy-cute-and-affectionate/57919737[/URL]
Seen this at skip and I was curious text and got the right vibe. Check the add and was posting was pretty long time so I went with it.
She told me to text when get to the house and it was in dumfries. Called her when I got there she picked up and saw the skinny white.
Girl with a lot of makeup on the area looked clean and safe that's why I commited on the first place but man the place was dirty there.
Were cat there and infested with GNATS man every where it was too late for me I was allready in the room and she was nice enough.
So we started and she made out a little and played with her pussy a little and I was rock hard covered up and went in missionary and then.
Doggy she was accomodating it was just the place was too dirty and I can't work with the dirty place like that so I ended and left.
Detail: skinny had makeup on, no BBBJ or CBJ don't want to do. $ 15 damage for half hour and she wanted me to finish after 15 min.
Keep saying are you going to finish babe. Any ways here you have it. In case the add up doesn't work 571-2675.[/QUOTE]The ad you linked was Alexis. I think you saw Alexis. She has dark hair. Pebbles is younger and blonde and way better than Alexis. They both work out of the nice exterior townhome but a shit hole inside.
Had planned to hit the 'anjoy' LCS, but the time I had available was Sunday, and they arent open on Sunday. I'm sure they arent going to church. Rotation day?
Anyhow, cast about a bit and hit this one up: [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/districtofcolumbia/northernvirginia/147576750[/URL].
Didn't work out so well. 100% not the girl in the picture (thought I saw her in the area though). Got a middle aged MILF with mid size bolt ons. Friendly enough, decent BBJ for warmup with a little DT. $ total. Wouldn't return but wasnt horrible.
[QUOTE=Severance15;6540922]No personal experience, but a few friends who all wasted time and money on a lot of ritual but no action. Also, every review I've ever read pretty much says the same. 'nough said.[/QUOTE]Yeah, search "Dakini" and post 9793. She like to throw around "Marrakesh", kundalini, Kama sutra, yadda yadda. Her scam goes back for years. As do those pictures.
I saw Joyce yesterday. I have been trying her Greek offering. I wanted to see if I could get her come that way. I love the way she comes in the 69 position. That loud cat like sound! I position her side to side and enter her that way and caressed her body and play with her pussy very softly. She got really wet and started moaning and started trusting back to me for more. I thought, I got her but I could not hold it. It was that good. No cigar this time but I will try again soon. Anyone has gotten her come in other position besides 69?
There have been reports that adds with the subject keywords may have a common handler. I cannot confirm or deny. Comments welcome.
Morning dreams with Anjoy (I have not Barbied) have all been with very good to Excellent looking women. None of whom speak English. A dreamer can ask for a foto before traveling to the dream location. The photos may appear to have been taken very recently. These dreams they have lots of limits, or may require considerable additional donation to go beyond base CBJ & CFS services. For some dreams, 15 minutes is sufficient. If a dreamer needs a lot of encouragement, 20 minutes may be better and have fewer limits. There may have been a dream with a knock out provider that should have gone to 30. Most provide an attempt at connection, but that is limited by language.
If you want more connection some may prefer Judy in Herndon or Joyce for only a little bit more donation. That said, these anjoy women have been among the most beautiful I have ever dreamt of.
Disfrute.
[QUOTE=Fassbender3000;6540018]I'm used to shelling out 3 or 4 bens for an hour of GFE. With Billie, there's just a certain something there. It does help that I haven't seen any providers online who look like her or have her demeanor, and she does stand out. I imagine bet rate is higher to limit the number of potential scumbags that could contact her. I guess it's also about more than getting ones gun off. It also about the actual companionship.[/QUOTE]I understand that, but the prices have skyrocketed. 5 years ago it was 3 Bens for an hr and 10 bens for 4 hrs and that's roughly the same price 8 hhr BBFS massages from an AMP, only it's with a woman fluent in English in her 20's and white so it was an amazing deal.
But the prices have doubled if not tripled and the quality certainly hasn't and the AMPs have only increased prices 10% at most the last 5 years, while also increasing the quality of the ladies, at least in terms of fluency or performance.
I'll admit to having a thing for indie chicks but an investment like that makes me feel I could easily just go on dates with similar chicks and get lucky at some point. Something about the per minute cost makes it unreasonable, I'll admit it is odd but I'd rather strike out at a bar for hours than spend that, at least when I'm making small talk I won't be burning the equivalent of a good restaurant meal every minute doing it.
Saw Silvana late last week to scratch an itch after a long time. She is definitely the one in the pictures and somewhat reserved in the beginning. I had to coax her to relax and open up (literally). Overall, I enjoyed the company and her demeanor was much better towards the end than the beginning. She also appeared to have a lot of time on her hand. Two areas of improvements - (1) there are a lot of noises, and interruptions in the apartment from the other occupants and the neighbors. With that much commotion, I wonder how much longer they are going to last in that location (2) the place needs a bit of cleaning. Some aroma therapy, etc.
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/silvana-3052041600-381406[/URL]
I would definitely go back to see if the experience improves.
[QUOTE=Cachito123;6542290]I saw Joyce yesterday. I have been trying her Greek offering. I wanted to see if I could get her come that way. I love the way she comes in the 69 position. That loud cat like sound! I position her side to side and enter her that way and caressed her body and play with her pussy very softly. She got really wet and started moaning and started trusting back to me for more. I thought, I got her but I could not hold it. It was that good. No cigar this time but I will try again soon. Anyone has gotten her come in other position besides 69?[/QUOTE]I feel like to try Greek tour. Please send me some more details. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Egotistic;6542773]I feel like to try Greek tour. Please send me some more details. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Man, there are so many reports of Joyce. Just go to the advance search in the upper right side. You will find everything you need there. Do the homework and you will be rewarded. I will be happy to the Greek tour for you just Venmo the fee to her for my services.
[QUOTE=FearlessFlash;6542616]I understand that, but the prices have skyrocketed. 5 years ago it was 3 Bens for an hr and 10 bens for 4 hrs and that's roughly the same price 8 hhr BBFS massages from an AMP, only it's with a woman fluent in English in her 20's and white so it was an amazing deal.
But the prices have doubled if not tripled and the quality certainly hasn't and the AMPs have only increased prices 10% at most the last 5 years, while also increasing the quality of the ladies, at least in terms of fluency or performance.
I'll admit to having a thing for indie chicks but an investment like that makes me feel I could easily just go on dates with similar chicks and get lucky at some point. Something about the per minute cost makes it unreasonable, I'll admit it is odd but I'd rather strike out at a bar for hours than spend that, at least when I'm making small talk I won't be burning the equivalent of a good restaurant meal every minute doing it.[/QUOTE]As far as skyrocketing prices go, I think that depends on the individual and where one goes. My favorites haven't increased their rates or decreased their enthusiasm and efforts. I think I'm fortunate enough to find others who have reasonable rates even if others up theirs.
Even with the pandemic and bad business practices, this hobby is still similar to buying a car where you can get what you want for what you're willing to shell out depending on where you look. Of course I can't see someone like Billie all the time, but the time I take to save up to see her is like saving up for a vacation and it feels good.
I've been dumb enough in the past to shell out too much for someone who gives below the minimum effort, but I've learned since then.
Anyone know of Korean's that do doubles around here?
Anyone have a lead for a very busty Latina or Asian in nova? If any help is needed in MD or Richmond I can help out. Thanks all.
Got a very nice haircut from Tara today. She's good with the clippers, and can give you a smooth taper. And oh yeah, also got a massage, a Russian and blew quick and hard with a prostate massage at the very end. Total $1. 60 for that dream. There's more on the menu, but that's all I ordered and needed today. Nice, safe Annandale location (boba tea afterward! Planning to repeat monthly--she's a sweetheart.
[QUOTE=Ffx100;6543945]Got a very nice haircut from Tara today. She's good with the clippers, and can give you a smooth taper. And oh yeah, also got a massage, a Russian and blew quick and hard with a prostate massage at the very end. Total $1. 60 for that dream. There's more on the menu, but that's all I ordered and needed today. Nice, safe Annandale location (boba tea afterward! Planning to repeat monthly--she's a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]I saw Tara few times before the Pandemic. She was always very sweet. Beautiful breast and great massage. She used to show her body and let you caress it but no other services besides prostate massage.
[QUOTE=Cachito123;6544693]I saw Tara few times before the Pandemic. She was always very sweet. Beautiful breast and great massage. She used to show her body and let you caress it but no other services besides prostate massage.[/QUOTE]If you've seen tara for a good while she opens up her menu. I've done DATY with her and FS with a condom on for about 3 Beni. She's really cool peoples if you're loyal.
Looks like Yuriko from TLH is back in the area for a little while.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/virginia/files/5657771.htm[/URL]
But, if those pictures are any indication, it looks like she got a boob job that she didn't need. Giving her a creampie last year was fun, but now I'm kind of on the fence about going back unless her rates are reasonable. Really can't stand implants, especially on someone who didn't need them in the first place.
[QUOTE=Itfcd;6546201]Looks like Yuriko from TLH is back in the area for a little while.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/virginia/files/5657771.htm[/URL]
But, if those pictures are any indication, it looks like she got a boob job that she didn't need. Giving her a creampie last year was fun, but now I'm kind of on the fence about going back unless her rates are reasonable. Really can't stand implants, especially on someone who didn't need them in the first place.[/QUOTE]Damn, those look bad.
I really appreciated that outfit. Any of the other TLH still make the rounds to the area?