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[QUOTE=Kvothe212;4315547]Has anyone taken the plunge? I have corresponded with her and hit the same 50% deposit wall. I have tried to talk her out of it but all I get is "trust me".[/QUOTE]Whenever anyone advertising as an escort says "trust me" you should run, far and fast away.
[QUOTE=Draves;4316132]Do you know / can you say who "Chloe"'s girlfriend is??[/QUOTE]I know, but can't say.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4316251]I know, but can't say.[/QUOTE]I saw the ad for Kendra Lust on Eros and thought I would have a heart attack, but then, I saw she was with the dreaded Perfection Models and immediately my heart went back in my chest.
I have heard NOTHING but bad things about them. VERY bad things. Is it worth the risk? Has anyone had a good or even okay experience with them? Kendra is delicious, but after all the shit I've heard about PC, I feel like even she isn't worth the cost of admission.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
[QUOTE=Draves;4316264]I saw the ad for Kendra Lust on Eros and thought I would have a heart attack, but then, I saw she was with the dreaded Perfection Models and immediately my heart went back in my chest.
I have heard NOTHING but bad things about them. VERY bad things. Is it worth the risk? Has anyone had a good or even okay experience with them? Kendra is delicious, but after all the shit I've heard about PC, I feel like even she isn't worth the cost of admission.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks![/QUOTE]You're taking a big gamble for a lot of money. The POS basically expects you to just fork over cash no questions asked and be happy about it. And if you even attempt to inquire further you'll get threatened with blacklisting.
Unless you REALLY want to just meet the model in person that badly and take your chances with discussing directly with her in private after having paid up, I'd say it's not worth it.
[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4316341]You're taking a big gamble for a lot of money. The POS basically expects you to just fork over cash no questions asked and be happy about it. And if you even attempt to inquire further you'll get threatened with blacklisting.
Unless you REALLY want to just meet the model in person that badly and take your chances with discussing directly with her in private after having paid up, I'd say it's not worth it.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the advice!
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4316249]Whenever anyone advertising as an escort says "trust me" you should run, far and fast away.[/QUOTE]LOL. Same thing your CIA handler would say, right before putting 3 rounds in your back.
[QUOTE=Draves;4316264]I saw the ad for Kendra Lust on Eros and thought I would have a heart attack, but then, I saw she was with the dreaded Perfection Models and immediately my heart went back in my chest.
I have heard NOTHING but bad things about them. VERY bad things. Is it worth the risk? Has anyone had a good or even okay experience with them? Kendra is delicious, but after all the shit I've heard about PC, I feel like even she isn't worth the cost of admission.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks![/QUOTE]I've used the agency before but "Chloe" is a pain in the a $$ to deal with. I saw one girl, then the next night he would text me if I was going to see her and that I should stop wasting their time. Then if you email / text Chloe about someone they would just bombard you with messages asking if you are going to see them or not, and berate you if you don't.
[QUOTE=Draves;4316264]I saw the ad for Kendra Lust on Eros and thought I would have a heart attack, but then, I saw she was with the dreaded Perfection Models and immediately my heart went back in my chest.
I have heard NOTHING but bad things about them. VERY bad things. Is it worth the risk? Has anyone had a good or even okay experience with them? Kendra is delicious, but after all the shit I've heard about PC, I feel like even she isn't worth the cost of admission.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks![/QUOTE]I have used their services. Issue is you can't ask what is allowed and what isn't or this "chloe" will be nasty over text. Between my friend and I we had about 3 different girls and ok experiences. I had an amazing time with one of my ATF pornstars and I definitely don't regret that one. 100% you do get FS in my experience but price is up there.
[QUOTE=Draves;4316264]I saw the ad for Kendra Lust on Eros and thought I would have a heart attack, but then, I saw she was with the dreaded Perfection Models and immediately my heart went back in my chest.
I have heard NOTHING but bad things about them. VERY bad things. Is it worth the risk? Has anyone had a good or even okay experience with them? Kendra is delicious, but after all the shit I've heard about PC, I feel like even she isn't worth the cost of admission.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks![/QUOTE]Truthfully, *some* people have had good experiences with "Chloe" and Perfection Models. These are the rich guys who can afford to see a different girl every week and don't much care about their quality, or their attitude. The rest of us. Well, not so much.
As others have said "Chloe" is a pita to deal with. I can say, without revealing any names or breaking any confidentiality, that the owner of the agency has been known to threaten the girls and beat them up (including his girlfriend) and he has been known to threaten guys. Whether or not he has beaten up any guys, I can't say. But he has made threats. In one case, and I don't know if it's true or not, he was rumored to have blackmailed some guys, threatening to out them to their wives, co-workers, etc.
Is it worth the risk to deal with Perfection Models? No, I don't think so. While you might have a good time or two, eventually things will sour and you will likely regret dealing with them. Many others have.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4316249]Whenever anyone advertising as an escort says "trust me" you should run, far and fast away.[/QUOTE]I did not actually take the bait. Your warnings were ringing loud and clear in my head.
Hey is Gina still the best around? Or is there someone younger that's just as good and open if not better?
[QUOTE=TonyCock113;4318292]Hey is Gina still the best around? Or is there someone younger that's just as good and open if not better?[/QUOTE]Unless you try your luck on SA with SBs, there is no one for that price point or less at that level of service, and even then SBs are not pros so they can be very hit or miss, unreliable, etc.
Gina is your best bet and probably will be for some time.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4317866]Truthfully, *some* people have had good experiences with "Chloe" and Perfection Models. These are the rich guys who can afford to see a different girl every week and don't much care about their quality, or their attitude. The rest of us. Well, not so much.
As others have said "Chloe" is a pita to deal with. I can say, without revealing any names or breaking any confidentiality, that the owner of the agency has been known to threaten the girls and beat them up (including his girlfriend) and he has been known to threaten guys. Whether or not he has beaten up any guys, I can't say. But he has made threats. In one case, and I don't know if it's true or not, he was rumored to have blackmailed some guys, threatening to out them to their wives, co-workers, etc.
Is it worth the risk to deal with Perfection Models? No, I don't think so. While you might have a good time or two, eventually things will sour and you will likely regret dealing with them. Many others have.[/QUOTE]This thread caught my interest. A little searching and you can see Chloe is some Canadian scumbag, Keith Rubuliak living in the USA Illegally.
[URL]https://pornstarescortsexposed.com/tag/kendra-lust/[/URL]
[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4319080]Unless you try your luck on SA with SBs, there is no one for that price point or less at that level of service, and even then SBs are not pros so they can be very hit or miss, unreliable, etc.
Gina is your best bet and probably will be for some time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. What is SA and SB?
[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4319080]Unless you try your luck on SA with SBs, there is no one for that price point or less at that level of service, and even then SBs are not pros so they can be very hit or miss, unreliable, etc.
Gina is your best bet and probably will be for some time.[/QUOTE]This isn't true. There are girls younger than Gina that offer most of the same BBFS some might not let civ but cim. For less money and younger. You just have to build a rapport. Gina's what pushing 50.
[QUOTE=HeroesBlend;4319422]This thread caught my interest. A little searching and you can see Chloe is some Canadian scumbag, Keith Rubuliak living in the USA Illegally.
[URL]https://pornstarescortsexposed.com/tag/kendra-lust/[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh, so his gf was Brigitte Adair, and she used to run the company, and then he stole it from her! Crazy!
[QUOTE=HeroesBlend;4319422]This thread caught my interest. A little searching and you can see Chloe is some Canadian scumbag, Keith Rubuliak living in the USA Illegally.
[URL]https://pornstarescortsexposed.com/tag/kendra-lust/[/URL][/QUOTE]Here another article [URL]https://pornstarescortsexposed.com/reader-writes-in-about-his-experience-with-keith-of-perfection-models/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Draves;4320136]Oh, so his gf was Brigitte Adair, and she used to run the company, and then he stole it from her! Crazy![/QUOTE]I didn't realize that information was out there. Yes, it's true. "Chloe" is Keith and his girlfriend is Brigitte Adair.
My experiences with him were all over TER back in the day. If the site were still up, I could pull up some of the emails I'd gotten from him, or him pretending to be Brigitte, and some of the emails I'd gotten from his various clients who he pissed off or robbed. I could tell you a bunch of stories about how he's treated some of the girls who work for him, and some of the stuff he's pulled (including trying to steal computers from another agency) but a lot of it was told to me in confidence and I don't feel comfortable sharing especially since my source would cut off my dick.
For me it started way back when he first took over the agency and was promoting Brigitte. I asked him how much a date would be and he quoted some very large number, something like $3000. I replied that no one was worth that much and certainly not Brigitte (especially since I only paid $2500 for a date with Amber Lynn who is / was much more well-known) and that set him off into a rant. Over the years, we'd gone back and forth quite regularly on the TER Porn Star Discussion board. Every time he pulled something, I called him out on it and that just pissed him off more. At one point, he threatened to kill me. I laughed at him, publicly, especially since I knew he didn't know my real name and had no way to find me. And that just pissed him off more. I think he created the persona of "Chloe" so he could post under another name and I wouldn't denounce his posts which worked all of about a month before my source told me who "Chloe" really was.
I also know that he had a habit of sending out emails to various mongers under the names of porn stars pretending to be them and trying to set up dates. It was really funny the time I got one of those emails the day before I had a date with the real girl and told her about it. She, of course, had no knowledge of it. And I found out through various sources that most of the girls he claimed to represent, he didn't. He's a total piece of work.
I could go on but. There's no point. The only thing to take away from all of this is: Stay away from Perfection Models, and Keith / Chloe.
[QUOTE=TonyCock113;4320083]Thanks for the advice. What is SA and SB?[/QUOTE]Read the list of acronyms.
[QUOTE=TonyCock113;4318292]Hey is Gina still the best around? Or is there someone younger that's just as good and open if not better?[/QUOTE]I know one that is twenty years younger than Gina and has same service available. Key word available. She charges extra fees for that. Creampie / bareback are also available for a price with most recent test results (1 week). The only downside is that she charges extra money for the crazy stuffs. Like Gina she is not a clock watcher. I always go overtime with her. Isaw her 5 times since December. She is the reason why I only fucked Gina once this year.
She is flying under the radar and wants to be as low key possible. But I noticed that it is hard to book her now, due to her popularity and civilian activity. If ter was up, she would have been top 3 in NYC.
Physically she ressembles porn actress Charlotte Sartre and she is as good as her, I think much better and nastier for the right price.
[QUOTE=RealInTheField;4320088]This isn't true. There are girls younger than Gina that offer most of the same BBFS some might not let civ but cim. For less money and younger. You just have to build a rapport. Gina's what pushing 50.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RealInTheField;4320088]This isn't true. There are girls younger than Gina that offer most of the same BBFS some might not let civ but cim. For less money and younger. You just have to build a rapport. Gina's what pushing 50.[/QUOTE]You just wrote it yourself: won't let you CIV. And how much do they charge for that? And you have to "build a rapport"? What exactly does that mean? You have to see them a few times without CIP? And will they allow CIA or BB Greek (or any greek for that matter)?
As far as I have seen, almost no one for 400/ hr or less will do everything that Gina and most of her crew does on the first session, with no upcharge, no BS, no questions asked.
If you know of anyone who is younger and better looking and key words will do everything (BBFSCIP, BB greek w / CIA, and CIM w / swallow. And we all know that isn't the full menu of what Gina offers but for me those are the main courses) for less than 400/ hr on the first session with no additional upcharge and no time or money wasted on "building a rapport", then by all means please post a link or PM me (I'll gladly offer what I have for "trade" if that's your thing as long as it's apples to apples). Especially if they don't even require you to provide test results like how Gina doesn't ask.
I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong on that.
[QUOTE=Masoko23;4320766]I know one that is twenty years younger than Gina and has same service available. Key word available. She charges extra fees for that. Creampie / bareback are also available for a price with most recent test results (1 week). The only downside is that she charges extra money for the crazy stuffs. Like Gina she is not a clock watcher. I always go overtime with her. Isaw her 5 times since December. She is the reason why I only fucked Gina once this year.
She is flying under the radar and wants to be as low key possible. But I noticed that it is hard to book her now, due to her popularity and civilian activity. If ter was up, she would have been top 3 in NYC.
Physically she ressembles porn actress Charlotte Sartre and she is as good as her, I think much better and nastier for the right price.[/QUOTE]Can you give me her details and what's the damage?
Anyone know what happened to sexi roxi aka kelly. She last made an ad May 29th. This is the second major break in past months. Is she gone for good?
[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4320989]You just wrote it yourself: won't let you CIV. And how much do they charge for that? And you have to "build a rapport"? What exactly does that mean? You have to see them a few times without CIP? And will they allow CIA or BB Greek (or any greek for that matter)?
As far as I have seen, almost no one for 400/ hr or less will do everything that Gina and most of her crew does on the first session, with no upcharge, no BS, no questions asked.
If you know of anyone who is younger and better looking and key words will do everything (BBFSCIP, BB greek w / CIA, and CIM w / swallow. And we all know that isn't the full menu of what Gina offers but for me those are the main courses) for less than 400/ hr on the first session with no additional upcharge and no time or money wasted on "building a rapport", then by all means please post a link or PM me (I'll gladly offer what I have for "trade" if that's your thing as long as it's apples to apples). Especially if they don't even require you to provide test results like how Gina doesn't ask.
I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong on that.[/QUOTE]Exactly. It'd be pretty hard to find even at the 600/ hr if they were legit so if he's talking about under 400/ hr it'll likely be backpage style with an unknown and risk.
NYC sucks for this because I think the lowest you'd find with someone legit that offers is going to be double the rate which ends up being at least 800 also not counting the chance of being blacklisted for even asking when you are trying to build a rapport.
I haven't seen Gina yet but the other person that comes to mind is CaseyXWest. I haven't seen her either but my data on her seems to point she's legit I think at 500/ hr.
Did Gina Rollins clean house asked about Sabrina and she's not avail. Also was told only 2 other girls are avail at the moment Amanda and Ingrid but their rates are $200 more then Ginas.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4320379]I didn't realize that information was out there. Yes, it's true. "Chloe" is Keith and his girlfriend is Brigitte Adair.
My experiences with him were all over TER back in the day. If the site were still up, I could pull up some of the emails I'd gotten from him, or him pretending to be Brigitte, and some of the emails I'd gotten from his various clients who he pissed off or robbed. I could tell you a bunch of stories about how he's treated some of the girls who work for him, and some of the stuff he's pulled (including trying to steal computers from another agency) but a lot of it was told to me in confidence and I don't feel comfortable sharing especially since my source would cut off my dick.
For me it started way back when he first took over the agency and was promoting Brigitte. I asked him how much a date would be and he quoted some very large number, something like $3000. I replied that no one was worth that much and certainly not Brigitte (especially since I only paid $2500 for a date with Amber Lynn who is / was much more well-known) and that set him off into a rant. Over the years, we'd gone back and forth quite regularly on the TER Porn Star Discussion board. Every time he pulled something, I called him out on it and that just pissed him off more. At one point, he threatened to kill me. I laughed at him, publicly, especially since I knew he didn't know my real name and had no way to find me.[/QUOTE]Obviously, everyone's experiences vary. I used Perfection Models before in the past but not recently. I never had to provide a driver's license or work history. I think my references sufficed. I really never had a bad experience with them, but some of the girls on the other hand were the issue (2/10 were an issue). PM always accommodated my schedule. It could have been that I was dealing with "previous management" at the time. One time I asked who "Chloe" was and they told me that there a few different people that answer the calls / texts / emails. As for the Kendra Lust situation, why is Chloe still representing her even if she got screwed? It could be a case of battered women's syndrome or something like that.
Anyway, I never had the opportunity to see Brigitte. Was / Is she as good as all the rave reviews said? I tried looking her up online but it looks like there are other people possibly using her name, also. Anyone got info?
[QUOTE=TexLonghorn;4321966]Obviously, everyone's experiences vary. I used Perfection Models before in the past but not recently. I never had to provide a driver's license or work history. I think my references sufficed. I really never had a bad experience with them, but some of the girls on the other hand were the issue (2/10 were an issue). PM always accommodated my schedule. It could have been that I was dealing with "previous management" at the time. One time I asked who "Chloe" was and they told me that there a few different people that answer the calls / texts / emails. As for the Kendra Lust situation, why is Chloe still representing her even if she got screwed? It could be a case of battered women's syndrome or something like that.
Anyway, I never had the opportunity to see Brigitte. Was / Is she as good as all the rave reviews said? I tried looking her up online but it looks like there are other people possibly using her name, also. Anyone got info?[/QUOTE]You probably were lucky. With most of the guys who had problems with PM it usually went something like: they booked a date with a porn star, the porn star didn't show up, they contacted Keith / Chloe and asked about it, and Keith would get pissed at the guy. On some occasions, Keith had gotten a deposit from the guy in advance (usually citing "travel expenses") and when the guy had the nerve to ask for their deposit back, Keith would call them a loser and refuse to talk to them any more. There were lots of stories on TER. You may have been one of the lucky ones who just didn't get on Keith's bad side for whatever reason.
Agencies have come and gone. And I could tell you many, many stories but I can say I've never had problems with agencies the way I had problems with PM or Lourdes. They stand out as being the cream of the crap.
Maybe someday I'll write a book. (grin).
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4323056]You probably were lucky. With most of the guys who had problems with PM it usually went something like: they booked a date with a porn star, the porn star didn't show up, they contacted Keith / Chloe and asked about it, and Keith would get pissed at the guy. On some occasions, Keith had gotten a deposit from the guy in advance (usually citing "travel expenses") and when the guy had the nerve to ask for their deposit back, Keith would call them a loser and refuse to talk to them any more. There were lots of stories on TER. You may have been one of the lucky ones who just didn't get on Keith's bad side for whatever reason.
Agencies have come and gone. And I could tell you many, many stories but I can say I've never had problems with agencies the way I had problems with PM or Lourdes. They stand out as being the cream of the crap.
Maybe someday I'll write a book. (grin).[/QUOTE]What problems did you have with Lourdes?
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4323056]You probably were lucky. With most of the guys who had problems with PM it usually went something like: they booked a date with a porn star, the porn star didn't show up, they contacted Keith / Chloe and asked about it, and Keith would get pissed at the guy. On some occasions, Keith had gotten a deposit from the guy in advance (usually citing "travel expenses") and when the guy had the nerve to ask for their deposit back, Keith would call them a loser and refuse to talk to them any more. There were lots of stories on TER. You may have been one of the lucky ones who just didn't get on Keith's bad side for whatever reason.
Agencies have come and gone. And I could tell you many, many stories but I can say I've never had problems with agencies the way I had problems with PM or Lourdes. They stand out as being the cream of the crap.
Maybe someday I'll write a book. (grin).[/QUOTE]I never used Lourdes. I have used EMI, Pornstar assistant, and Touring Girls. No complaints with any of them.
Does Shirley from AS do Greek. Also any info on Ingrid one of Ginas friends want to smash but for $700 want to make sure bbfs is 100 percent guaranteed.Also if anyone has info on how to find Sabrina aka ivanka let me know.
[QUOTE=Draves;4323153]What problems did you have with Lourdes?[/QUOTE]Lourdes is owned by Lita Chase. Who has absolutely no boundaries, and no respect for privacy.
[QUOTE=TexLonghorn;4323463]I never used Lourdes. I have used EMI, Pornstar assistant, and Touring Girls. No complaints with any of them.[/QUOTE]EMI is gone. Well, not entirely. Some of the office staff are still there but there are new owners, and new policies and a new name (Alluring Intros). Pornstar assistant is ok as is Touring Girls but neither has the stable of girls that other agencies have. I still think that TheLuxuryCompanion is the best of them all and if you haven't given them a try yet, you should.
[QUOTE=Chris93;4324327]Does Shirley from AS do Greek. Also any info on Ingrid one of Ginas friends want to smash but for $700 want to make sure bbfs is 100 percent guaranteed.Also if anyone has info on how to find Sabrina aka ivanka let me know.[/QUOTE]BBFS with Ingrid is NOT 100% guaranteed. In fact recent reports suggest that she has stopped offering it altogether.
Does anyone know if Carmen Marie is still around and if she does BBFS?
[QUOTE=TexLonghorn;4321966]Obviously, everyone's experiences vary. I used Perfection Models before in the past but not recently. I never had to provide a driver's license or work history. I think my references sufficed. I really never had a bad experience with them, but some of the girls on the other hand were the issue (2/10 were an issue). PM always accommodated my schedule. It could have been that I was dealing with "previous management" at the time. One time I asked who "Chloe" was and they told me that there a few different people that answer the calls / texts / emails. As for the Kendra Lust situation, why is Chloe still representing her even if she got screwed? It could be a case of battered women's syndrome or something like that.
Anyway, I never had the opportunity to see Brigitte. Was / Is she as good as all the rave reviews said? I tried looking her up online but it looks like there are other people possibly using her name, also. Anyone got info?[/QUOTE]Does anyone know of any other agency Kendra Lust is available through? Would still love to get to her, but not going to risk my life and limb for it w / PM. I tried Pamela Peaks, but she said she's not booking KL currently.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
[QUOTE=Draves;4324704]Does anyone know of any other agency Kendra Lust is available through? Would still love to get to her, but not going to risk my life and limb for it w / PM. I tried Pamela Peaks, but she said she's not booking KL currently.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks![/QUOTE]She has an advertisement in Eros.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/new_york/new_york/files/1459286.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=Draves;4324633]Does anyone know if Carmen Marie is still around and if she does BBFS?[/QUOTE]Damn dude I saw her way back in my early years of mongering real sexy lady I heard from someone it was possible but YMMV.
[QUOTE=Chris93;4324784]Damn dude I saw her way back in my early years of mongering real sexy lady I heard from someone it was possible but YMMV.[/QUOTE]Is she still around?
[QUOTE=Draves;4324829]Is she still around?[/QUOTE]I believe she is still around. I saw her a bunch of times years ago and she did BBFS for me on the second visit. I'd still be seeing her today, but she banned me for being 4 minutes late.
[QUOTE=Chris93;4324327]Does Shirley from AS do Greek. Also any info on Ingrid one of Ginas friends want to smash but for $700 want to make sure bbfs is 100 percent guaranteed.Also if anyone has info on how to find Sabrina aka ivanka let me know.[/QUOTE]Shirley does do greek.