Bullshit that has Nothing to do With Pussy

[QUOTE=Trogon;5206675]I have always found if I'm nice to them it comes back to me in a positive way.

Not all the time but I've had my share of discounted service or something along that line because I made sure they got off.

Or at least I think they did.

I'm trained in massages and I've ended up trading services.

Not a lot but enough.

I hear a lot of guys are jerks to some providers and they remember.

In the end they are human. I just don't get attached or get stupid like send money.

Thsts going too far in the end it's a business transaction.[/QUOTE]Well I will always be polite and respectful no reason to be a dick however I'm not trying to make a friend honestly I just want her to do her job that I'm paying her for, the problem is a lot of guys get caught in the cone of BS and after a while the girls tend to slack off on service from what I'm seen because you're a "nice guy" and they begin to get too comfortable.

Frankly I come in exchange pleasantries verify the details and we get to it I don't need to hear about her day her trials and tribulations or whatever sob story she's selling honestly let get it done because there's a 99% chance I got other shit to do.

[QUOTE=Bishop69;5206198]I have talked to many of my friends in this hobby and they say that I'm wrong because if I'm paying a SW for services I'm only concerned about my happiness, I am not concerned if she orgasms or not I'm honestly not putting in any additional effort it's her job to get me up and get me off that the expectations of our arrangement I'm not doing anything to enhance her experience not fingering her, kissing or anything this is not an emotional connection this is business, my thought pattern s how many of us work from companies that care if your work is fulfilling or fun that care about your general happiness, they want productivity and that's what I expect from a contractor, I'm paying you for a service provide said service. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I don't really talk to Uber drivers, the ladies that clean my house or waitresses, they have a job and I'm a customer we really could care less about each other so a fake conversation is pointless in my opinion. I feel the same about providers, I'm dude #4 for the day and as soon as I leave and that door closes they're texting dude #5 that she's ready. Try to reverse the situation, imagine you are banging 4-5 random girls a day every day for a year, think about how desensitized you'd become. Think about all the tits you'd see, all the BJs you'd receive you'd get to a point where it was all a blur and the only thing on your mind would be getting her out your room so you can finish watching the game or finish your sandwich.

[QUOTE=Jayp80;5206979]I don't really talk to Uber drivers, the ladies that clean my house or waitresses, they have a job and I'm a customer we really could care less about each other so a fake conversation is pointless in my opinion. I feel the same about providers, I'm dude #4 for the day and as soon as I leave and that door closes they're texting dude #5 that she's ready. Try to reverse the situation, imagine you are banging 4-5 random girls a day every day for a year, think about how desensitized you'd become. Think about all the tits you'd see, all the BJs you'd receive you'd get to a point where it was all a blur and the only thing on your mind would be getting her out your room so you can finish watching the game or finish your sandwich.[/QUOTE]My own humanity tells me to care enough the girls to treat them decently regardless of what they think of me. The only thing is not to care for them so much that you forget to protect yourself. Like it or not, most of them care less about you than you do about them. There are three issues. Most of them are in it for the cash. They are not looking for love, not from guys that are paying them to suck their dicks. That leads to number 2. For most girls anymore, their number one love is their illicit drug of choice. It makes many of them do anything to get ahold of their next hit. Some could win Oscars for pretending they are in love with you while trying to figure how to get more cash from you. That leads to issue number three. There are girls out there that would steal your false teeth when you weren't looking, no matter how much you think they love you. I don't disagree with the guy that says he treats them nicely. I only hope he remembers that they want from him whatever they can get that will get them their next hit, a room for the night, to keep the boyfriend from beating them, to pay the phone bill or whatever else comes before loving you. I don't even know how many of them even like men any more since most have been abused in some way, many of them multiple times. They will love you as long as you pay them. There are more than a few that would just as soon stick a blade in you. So try to remember who they are before getting too caring.

[QUOTE=Jayp80;5206979]Try to reverse the situation, imagine you are banging 4-5 random girls a day every day for a year, think about how desensitized you'd become. Think about all the tits you'd see, all the BJs you'd receive you'd get to a point where it was all a blur and the only thing on your mind would be getting her out your room so you can finish watching the game or finish your sandwich.[/QUOTE]Would be nice if girls paid us for sex.

I've always been amused by the phrase that guys post during a review: "Treat her nice and she'll treat you well. " I find the phrase to be interesting because most guys who aren't assholes are already going to be nice. They might not tip or bring her a Valentine's present but they're going to pay the rate, exchange some minor pleasantries, get into whatever was agreed upon, chit chat or say thanks, and split. A guy who is an asshole isn't going to all of a sudden change because someone else said to treat her nice.

[QUOTE=Jayp80;5206979]I don't really talk to Uber drivers, the ladies that clean my house or waitresses, they have a job and I'm a customer we really could care less about each other so a fake conversation is pointless in my opinion. I feel the same about providers, I'm dude #4 for the day and as soon as I leave and that door closes they're texting dude #5 that she's ready. Try to reverse the situation, imagine you are banging 4-5 random girls a day every day for a year, think about how desensitized you'd become. Think about all the tits you'd see, all the BJs you'd receive you'd get to a point where it was all a blur and the only thing on your mind would be getting her out your room so you can finish watching the game or finish your sandwich.[/QUOTE]Too much of anything isn't good. I don't care who you are.

Not sure where else to post this question, but any suggestions on where to find Doms? Not really into the "dungeon scene" Doms that seem to post ads. More looking for maybe a disciplinarian type. BDSM without the dungeon. A nice suburban MILF with a minivan and a paddle would be just perfect. LOL. Looking to role play out my teenage baby sitting years from long ago. Seems like this has to be a thing, but having trouble getting started finding resources / boards for it.

Sounds like some of you guys got your heart broken over a provider or girlfriend.

[QUOTE=RonM;5207427]Sounds like some of you guys got your heart broken over a provider or girlfriend.[/QUOTE]I don't see it that way. It's just reminders that this is a business. These girls don't care about the men. Don't fall in love with them.

[QUOTE=RonM;5207427]Sounds like some of you guys got your heart broken over a provider or girlfriend.[/QUOTE]You might be right. I call it reality. Regardless of the feelings of mongers, the girls are what they are. I hope you don't have a problem with advising mongers to protect themselves- in love or otherwise. But since you brought it up and I see you have a lot of posts, if anyone who has been in this game for any length of time and has been active tries to tell me they have never been ripped off, I would call them a liat to their face.

[QUOTE=Ump1969;5208327]You might be right. I call it reality. Regardless of the feelings of mongers, the girls are what they are. I hope you don't have a problem with advising mongers to protect themselves- in love or otherwise. But since you brought it up and I see you have a lot of posts, if anyone who has been in this game for any length of time and has been active tries to tell me they have never been ripped off, I would call them a liat to their face.[/QUOTE]I've been ripped off before way back when I got into this game. I learned my lesson never to have it happen again.

[QUOTE=JumpSmoker90;5227703]
the amount of carjackings has dramatically increased since last year.
[/QUOTE]Frankly, I'm more inclined to avoid the city in general, the level of craziness has increased so much, and there's no end in sight, IMO.

That's not to say that something tasty can't lure me in, but I definitely give it more thought.

This is due to: the complete demoralization of the police due to the de-fund bullshit and the impossibility of of using any sort of force against minorities without the media and brass shitting on the police; a state's attorney more interested in "social justice" than prosecution; and the recently passed and signed no cash bail law. These all look to make things worse, rather than better.

[QUOTE=Ump1969;5231010]
Worried? Yes. Just take extra precautions. Know where you are parking. Keep an eye on what is going around you. If she is doing an especially good job and has you rolling your head in ectasy, I'd remember you are supposed to be paying attention to what is going on around you

But in today's climate, carjackings are an extra level of danger. I know some of of you are van denizens. Good for you! Make sure the doors are locked.[/QUOTE]And this is part of why cardates are less interesting to me. I still follow this thread, I still ask questions, but I'm not sure I'll ever act on any of it.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5231114]Frankly, I'm more inclined to avoid the city in general, the level of craziness has increased so much, and there's no end in sight, IMO.

That's not to say that something tasty can't lure me in, but I definitely give it more thought.

This is due to: the complete demoralization of the police due to the de-fund bullshit and the impossibility of of using any sort of force against minorities without the media and brass shitting on the police; a state's attorney more interested in "social justice" than prosecution; and the recently passed and signed no cash bail law. These all look to make things worse, rather than better.

And this is part of why cardates are less interesting to me. I still follow this thread, I still ask questions, but I'm not sure I'll ever act on any of it.[/QUOTE]George makes a good point about the police. It's kind of amusing if you think about it. Here we are for years, having been worried about too much LEO enforcement. Now we have to worry about the bad guys because they are not worried as much about the police.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5231114]Frankly, I'm more inclined to avoid the city in general, the level of craziness has increased so much, and there's no end in sight, IMO.

That's not to say that something tasty can't lure me in, but I definitely give it more thought.

This is due to: the complete demoralization of the police due to the de-fund bullshit and the impossibility of of using any sort of force against minorities without the media and brass shitting on the police; a state's attorney more interested in "social justice" than prosecution; and the recently passed and signed no cash bail law. These all look to make things worse, rather than better.

And this is part of why cardates are less interesting to me. I still follow this thread, I still ask questions, but I'm not sure I'll ever act on any of it.[/QUOTE]It's clear you have some animosity towards minorities by this response. Might be better in the bullshit that has nothing to do with pussy thread instead.

Less competition for the rest of us *shrugs*.

[QUOTE=Fdottt;5231323]It's clear you have some animosity towards minorities by this response. [/QUOTE]It's clear that you don't know shit about me. Plug "Ferguson Effect" into a search engine and do some reading.

ETA: I may well have more to say about this, but if so, I'll do it in the "Bullshit..." thread.