Agency Discussion and Reviews

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7084062]What if I'm into top tier looks with top tier service? LOL.[/QUOTE]Let me know as soon as you find it. My top girl for looks is 10-7 (Looks-Service). My top girl for service is 7-9. There has never been a 9-9, but there is a 9-8 in Allie in SD. But she is so popular she will never leave SD, she'll be here 3 months. Most girls leave after a week. This is why we don't dare gatekeep the best girls, they'll just leave.

My suggestion is to find your 7-9 girl and close your eyes. Take the win.

I'm in the minority where I "bring my service" and seduce the younger girls who are 9's and 10's. But most guys hate the idea so I can't recommend it.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7084461]Let me know as soon as you find it. My top girl for looks is 10-7 (Looks-Service). My top girl for service is 7-9. There has never been a 9-9, but there is a 9-8 in Allie in SD. But she is so popular she will never leave SD, she'll be here 3 months. Most girls leave after a week. This is why we don't dare gatekeep the best girls, they'll just leave.

My suggestion is to find your 7-9 girl and close your eyes. Take the win.

I'm in the minority where I "bring my service" and seduce the younger girls who are 9's and 10's. But most guys hate the idea so I can't recommend it.[/QUOTE]I'm all for breaking the ice and seducing beautiful but cold girls. But when it goes the way it did with Syuki, I'm turned off and no longer into her. And I've tried closing my eyes with a 7 that has great service, but it has to be really amazing service for me to overlook unattractiveness.

Shelly for example was a K girl here about a month ago. Mid 30's, thicker body so completely not my type, I prefer Elsa and Etsuko type of slim, perky bodies. But DFK and dick grab at the door, into a shower that was less showering and more grinding her body and pussy on my body and dick while there's soap on us, into no holds barred in the bedroom. I didn't do anything extreme with her like tying her up or anything, but she's down for all the common fetishes mentioned here. And all this is without upcharge, except for BBFS. I loved it, Shelly was one average looks girl I could definitely see multiple times.

Compare this to Yume Hanabi from NYC, she went by another name down here. Older J girl, in her 30's with similar body to Shelly. Thick with average face. Her routine in NYC was to give you a table shower where 60 seconds in, she's got you cleaned up, face down on the table with your ass in the air and she's tasting your insides. Then a few minutes after that, she's flipping you over and sliding you in her pussy bare. Then if you ever even brush past her asshole, she's grabbing you and putting you up her butt. I remember the first time I saw her, we moved from her in cowgirl on the table to her standing next to the table while I put it in from behind. I was prodding with my dick while finding her pussy and prodded her asshole once, didn't even go inside. She instantly grabs lube by the soap bottle, lubes my dick and her asshole, works my head inside her butt, then slams her ass back taking my dick balls deep up her pooper. Never have I had a J girl fuck me back in doggie like she did, never mind she's fucking me back hard while it's up her ass instead of pussy. By the time it gets too hot in the tableshower room and we clean up and go to her bedroom, most guys who nut fast have probably dropped a load in at least 2 of her holes. Action doesn't slow down in the bedroom, she's down for any hole in any order. Best of all, this girl kept clean so her ass didn't stink, nor was her pussy fishy. Clean and kinky.

By the time we finished up, I was ready to pull out my wallet and give her whatever reasonable amount she asked for. She could have told me 200 BBFS, 200 anal, 100 more for facefucking, rimjob, and ass to mouth and ass to pussy and I'd pay up happy. Instead, she told me it was all free. I was shocked. If I lived in NYC, I would have locked her down. But I was only in town for a short time and had other pussy that was younger and hotter to try, so I never got around to it.

She surprisingly came down to DC a while back, and the experience was totally different. Sure, she's down for anal still, but now it's an upcharge, rimjob is upcharge, etc etc. Wasn't a hot slutty session from the get go. If a girl like Elsa, or Etsuko, or any of the other hotter girls of the past like Noa offered those upcharges, I'd be totally down. But when they come from a 35 yo mom bod, I'm not interested at all. Didn't pay for any extras except BBFS and didn't have any fun the entire time.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7084461]Let me know as soon as you find it. My top girl for looks is 10-7 (Looks-Service). My top girl for service is 7-9. There has never been a 9-9, but there is a 9-8 in Allie in SD. But she is so popular she will never leave SD, she'll be here 3 months. Most girls leave after a week. This is why we don't dare gatekeep the best girls, they'll just leave.

My suggestion is to find your 7-9 girl and close your eyes. Take the win.

I'm in the minority where I "bring my service" and seduce the younger girls who are 9's and 10's. But most guys hate the idea so I can't recommend it.[/QUOTE]Yuki etsuko was 9/9 before Hani. After Hani, Yuki / etsuko became 9/7.5. Hani is maybe 7/9.

Looks wise, Jora is the girl in the photos 100%. Slim with perfect sized man made Cs for her frame. Slightly hard, but still nice to feel. Face is more mature for her age, but still gorgeous. Think of like Sooyoung from Girls Generation.

The catch is she is very new, only been working for 4 weeks total. She isn't nervous, but she doesn't have the full kgirl routine down yet. I saw on TER some dudes were complaining she was more demure and passive, but she let me take the lead with wherever I lead her and she was passionate about it. Daty, 69, CG / AVG, doggy, mish, standing mish, lotus, etc. If you know how to be dominant in the bed she'll more than please you.

TOFTT.

Saw her today and wow Terrible experience; idk who is reviewing girls these days but just be careful.

Tits are like a larger D not a G or whatever it says, small strange scars in the middle of tits, she does not do any BBFS at all; she's very paranoid about it. Breath kinda smells, I'm pretty sure she's like mid 40's late 40's. She is nice I will say but seems uninterested, very fake in emotion etc. Pussy is like a 4/10 little hair and doesn't even like the blue toast. Pissed I wasted 350 $ but it is what it is. Bbj was like a 5/10 just I don't understand the people reviewing these girls, ass little flat face very mid.

Stay away, genuinley c girls respectfully arent even worth seeing. Stick to k girls.

[QUOTE=DanStew;7084557]TOFTT.

Saw her today and wow Terrible experience; idk who is reviewing girls these days but just be careful.

Tits are like a larger D not a G or whatever it says, small strange scars in the middle of tits, she does not do any BBFS at all; she's very paranoid about it. Breath kinda smells, I'm pretty sure she's like mid 40's late 40's. She is nice I will say but seems uninterested, very fake in emotion etc. Pussy is like a 4/10 little hair and doesn't even like the blue toast. Pissed I wasted 350 $ but it is what it is. Bbj was like a 5/10 just I don't understand the people reviewing these girls, ass little flat face very mid.

Stay away, genuinley c girls respectfully arent even worth seeing. Stick to k girls.[/QUOTE]You are hero for posting this. A girl can be worth seeing but no need to hype her and leave guys disappointed. Attitude and effort are so important, they are the bare minimum. You should feel welcome and wanted. Cgirls tend to be very afraid of bbfs. Kgirls are divided. Jgirls a lot more open. I think the main good point of kgirls is they consistently have a good attitude and make you feel welcome. Cgirls can be cute but are sometimes a bit too transactional.

Out of curiosity I did a search on this forum and the only reviews I see are copied from TER. There are no USAG reviews. TER has only 3 reviews, which is a red flag because they will shill a girl one or two times early on. So you would be making decisions on a fake review. Miya got a 10/9 by one guy who said "The pics are shockingly accurate, besides the face having some light shopping done. Her face is like a kpop idol. Her waist is like a kpop idol. Her breasts are like a pornstar". These 10s are meaningless. If you have VIP on TER, click on the reviewer's name, 4 out of 7 of his reviews are 10s!
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/searchbyreviewerResults.asp?MemberName=gburn[/URL]

I don't trust TER review numbers, all I do is read them if there are pages and pages of them. Otherwise if it's a few reviews, I just close the tab without bothering to read the fan fiction. A lot of times it's a white knight who thinks he's helping a girl by describing her like that, exaggerating his own experience. Can't stop that, you can only write your own reviews on USAG. More problematic, we must remember that on the East Coast people are paid by bookers to write inflated positive reviews:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33082-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7076473&viewfull=1#post7076473[/URL] Recent example
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=7078481&viewfull=1#post7078481[/URL] PSA

We can't rely on TER. Write your own reviews, when enough people do it it will solve itself. I always invite others to correct my posts too, one time I said that Jira stroked me to start msog on her own even though I didn't ask. So another guy said "but she didn't do it for me". And he's right, people should see both examples to get a full picture. What I could have done better is add ymmv or say "she did it twice out of four visits", but really I have no idea what other people got. We all need multiple takes on the same girl, the more the better.

Just yesterday I was showing what happens with shilling on USAG. I found 3 posts on Tifa:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31533-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7049961&viewfull=1#post7049961[/URL] 1st post shilling Tifa saying she is "very pretty and young".
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7055302&viewfull=1#post7055302[/URL] Someone read that review to see Tifa and said "average face not young" but good otherwise.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7056108&viewfull=1#post7056108[/URL] Agreed by someone who likes her.

The first of the 3 is now banned and labeled a shill by admin (look right below username). Shilling is so silly. She was good enough to see without saying she was young and pretty. In extreme cases it just makes a shilled girl look bad to hear us follow up with "Yes she is good service but she is 40's not 20's". We don't need to call anyone out at all, if you see a review that doesn't line up then simply share your own experience politely. Exactly like DanStew did here. With this feedback, over time people will stay realistic and we will know who is giving honest reviews.

With Hani, one person PM'd me saying they had really great service, but didn't like her face. I get that. She looks like a girl I once had a crush on so I know I'm going to like her more than others. She is GND, it is up to personal taste. I think I described her body accurately. What I hope though is the person who didn't like Hani's face still posts their take anyways. Add it to the pile. They liked everything else about her, a lot of positives too. With these takes, people who are looking for a fun time will go in and get more or less what we've all described. Those people won't be disappointed, they will stumble out possibly amazed. It's clear we're all describing the same girl with realistic differences. Imagine if all girls were described honestly in this detail.

[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7084541]Yuki etsuko was 9/9 before Hani. After Hani, Yuki / etsuko became 9/7.5. Hani is maybe 7/9.[/QUOTE]

I've had the same thing happen. Girls I thought were 9s and 10s are now 7 through 9 after meeting an impossibly better girl. This is where it helps when each reviewer has reviewed a lot of different girls. But honestly I'm just happy to consistently have 7s and up. Then I repeat with who I like. My main goal is avoiding the disappointments, and helping others do the same.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7084507]Shelly for example was a K girl here about a month ago. Mid 30's, thicker body so completely not my type, I prefer Elsa and Etsuko type of slim, perky bodies. But DFK and dick grab at the door, into a shower that was less showering and more grinding her body and pussy on my body and dick while there's soap on us, into no holds barred in the bedroom. I didn't do anything extreme with her like tying her up or anything, but she's down for all the common fetishes mentioned here. And all this is without upcharge, except for BBFS. I loved it, Shelly was one average looks girl I could definitely see multiple times.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree, a lot of guys have the same idea. Looks can make up for service and service make up for looks, but only within reason. I've found that girls who really have both are fewer than you would expect. For reasons that aren't hard to imagine. But we of course want both.

For my part, if I have to choose just high looks or high service, lately I am going for looks. That's why I say I bring my service - the girl has to have good attitude of course. If she does, she qualifies into the HYA lists. I even made a photo guide to compare HYAs vs models. Lizza's body in the shower looks just like Ikumi's in the 3rd+4th photos:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7083456&viewfull=1#post7083456[/URL]

[QUOTE=InterestingBro;7083996]First time posting here. I'm relatively new to this hobby. I've seen 4 girls the last few months but I was curious if the double is worth it at all? I saw the JB special and it peaked my interest but was curious how it normally goes?[/QUOTE]Long time no chat, brother. Welcome. Doubles means you're booking to separate sessions. Example: 1 girl at 10 am, the 2nd girl at 11 am. Duos is when you get a 3 some.

This is just a market observation of mine; it might not be entirely accurate, but I feel it could become an issue.

Following the weekly discounts from DMVG and Kstar, JB has also started offering discounts, and I just saw that DMVG also has a Halloween discount.

Hani, who has been coming here several times over the past 2 years, has now become the most popular girl.

This phenomenon is the best evidence that DMV is experiencing a significant talent drain, both for K girls and J girls, especially for J girls. Whether it's AHG, JB, Asianelf, or the newly opened Firefox, none of them have high-quality J girls anymore. This starkly contrasts the brief flourishing period before the discounts when we had top-tier J girls like Yuki, Saki, and Pink. Firefox was supposed to bring in two new girls last week, but their ads disappeared in less than a day (I saw an ad for one of them, Ruka, on the NYCSE website, so it looks like she decided last minute to go to NYC). I was thinking of trying Miya, but I saw reviews here that were the opposite of those on TER. Thanks for that, save my money. I met Lisa at ELF last week and just was told that tomorrow would be her last day, and I was also informed by the booker that Gigi had already left.

I initially thought such market competition might be a good thing.

Thanks for the Intel. Thought doubles meant threesome too.

[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7084766]Long time no chat, brother. Welcome. Doubles means you're booking to separate sessions. Example: 1 girl at 10 am, the 2nd girl at 11 am. Duos is when you get a 3 some.[/QUOTE]

Will pass now. The staring at the ceiling is an instant wood and mood killer for me. At least try to act engaged. Last time someone did that to me I was like whatever, let's shower and left. And I'm generally extremely nice. If I wanted a dead fish I. Could find one that's not $360.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7084062]I do not recommend Syuki. What I expected before walking in the door was a super hot girl that provided decent service, but charged a higher price for BBFS. Here's my take:

Pros: very pretty, cute face, small perky boobs and butt, white skin. Photos are accurate. Only physical negative is many self-cutting scars on her left arm, going from wrist to inside of elbow. A few near her elbow looked fairly fresh, the scar still red and angry, while the ones near wrist were faded white with time.

Cons: Awful service. Not warm, no smile and big hug or kiss when greeting me, much less DFK at the door like many K girls. I had to initiate with a hug and a peck on the lips.

Breath smelled strange, like weed or maybe a mix of coffee and morning breath. I was a bit turned off, but after we had our mouthwash it was noticeably better.

Standard shower, no preview or body rub. Low energy in bed, I had tried to engage her the moment I walked in the door with Japanese convo, light touching, massaging her shoulders while we showered, as well as lightly teasing and kissing her body, boobs, and pussy in bed to try and turn her on. None of this worked. Went from gently licking her nipples to giving a tongue bath downwards, to kissing and teasing her thighs, to eating her pussy. All of this time, she gave the same standard ugh ugh moans, on beat like a metronome. At one point after being down there for a few minutes, I looked up and she was absentmindedly staring at the ceiling with eyes wide open, not at all turned on. I knew it was futile at that point and made my way back up and had her start on me.

She didn't get any more passionate when it was her turn. No deep kissing down to nipples, down to dick like good service girls do. She just got up, licked nipples for a bit, then went down to dick. Lazy BJ, didn't get more than 2 inches in her mouth. Didn't play with balls or vary technique, just the same up and down motion on the top while grasping the shaft with her hand. Lazy during cowgirl, barely moved up and down. I tried to get her to grind back and forth but she didn't know how, even after I put my hands on her hips and tried to show her. We switched to mish and doggie, and she started blocking. In mish, couldn't put her legs on my shoulders, said her body wasn't flexible and kept her legs to my sides. Blocked access a bit, then in doggie she refused to arch her back or didn't know how to. Had a humpback and therefore the angle was more shallow into her pussy.

At this point I was over it, tried to get into hate fucking mode. Spanked her a little and once it was more than just light taps, she said it hurt so I stopped. Didn't allow hair pulling, kept her hair clip in the entire session even when she's laying down in mish and it must have been uncomfortable. Didn't allow choking, I put my hand around her throat and before I even applied pressure she said no. Brushed her asshole with a finger during CG and she said no. Not kinky at all. Then add on top of that 200/250 for COP / CIP.

If all you want is for a pretty girl with a nice perky body to stare at the ceiling while you pay a premium to fuck her bareback, then Syuki is your girl. Otherwise I wouldn't go for it.

Yuka on the other hand, I expected much less pretty than Syuki based on pics. She actually has almost as nice of a body, pretty with nice ass and tits. Her toes are stubby and short, and she doesn't have her nails done though, so feet guys beware.

She has decent service, was animated and engaged the moment I walked in and tried to have a conversation with me. Still a bit inexperienced when it comes to actually sucking and fucking, like her BJ wasn't great but it was due to just not having many techniques, not lack of trying. She seemed slightly injured though, she didn't block in mish or doggie but occasionally winced when I went deep in either position. I stopped multiple times to ask her if she was okay and if it hurt, and she always said it didn't, but I think she was just trying to fake it for my benefit which I appreciate. Towards the end she was a little more quiet, maybe because it takes me a long time to cum so she was a bit tired / hurt.

Still, much better experience than Syuki.

What if I'm into top tier looks with top tier service? LOL.[/QUOTE]

Did she not recognize you? You would think after that first experience, why'all would have had some sort of connection but I guess maybe she didn't make as much money as she expected and turned jaded?

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7084507]She surprisingly came down to DC a while back, and the experience was totally different.[/QUOTE]

For the Hani reccs. I will report back!

[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7084541]Yuki etsuko was 9/9 before Hani. After Hani, Yuki / etsuko became 9/7.5. Hani is maybe 7/9.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7084766]Long time no chat, brother. Welcome. Doubles means you're booking to separate sessions. Example: 1 girl at 10 am, the 2nd girl at 11 am. Duos is when you get a 3 some.[/QUOTE]Wow thank you for the heads up! I would have been pissed haha.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7084062]I do not recommend Syuki. What I expected before walking in the door was a super hot girl that provided decent service, but charged a higher price for BBFS. Here's my take: Pros: very pretty, cute face, small perky boobs and butt, white skin. Photos are accurate. Only physical negative is many self-cutting scars on her left arm, going from wrist to inside of elbow. A few near her elbow looked fairly fresh, the scar still red and angry, while the ones near wrist were faded white with time. Cons: Awful service. Not warm, no smile and big hug or kiss when greeting me, much less DFK at the door like many K girls. I had to initiate with a hug and a peck on the lips. Breath smelled strange, like weed or maybe a mix of coffee and morning breath. I was a bit turned off, but after we had our mouthwash it was noticeably better. Standard shower, no preview or body rub. Low energy in bed, I had tried to engage her the moment I walked in the door with Japanese convo, light touching, massaging her shoulders while we showered, as well as lightly teasing and kissing her body, boobs, and pussy in bed to try and turn her on. None of this worked. Went from gently licking her nipples to giving a tongue bath downwards, to kissing and teasing her thighs, to eating her pussy. All of this time, she gave the same standard ugh ugh moans, on beat like a metronome. At one point after being down there for a few minutes, I looked up and she was absentmindedly staring at the ceiling with eyes wide open, not at all turned on. I knew it was futile at that point and made my way back up and had her start on me...[/QUOTE]Thanks for Syuki info & TOFTT.

Really liked her photos & almost called to book.

I'm ok w no performance or dead fish as long as pretty like Elsa grade.

But can't stand bad breath.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=FoxIndc;7084804]This is just a market observation of mine; it might not be entirely accurate, but I feel it could become an issue.

Following the weekly discounts from DMVG and Kstar, JB has also started offering discounts, and I just saw that DMVG also has a Halloween discount.

Hani, who has been coming here several times over the past 2 years, has now become the most popular girl.

This phenomenon is the best evidence that DMV is experiencing a significant talent drain, both for K girls and J girls, especially for J girls. Whether it's AHG, JB, Asianelf, or the newly opened Firefox, none of them have high-quality J girls anymore. This starkly contrasts the brief flourishing period before the discounts when we had top-tier J girls like Yuki, Saki, and Pink. Firefox was supposed to bring in two new girls last week, but their ads disappeared in less than a day (I saw an ad for one of them, Ruka, on the NYCSE website, so it looks like she decided last minute to go to NYC). I was thinking of trying Miya, but I saw reviews here that were the opposite of those on TER. Thanks for that, save my money. I met Lisa at ELF last week and just was told that tomorrow would be her last day, and I was also informed by the booker that Gigi had already left.

I initially thought such market competition might be a good thing.[/QUOTE]I've considered going up to NY at this point. Pinwheel has been giving me the nudge nudge. But motivation is on the low side right now.