I had the girls name wrong. It's not Emily, her name is Julie actually.
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I had the girls name wrong. It's not Emily, her name is Julie actually.
[QUOTE=FlyByNature90;3754272]I had the girls name wrong. It's not Emily, her name is Julie actually.[/QUOTE]Just to let you know it called Yuan Yuan.
This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.
I have been told by therapist that it could be they are bored with you. Could be hygeine issue, Size and your weight. I heard couple say old guys can't get hard or cum and keep wanting the girl to stroke it.
[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;3754516]This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;3754516]This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.[/QUOTE]I had an ATF that declined my business after two years. She said I was emotionally draining her every time we met. I think she was scared of getting hurt.
[QUOTE=Riina;3754872]I had an ATF that declined my business after two years. She said I was emotionally draining her every time we met. I think she was scared of getting hurt.[/QUOTE]Hey man, I feel you too. My long time regular 1. 5 yrs told me that she only views me as a "good friend" even though she has a husband and has been doing FS with me regularly for this time!
It is interesting how they text you with hearts and hugs and tell you that they miss you and want to see you. Once, you go there for appointment, it is like ok lets get to it (FS) then shower then water then.
Confirm with you a follow up appointment in couple of weeks! Total lack of true affection!
[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;3754516]This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.[/QUOTE]I've never had that happen to me & I've done this for awhile. I also talked to a few gals. I was curious if others stayed in shape like me- I'm not perfect but I workout regularly. She said no, many are very overweight. I'm not judging- it's cool- just curious. That wouldn't stop them. Gals massage older guys, younger guys, overweight guys, thin guys, bald guys, etc. They don't care. So I'm guessing it might be a hygiene issue like the other poster said- that one could be a deal breaker- unless maybe she's going to be the manager & do less massages or something. Always make sure you shower, etc. before hand and clean any area that might be an issue. And that means ANY area. If you need to do some manscaping on your back, or elsewhere better do that too. One of the American places in Belvidere (ERS)- used to force guys to shower before hand- even if some of us already showered like me which was kind of a pain. Brush your teeth, use mouthwash, don't have garlic for lunch, etc. Don't wear cologne or after shave. That's all I can think of. If all else fails just ask her what's the deal?
[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;3754516]This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.[/QUOTE]How about asking her why your spa ATF is referring you to other girls.
Stopped by this place at 915 S. Western to check it out after a session at Yuan Yuan (mentioned below). I had been there over a year ago, but I'm always curious about changes in provider's, etc. Got pricing info from a gal named Zeno, who used to work at Lolium Spa at Western near North Ave. She acted like she didn't recognize me but I sure remembered her. Has anyone seen her at this place? Any extras available?
Thanks!
I don't consider this bragging. You should ask her why she is pawning you off.
[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;3754516]This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3755456]I don't consider this bragging. You should ask her why she is pawning you off.[/QUOTE]When my ATF offered to "vouch" for me with others in the same spa a couple years ago I declined. And whether directly connected or not, I have to say I've been rewarded with a pretty amazing menu as time has gone on.
[QUOTE=Biliator;3755504]When my ATF offered to "vouch" for me with others in the same spa a couple years ago I declined. And whether directly connected or not, I have to say I've been rewarded with a pretty amazing menu as time has gone on.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the opinions. Definitely some food for thought. To clarify though, I think the last five times I've been to the spa my ATF did see me once. The other girls she referred me were newer to the spa so perhaps she just wanted to mix things up for me to give me some variety. Anyway, not a terrible problem to have for sure!
[QUOTE=Biliator;3755504]When my ATF offered to "vouch" for me with others in the same spa a couple years ago I declined. And whether directly connected or not, I have to say I've been rewarded with a pretty amazing menu as time has gone on.[/QUOTE]Seems like she was testing your "loyalty" to her, to find out if you really meant all those great things you told her. Sounds like you made the right decision this time.
I can think of a couple possibilities. (1) It could be a test. If you decline to opportunity to see other girls perhaps you are demonstrating loyalty. (2) As others have said, You might be a difficult client (in her eyes) (3) She might be married and be worried that she is getting to close to you. Or perhaps her husband (if there is one) insisted that she cool it off with you. (4) The manager might be telling her she has to share you with the new girls. In our shop we just got a new girl, so we are needing to make sure she gets some business. Probably a lot more possible reasons.
Bob.
[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;3754516]This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Miamiat;3755294]Stopped by this place at 915 S. Western to check it out after a session at Yuan Yuan (mentioned below). I had been there over a year ago, but I'm always curious about changes in provider's, etc. Got pricing info from a gal named Zeno, who used to work at Lolium Spa at Western near North Ave. She acted like she didn't recognize me but I sure remembered her. Has anyone seen her at this place? Any extras available?
Thanks![/QUOTE]I stop in there at times when traffic is bad on 290. The experience is usually mediocre one time I went there and she didn't have any massage oil and she used lotion for an awful massage. The next time I went I bought some with me, but she had some there already the menu is standard like most AMPs. It's cool if you are stuck in traffic and want to get right back on the express way. I think most people usually just drive to Chicago ave and partake in the options over there though, since they have a better selection of MTs at places there.
[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;3754516]This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.[/QUOTE]I think some of the better providers try to graduate from "working" at the spa to managing it. They're trying to become pimps, basically.
[QUOTE=Angai;3756738]I stop in there at times when traffic is bad on 290. The experience is usually mediocre one time I went there and she didn't have any massage oil and she used lotion for an awful massage. The next time I went I bought some with me, but she had some there already the menu is standard like most AMPs. It's cool if you are stuck in traffic and want to get right back on the express way. I think most people usually just drive to Chicago ave and partake in the options over there though, since they have a better selection of MTs at places there.[/QUOTE]So a standard HJ finish? Should I see Zeno or is there another provider who you saw?
[QUOTE=Bob521;3756315]I can think of a couple possibilities. (1) It could be a test. If you decline to opportunity to see other girls perhaps you are demonstrating loyalty. (2) As others have said, You might be a difficult client (in her eyes) (3) She might be married and be worried that she is getting to close to you. Or perhaps her husband (if there is one) insisted that she cool it off with you. (4) The manager might be telling her she has to share you with the new girls. In our shop we just got a new girl, so we are needing to make sure she gets some business. Probably a lot more possible reasons.
Bob.[/QUOTE]And on the flip side, sometimes when the owner / manager is also a MT, she keeps you to herself if she knows you're a good tipper, and the other girls get POed. For instance, I used to go to a EMP in the NW burbs. You can find it on CL. I got a good rotation of the girls, but once the manager took me herself, I notice from then on she was the only one who was ever available, for me. My reward for being a good customer who's no trouble, repeats and tips good.
Couple of the girls including my ATFs have told me about some of the drama behind the scenes among the girls. Too bad we can't make a Real World AMP! I'd be a regular audience that's for sure!
[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;3754516]This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.[/QUOTE]Mts, that we go to are females, and not very happy in life (long hours, shitty job, way too many horny ss holes etc), so a lot of them are dreaming of leaving the fucken (fucking) business. However, there are not too many, if any, men in their life, except us, the clients. Thus, sometimes they confuse our politeness and attention with something else, and see the client as a potential marriage material. If they realize that there is no progress beyond A HJ, they get upset, frustrated, disappointed, even insulted. That shitty misunderstanding had happened to me twice, just because I tipped better, brought some ice cream when I was running late for my appointment, was polite and listened to their BS stories and looked at their family's photos etc. But, once they came to realization that it goes nowhere, that my affection was just the fruit of their fucked up imagination, they became ice cold bitches, watching the fucken clock, always moody (like our wifes having pms). The conclusion is, it's risky to be too nice.
[QUOTE=DonTheMon;3740422]Gunnison spa shut down Friday night by Chicago officials. Said to be prostitution and cops loaded up on a ton of evidence Friday night. Said to include names of some of the regular customers. Hope any of you mongers never left any evidence at this place. The place seemed to be getting better. This was a surprise. But cops love to surprise. Guess there were no customers there at the time. Well. Time to move on.[/QUOTE]I noticed it was gone when I went by there a couple of days ago. Was not a regular there but did go I think twice a while ago. IIRC they didn't have a table shower and I like those so I hadn't been there in a long time.
Wonder how many gallons of cum were spurted in that place.
Oh well I'm sure another will pop up soon.
[QUOTE=Bob521;3756315]I can think of a couple possibilities. (1) It could be a test. If you decline to opportunity to see other girls perhaps you are demonstrating loyalty. (2) As others have said, You might be a difficult client (in her eyes) (3) She might be married and be worried that she is getting to close to you. Or perhaps her husband (if there is one) insisted that she cool it off with you. (4) The manager might be telling her she has to share you with the new girls. In our shop we just got a new girl, so we are needing to make sure she gets some business. Probably a lot more possible reasons.
Bob.[/QUOTE]Good points Bob.
I see 2 MT's on a very regular weekly basis and neither has ever pushed me off onto another MT. I usually text them for an appt, but even when I just show up and other girls are not busy, they will both ask me to wait if they are busy. If a manager ever tried to have me go to another girl I would flat out refuse and I would start to see them outside the spa which I have done several times with both of them. If the manager wants my repeat business then I will be the one to decide who I see. If one MT doesn't want to see me that's fine, there are plenty out there screaming for business so just move on.
AJ.
[QUOTE=DonTheMon;3740422]Gunnison spa shut down Friday night by Chicago officials. Said to be prostitution and cops loaded up on a ton of evidence Friday night. Said to include names of some of the regular customers. Hope any of you mongers never left any evidence at this place. The place seemed to be getting better. This was a surprise. But cops love to surprise. Guess there were no customers there at the time. Well. Time to move on.[/QUOTE]So when the cops read the forum here they weren't fooled by $$ instead of $200? They knew what "on the flip" and CBJ meant? Wow, that is a surprise. Can't imagine how the place got busted.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3757335]Good points Bob.
I see 2 MT's on a very regular weekly basis and neither has ever pushed me off onto another MT. I usually text them for an appt, but even when I just show up and other girls are not busy, they will both ask me to wait if they are busy. If a manager ever tried to have me go to another girl I would flat out refuse and I would start to see them outside the spa which I have done several times with both of them. If the manager wants my repeat business then I will be the one to decide who I see. If one MT doesn't want to see me that's fine, there are plenty out there screaming for business so just move on.
AJ.[/QUOTE]Was it an out call? Can you elaborate a bit on the outside of the spa idea?
You raise another point. The customer gets to decide who the MT will be. Not me, not Mei. In our (legit) shop Mei tries to make sure all the girls (we have 3) have a decent chance to make money.
We have three types of customers: (1) Folks (men and women) who have a specific preferred MT. We honor their requests to stick with their favorite, even if it means they have to wait. That's why we say it's better to text ahead.
(2) Folks who are happy to try (sometimes want to try) different girls. In these cases, Mei will suggest the MT. (3) New customers. In those cases Mei decides. The goal is to have the day end up with everybody getting roughly the same number of customers. Tomorrow, Mei and I take off. So the two girls working have to self-manage. Everybody knows the rules. So if one girl has already had a couple customers, she knows to make sure the other girl gets the next customer. So it's possible this is what was happening to Peter. A long-time employee will tend to have a lot more regulars vs a new girl.
Bob.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3757335]Good points Bob.
I see 2 MT's on a very regular weekly basis and neither has ever pushed me off onto another MT. I usually text them for an appt, but even when I just show up and other girls are not busy, they will both ask me to wait if they are busy. If a manager ever tried to have me go to another girl I would flat out refuse and I would start to see them outside the spa which I have done several times with both of them. If the manager wants my repeat business then I will be the one to decide who I see. If one MT doesn't want to see me that's fine, there are plenty out there screaming for business so just move on.
AJ.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Any information on the below ad? Phone search and image search looks legit.
But it would be helpful if any of you have tried her. She looks irresistible.
[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/hot-fun-relaxation/91801232[/URL]
I mentioned we got a couple new therapists at our legit shop. So I had quite an interesting experience the other day. The newest girl ("Lucy") has expertise in Thai (stretching) massage along with our Chinese standard modalities of acupressure. (aka Shiatsu) and deep tissue. Mei wanted Lucy to teach the other girl Thai massage. And they used me as the test dummy. So I basically got a one hour six hand Thai massage. It really was a hoot with Lucy demonstrating and the others practicing. Lots of joking and chatter. All innocent, of course. But very relaxing.
Bob.
I can't speak for Joe's logistics, but I can say when Mei was working at other SPAs she'd get a day off each week. We would go to a motel. Sometimes a three hour place, but more often a regular place. Between jobs, Mei stayed in a Chinese hotel (hostel) in Chinatown. So I'd go there every day. One time I bought a tent and we went to a state park near Rockford! We still have that tent. But now we also have our own store and an apartment.
There's a separate thread covering Notels. But I used to like the New Relax Inn on Harlem near Toyota Park. Clean, with a fridge and microwave. They take cash and don't look closely at the registration card. For regular low priced motels, I liked the Super 8. Check in at 2 PM check out at 11 AM. They take cash, but they also make a copy of your driver's license.
Bob.
[QUOTE=Walker333;3757509]Was it an out call? Can you elaborate a bit on the outside of the spa idea?[/QUOTE]
Either they want my money or they don't. I was going to one lady once a week until in the middle of the massage a new customer came in and she told me to wait since this was new money. I got up and left and stopped going.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3757335]Good points Bob.
I see 2 MT's on a very regular weekly basis and neither has ever pushed me off onto another MT. I usually text them for an appt, but even when I just show up and other girls are not busy, they will both ask me to wait if they are busy. If a manager ever tried to have me go to another girl I would flat out refuse and I would start to see them outside the spa which I have done several times with both of them. If the manager wants my repeat business then I will be the one to decide who I see. If one MT doesn't want to see me that's fine, there are plenty out there screaming for business so just move on.
AJ.[/QUOTE]
New poster here with a couple reports:
Sister Lav: Been 5-6 times with Candy and Tina (I think). Similar experience with both, although Candy has a more open menu. Massage was passable every time with a good amount of teasing before the flip. Standard finish every time, although more was on the table with Candy.
Why Spa: Rooms were not really rooms, separated thinly. MT was really hesitant with everything even though I gave all signs I was there for fun. Ended with a very quick standard finish. I will not return.
America Online Spa: I've been here twice and never got the name of the MT. My first visit I had an MT gigantic boobs and was fairly attractive but her massage and overall skills were lacking. Standard finish. The second visit was with a 2/10 with an open menu. I wasn't really into it so just went with a standard finish. She was trying to haggle quite a bit for more money, but I ended up at. The second visit left a bad taste in my mouth and I'll likely not go back.
Can anyone recommend a place where they really enjoy the TS in the city? I'm fairly new to this and have not had a good experience with this.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3757689]Either they want my money or they don't. I was going to one lady once a week until in the middle of the massage a new customer came in and she told me to wait since this was new money. I got up and left and stopped going.[/QUOTE]Some of them just get spoiled (by us, receiving good reviews, higher tips etc and behave as if we're not clients, but providers, they can pick and choose. Yes they can to some extent, but only to some.
Has anyone had success at Jennifer's massage on Archer getting a 4 hand for 100?
[QUOTE=Walker333;3757509]Was it an out call? Can you elaborate a bit on the outside of the spa idea?[/QUOTE]Two times I picked one of them up and we went to a hotel for the night. The other one I picked up after work, we went out to dinner and then after the manager had left we back to the spa for a few hours until the cops walked in and told us to leave. They had been doing door checks in the strip mall and we forgot to lock the back door LOL. That was scary for a few minutes.
AJ.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3758553]Two times I picked one of them up and we went to a hotel for the night. The other one I picked up after work, we went out to dinner and then after the manager had left we back to the spa for a few hours until the cops walked in and told us to leave. They had been doing door checks in the strip mall and we forgot to lock the back door LOL. That was scary for a few minutes.
AJ.[/QUOTE]The second story worth of publishing as a short horror story. Almost as a tale from the crypt. I can't imagine your reaction when LEOs walked in. I view it is more disastrous than to be caught by a husband. Well. Maybe an armed husband is still worth.
Rang the bell and was greeted by an older Korean. $80 door fee includes TS and sauna. The TS was nice, lots of soap and thorough. Room was very clean. After TS, 5 minutes in sauna then off to the room. Once again, very clean, and not the typical Asian music playing on a loop; they had Elvis playing LOL. Older masseuse, but she was very friendly and spoke English well. No teasing, and on the flip, I was enjoying the massage so much I didn't hint at wanting extras. Maybe I'm getting old.
She said the spa has been open since January. I'm a Southside, but happened to be up at Rosemont today. I don't think I will drive back up there to try for extras.
Peace.
Is there a monger rate special. I actually need a real massage now. I hurt my shoulder I fell off a ladder a few months ago and I'm still feeling it on my back too. My diabetic nerve pain on my feet aint helping either. Can you help. PM is ok.
[QUOTE=Bob521;3757568]I mentioned we got a couple new therapists at our legit shop. So I had quite an interesting experience the other day. The newest girl ("Lucy") has expertise in Thai (stretching) massage along with our Chinese standard modalities of acupressure. (aka Shiatsu) and deep tissue. Mei wanted Lucy to teach the other girl Thai massage. And they used me as the test dummy. So I basically got a one hour six hand Thai massage. It really was a hoot with Lucy demonstrating and the others practicing. Lots of joking and chatter. All innocent, of course. But very relaxing.
Bob.[/QUOTE]
Been wanting to try a new place. Also are there any Thai places that have extras?
[QUOTE=HobbyLover;3757317]I noticed it was gone when I went by there a couple of days ago. Was not a regular there but did go I think twice a while ago. IIRC they didn't have a table shower and I like those so I hadn't been there in a long time.
Wonder how many gallons of cum were spurted in that place.
Oh well I'm sure another will pop up soon.[/QUOTE]But, I tried to go to Gunnison for the first time on Friday, during crappy rush hour traffic. Shut down, but big nasty stickers over the door! I was bummed. Then I randomly drove around Chicago, not having a plan, and eventually went to Tao on Chicago (did a review, it was so-so).
Quick search I found one of her images matching out to 6 different phone numbers from Long Beach.
She may be legit but unless they truly just have 1 local number my spidey senses go into effect.
My. 02.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=DarkStallion;3757561]Hi,
Any information on the below ad? Phone search and image search looks legit.
But it would be helpful if any of you have tried her. She looks irresistible.
[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/hot-fun-relaxation/91801232[/URL][/QUOTE]
Checked this place out for the first time the other day. I was happy, and will go back.
$65 at the door. I wasn't offered a TS, but I think its available for $10. The spa seemed very clean, and the MT (who's name I forgot to ask) was very nice (mid to late 20's, cute). The massage itself was excellent. She worked every knot in my back and made me feel great.
On the flip she got right to work. Various options available, I went with standard (minus the top). Expect to pay a little bit more at this place. The end wasn't anything to write home about, but it got the job done.