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[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5254787]This is why we can't have nice things always here in LA. While it is all her fault for not to collecting the necessary fee upfront also falls on you for deceiving her trust you would pay. Kind of crappy and I'm sure the next client got a girl in a very shitty mood. Again her fault but come on. You really going short a girl for a service? It's like the guy who doesn't tip on a 200 meal. I don't support up charge but that is not the way to do it.[/QUOTE]Better get a new identity. This one is toast.
[QUOTE=IAmGib1;5254944]You have been around long enough to know the game. You want to play, you got to pay!
Rather than rationalize your petty decision not to act correctly, then just don't participate in the "criminal enterprise" that you have been an avid supporter of for more than a year. If you can't afford the hobby get the f* out. It's not for everyone. Want to know why you newbies get asked for references and ID and work info, it's because "Rats" exist.[/QUOTE]Wow really hope this guy gets banned shouldn't be hard if they have his full name since getting vetted again with a new number will be hard assuming he tries to stay in the game after his current number is blacklisted all for a benji yikes.
That's a shitty move you pulled man.
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5254567]I saw Angel today when she "opened" at noon today. Very cute young girl, smiley and simple. She seems sweet and doesn't give great service, which I prefer in a young girl over core hardened MILFwhore.
In the heat of the moment, I did the bbfscip and she's an upcharge girl. Didn't have an extra hundy so said I'd pay her later. I cannot in good conscience pay an extra hundy for that.
When I left the booker was texting me "hey why did you do that?" I guess I broke the rules of a criminal enterprise, but I feel $280 isn't exactly a poke in the eye for a half hour of time. Maybe I'm 86 ed with that booker, but I'm not much of a Fugazi Repeater.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5254567]..., but I feel $280 isn't exactly a poke in the eye for a half hour of time. Maybe I'm 86 ed with that booker, but.[/QUOTE]"You fixed my pipes for the agreed upon $380 but I feel $280 is good enough." Is that what you tell your plumber?
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5254567]I saw Angel today when she "opened" at noon today. Very cute young girl, smiley and simple. She seems sweet and doesn't give great service, which I prefer in a young girl over core hardened MILFwhore.
In the heat of the moment, I did the bbfscip and she's an upcharge girl. Didn't have an extra hundy so said I'd pay her later. I cannot in good conscience pay an extra hundy for that.
When I left the booker was texting me "hey why did you do that?" I guess I broke the rules of a criminal enterprise, but I feel $280 isn't exactly a poke in the eye for a half hour of time. Maybe I'm 86 ed with that booker, but I'm not much of a Fugazi Repeater.[/QUOTE]I also don't like upcharge, but c'Mon. I don't know why it continues to bear repeating, but these girls are people, first and foremost. Even beyond having basic human decency, this was incredibly foolish. And then you had the audacity to brag about it here. Very few, if any, of us support this kind of thing, and it can potentially affect what little trust there is between the mongers, the girls, and the bookers.
Anyway, it's pretty clear how the majority feels about this, so I'll also take this opportunity to celebrate who I consider the holy trinity of no upcharge with fantastic and consistent service currently working: Hana, Viki, Ara. After, being largely disappointed with the quality of the "new" talent here overall, and reading here that my concerns are shared by many of you, I came to have a new appreciation for what we already have. I saw all three recently after going a few weeks of trying new girls, and it further cemented the idea that I should just stick to what I know, and if it weren't for that pesky desire for novelty, I would (though to be fair, if I didn't have that drive, then I wouldn't monger at all, since I already have both a girlfriend and a consistent FWB). We can go back and forth about their age and attractiveness, and personally, while I am obviously attracted to all three, none of them I consider especially gorgeous. However, in my opinion, they are the peak of impeccable service. Each different, but no matter who I pick, I am confident that I will always feel that my money is well spent.
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5254567]I saw Angel today when she "opened" at noon today. Very cute young girl, smiley and simple. She seems sweet and doesn't give great service, which I prefer in a young girl over core hardened MILFwhore.
In the heat of the moment, I did the bbfscip and she's an upcharge girl. Didn't have an extra hundy so said I'd pay her later. I cannot in good conscience pay an extra hundy for that.
When I left the booker was texting me "hey why did you do that?" I guess I broke the rules of a criminal enterprise, but I feel $280 isn't exactly a poke in the eye for a half hour of time. Maybe I'm 86 ed with that booker, but I'm not much of a Fugazi Repeater.[/QUOTE]Not sure how anyone reading this can benefit. The act is one thing. Posting about it is another. That you referenced having a "good conscience" is ironic af.
M. Chanel.
Sunny. Joy, Niya, Carissa, Lyn.
Newtopasian. LA Sera, Min.
Sexy Angels. Sophia, Erika. Emma, Jool Gina.
SFK. Alyssa Viki.
PKL. Ara.
Sesang. Hana.
Angelsinwla. Hana.
KGLA. Piper.
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[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5254787]This is why we can't have nice things always here in LA. While it is all her fault for not to collecting the necessary fee upfront also falls on you for deceiving her trust you would pay. Kind of crappy and I'm sure the next client got a girl in a very shitty mood. Again her fault but come on. You really going short a girl for a service? It's like the guy who doesn't tip on a 200 meal. I don't support up charge but that is not the way to do it.[/QUOTE]I truly agree! The upsell isn't for everyone! These guys trying to low ball these girls at those rate! Times are changing! If you want to pay that much go up north but here in Los Angeles I don't think you'll ever find a girl who will do that much now!
Me personally I'll pay the upsell! Yea I don't like it but if I want BB then I have to go that extra mile.
Plus you'll built credit with the booker and will notify you when fresh girls come in LOL! That's just me.
[QUOTE=Francescoo;5255559]I truly agree! The upsell isn't for everyone! These guys trying to low ball these girls at those rate! Times are changing! If you want to pay that much go up north but here in Los Angeles I don't think you'll ever find a girl who will do that much now!
Me personally I'll pay the upsell! Yea I don't like it but if I want BB then I have to go that extra mile.
Plus you'll built credit with the booker and will notify you when fresh girls come in LOL! That's just me.[/QUOTE]I'm new to the game and would like to avoid this situation. How do you know if the girl is up charge or not? I usually pay the girls upfront but try not to bring any extra cash with me. I know most girls state that they are up charge on the sites but some sites don't have any prices listed. Is it safe to assume if not rates are listed that it is not an up charge org?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5254567]I saw Angel today when she "opened" at noon today. Very cute young girl, smiley and simple. She seems sweet and doesn't give great service, which I prefer in a young girl over core hardened MILFwhore.
In the heat of the moment, I did the bbfscip and she's an upcharge girl. Didn't have an extra hundy so said I'd pay her later. I cannot in good conscience pay an extra hundy for that.
When I left the booker was texting me "hey why did you do that?" I guess I broke the rules of a criminal enterprise, but I feel $280 isn't exactly a poke in the eye for a half hour of time. Maybe I'm 86 ed with that booker, but I'm not much of a Fugazi Repeater.[/QUOTE]Note to mongers. Don't be this guy.
Who is Angel booker?
[QUOTE=AndyX24;5255590]I'm new to the game and would like to avoid this situation. How do you know if the girl is up charge or not? I usually pay the girls upfront but try not to bring any extra cash with me. I know most girls state that they are up charge on the sites but some sites don't have any prices listed. Is it safe to assume if not rates are listed that it is not an up charge org?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Ask your booker in advance, they will tell you.
[QUOTE=AlexisDavis;5255891]Ask your booker in advance, they will tell you.[/QUOTE]Sounds good. Wasn't sure if that was allowed talking rates through text but good to know.
Also want to thank you for all your reviews. I think we have similar taste and I look through your reviews for my next adventures. Have you tried Stella by any chance?
[QUOTE=Frala;5255374]Anyway, it's pretty clear how the majority feels about this, so I'll also take this opportunity to celebrate who I consider the holy trinity of no upcharge with fantastic and consistent service currently working: Hana, Viki, Ara. After, being largely disappointed with the quality of the "new" talent here overall, and reading here that my concerns are shared by many of you, I came to have a new appreciation for what we already have. I saw all three recently after going a few weeks of trying new girls, and it further cemented the idea that I should just stick to what I know, and if it weren't for that pesky desire for novelty, I would (though to be fair, if I didn't have that drive, then I wouldn't monger at all, since I already have both a girlfriend and a consistent FWB). We can go back and forth about their age and attractiveness, and personally, while I am obviously attracted to all three, none of them I consider especially gorgeous. However, in my opinion, they are the peak of impeccable service. Each different, but no matter who I pick, I am confident that I will always feel that my money is well spent.[/QUOTE]Well said! All three are stellar and deserve your dollars if you crave attractive looking Kgirls for bbfscip with no upsell.
Personally speaking, I would also add Mistress X and Nana to this group. They are a bit cheaper in price but provide equally great service. You might not care for them if you're looking for younger looking women, however.
[QUOTE=AndyX24;5255590]I'm new to the game and would like to avoid this situation. How do you know if the girl is up charge or not? I usually pay the girls upfront but try not to bring any extra cash with me. I know most girls state that they are up charge on the sites but some sites don't have any prices listed. Is it safe to assume if not rates are listed that it is not an up charge org?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Most of the time the booker will let you know! And what their prices are! Usually the gal will count the money first which is routine! Now that guys are cheap af! But you pay for the service you want! If the girl offers bb then of course it will be upsell! And MSOG! Is another charge so make sure to bring the sufficient amount to cover those costs. That way you don't get black listed!
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[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5254567]I saw Angel today when she "opened" at noon today. Very cute young girl, smiley and simple. She seems sweet and doesn't give great service, which I prefer in a young girl over core hardened MILFwhore.
In the heat of the moment, I did the bbfscip and she's an upcharge girl. Didn't have an extra hundy so said I'd pay her later. I cannot in good conscience pay an extra hundy for that.
When I left the booker was texting me "hey why did you do that?" I guess I broke the rules of a criminal enterprise, but I feel $280 isn't exactly a poke in the eye for a half hour of time. Maybe I'm 86 ed with that booker, but I'm not much of a Fugazi Repeater.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure that booker is associated with another well-known booker, so you are now banned from both orgs.
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Saw Emma this weekend TOFTT.
L6 - Pics are her but glammed up. Super skinny in person like boobs on a stick. Youthful pale skin but has acne scarring around shoulder and entire back. Enhanced boobs, semi hard. Heavy smoker with yellow to dark teeth. She can pass for early 20's but could tell she's late 20's (best), mid 30's (worst). Still on the younger end of most LA kgirls.
A7 - she seems new and starts of cold but wants' up quickly. Mixture of new-ness perhaps and keeping safe due to Covid. Was chill afterwards and went way overtime since she's new and not terribly busy. She did reveal she has had her 2 shots of the vax for those interested.
S6. 5 - no DFK st the door. Asked for donation once in room. No playtime in shower. Wash, dry off then to bed. BBBJ is meh. Very shallow and barely past the tip. What she can get in her small mout she sucks well and has semi decent tongue action. Lubes up for quick P2 P and slides it in bare. CG, ACG, K9, Mish, side spoon to side straddle, K9 w / thumb on asshole. Flat dog back to mish to CIP finishing in a flop-sweat. Vag felt good. Velvety and snug. Con in K9: could feel her bony ass when we were going at it and she was buck back. She seemed to enjoy herself as well but could definitely tell moans and theatrics were exaggerated. She tries I suppose which is commendable. Quick water break and off to round 2. She starts BBBJ again but has a harder time. Lack of overall skill hand / mouth and general attraction to her. Hops on CG to K9. Started to lose it but self started. MISH, restart. Finally finishing in K9. I enjoy DFK but did bot want to partake. DATY between round 1 positions was clean and tasty. She seemed to enjoy but didn't DATY long enough to get into it. Flicking her bean in different position really got her off and sensitive. Those reactions were real.
E - 300 BBFSCIP x2.
Are. No. Too thin for me and not enough overall skill to consider a return.
[QUOTE=Wheels322;5254783]How do I contact them? Is there a phone number? Or do I really need to submit that form on their website? Thanks fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]Open website and check in. Scroll down past Top Girls until you come to Los Angeles Girls. DO NOT click on anything!! If you do you will be redirected and you will not find the information you are looking for. Right above the heading Los Angeles Girls you will find a phone number that is the number for the LA gals. If you are seeking a gal in the OC or San Diego, you will have to go elsewhere. You then have to try TER or HX and do a little bit of searching.
[QUOTE=KGirlAddict;5256248]Many mongers might believe in a No Tip Policy. No Upcharge Policy, whatever you want to call it. Many others call it being a cheap fuc_er, but who are we to judge? All of us think you robbed the girl and it was a fuc_ed up assh_le move. But who gives a shit what we think? Maybe you do because you read the posts. It's not too late for you to tell the booker it was an honest mistake and give her the buck you owe. It'll possibly salvage your reputation with the booker and save you from the black list.[/QUOTE]He sounded like he was bragging like he beat the house. He'll see just how he beat it.
Does anyone know what type does Stella provides? Does she do BBFS and BBBJ?
[QUOTE=Vulcan1009;5254785]So I see everyone is talking about this Kira and I did some digging, on HX there are now two account booking for Kira.
One is K-doll (no up charge BB was told by booker from Kamsamida) and one is Kbunnygirl, so as someone said here one of them does not charge BB and one does. But is she CIP?
Has anyone actually seen this Kira? Very tempting to see her for the double Ds but I only get 1 shot, I want to make sure I don't waste my bi weekly bang on something disappointed, LOL.
Money is hard to make, not a baller ya know.
Thanks in advance for anyone who share detail about her.[/QUOTE]Hey Vulcan. You misquoted me on the upcharge. I was the one who alerted you mongers in LA that yes there is an upcharge for bb with Kira based on my communication with the booker at HX Kdoll.
Kira is still one of my ATF in the Bay. Top notch BBBJ / DT skills, high energy pse. Treat her with respect.
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5254567]I saw Angel today when she "opened" at noon today. Very cute young girl, smiley and simple. She seems sweet and doesn't give great service, which I prefer in a young girl over core hardened MILFwhore.
In the heat of the moment, I did the bbfscip and she's an upcharge girl. Didn't have an extra hundy so said I'd pay her later. I cannot in good conscience pay an extra hundy for that.
When I left the booker was texting me "hey why did you do that?" I guess I broke the rules of a criminal enterprise, but I feel $280 isn't exactly a poke in the eye for a half hour of time. Maybe I'm 86 ed with that booker, but I'm not much of a Fugazi Repeater.[/QUOTE]You may think you're getting away with this shit but karma will catch up with you. K orgs are a small fraternity.
[QUOTE=Toungsten;5256306]He sounded like he was bragging like he beat the house. He'll see just how he beat it.[/QUOTE]Soon, the only option left available to him will be to stay home and beat it.
[QUOTE=ThrallfoYou;5254606]I wanted to ask a general question. As a person who is jumping back to this hobby after many years of hiatus, does tip means better service than normal hourly rate fee? I have never tipped and I wanted to get better bang for my bucks going forward.
Appreciate in advance fellas.[/QUOTE]Not really. KDs give you good service regardless of tip or no tip.
Hi everyone,
Of the Kgirls available, what is everyone's favorite duo for 3 some?
Thank you!
I see a new girl Jia with M today. 3 letter names are not helpful to us on this site. Picture looks great, but it's also not helpful. Was thinking about TOFTT, but then I did a reverse image search and found she was in the bay area. Maybe some of our bay area friends can give us some info?
[QUOTE=KingsFoil;5257214]I see a new girl Jia with M today. 3 letter names are not helpful to us on this site. Picture looks great, but it's also not helpful. Was thinking about TOFTT, but then I did a reverse image search and found she was in the bay area. Maybe some of our bay area friends can give us some info?[/QUOTE]Worked at KL in Emeryville. Still listed on the site. Overall chat about her did not look positive. Check out AMP review forum in SF and a few pages back you'll see a short thread of about 10 comments on her. I think thread was titled 411 Jia KL.
[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5257360]Worked at KL in Emeryville. Still listed on the site. Overall chat about her did not look positive. Check out AMP review forum in SF and a few pages back you'll see a short thread of about 10 comments on her. I think thread was titled 411 Jia KL.[/QUOTE]Their website search sucks. I thought it didn't exist but I found it.
[URL]https://www.a*********.net/index.php?threads/review-kl-jia.63201/[/URL]
You can replace the ** with the actual website for a direct link.
[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5257360] (Jia) Worked at KL in Emeryville. Still listed on the site. Overall chat about her did not look positive. Check out AMP review forum in SF and a few pages back you'll see a short thread of about 10 comments on her. I think thread was titled 411 Jia KL.[/QUOTE]TER I'd: 356443. Non-VIPs can at least get a gist of what some folks thought.
Pics are dated. Definitely MILF, borderlining gilf status from one account. Attitude / Service over looks; works hard to please.
M. Jia.
Sunny. Joy, Niya, Carissa, Lyn.
Newtopasian. LA Sera, Min.
Sexy Angels. Sophia, Erika. Emma.
SFK. Alyssa Viki.
PKL. Ara.
Sesang.
Angelsinwla.
KGLA. Piper, Mimi.
[QUOTE=Toungsten;5257959]M. Jia.
Sunny. Joy, Niya, Carissa, Lyn.
Newtopasian. LA Sera, Min.
Sexy Angels. Sophia, Erika. Emma.
SFK. Alyssa Viki.
PKL. Ara.
Sesang.
Angelsinwla.
KGLA. Piper, Mimi.[/QUOTE]Is Hana just off for the day or is she "on vacation?
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5254567]I saw Angel today when she "opened" at noon today. Very cute young girl, smiley and simple. She seems sweet and doesn't give great service, which I prefer in a young girl over core hardened MILFwhore.
In the heat of the moment, I did the bbfscip and she's an upcharge girl. Didn't have an extra hundy so said I'd pay her later. I cannot in good conscience pay an extra hundy for that.
When I left the booker was texting me "hey why did you do that?" I guess I broke the rules of a criminal enterprise, but I feel $280 isn't exactly a poke in the eye for a half hour of time. Maybe I'm 86 ed with that booker, but I'm not much of a Fugazi Repeater.[/QUOTE]You ever wondered why every girl you see no matter the "agency" is in 1 of 3 buildings? Coincidence?. LOL I hope you didn't give I'd.
[QUOTE=KingsFoil;5257214]I see a new girl Jia with M today. 3 letter names are not helpful to us on this site. Picture looks great, but it's also not helpful. Was thinking about TOFTT, but then I did a reverse image search and found she was in the bay area. Maybe some of our bay area friends can give us some info?[/QUOTE]I was thinking we should start repeating the last letter. Like "Jiaa" so we can search later. Also, I miss Mioo w J.
Finally got in with M last week. Saw Chanel. She's def a more sensual GFE vs PSE experience, and a tad bit older (maybe late 30's, 40 ish), but service and overall body and face are still pretty top notch. IF she was like 10 years younger she would be number 1 in LA, I'd bet.
F: 7. 5, with some age, Probably an 8 - 8. 5 all things considered. She's definitely pretty, less GND more hot.
B: 8. 5 Really good man made Cs that are soft, longish torso and kinda taller (5'6-5'7), small but roundish butt, skinny but not super toned everywhere. A little tall for my tastes but everything else my type.
A: 8 A little cold and business like at first, but warmed up quickly after some chitchat. Then she's 100% service oriented and wants you to be happy. She seems to have less of a script and wanted me to drive.
S: 8. 5 I like a little more sensual, and that she was. DFK the whole session. She also DFK'd my asshole. Pretty standard BJ with some very mild attempts at DT, good in all positions, can CG ride pretty well (7. 5/10). I think I surprised her a bit here and she got off pretty hard. Auditory sounds are good.
E: Enough to have a simple conversation.
Repeat: Yeah, definitely. I'd say a slightly slower paced, but hotter and better body Allie experience. Similar ages I reckon.
Damage: $$.
I was just wondering if anyone here has seen min from newtop Asian its been a while since I've visited this booker because ruby left but I was just wondering if anyone can give me some details. I'm a breast lover and the description says she has 34 d but the photos provided don't look near that description. Looking to book this one today.