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I totally agree with as I am also a southern gentleman raised to respect and honor. But in this day and age there is more on the "give me wagon" than on the respect and honor wagon. Could I see myself asking an S. P. To go out for lunch? Sure BUT there is always buts and always watching my back because I have been let's say taken advantage of because of my niceness and it gets old real quick. Just my 2. Cents thanks for all the info and respect from the members of this board. Have a great day.

[QUOTE=Camera3;2262126]First, I am not A2, just C3 will do, although, I seem to also wear the Welcome Wagon title and am OK with that. I really do want our little neighborhood to grow with guys that give reliable intel and ladies that give spectacular companionship.

So, yes, the SP in question and I have seen each other a few times as dates and in our talks found somewhere gentleman common ground. I would say we trust each other implicitly, maybe even with our lives, but certainly our securityking a sp . The lunch was an extension of a previous conversation where we talked about a casual meeting. I called and asked if I may buy her lunch, no other strings attached. No extra fee and if there had been then I would have respectfully withdrawn the offer. It was in no way a date. Yes, as a Southern Gentleman I picked up the tab and, as a shrewd businessman, expensed it. On the business end, she is a top SP. I will see her again and again as my urges change toward her specialty.

Here is the thing, over the years I have helped some with rent, power bills, even paid for advertising and a meal from time to time. I have taken a few SP's shopping and given rides. I have never asked for consideration or discounts based on any of this. I am just an old softy. I would do the same for any friend whether I knew them personally or professionally. I think I see it as just what friends do. I have only been ripped off once by a very talented lady who managed to take all the cash out of my wallet and put the wallet back while giving a stellar BBBJ, something that really required great skill, and I had one bait-and-switch that I didn't pull the plug on because I can be stupid. So, I tend to get along pretty well with all kinds of people. I have had a few see me as a father figure, which I am fine with, although that is not the case at all with this SP.

Being nice is a good way of doing things. Any other ladies up for lunch?

Just one man's opinion.

C3.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jesse54;2263419]Good evening members of the Hobby Herd. I had the privilege of everyone's favorite this afternoon. Yes, most who have been around have had this experience. NCNS! My question is how many chances does one give a model? Does it depend on circumstances or automatic one and done? I have read of a few class acts from the board who have gone above and beyond for the "make up" dream. Just curious as to how others react to the NCNS.[/QUOTE]The ones that have been stood up and the ones will be in the future, it's only a matter of time so let it go.

If I'm still interested, I'll give the gal a second chance. One of my long time ATFs stood me up the first time but more than made up for it. Others burned their bridges on the first try because I wasn't really into them.

So, you're paying chicks power bills, rent, meals, etc. And not getting laid from it? Wow. Nothing wrong with bartering those services for sex. I don't really see why you would pay twice for the same service. But, I guess when girls from a sugar daddy site I used to use to get laid would tell me to fuck off because I expected sex if we met were telling the truth when they said that lots of guys give them money/pay their bills and all they have to do is go out and eat with them. Just don't understand that.

[QUOTE=Camera3;2262126]First, I am not A2, just C3 will do, although, I seem to also wear the Welcome Wagon title and am OK with that. I really do want our little neighborhood to grow with guys that give reliable intel and ladies that give spectacular companionship.

So, yes, the SP in question and I have seen each other a few times as dates and in our talks found some common ground. I would say we trust each other implicitly, maybe even with our lives, but certainly our security. The lunch was an extension of a previous conversation where we talked about a casual meeting. I called and asked if I may buy her lunch, no other strings attached. No extra fee and if there had been then I would have respectfully withdrawn the offer. It was in no way a date. Yes, as a Southern Gentleman I picked up the tab and, as a shrewd businessman, expensed it. On the business end, she is a top SP. I will see her again and again as my urges change toward her specialty.

Here is the thing, over the years I have helped some with rent, power bills, even paid for advertising and a meal from time to time. I have taken a few SP's shopping and given rides. I have never asked for consideration or discounts based on any of this. I am just an old softy. I would do the same for any friend whether I knew them personally or professionally. I think I see it as just what friends do. I have only been ripped off once by a very talented lady who managed to take all the cash out of my wallet and put the wallet back while giving a stellar BBBJ, something that really required great skill, and I had one bait-and-switch that I didn't pull the plug on because I can be stupid. So, I tend to get along pretty well with all kinds of people. I have had a few see me as a father figure, which I am fine with, although that is not the case at all with this SP.

Being nice is a good way of doing things. Any other ladies up for lunch?

Just one man's opinion.

C3.[/QUOTE]

RJ1,

I don't go around freely paying power bills of every friend I have, but when a friend is in a jam, helping out is what a friend should do. Hey, I have helped friends I didn't have sex with, too. And there are times when I don't help because I really don't want to get involved in the drama of enabling.

My point in the post was just to share a philosophy. That philosophy includes respect. The post was in response to some newbee acting like the cock of the walk. Hey, when I was lot younger I knew everything, too. Now that I am older it is amazing how much I still have to learn.

I was with a SP yesterday and we had a great conversation after I asked her what she enjoyed. It was very enlightening. Without going into details, which I believe would betray the trust of a personal conversation, her answer wasn't at all what I expected and had nothing to do with what we were there to do.

I do believe that one of the biggest issues in our world today, at least for us guys, is best stated in the wise words of one of our members, "The problem is, 50% of the population controls 100% of the pussy. " So, being nice to a lady is a good thing. And, yes, I have been known to barter for more or otherwise forbidden services. And, no, I don't ever ask for a discount from a lady.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.

[QUOTE=RickyJames1;2264292]So, you're paying chicks power bills, rent, meals, etc. And not getting laid from it? Wow. Nothing wrong with bartering those services for sex. I don't really see why you would pay twice for the same service. But, I guess when girls from a sugar daddy site I used to use to get laid would tell me to fuck off because I expected sex if we met were telling the truth when they said that lots of guys give them money/pay their bills and all they have to do is go out and eat with them. Just don't understand that.[/QUOTE]

Don't do it I played it once and she was a lier never told the truth never ever the lies she told my god stuff that did not matter after it was over I found out the truth she was living with a real ass hole ugly older guy who was like her father well you get it right!! It never mattered how much money I gave her it was never enough always wanted more that pussy was so good I would have given her anything if she simply told the truth hot and young in that few months I dropped 5 figures on her and maybe got a text back when she wanted money some of these girls are not worth it no matter how good she makes you feel if she played the same shit with some one not as nice as me I'm sure she would have been hurt or worse in the end I think daddy aka pimp beat her ass for the shit she pulled.

John from the lake or Captain stupid hunting tail on this cold morning a nice tan Latina on a trip to Greece ' At least that's my final destination just saying.

[QUOTE=Camera3;2264846]RJ1,

I don't go around freely paying power bills of every friend I have, but when a friend is in a jam, helping out is what a friend should do. Hey, I have helped friends I didn't have sex with, too. And there are times when I don't help because I really don't want to get involved in the drama of enabling.

My point in the post was just to share a philosophy. That philosophy includes respect. The post was in response to some newbee acting like the cock of the walk. Hey, when I was lot younger I knew everything, too. Now that I am older it is amazing how much I still have to learn.

I was with a SP yesterday and we had a great conversation after I asked her what she enjoyed. It was very enlightening. Without going into details, which I believe would betray the trust of a personal conversation, her answer wasn't at all what I expected and had nothing to do with what we were there to do.

I do believe that one of the biggest issues in our world today, at least for us guys, is best stated in the wise words of one of our members, "The problem is, 50% of the population controls 100% of the pussy. " So, being nice to a lady is a good thing. And, yes, I have been known to barter for more or otherwise forbidden services. And, no, I don't ever ask for a discount from a lady.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.[/QUOTE]C3, I don't disagree with your preferred method of interacting with these SP's but your last sentence has me upset. "I don't ever ask for a discount from a lady" is just wrong. If you have an established relationship as a QUALITY customer and intend to see the SP on an often basis, you MUST ask for a "regulars rate". Thats the game, its expected. Unless of course you have unlimited funds or feel the existing rate is already reasonable.

So, I go to see jade after all the talk in here about her, she does give a good effort but look wise I wouldn't see.

Her again for free. Sorry my type isn't a skinny hairy girl.

With nasty teeth and doesn't appear clean. Terrible hygiene.

You guys who like classy clean good looking women have been warned, don't.

Waste your time or money if you're looking for someone hot.

Will not repeat even for free. Some may like her, but I've turned down better.

Pussy for free.

[QUOTE=Nickoglock;2265145]So, I go to see jade after all the talk in here about her, she does give a good effort but look wise I wouldn't see.

Her again for free. Sorry my type isn't a skinny hairy girl.

With nasty teeth and doesn't appear clean. Terrible hygiene.

You guys who like classy clean good looking women have been warned, don't.

Waste your time or money if you're looking for someone hot.

Will not repeat even for free. Some may like her, but I've turned down better.

Pussy for free.[/QUOTE]Several post with that name. It would help if you included link. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Quilino;2265300]Several post with that name. It would help if you included link. Thanks.[/QUOTE], Goldenrod.

I do not disagree with your premise, at all. If I had a regular and saw her lots I would certainly talk about "regular rates" and expect it. I am just so ADHD that I don't really have a regular. I change phases as often as a juke box changes records. Fat chicks, tall chicks, spinners, teenagers, MILF's, Goths, you name it, I change to it. Then at the last minute change again. Now, it is different when I go through a SW phase. The whole part of the sport of seeing a SW is seeing how much you can get for how little. And she is trying to give as little as she can for as much as she can get honestly or dishonestly. I go through that phase from time to time, too. Now, I do have an upper limit. I just won't donate more than a certain amount no matter how good she is. I'll sit at home watching [URL]hystericalliterature.com[/URL] with Rosie before I go past my limit. So, to clarify, I am not going to beat a girl down who has posted or quoted a particular donation. But I am not going to overpay, either. When I do date a UTR that has not stated a donation amount I think I am pretty generous. I just don't go over my upper limit.

Does that make more sense?

C3.

[QUOTE=AncientOne;2264977]C3, I don't disagree with your preferred method of interacting with these SP's but your last sentence has me upset. "I don't ever ask for a discount from a lady" is just wrong. If you have an established relationship as a QUALITY customer and intend to see the SP on an often basis, you MUST ask for a "regulars rate". Thats the game, its expected. Unless of course you have unlimited funds or feel the existing rate is already reasonable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Camera3;2265349]I change phases as often as a juke box changes records.
C3.[/QUOTE]A smart SP will transition you to a comfortable rate once she learns your habits. I stopped seeing certain providers when they failed to acknowledge / reward my loyalty. I will continue to pay the same rate I started with on the first time and expect extras as I become regular. This could be extra time off the clock, more menue options to keep my interest and most of all better service. If I do not get extras I tend to get disinterested and seek better options at that price point. I will also make an occasional visit to stay in touch and keep the roaster active for plan be needs.

In summery it is service over price for me, and if I don't get favorable treatment I migrate to greener pasture.

[QUOTE=Camera3;2265349]I do not disagree with your premise, at all. If I had a regular and saw her lots I would certainly talk about "regular rates" and expect it. I am just so ADHD that I don't really have a regular. I change phases as often as a juke box changes records. Fat chicks, tall chicks, spinners, teenagers, MILF's, Goths, you name it, I change to it. Then at the last minute change again. Now, it is different when I go through a SW phase. The whole part of the sport of seeing a SW is seeing how much you can get for how little. And she is trying to give as little as she can for as much as she can get honestly or dishonestly. I go through that phase from time to time, too. Now, I do have an upper limit. I just won't donate more than a certain amount no matter how good she is. I'll sit at home watching [URL]hystericalliterature.com[/URL] with Rosie before I go past my limit. So, to clarify, I am not going to beat a girl down who has posted or quoted a particular donation. But I am not going to overpay, either. When I do date a UTR that has not stated a donation amount I think I am pretty generous. I just don't go over my upper limit.

Does that make more sense?

C3.[/QUOTE]I see absolutely nothing wrong with rewarding your regular friends. I have friends that I see for discounted rates normally it's $50 off the regular, but I have VERY SPECIAL friends that get even deeper discounts. I have one friend that I see for that deeper discount (Hell I would see him for free with NO strings attached because I really enjoy his company and he's so sexy! You know who you are) he left me more than normal and I actually called him to let him know that he left me too much. So ladies if you want to keep your friends cumming make them happy not only in their dreams but in their pockets as well. I've even considered offering every 4th visit is free up to 1 hour. Any feed back on that would be very much appreciated.

Love to ALL Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[QUOTE=Mystical0945;2266277]I see absolutely nothing wrong with rewarding your regular friends.
Any feed back on that would be very much appreciated.
Love to ALL Ashley.
Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.[/QUOTE]Very thoughtful post Ashley, judging by your comments you absolutely get it. I think one of the best gift back would be flexibility in scheduling and extra care and attention. Normally after you get through the know each other phase the tension is gone but also the spark. I believe verbalizing appreciation can be highly received. As a guy you want to know that you are wanted byond the the transaction and even the act. That is when both have a freind with benefits.

[QUOTE=FloridaSun;2266786]Very thoughtful post Ashley, judging by your comments you absolutely get it. I think one of the best gift back would be flexibility in scheduling and extra care and attention. Normally after you get through the know each other phase the tension is gone but also the spark. I believe verbalizing appreciation can be highly received. As a guy you want to know that you are wanted byond the the transaction and even the act. That is when both have a freind with benefits.[/QUOTE](Quote) "I totally agree with as I am also a southern gentleman raised to respect and honor. But in this day and age there is more on the "give me wagon" than on the respect and honor wagon. Could I see myself asking an S. P. To go out for lunch? Sure BUT there is always buts and always watching my back because I have been let's say taken advantage of because of my niceness and it gets old real quick. Just my 2. Cents thanks for all the info and respect from the members of this board. Have a great day. ".

I believe in always a second chance but when it becomes the normal behavior not only should you move on but the "gifts" go with it. I like being friends and helping out once and a while. There has to be no drama. I did not make time for dreaming for that. Then its time for a reschedule or at least a conversation.

Hope all a great one!

Well I do have an ATF who I have called and she drove to meet me at the no tell several times. She has offered greatly reduced donations on several occasions which I have never taken her up on. Only a couple of times she wasn't available so she sent me to someone else. I really have a good time with her but feel if I took her offer up that would totally change things between us. She also looks very good in "BLUE". Just my take on this.