Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Bronco62;6390068][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5d830e2-8c36-42e6-be2d-8756effb3d98[/URL]

Been chatting with this one and she seems legit, been on the site for awhile. Anyone have any experience with her?[/QUOTE]Almost met up but then she blocked me after asking for a video chat or a pic of her holding a piece of paper with my name written on it. As much as I wanted to meet up, I wanted a few more verification prior since she really seems TGTBT but I guess that set her off. Most girls would be totally okay with a simple video chat for verification, right?

[QUOTE=KnoxNenters;6425600]UPDATE: I've had 230 credits refunded since I posted this. For those of you convinced WYP is a waste of time, I can't necessarily disagree, but I have had several successes there in the past two months. All of them are essentially looking for arrangements, and many will do PPMs. It's not that different from Seeking. If your main objection is spending money on credits only to have them wasted by scammers, be encouraged that the process I outlined for getting them refunded works. And it's really easy to spot the scammers. Same bullshit. Empty profiles, but the obvious one is their income. They like to claim they make $300,000 to $1 m. Oh, wow. Please enlighten me as to how that crypto can make me rich, pig butcher!

It would be nice to hear about other platforms y'all are having success with. I know SA / Seeking is the first mover, and that Secret Benefits is a complete scam ripoff (you can only buy credits with bitcoin? and the staff actively create fake profiles?) Where else are we finding the non-pros around here?[/QUOTE]Seeking is just plain the best. It's even great for travel as there are always girls in any area on that site. Even though people have said otherwise, WhatsYourPrice has been nothing but scams for me and Secret Benefits is just awful. There are SOME real women on Secret Benefits, but overall it's not nearly worth it as the fake profiles / fake message rate must be greater than 95%. Maybe even 99%.

[QUOTE=DelToro;6421214]And the problem is that many of the guys making crazy promises are new. Eager to get laid, but quickly realize that what they offered is not sustainable, but by then it is too late.

Too bad they do not get to do some research before jumping in. It is a good advice for whenever you join a new group or activity, observe before participating, but well[/QUOTE]Funny you say this- so I found my absolute Unicorn Arrangement and the only reason I found it was because the last guy who was in it couldn't afford it. The girl gets back in Seeking and in ONE DAY she and I are texting. But the only reason she was available is because some guy over promised.

[QUOTE=MaCross19;6427011]Funny you say this- so I found my absolute Unicorn Arrangement and the only reason I found it was because the last guy who was in it couldn't afford it. The girl gets back in Seeking and in ONE DAY she and I are texting. But the only reason she was available is because some guy over promised.[/QUOTE]You really think most guys are there looking for long term arrangements? I am willing to bet most aren't. Maybe that's what he told her. It's all sex work in the end, as long as you're paying. But good for you if you feel like you're getting your $ worth.

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6427712]You really think most guys are there looking for long term arrangements? I am willing to bet most aren't. Maybe that's what he told her. It's all sex work in the end, as long as you're paying. But good for you if you feel like you're getting your $ worth.[/QUOTE]There are very few guys out there who are willing to spend a huge amount of allowance money on these girls. Yeah they exist, but they're rare and they don't last long. My old nanny became a sugar baby and got this frumpy, young tech guy. He took her all over on trips to Mexico, London, and Australia. We have a good relationship so I eventually had the nerve to offer her $500 for a half hour, but she laughed and politely declined -- she starts at $1,300.

But eventually even her guy dropped her for something new. There's no shortage of these girls out there and while she's plenty hot, just from being around, I can tell you that the story of guys who pay a girl thousands per month are a gazillion times more rare than the story of the guy who promised the girl a ton of money, but then ended up fucking her for four hours and then throwing her $50 saying that's all he has.

[QUOTE=DelToro;6419866]She has been on and off SA for years.

Her original SA username was also sunshineshan.

I fucked the hell out of her when she first join SA, she was in great shape, could host, had a great attitude and a reasonable arrangement, but then she got into cuddling and met a few guys that shower her with money so she became too demanding, apparently a guy made her an offer she could not resist and demanded monogamy and she cut me off.

When later she came back to SA, I contacted her and she said I did not offer enough. She demanded a bit of a crazy monthly arrangement.

It was great while it lasted[/QUOTE]I actually saw her 3 times with the cuddle site hoping for extras and felt like they could be there but nothing. I finally gave up. I guess I didn't have enough game. Glad you had fun with her my friend.

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6427712]You really think most guys are there looking for long term arrangements? I am willing to bet most aren't. Maybe that's what he told her. It's all sex work in the end, as long as you're paying. But good for you if you feel like you're getting your $ worth.[/QUOTE]Oh no, most guys on there are looking to bang hotties. I am probably an exception in getting involved long term. My longest arrangement lasted nearly 3 consecutive years. But this dude got her to move a hour away so she could be close to him only to him to give up the arrangement a month after she moved. Now I have an absolute smoke show that I get to see 2-3 times a week. Been in the game sugar dating for nearly a decade- just goes to show you that you never know what you will find on that site.

[QUOTE=MaCross19;6427011]Funny you say this- so I found my absolute Unicorn Arrangement and the only reason I found it was because the last guy who was in it couldn't afford it. The girl gets back in Seeking and in ONE DAY she and I are texting. But the only reason she was available is because some guy over promised.[/QUOTE]You were lucky she could see through the guys BS. Many just believe whatever was promised should be the standard without understanding the guy could not keep its word because it was not sustainable.

[QUOTE=BuckNaked123;6428024]I actually saw her 3 times with the cuddle site hoping for extras and felt like they could be there but nothing. I finally gave up. I guess I didn't have enough game. Glad you had fun with her my friend.[/QUOTE]It was not your lack of game. Her attitude changed enormously once she met a particular guy with the cuddling.

Don't waste your time with this one.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/kjmyRG1z0XKQBWZ57DLlYvQg[/URL]

Offered an amount for a date, I accepted. She was fine with date but wants to let me know she has to bring her boyfriend. Told her I'll pass.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6430687]Don't waste your time with this one.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/kjmyRG1z0XKQBWZ57DLlYvQg[/URL]

Offered an amount for a date, I accepted. She was fine with date but wants to let me know she has to bring her boyfriend. Told her I'll pass.[/QUOTE]LOL, at least she didn't surprise you and you end up being the 3rd wheel. Thanks for sharing this. Nothing surprises anymore.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6430687]Don't waste your time with this one.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/kjmyRG1z0XKQBWZ57DLlYvQg[/URL]

Offered an amount for a date, I accepted. She was fine with date but wants to let me know she has to bring her boyfriend. Told her I'll pass.[/QUOTE]Same here. I told her the only types she'll attract are guys who get off cucking other younger men, or filthy mongers who don't care, just want to fuck an 18 yo. I also told her she basically is presenting herself as a prostitute who has to have her pimp around. She denied that, but then admitted she will have sex, but he has to be in the actual room. Good luck, kiddo.

REPORT THEM. When you see these types, catch a screenshot of the conversation, save it, then report them, and demand a refund of your credits. You'll get them back. Select "Solicitation" and tell them exactly what happened. I started doing this earlier in April, and have managed to get OVER 250 credits back. I just basically keep cycling through, reporting every scammer, money beggar, or liar that comes to light, because fuck them for that bullshit. The credits aren't cheap. Nor am I, but I'm not spending them on someone to waste my time, when there are others I could have used those credits with.

But please help out, guys. The more of us that report these assholes and scammers, the better the site will be. Clear out the garbage together. Community effort.

[QUOTE=Mike515;6430878]LOL, at least she didn't surprise you and you end up being the 3rd wheel. Thanks for sharing this. Nothing surprises anymore.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/kjmyRG1z0XKQBWZ57DLlYvQg[/URL]

She told me the same thing. Says her bf will come along. Says the bf is not gay, but she will do both of us, and we can take turns.

Damn, was thinking about seeing SunShineShan for more than just a cuddle.

Any other ladies on the cuddle sites that you'd recommend?

[QUOTE=DelToro;6428645]It was not your lack of game. Her attitude changed enormously once she met a particular guy with the cuddling.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MitchCor;6431549]Damn, was thinking about seeing SunShineShan for more than just a cuddle.

Any other ladies on the cuddle sites that you'd recommend?[/QUOTE]There is a similar lady in Portland, will bang you but no wants to culk and watch as you play, not my thing.