"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

" Several years back I actually met online, and three hours later after a few drinks downtown had in my bed a genuine virgin (grad student). Her hymen was still so thick you couldn't get a finger past it without ripping her cherry open" . JL.

So JL, are you going to keep us waiting? Did you pop that cherry? Tell us about it. Pain? Suffering? Blood everywhere? Or did you activate your extreme mojo to anesthetize her to accomplish the deed?

Virgins are actually a big responsibility to get them acclimated to the sex world in a positive way. It is our duty! Hoo Rah!

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2174988]" Several years back I actually met online, and three hours later after a few drinks downtown had in my bed a genuine virgin (grad student). Her hymen was still so thick you couldn't get a finger past it without ripping her cherry open" . JL.

So JL, are you going to keep us waiting? Did you pop that cherry? Tell us about it. Pain? Suffering? Blood everywhere? Or did you activate your extreme mojo to anesthetize her to accomplish the deed?

Virgins are actually a big responsibility to get them acclimated to the sex world in a positive way. It is our duty! Hoo Rah![/QUOTE]LOL. I only mentioned that as an illustration of how an extreme case of a "good girl" can become not such a good girl in a very short period of time. She was a find on a civy dating site, so to get "too deep in all the gory details" (heh) are a little off topic for this forum. I usually try to keep my posts somehow relevant to the sugarbowl and that full story would be headed down a different path for sure. If you're really curious about the outcome shoot me an e-mail -- the details are "unique" and could identify me personally because I've told this story to people who know me personally so I won't post too much info publicly. I'm not a fan of oversharing.

What do home contractors and POT SBs have in common? Frequent Flaking.

I have had a string of 5 flakes in a row for M&G. Excuses ranging from being sick, not responding, last minute friend visit etc.

I am curious to know what everyones flake rate is? If they flake do you still pursue?

Reading though the forum, I think I am approaching this Sugar bowl with wrong tactics.

- First I need to acquire a fake picture that resembles me.

- I need to be a bit more aggressive in my initial introduction. If anyone could share a outline of their initial intro email I would greatly appreciate it. I send a well written 3 paragraph template and response rate is very low.

The best response is from UTR and escorts.

My target segment is 21 - 30, slim or athletic, white or asian. This segment of the population is requesting $$ per meeting, which is a bit high for my budget.

Thanks in advance.

Ok, how many of you met your young SB and find out her mom actually drove her there and knows that she is going to see an SD? Would you go say Hi to her mom?

[QUOTE=Latex;2175127]What do home contractors and POT SBs have in common? Frequent Flaking.

I have had a string of 5 flakes in a row for M&G. Excuses ranging from being sick, not responding, last minute friend visit etc.

I am curious to know what everyones flake rate is? If they flake do you still pursue?[/QUOTE]Flake rate can be high. Double book.

[QUOTE=Latex;2175138]Reading though the forum, I think I am approaching this Sugar bowl with wrong tactics.

- First I need to acquire a fake picture that resembles me.

- I need to be a bit more aggressive in my initial introduction. If anyone could share a outline of their initial intro email I would greatly appreciate it. I send a well written 3 paragraph template and response rate is very low.

The best response is from UTR and escorts.

My target segment is 21 - 30, slim or athletic, white or asian. This segment of the population is requesting $$ per meeting, which is a bit high for my budget.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Glad I like black girls. $$ really is the rate for a fine ass white girl.

My new SB is so cute. And smart. Not that I ever make that a qualification. 5'7 and 125 ..

[QUOTE=Latex;2175138]Reading though the forum, I think I am approaching this Sugar bowl with wrong tactics.

- First I need to acquire a fake picture that resembles me.

- I need to be a bit more aggressive in my initial introduction. If anyone could share a outline of their initial intro email I would greatly appreciate it. I send a well written 3 paragraph template and response rate is very low.

The best response is from UTR and escorts.

My target segment is 21 - 30, slim or athletic, white or asian. This segment of the population is requesting $$ per meeting, which is a bit high for my budget.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]This advice is for you if you use SA.

I believe that when women see your email, the first thing they look at is your pic.

Then if you meet their minimum attractiveness requirement, they read your profile.

When they read your profile, they want to see congruency between the email and the profile.

So if you're saying you're a fun guy looking for fun, don't be posting a pic of you looking all serious and creepy.

The way I do things is I use a short intro email saying I read their profile and they sound fun and I'd love to brainstorm fun stuff with them. Once they reply I'll email small talk back and forth two or three times. Then I'll move the conversation to texting. When I'm texting, I'm setting the meet and I'm teasing them sexually. This progression let's things happen pretty naturally with very little talk of money.

What's the rational for posting a similar looking pic?

Met this Latina for dinner last night. I had actually deleted her number after talking to her a couple weeks ago. She seemed a little distant. But she txted me last nite right as I was going out to eat, so good timing. She was nice enough, a little thick in the middle from bein a mom. She was kinda shy but said I could fuck her this Sunday. I might, as she can drive to me and she lives far away. Says she hasnt had any in a few months. She also mentioned that the few guys she did meet were kinda dorky and awkward and nothing ever happened. I hear that a lot.

[QUOTE=Latex;2175127]What do home contractors and POT SBs have in common? Frequent Flaking.

I have had a string of 5 flakes in a row for M&G. Excuses ranging from being sick, not responding, last minute friend visit etc.

I am curious to know what everyones flake rate is? If they flake do you still pursue?[/QUOTE]/ Flakes are extremely high but some times it pays to be persistent. I have reacquired many a flake by sticking with her. But once a flake she always will be so be prepared to deal with it as long as you see that SB.

My lineup (all BB) :

SB #1 was a flake. After FC #1 she went dark for 2 months. Just when I thought we were done I re initiated contact and had FC #2 . Since then communication has been better but not ideal yet and she could become an ATF. She is a 9/9/8/8 1 CPO.

SB # 2 is very reliable and communicates regularly. She is very happy with me and runs about. 75 CPO for 2 X / week She is 7/7/8/8. No flaking with her.

FB #1 is a flake but does provide BBFS with a 15 min turnaround. Good for a quickie if time is short, but availability is unpredictable. 75 CPO.

I have over 8 agreed to join me in the FC for $ to $$ but just do not have time to work them into the rotation.

[QUOTE=Brian139;2175788]Ok, how many of you met your young SB and find out her mom actually drove her there and knows that she is going to see an SD? Would you go say Hi to her mom?[/QUOTE]I have never had this happen, but I would go and check Mom out. You never know, she might be hot and want a deal of her own.

[QUOTE=CopperFool;2176583]I have never had this happen, but I would go and check Mom out. You never know, she might be hot and want a deal of her own.[/QUOTE]Several years ago I was fucking a really hot 19 why / o co-ed. Her Mom found out about it and sent me an e-mail asking me to not see her daughter anymore. One thing led to another and with a little teasing and persistence I was fucking Mom instead. She was almost as hot as the daughter. In fact, I could picture Mom being that hot when she was 19. I tried like hell to get the Mother / Daughter thing to happen, but I struck out on that. Eventually Mom moved on but it was awesome while it lasted. I don't personally know anyone else who has fucked the Daughter and the Mom. Wish I could have gotten them together. I have always wondered if the Daughter ever found out I was fucking her Mom.

I read an old report from the Moscow board. (Reports of Distinction post #77) by the well known DrSkank. He is an icon there but unfortunately is not active on the forum any longer.

He tells of a single meet with a hottie which really was very much like the reports I've read here on the SugarBaby board. Just wanted to share with the link. I think many here will enjoy the story.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2940-Dating-Russian-Women&p=823328[/URL]#post823328.

My main SB just spoke with my wife.

Yes, the reaction you all just had was what I experienced as well, though about 1000-fold stronger.

My wife is the manager of a facility in town. My SB wrote me an email earlier today relating a bad experience she had when visiting that facility, and her ensuing conversation with the manager. SB made it clear that the manager was a female, and I know for a fact that my wife is the only female manager / assistant manager working there right now.

My first action, after my heart started beating again, was to go back over my history with SB to determine whether there is any (plausible) chance she could have learned my real name, job, etc. I don't believe so, but this just goes to show once again that you can NEVER be too careful.

Dr. Feelgood.

P.S.: Apparently my wife addressed the problem and was pleasant and helpful. That's good. I think.