"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=KingGreg;2168377]How safe it is to meet at SBs place? Lets say SB is staying in apt. She says, it is ok to come to her place. ! Is it safe? First time.[/QUOTE]To me that is the Holy Grail. Yes, she could be a Pro but you can probably figure that out pretty quickly. I would not hesitate to take the free room. It saves you the $$ and she is in her home environment and maybe feels less escortish. Also the paper trail is not there as it would be in a hotel. I have had 4 SBs welcome me into their homes after a M&G. One had dogs (4) who slept in the bed with us, 2 had young children who woke up all night, and 2 were heavy smokers so the house smelled like an ashtray. In the end, I like saving money but I would not stay all night in those circumstances. Just do your business and leave.

Dangerous? Possibly if you get a total nutcase. Do not bring your wallet into the house, hide your car keys where you will wakeup if she rummages around for them, and lock your phoneor better still leave that in the car locked up. I lost my burner phone at one sleepover. I'm sure she unlocked my car and took it to use the free minutes.

So have you guys seen a rise in girls wanting to be dominated and participate in a little S&M since the book came out and the movie is OTW?

I have noticed that the majority of new profiles in my area are girls 18 to 26 and many list "server, bartender, and dancer " as their occupation. And many of those are in college. I run a screen for 30 to 40 yr olds on SA and there are very few new listings in my demographic. I screen for White / Asian / Hispanic, slim / athletic / average. It seems many college girls are broke and need a few extra bucks. And given their relaxed attitude towards recreational sex they are by far the most easy group to connect with.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2168936]So have you guys seen a rise in girls wanting to be dominated and participate in a little S&M since the book came out and the movie is OTW[/QUOTE]The group was always there. One of my profiles is pretty much that upfront. And they flock like moths to the light.

They have always been there, just a bit more open about it since the book came out.

This is hardly a report.

I am a committed guy with a lot to lose, so I keep it close to the chest.

I met a local a year or two ago for a M and G. Her place I think. She was likely scamming others with M and G fees, placed smelled funky as in weed, cigs, not the dog she said was there. Shootings nearby-student housing go figure. She was hawt but tough to get to. She might have gone with me on a shopping trip once but it was tough to arrange.

THis week, another from CL, nearby town. Great face. She expected FULL NAME and occupation before meeting. Criminal justice major in college. Would not meet, thought this would have been a first.

I'm worried about paying for SA, perhaps get a prepaid card? I expect the competition is stiff.

I might just stick with tried and true outlets. I enjoy reading youse all tails.

So I have been chatting it up with young girls off of SA and it hit me "what if they want to do a meet and greet, where do I take them?

Let's face it 99.9999% of the time the SD is going to be much older than the SB. I thought about dinner but I don't want a waiter constantly coming over and giving us looks like "yeah I know what's going on here".

So, if you were going to met someone who was extremely younger than you are and it's noticeable, where would you meet her?

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2169516]So I have been chatting it up with young girls off of SA and it hit me "what if they want to do a meet and greet, where do I take them?

Let's face it 99.9999% of the time the SD is going to be much older than the SB. I thought about dinner but I don't want a waiter constantly coming over and giving us looks like "yeah I know what's going on here".

So, if you were going to met someone who was extremely younger than you are and it's noticeable, where would you meet her?[/QUOTE]The waiter is only thinking about what kind of tip he's going to get, he's not judging you. It could be your daughter, niece, etc. for all he knows or cares. Just don't try to finger her knuckles deep at the table or anything and nobody will think twice about it.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2169516]
So, if you were going to met someone who was extremely younger than you are and it's noticeable, where would you meet her?[/QUOTE]I'm always a little self conscious about it too. I still do dinner sometimes, or coffee, or since it's hot out an ice cream place. My newest recently quit her job as a a waitress at one of the restaurants where I have met 5 or 6 girls for dinner, so I asked her what she thought when she served a couple with an obvious large age difference. I figured since she knows the deal it would have been obvious to her, but JL is right, she said she never thought twice about it. I have had a couple of male bartenders give me a smirk, and a guy once complimented me on my "lovely daughter", but hey, screw them, I'm taking her back to my place later and making her squeal.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;2169661]I'm always a little self conscious about it too. I still do dinner sometimes, or coffee, or since it's hot out an ice cream place. My newest recently quit her job as a a waitress at one of the restaurants where I have met 5 or 6 girls for dinner, so I asked her what she thought when she served a couple with an obvious large age difference. I figured since she knows the deal it would have been obvious to her, but JL is right, she said she never thought twice about it. I have had a couple of male bartenders give me a smirk, and a guy once complimented me on my "lovely daughter", but hey, screw them, I'm taking her back to my place later and making her squeal.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys I needed a good laugh. Several months back I met up with the most beautiful woman. She was only 21 but still young looking. So we went out to dinner and during the meal My date went to the bathroom and our waiter, obviously one of those stupid frat guys, leaned over to me and said "dude your girl is super hot!" LOL.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;2169661]but hey, screw them, I'm taking her back to my place later and making her squeal.[/QUOTE]On a semi-related note. Now that it's warmer weather, I've been to several venues where the young nymphets are out in their bikinis strutting their stuff. Either oblivious to their sex appeal or all too aware. In the not too distant past, this was a very depressing thing. I wasn't exactly a player in my youth, so I wasn't partaking of the goods back then, and these days it was all just a reminder of the unattainable being flaunted in my face.

But now, the hotties who wouldn't give me a second look don't phase me at all. Their loss, because I've got a baby every bit as hot as they are and I am [I]seriously[/I] rocking her world on a regular basis.

[QUOTE=Walruscl;2169767]On a semi-related note. Now that it's warmer weather, I've been to several venues where the young nymphets are out in their bikinis strutting their stuff. Either oblivious to their sex appeal or all too aware.[/QUOTE]All too aware. While there are attractive females out there who are unaware what they have, they are rare and tend to not expend effort revealing it.

The ones wearing bikinis already know full well what they have, and in the case of SBs are trying to figure out the monetary value of their assets before those assets depreciate with age.

That's part of what makes this whole game possible, the innate female desire to answer the question of "what's my pussy worth?" It's just a competitive thing they are born with. They want to place a number on it and that's why they like fishing for SB allowance. It helps quantify their value in their own mind to put a dollar amount on it.

The same ones you see walking around acting like they don't know they are hot in their bikinis are the same ones that will have about 35 duck-face-lip-pucker selfies on their FB account.

But none of the hot ones are ever oblivious to their appeal. They learn young what they have, then various men and other women remind them of it on a daily basis, especially in an always-online society. The ones acting like "who?? Me?? hot??" are the extra slick ones you need to watch even closer... LOL

Hey guys. Just entering the sugar bowl here in Boston. Spent the last few weeks on SA with decent success. Been reading through this thread and really appreciate all the great info you guys have contributed over the years.

Thanks, keep it up. Hope to have some contributions of my own soon.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2169777]All too aware. While there are attractive females out there who are unaware what they have, they are rare and tend to not expend effort revealing it.

The ones wearing bikinis already know full well what they have, and in the case of SBs are trying to figure out the monetary value of their assets before those assets depreciate with age.

But none of the hot ones are ever oblivious to their appeal. They learn young what they have, then various men and other women remind them of it on a daily basis, especially in an always-online society. The ones acting like "who?? Me?? hot??" are the extra slick ones you need to watch even closer... LOL[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that less than 5% of young college age girls would consider this lifestyle. In fact, they are grossed out by some "old" guy thinking about fucking them. They call us creepers. I agree they are out there trying to attract the guys attention, but usually age appropriate and in a look don't touch mode. How do I know this? I have a daughter, nieces and all their friends who talk about it amongst themselves. I am a fly on the wall listening to it laughing inside. I remember seeing a survey in some news article about SA a few years ago about what colleges have the highest participation rate with SA. Georgia was high on the list and I think the rate was 5% .

Looking to join SA and was looking for advice. Is the site worth joining? Any help is appreciated. I know you guys are the experts.

One of the joys of this hobby is getting to experience technique and different physical attributes. All woman are beautiful unto themselves. SB 20 is a 43 yo that I really thought would be a low ball one time deal. Told me she had been told she is tight (sure don't they all). But she has the tightest pussy! She likes to come over and start bydrink a beer and making out while sitting on my lap. I can feel her thighs getting wet and by the time she finished the beer and I lean her over the couch she is dripping. And off to the races. If I can get her into the third hole I am hooked. Says she has only done with her husband on coke so we are not going there that way! That will make for a way expensive date.

You never know!

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2170106]Keep in mind that less than 5% of young college age girls would consider this lifestyle. In fact, they are grossed out by some "old" guy thinking about fucking them. They call us creepers. I agree they are out there trying to attract the guys attention, but usually age appropriate and in a look don't touch mode. How do I know this? I have a daughter, nieces and all their friends who talk about it amongst themselves. I am a fly on the wall listening to it laughing inside. I remember seeing a survey in some news article about SA a few years ago about what colleges have the highest participation rate with SA. Georgia was high on the list and I think the rate was 5% .[/QUOTE]If you mean only 5% would put a profile on an SD site, then I can certainly believe it would be that low. But I was talking about hot women flaunting their bodies in general in the context of the prior posters' comments.

Hot women in general share certain common traits. Even if they don't join SD websites, the percentage of hot women that would gladly accept an older SD that will keep them safely in the lifestyle they would prefer is probably up around 90%. Even if they don't want an older guy, the percentage of hot women who care about the value of their appearance and their overall sex appeal is probably 99%. Girls will say and do one thing to their friends but then conduct their life in a completely different manner given the opportunity. It is in their nature to not reveal their pay for play fantasies.

That's more what I was talking about when I say they want to quantify the value of their pussy. That's just a female thing, not an SB thing necessarily.

About the top colleges for SB, I've seen a few of those articles (just google for "top sugarbaby colleges" or similar) and most of them list different schools from year to year. Like most "best of" lists, the methodology for coming up with the list tends to be heavily flawed and put together for one purpose only, to draw people to an article and get them to click the ads around the article, so it's really all one marketing scam. The only way I would believe any list that tells me they know which schools have the highest SB ratio per capita (the only way to calculate it in any meaningful way, because of course larger schools are going to have more sluts. Duh) would be if maybe SA or one of those sites sold them data on their membership based on the prevalence of particular. Edu domains in their e-mail address (SA for example gives college girls free premium access if they sign up with their college email address). And yes it's possible that SA does do that for some of these lists, but I think most of them are cooked up by marketing yutzes that just want to sell click bait ads.