[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5244489]She did a short tour at KPC if I remember correctly. She has bounced around between Bunnygirls and Viola's in San Mateo as Nara / Nana.[/QUOTE]Wow, her last couple of TER reviews as Nana in San Mateo don't look inspiring.
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[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5244489]She did a short tour at KPC if I remember correctly. She has bounced around between Bunnygirls and Viola's in San Mateo as Nara / Nana.[/QUOTE]Wow, her last couple of TER reviews as Nana in San Mateo don't look inspiring.
[QUOTE=Veni1;5245644]Wow, her last couple of TER reviews as Nana in San Mateo don't look inspiring.[/QUOTE]She's always had very mixed reviews. Anybody who decides to see her should keep that in mind.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5245038]Piper / Ara is charging $300 now? I'm surprised as she was complaining that she wasn't getting a lot of business the last time I saw her. Usually, increasing rates don't drum up demand.[/QUOTE]Oldest trick in the book. She is getting the business. For the non upcharge girls at orgs do you not notice the popular girls are at $300. Hana Allie Pepsi. I think Ara is well worth her 300. She will literally BBBJ you beyond what other girls will do. She is one of the top in our market currently as far as service and value. She is one of my CF I rotate often. Others are paying 420 for mediocre girls who were once 280 and don't complain. I welcome more good girls like Ara please. Spread the word to NorCal, come down here.
For the profit comment, they do make more money here. With the NorCal increase, the orgs took half of that increase while LA doesn't change fee. So at the non upcharge rate, SoCal girl would make 20 more still per. The real reason why they stay up there is because it's a smaller market and a large supply of clients. More tech guys obsessed with Asians and they are more consistent. My monger buddy sees 4-5 girls a week but their rate is much lower so they monger more often and book multiple hours. I used to book 2-3 hours often too but I don't down here.
[QUOTE=MauiDiver;5245700] (Alyssa) always had very mixed reviews. Anybody who decides to see her should keep that in mind.[/QUOTE]With this crowd, the least she could do is offer msog CIP.
[QUOTE=Toungsten;5245419]Moni has gone underground.[/QUOTE]Fine, we'll settle for Ms Pepsi instead. By the way, what happened to her? She on a long Vaca?
M.
Sunny. Lyn, Joy, Niya, Nuri.
Newtopasian. LA Sera, Sia, Min.
Sexy Angels. Sophia, Erika. Emma, Ivy, Jool Gina.
SFK. Alyssa.
PKL. Saki, Ara.
Sesang.
Angelsinwla. Hana.
KGLA. Haper, Saki, Piper.
[QUOTE=CptfPower;5245070]Just curious who else pep after BBFS?[/QUOTE]Just some numbers to alleviate some concerns. The risk of viral transmission from an infected female to a male through regular unprotected intercourse (we're not talking rough bb anal here) is 0. 04%. Add to that, the odds of a Kgirl actually being infected in the first place, and your talking super low risk.
[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5245705]Oldest trick in the book. She is getting the business. For the non upcharge girls at orgs do you not notice the popular girls are at $300. Hana Allie Pepsi. I think Ara is well worth her 300. She will literally BBBJ you beyond what other girls will do. She is one of the top in our market currently as far as service and value. She is one of my CF I rotate often. Others are paying 420 for mediocre girls who were once 280 and don't complain. I welcome more good girls like Ara please. Spread the word to NorCal, come down here.
For the profit comment, they do make more money here. With the NorCal increase, the orgs took half of that increase while LA doesn't change fee. So at the non upcharge rate, SoCal girl would make 20 more still per. The real reason why they stay up there is because it's a smaller market and a large supply of clients. More tech guys obsessed with Asians and they are more consistent. My monger buddy sees 4-5 girls a week but their rate is much lower so they monger more often and book multiple hours. I used to book 2-3 hours often too but I don't down here.[/QUOTE]I've seen Piper / Ara mentioned together all the time. Is this the same person? If not do you recommend Ara over Piper?
[QUOTE=Toungsten;5245928]M.
Sunny. Lyn, Joy, Niya, Nuri.
Newtopasian. LA Sera, Sia, Min.
Sexy Angels. Sophia, Erika. Emma, Ivy, Jool Gina.
SFK. Alyssa.
PKL. Saki, Ara.
Sesang.
Angelsinwla. Hana.
KGLA. Haper, Saki, Piper.[/QUOTE]Wow, I've never seen M without anyone. Dying out like the palace?
[QUOTE=AndyX24;5246035]I've seen Piper / Ara mentioned together all the time. Is this the same person? If not do you recommend Ara over Piper?[/QUOTE]Same person. Ara is her main bookers at PKL and then secondary org KGLA is Piper.
[QUOTE=CrunchEazy;5246121]Wow, I've never seen M without anyone. Dying out like the palace?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm worried about M brother. May not make it out of out.
[QUOTE=OCpyro;5245975]Just some numbers to alleviate some concerns. The risk of viral transmission from an infected female to a male through regular unprotected intercourse (we're not talking rough bb anal here) is 0. 04%. Add to that, the odds of a Kgirl actually being infected in the first place, and your talking super low risk.[/QUOTE]I'd still say if you're concerned you shouldn't be doing it because you're seeking false reassurance by asking on this thread, one of the first posts I read when I first moved to LA was here on the Korean bb thread and it was a senior member who was really worried he was positive for something. Never posted on the thread again. So that was kinda like my wake up call. Anywho, I am human and My other head has gotten the better of me a couple times. Again this thread was created to find BBFS girls and any risks associated with should be assumed to be part of the game.
Hey why'all. Was wondering if anyone recognizes this gal Ria?
[URL]https://newasianvibe.is/project/ria/[/URL]
Her some of her pics remind me of Kira from NorCal org BGC. But some of the others seem like a past Ca-kdoll gal.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=PussyDestroyr;5246145]Yeah, I'm worried about M brother. May not make it out of out.[/QUOTE]This was my post of like 6 weeks ago.
"Well, in recent months she lost a couple of her girls to better paying bookers. Money talks and an extra 100 is an irresistible argument for the girls. Providing good looking girls with a good service attitude for a much lower pay will be the challenge for M. ".
M will have to change her biz model. Sub 300 BBFS is history and she has to take on the better paying competition. M has a huge, loyal customer base and should still be able to offer a better rate than the competitors.
Watched some porn of tia ling, she look more like Ara than Ara looking like Asa Akira. Both girls got banging abs. Ara's blowjob pretty rough. I still gave her another try next time.
[QUOTE=JBarry28;5246294]Hey why'all. Was wondering if anyone recognizes this gal Ria?
[URL]https://newasianvibe.is/project/ria/[/URL]
Her some of her pics remind me of Kira from NorCal org BGC. But some of the others seem like a past Ca-kdoll gal.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]She was recently running the AA circuit in the bay. I recognize the pics but can't remember her name. If someone else could chime in. Its definitely not Kira though.
Booker texted me today that Angel was available. After reading some other reviews, decided to give it a shot. She is definitely cute and young looking. Very quiet and shy. Service was decent. Right after the shower she asked for donation first which is usually a bad sign to me LOL. You can tell she's new but definitely tries. Lots of DFK. Decent BBBJ. Didn't pay for the BB option, so she put on the cover and asked me to be on top. Did mish for a bit and then finished in doggy. Paid for the hour but she already asked me to shower about 35 min in. Felt rushed to leave as soon as I finished. If I had known that, I would have paced myself. Told the booker I wasn't happy that I was rushed out after paying for an hour. Told me sorry and that she just came from Korea and would talk to her about it. Not a repeat for me.
[QUOTE=JBarry28;5246294]Hey why'all. Was wondering if anyone recognizes this gal Ria?
[URL]https://newasianvibe.is/project/ria/[/URL]
Her some of her pics remind me of Kira from NorCal org BGC. But some of the others seem like a past Ca-kdoll gal.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I pmd you, but for everyone. Kira had pics of face that were resembling her real face.
This girl has different pics of at least three different kgirls. I don't think this is Kira. Kira has manmades Ds and delivers pretty aggressive "old PSE" and BBFS / pse.
[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5245705]Oldest trick in the book. She is getting the business. For the non upcharge girls at orgs do you not notice the popular girls are at $300. Hana Allie Pepsi. I think Ara is well worth her 300. She will literally BBBJ you beyond what other girls will do. She is one of the top in our market currently as far as service and value. She is one of my CF I rotate often. Others are paying 420 for mediocre girls who were once 280 and don't complain. I welcome more good girls like Ara please. Spread the word to NorCal, come down here.
For the profit comment, they do make more money here. With the NorCal increase, the orgs took half of that increase while LA doesn't change fee. So at the non upcharge rate, SoCal girl would make 20 more still per. The real reason why they stay up there is because it's a smaller market and a large supply of clients. More tech guys obsessed with Asians and they are more consistent. My monger buddy sees 4-5 girls a week but their rate is much lower so they monger more often and book multiple hours. I used to book 2-3 hours often too but I don't down here.[/QUOTE]If the point of the trick is to invoke pity and see her more often, then I rather pity the monger that falls for it. Want me to come more often (no pun intended)? Then you need to show and prove it through service. This pricematching shenanigans is deja vu all over again like in the past with Rebecca and Chloe. Hana starts it all off at the $300 mark, then others push up or start at that price. Jealously, envy, and face is damn ingrained in Korean culture and it's a ***** to be caught in the crossfire. Each provider has a right to charge whatever they want and think they can command. However, mongers will ultimately determine if that gambit succeeds or not.
[QUOTE=PumpNDump;5245079]Just out of curiosity who was it that you tried as your intial bb experience? Was the pep due to your own precaution?[/QUOTE]It was with Hana, who is my ATF and the only girl I would even think to go BB with. To be clear, I have zero reason to believe Hana has anything, the pep is just me trying to eliminate the albeit low risk because at the end of the day she is extremely popular. I was just saying that the BB game is not for everyone. I've seen Hana many many times and always covered because I just like to play it safe.
No regrets though, it was amazing and I wouldn't have tried it if it was with anyone else. I imagine if Hana had something everyone would know within minutes, haha.
I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby, especially outside of kgirls. The safety and security afforded by the kgirl model has mitigated a lot of the horrible outcomes you sometimes come across or hear about. As a matter of fact, it's been so successful to the point that money can be verified after the fact, out of sight and out of mind. Usually and unfortunately, if they verify first then something must of happened to institute this practice.
I just don't want mongers to equate and conflate verifying donation first as a foreshadowing of bad service. It could or could not. But if it does turn out bad, false equivalence and confirmation bias may be incorrectly established and applied. Logically, how exactly does the act of counting money in any way inform you of how a girl is going to perform?
[QUOTE=MauiDiver;5245700]She's always had very mixed reviews. Anybody who decides to see her should keep that in mind.[/QUOTE]Mixed reviews are an understatement.
Nana averages out to a 6.4 performance on TER, and that's even with your three high scoring reviews of her, out of 35 total reviews!
With SA.
Photos: It's her, but P.S. 'ed to trim off excess curves.
Looks: Very cute face, 4'10", amazing natural D's, OK ass, shaven pussy. Pale skin, short and stocky frame. IMO, she's quite chubby and borderline fat. I do love thick and curvy girls but she's out of my preferred rotundity profile. When your hands are beginning to plump up like hers, you are either pregnant, have periphery edema, or overweight.
English: Decent amount.
Attitude: Friendly, bubbly, and aims to please.
Service: Overall above average. She's gung-ho and cooperative on what you want of her. She enjoys breast play and is very proud of her naturals. Easy going personality lends to a very organic session. Audio feedback was decent. Good DFK throughout. BBBJ was good. Not much DT or BLS though. She was engaged in CG. K9 was Ok. Mish was best with her cute face and bouncing tits. BBFSCIP.
Expense: $280.
Repeat: Leaning towards no. Service was good but looks dropping her rating down hard. She would easily be top 5 if she could lose some weight.
With SFK.
Photos: It's her.
Looks: A bit of an exotic face but attractive, nostrils are abnormally angled and sharp (surgery probably), has a constant look as if she's squinting at you with a look of doubt, 5'2", man made C's (a bit on the firm side), little ass but looks decent in K9 surprisingly, shaven pussy. Slender figure with soft curves. Pale skin tone, no tattoos, small birthmark under right breast.
English: A little bit.
Attitude: Flippant and aloof.
Service: Overall below average. Limited LFK, no DFK. She moves on to different position at her discretion and insistence. BBBJ was simple and short. K9 was pretty good as her ass become quite shapely in this position. Mish was difficult in particular because she kept her legs stiff preventing deep penetration. As soon as I CIP, she motioned me to get off and went to clean herself. BBFSCIP.
Expense: $300.
Repeat: For the price and performance, definitely a no. Her service needs an overhaul along with that attitude.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246560]I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby.[/QUOTE]Funny cause before I dove dick first into this hedonistic hijinx, I've read that exact same sentiment in the book "Hobbying for Dummies."
On a related note, most sessions I just conspicuously place the fun tickets on the dresser, then help myself to the BA to wash my hands and BT. Whether she counts it or not is up to her, but the point is to get it out of the way.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246560]I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby, especially outside of kgirls. The safety and security afforded by the kgirl model has mitigated a lot of the horrible outcomes you sometimes come across or hear about. As a matter of fact, it's been so successful to the point that money can be verified after the fact, out of sight and out of mind. Usually and unfortunately, if they verify first then something must of happened to institute this practice.
I just don't want mongers to equate and conflate verifying donation first as a foreshadowing of bad service. It could or could not. But if it does turn out bad, false equivalence and confirmation bias may be incorrectly established and applied. Logically, how exactly does the act of counting money in any way inform you of how a girl is going to perform?[/QUOTE]Girl told me that some guys pay with counterfeit bills. They take the donation into the other room and mark it with fake detector pen.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246560]I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby, especially outside of kgirls. The safety and security afforded by the kgirl model has mitigated a lot of the horrible outcomes you sometimes come across or hear about. As a matter of fact, it's been so successful to the point that money can be verified after the fact, out of sight and out of mind. Usually and unfortunately, if they verify first then something must of happened to institute this practice.
I just don't want mongers to equate and conflate verifying donation first as a foreshadowing of bad service. It could or could not. But if it does turn out bad, false equivalence and confirmation bias may be incorrectly established and applied. Logically, how exactly does the act of counting money in any way inform you of how a girl is going to perform?[/QUOTE]I agree with you here. Asking for donation upfront is not necessarily correlated with bad service. Some of my best sessions happened with upfront donations. I have heard from more than one booker that they have had customers leave without paying so they have the girl ask for beforehand, but if they already know you, likely they'll skip it. Upcharge girls will usually ask for it before, for obvious reasons.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246560]I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby, especially outside of kgirls. The safety and security afforded by the kgirl model has mitigated a lot of the horrible outcomes you sometimes come across or hear about. As a matter of fact, it's been so successful to the point that money can be verified after the fact, out of sight and out of mind. Usually and unfortunately, if they verify first then something must of happened to institute this practice.
I just don't want mongers to equate and conflate verifying donation first as a foreshadowing of bad service. It could or could not. But if it does turn out bad, false equivalence and confirmation bias may be incorrectly established and applied. Logically, how exactly does the act of counting money in any way inform you of how a girl is going to perform?[/QUOTE]My bad for not being more clear. I mentioned it was always a bad sign to me. That's just based on MY OWN experience. I've been in the hobby for about 8 years and I'd say most of the time where I was asked for donation first, the service was not that great. As always, this is just my own experience. Everything in this hobby is YMMV. Just sharing my own experience. Things could be totally different for everyone else.
[QUOTE=PlutoKiller;5246305]This was my post of like 6 weeks ago.
"Well, in recent months she lost a couple of her girls to better paying bookers. Money talks and an extra 100 is an irresistible argument for the girls. Providing good looking girls with a good service attitude for a much lower pay will be the challenge for M. ".
M will have to change her biz model. Sub 300 BBFS is history and she has to take on the better paying competition. M has a huge, loyal customer base and should still be able to offer a better rate than the competitors.[/QUOTE]Loyal customer LOL. Customer will just go wherever the good looking girls are going. If there is a girl I like I will see her doesn't matter which booker she is with. M, B,D or S doesn't matter what alphabet the booker he / she is. Just look at the Hana situation, are the John's more loyal to Hana or M?
Unless this mythical M thing is the only person in Los Angeles that could bring in girls that are 10/10 in looks then we could talk about being loyal to a booker.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246540]If the point of the trick is to invoke pity and see her more often, then I rather pity the monger that falls for it. Want me to come more often (no pun intended)? Then you need to show and prove it through service. This pricematching shenanigans is deja vu all over again like in the past with Rebecca and Chloe. Hana starts it all off at the $300 mark, then others push up or start at that price. Jealously, envy, and face is damn ingrained in Korean culture and it's a ***** to be caught in the crossfire. Each provider has a right to charge whatever they want and think they can command. However, mongers will ultimately determine if that gambit succeeds or not.[/QUOTE]But the little head down there will prevail. Guys had no complaints about paying Jamie 360 hr well over a year ago and now here we are at 420 hr 2 pop. That ship has sailed and these are the new dates until real new arrivals come. But if 300 with Hana or Ara doesn't satisfy a monger then that guy is one picky dude. They both set a standard for service and attitude. Depending on preference look wise. They set a good standard for the price range. Allie Hana Ara Pepsi well deserving of their rate in today's market.
For all you have visited Ivy, what do you think about her comparing to Allie?
They seem like the same body type or age.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=RocketManP;5246563]Mixed reviews are an understatement.
Nana averages out to a 6.4 performance on TER, and that's even with your three high scoring reviews of her, out of 35 total reviews![/QUOTE]
The new KWapvibe Nana? Don't know about. However the real Nana is the Energizer bunny Nana and she spoils most and gets taken for granted. She is built like a gymnast. Young, tight, compact with curves. If she slowed her roll rather than her usual frenetic pace everyone would be happy. Nevertheless, she is still an E-Ticket ride at Disneyland!
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246560]I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby, especially outside of kgirls. The safety and security afforded by the kgirl model has mitigated a lot of the horrible outcomes you sometimes come across or hear about. As a matter of fact, it's been so successful to the point that money can be verified after the fact, out of sight and out of mind. Usually and unfortunately, if they verify first then something must of happened to institute this practice.
I just don't want mongers to equate and conflate verifying donation first as a foreshadowing of bad service. It could or could not. But if it does turn out bad, false equivalence and confirmation bias may be incorrectly established and applied. Logically, how exactly does the act of counting money in any way inform you of how a girl is going to perform?[/QUOTE]BC is absolutely right. This protocol and has been forever or at least 25 yrs. That I know of personally.
[QUOTE=PlutoKiller;5246305]This was my post of like 6 weeks ago.
"Well, in recent months she lost a couple of her girls to better paying bookers. Money talks and an extra 100 is an irresistible argument for the girls. Providing good looking girls with a good service attitude for a much lower pay will be the challenge for M. ".
M will have to change her biz model. Sub 300 BBFS is history and she has to take on the better paying competition. M has a huge, loyal customer base and should still be able to offer a better rate than the competitors.[/QUOTE]Look I'll be frank, M brought that on herself and it has nothing to do the pricing the model, it has to do with her poor way of doing business. She's way too hard on new clients, practically unprofessional and sometimes downright mean. Terrible communication to anyone who's not already "a regular". She throws new clients who are clearly well vetted in the trash. She's throws out of town visitors right in the trash. She throws local clients who has long list of references in the trash just because they aren't vetted with a very particular set of bookers. For example, I gave that women a stack of all my most personal info, she had my whole life in digital format, I gave her 12 good HX references and 4 k agency references. All this trying to get to Hana. Apparently none of that shit was good enough for her standards. She tells me I'm going to have to first see 3 girls that I have no interest in from either Tom, Gray or Kate. At the time there was nobody on those rosters that interested me and I didn't feel like blowing $660 on ladies I didn't want, just to have the opportunity to blow another 300 on Hana. I personally know so many members who have a story similar to mine. All that good potential business in the trash, for nothing. It's just basic business 101; no matter what industry you're in, the blood lifeline of your success is NEW clients. If you shit all over the new clients because you only want to deal with the old ones then eventually prepare to fail. In Hana's last days with M, there was so many open time slots and days where you could clearly see Hana not getting business dispute being the best damn K girl in the market. M literally being a cockblocker. Also she's the only one with no established website that has the basic info a new client would need to make an informed decision. Literally unprofessional and always shrouded in the shadows like it's some bigass secret society. It's not fucking Fight Club M.
[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5246865]Look I'll be frank, M brought that on herself and it has nothing to do the pricing the model, it has to do with her poor way of doing business. She's way too hard on new clients, practically unprofessional and sometimes downright mean. Terrible communication to anyone who's not already "a regular". She throws new clients who are clearly well vetted in the trash. She's throws out of town visitors right in the trash. She throws local clients who has long list of references in the trash just because they aren't vetted with a very particular set of bookers. For example, I gave that women a stack of all my most personal info, she had my whole life in digital format, I gave her 12 good HX references and 4 k agency references. All this trying to get to Hana. Apparently none of that shit was good enough for her standards. She tells me I'm going to have to first see 3 girls that I have no interest in from either Tom, Gray or Kate. At the time there was nobody on those rosters that interested me and I didn't feel like blowing $660 on ladies I didn't want, just to have the opportunity to blow another 300 on Hana. I personally know so many members who have a story similar to mine. All that good potential business in the trash, for nothing. It's just basic business 101; no matter what industry you're in, the blood lifeline of your success is NEW clients. If you shit all over the new clients because you only want to deal with the old ones then eventually prepare to fail. In Hana's last days with M, there was so many open time slots and days where you could clearly see Hana not getting business dispute being the best damn K girl in the market. M literally being a cockblocker. Also she's the only one with no established website that has the basic info a new client would need to make an informed decision. Literally unprofessional and always shrouded in the shadows like it's some bigass secret society. It's not fucking Fight Club M.[/QUOTE]LOL she is hard to get in with but she has no shortage of clients. I don't think this has anything to do with her not having business. I think the girls are going to higher paying agencies sadly. $350 with no upcharge for BBFS might be the best new model for M.
[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5246865]Look I'll be frank, M brought that on herself and it has nothing to do the pricing the model, it has to do with her poor way of doing business. She's way too hard on new clients, practically unprofessional and sometimes downright mean. Terrible communication to anyone who's not already "a regular". She throws new clients who are clearly well vetted in the trash. She's throws out of town visitors right in the trash. She throws local clients who has long list of references in the trash just because they aren't vetted with a very particular set of bookers. For example, I gave that women a stack of all my most personal info, she had my whole life in digital format, I gave her 12 good HX references and 4 k agency references. All this trying to get to Hana. Apparently none of that shit was good enough for her standards. She tells me I'm going to have to first see 3 girls that I have no interest in from either Tom, Gray or Kate. At the time there was nobody on those rosters that interested me and I didn't feel like blowing $660 on ladies I didn't want, just to have the opportunity to blow another 300 on Hana. I personally know so many members who have a story similar to mine. All that good potential business in the trash, for nothing. It's just basic business 101; no matter what industry you're in, the blood lifeline of your success is NEW clients. If you shit all over the new clients because you only want to deal with the old ones then eventually prepare to fail. In Hana's last days with M, there was so many open time slots and days where you could clearly see Hana not getting business dispute being the best damn K girl in the market. M literally being a cockblocker. Also she's the only one with no established website that has the basic info a new client would need to make an informed decision. Literally unprofessional and always shrouded in the shadows like it's some bigass secret society. It's not fucking Fight Club M.[/QUOTE]I was very grateful that I was able to book Bella and Hana (but mostly Hana) through the HX backdoor.
Got to see Mini as Mina (apologies if I used the wrong name) at KPC a few times in June, 2020 before she left.
I've been going at it for awhile and I still don't have access to M. I won't be terribly upset if she closes up shop, either.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246560]I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby, especially outside of kgirls. The safety and security afforded by the kgirl model has mitigated a lot of the horrible outcomes you sometimes come across or hear about. As a matter of fact, it's been so successful to the point that money can be verified after the fact, out of sight and out of mind. Usually and unfortunately, if they verify first then something must of happened to institute this practice.
I just don't want mongers to equate and conflate verifying donation first as a foreshadowing of bad service. It could or could not. But if it does turn out bad, false equivalence and confirmation bias may be incorrectly established and applied. Logically, how exactly does the act of counting money in any way inform you of how a girl is going to perform?[/QUOTE]I have a ton of experience with donation first at the aamps in SGV. Almost all of these experiences, save a few, were horrible and not worth the money. Within minutes they were asking me to come, haha.
The last two k-girls who asked for "donation first please" were Jennifer at SFK and Gahin and KPC.
Jennifer could barely speak English. I couldn't even make out what she was asking for at first.
I gave her the 260 and it was pure crud after that. She was probably the worst k girl experience I have had in the past year. The best part was CIP.
Even the booker said that he knew she was unexperienced. I think she was gone a few weeks after that.
Gahin, on the other hand, was a great experience. At first, I was slightly taken aback that she wanted the donation first. She was pretty gutsy considering her many flaws -- face, chin, teeth, saggy boobs, etc.
All that was quickly forgotten because she spent the next 50-55 minutes earning every dollar of that 280 I gave her. Good / great service.
I ask the booker (very nice BTW) about this and she said that a regular had passed off counterfeit bills to one of her girls just the day before.
These two are the total opposite of one my visits with Luna at SA, who once got the money I left her on her nightstand and threw it like a brat haha. She's very sassy --I don't care for her eye rolls though!
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246540]If the point of the trick is to invoke pity and see her more often, then I rather pity the monger that falls for it. Want me to come more often (no pun intended)? Then you need to show and prove it through service. This pricematching shenanigans is deja vu all over again like in the past with Rebecca and Chloe. Hana starts it all off at the $300 mark, then others push up or start at that price. Jealously, envy, and face is damn ingrained in Korean culture and it's a ***** to be caught in the crossfire. Each provider has a right to charge whatever they want and think they can command. However, mongers will ultimately determine if that gambit succeeds or not.[/QUOTE]Based on my limited experience, the only girl truly worth 300 is Hana. Allie, Pepsi, Ara (and even Viki) can charge 300 right now and that would be fair, to. But I'd choose to give Hana my 300 over the rest nine times out of ten.
I refuse to visit the upcharge girls, even if it's just 20 or 40 over 300. Dahee was great at 300, but factor in the drive from LA to the OC and the increase to 340 for MSOG CIP -- I'll pass.
Unfortunately, I don't see prices coming down anytime soon.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246610]With SFK.
Photos: It's her.
Looks: A bit of an exotic face but attractive, nostrils are abnormally angled and sharp (surgery probably), has a constant look as if she's squinting at you with a look of doubt, 5'2", man made C's (a bit on the firm side), little ass but looks decent in K9 surprisingly, shaven pussy. Slender figure with soft curves. Pale skin tone, no tattoos, small birthmark under right breast.
English: A little bit.
Attitude: Flippant and aloof.
Service: Overall below average. Limited LFK, no DFK. She moves on to different position at her discretion and insistence. BBBJ was simple and short. K9 was pretty good as her ass become quite shapely in this position. Mish was difficult in particular because she kept her legs stiff preventing deep penetration. As soon as I CIP, she motioned me to get off and went to clean herself. BBFSCIP.
Expense: $300.
Repeat: For the price and performance, definitely a no. Her service needs an overhaul along with that attitude.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the review. SFK has had a heck of time replacing Allie. I am glad I got to see her once before before she bailed in January (not exactly sure), even if she spent 10 minutes or so during that final session vaping, haha.
[QUOTE=AlexisDavis;5246543]It was with Hana, who is my ATF and the only girl I would even think to go BB with. To be clear, I have zero reason to believe Hana has anything, the pep is just me trying to eliminate the albeit low risk because at the end of the day she is extremely popular. I was just saying that the BB game is not for everyone. I've seen Hana many many times and always covered because I just like to play it safe.
No regrets though, it was amazing and I wouldn't have tried it if it was with anyone else. I imagine if Hana had something everyone would know within minutes, haha.[/QUOTE]You have a lot of willpower to stay covered with Hana! I can barely keep my clothes on the moment I walk in her apartment.
She is definitely incredible. I haven't seen her as much as you (just my guess), but I've had to find / create nitpicky things to stay away.
Doing the pep was a smart thing, considering that she is high volume and pretty much anything goes.