"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

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** also is the same day join date and one picture a tell tail sign of scam??

Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]I'd say yes and no. I'm always skeptical of it and usually avoid, but that said my last "fling" on SA was with a hot 19 year old with only one picture and a sentence bio. I shared her with a SM here and he had a good time with her too. Just go with your gut. I got her sm, felt her out a little and determined she was lazy with her SA account and didn't care whether she got into an arrangement or not. But we had a great time. So it depends.

I don't deactivate so cannot test if that is happening to me. However, I have the settings on my account such that no information about my profile is visible unless I message them first. All activity is hidden meaning they cannot see if I view them or favorite them. Search and Dashboard are hidden so I never appear in searches. Other Profile Information is hidden so I do not share my profile join date or recent login location. If some one searches for recent active, I may show up but I doubt SB's are using that function much. Since I went to a stealth profile, I almost never get unsolicited views or messages. Which is how I prefer it. In your case, I wonder if they can still view your profile because you sent them an approach message. One other thought: send a message to the site admins and just ask them.

Bam.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4691522]So, I have two profiles on SA, neither currently active. I deactivate when I don't have a paid membership, just to keep discretion. I log on from time to time to check out the talent, favoriting some to file them away for future consumption, when I don't have POTs whose numbers I am already using. SA claims when you deactivate that your profile is taken down and the pictures are archived. However, often when I log back in to check up, there will be girl's profiles listed on the Viewed Me part of during the time my profile wasn't active. How should I view this?[/QUOTE]

I currently have three SB's in rotation. Regardless, I continue to work the site for new ones. I have been seeing my most recent addition since last Fall. We see each other once or twice a week. She has a very tight schedule and lots of medical issues. She has a slight butterface but makes up for it with a very tight body and lots of enthusiasm during sex. I thought we were exclusive on her side but apparently not. I disconnected with her on Seeking when we started seeing each other. Recently, she started messaging me on the site and yesterday she favorited my profile. It seems she forgot who I was on there. Maybe she is looking to upgrade her allowance. Though I think I have been generous. If I say nothing, she may eventually figure it out in which case the situation could become more explosive. Any thoughts on how I should handle this?

Bam.

[QUOTE=BamBam;4692961]I currently have three SB's in rotation. Regardless, I continue to work the site for new ones. I have been seeing my most recent addition since last Fall. We see each other once or twice a week. She has a very tight schedule and lots of medical issues. She has a slight butterface but makes up for it with a very tight body and lots of enthusiasm during sex. I thought we were exclusive on her side but apparently not. I disconnected with her on Seeking when we started seeing each other. Recently, she started messaging me on the site and yesterday she favorited my profile. It seems she forgot who I was on there. Maybe she is looking to upgrade her allowance. Though I think I have been generous. If I say nothing, she may eventually figure it out in which case the situation could become more explosive. Any thoughts on how I should handle this?

Bam.[/QUOTE]First, thanks for your reply to my posting. I also keep my profile hidden from search at all times. All of the POTs who viewed me were ones who I at least viewed if not favored or shared my private photo (which is similar to but not actually me, so it offers nothing to them other than a message in their inbox from me). I guess I could ask, but for me the past couple of days, SA has been down. I try to log in but my browser just grinds away.

About your situation w / your baby, it's tough. If I am seeing someone and wouldn't want her to know I was active on the site (say I was looking for a baby for a road trip), I'd just block her. In the old days this was super effective, because you could always reverse the block if you wanted. That's not now possible. Yes, if you continue to message w / her on SA, she'll put two and two together. If I were you I would block her. If you later find you need to contact her and you don't have a means, other social media or her #, it may also be likely she will get a new profile and you'll see her on the site. If you block from your main profile, you can always check on her from another profile. I have two on the site, most usually inactive, and only ever on with a paid membership. Considering the hassle people can get w / memberships, I think it wise to keep something that has stood the test of time. They are unlikely to kick off those profiles.

[QUOTE=BamBam;4692941]I don't deactivate so cannot test if that is happening to me. However, I have the settings on my account such that no information about my profile is visible unless I message them first. All activity is hidden meaning they cannot see if I view them or favorite them. Search and Dashboard are hidden so I never appear in searches. Other Profile Information is hidden so I do not share my profile join date or recent login location. If some one searches for recent active, I may show up but I doubt SB's are using that function much. Since I went to a stealth profile, I almost never get unsolicited views or messages. Which is how I prefer it. In your case, I wonder if they can still view your profile because you sent them an approach message. One other thought: send a message to the site admins and just ask them.

Bam.[/QUOTE]Further explanation. You can only hide all of your activity if you have a paid membership. I don't pay all the time b / c I have enough POTs, I just am trying to stockpile them. In the old days, again, there was this trick where you could read messages without being paid, though you could not send them. You just had to hope the girl offered her #. That loophole was closed. I look periodically for girls who give their #s or social media in their profiles and contact them that way.

After years of essentially the same patter, my account got permanently deleted, no details given.

Created a new one with different info, but when I went to upgrade, I used the same CC (balance on a burner card) and got suspended again. I assume they don't track the IP / MAC address, but link to emails and credit cards.

When I have time, ill get a new vanilla card and try again.

Word is they track EVERYTHING, including pictures, payment methods, IP address and MAC address of your device whether it's a phone or home internet. And if you accidentally use ONE thing and get banned a second time, they remember everything associated with the second ban, like your new payment, photo, user I'd, etc.

Assume they track everything, so change everything or you're just chasing your tail in circles.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4694176]After years of essentially the same patter, my account got permanently deleted, no details given.



Created a new one with different info, but when I went to upgrade, I used the same CC (balance on a burner card) and got suspended again. I assume they don't track the IP / MAC address, but link to emails and credit cards.

When I have time, ill get a new vanilla card and try again.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/570b4dc0-2367-4ef1-88f4-77f74473b215[/URL] upfront told me her ppm is one grand, said thank you and good luck.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ffacd99a-046a-4420-ac28-a9305bb289c6[/URL] really hot but will talk your ear off met her once CFS, BBBJ, nice body well stacked.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4dd8c0e9-b8ef-41ee-9780-63ac1c2a3d64[/URL] been texting want 1. 5 for HJ andd 2 for BJ, no FS not going for it.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2b3c6096-a579-4797-9a1e-f13374aa1a49[/URL] this may be a repeat form other post seen once not worth 4 for CFS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b89509b4-3ff8-4b83-88ff-72ed89b59c79[/URL] been communicating seems DTF not took the plunge yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/17840443-fd7d-4039-9961-246f0d546799[/URL] coomunicating may also be ready will update once done the deed.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e712e63a-a216-4aa2-92e1-d179d40c7a8e[/URL] waste of time trying to sell online bullshit not interested!!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6fc512b-764b-415e-bcd7-bbf6326ebfe1[/URL] seems DTF setting a date near future will update.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d1669d2b-724d-42b3-925c-0373fbc3c8b7[/URL] bigger than the pics but everything covered gets into it damage 2 will come to you.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b192f835-013d-439d-93f9-a9d7fe6aae02[/URL] communicating seems DTF not set on the damage yet will update.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ee83bfa7-b33c-4d76-95ad-f3db95aa4317[/URL] did the M&G set the range was told everything covered but open to a lot even backdoor and trio will find time to take the plunge.

Thats it for now some questions for you guys about the following may be you can give me some info please PM me.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/79c1713e-9fc0-426e-9a76-1bd2a6237a14[/URL] any luck with this one slow to respond just talk no action yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/19a05ba8-fda5-46ea-b40e-b8931be6c0e1[/URL] no response yet only wishes any luck.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1af825f7-6940-4efc-ac08-58857057d195[/URL] texted but no response yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9c380784-c8a4-466e-8424-f7d535fef5f1[/URL] and [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8e48f070-ef60-4bf9-a1ca-0eb6ca0b31ba[/URL] what's the deal any luck on either one.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/eb018631-feaf-41e4-9b65-70fae82e2d67[/URL] and [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/332bf7a5-dcfb-4649-81fe-b3689305d05f[/URL] these two any luck would a tremendous prize if any of you land them.

Thank you.

Safe journey.

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[QUOTE=S2568;4694635][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/570b4dc0-2367-4ef1-88f4-77f74473b215[/URL] upfront told me her ppm is one grand, said thank you and good luck.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ffacd99a-046a-4420-ac28-a9305bb289c6[/URL] really hot but will talk your ear off met her once CFS, BBBJ, nice body well stacked.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4dd8c0e9-b8ef-41ee-9780-63ac1c2a3d64[/URL] been texting want 1. 5 for HJ andd 2 for BJ, no FS not going for it.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2b3c6096-a579-4797-9a1e-f13374aa1a49[/URL] this may be a repeat form other post seen once not worth 4 for CFS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b89509b4-3ff8-4b83-88ff-72ed89b59c79[/URL] been communicating seems DTF not took the plunge yet..[/QUOTE]Finally decided to kick the cash & join SA.

What put me over the top is my Monger Buddy in NC is absolutely killing it with legit 8-10 girls in Wilmington, Myrtle Beach & Charlotte. We have exactly the same target Baby, 20-28, spinners, very pretty with perfect heart shaped asses with a thigh gap. If all that is checked not to concerned with boobage.

Must haves on menu, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, MSOG, back door friendly is a bonus. Also at least two or more hour visits, overnights a bonus.

I have had incredible luck with out joining SA. Over the last four years have had 3 legit babies, 2 1/2 years & 3 months & 3 months respectively. Two found on my own, last one I got her digits from a fellow Daddy & convinced her she had seen me a couple of years before.

I really appreciate the leads. Promise to share my successes & failures also. Probably going to Sugar more away from Richmond for.

To stay UTR.

Just a heads up. Maddieboo18 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e712e63a-a216-4aa2-92e1-d179d40c7a8e[/URL] - is another that just wants money up front. She talks a good game "just want a wealthy older guy and I will do anything for him" blah fucking blah blah blah but then insists on cashapp or paypal bc she needs gas just to meet.

Have fun and be safe!

[QUOTE=FanRat;4695717]Just a heads up. Maddieboo18 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e712e63a-a216-4aa2-92e1-d179d40c7a8e[/URL] - is another that just wants money up front. She talks a good game "just want a wealthy older guy and I will do anything for him" blah fucking blah blah blah but then insists on cashapp or paypal bc she needs gas just to meet.

Have fun and be safe![/QUOTE]These scammers are everywhere like cockroaches.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4695455]Finally decided to kick the cash & join SA.

What put me over the top is my Monger Buddy in NC is absolutely killing it with legit 8-10 girls in Wilmington, Myrtle Beach & Charlotte. We have exactly the same target Baby, 20-28, spinners, very pretty with perfect heart shaped asses with a thigh gap. If all that is checked not to concerned with boobage.

Must haves on menu, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, MSOG, back door friendly is a bonus. Also at least two or more hour visits, overnights a bonus.

I have had incredible luck with out joining SA. Over the last four years have had 3 legit babies, 2 1/2 years & 3 months & 3 months respectively. Two found on my own, last one I got her digits from a fellow Daddy & convinced her she had seen me a couple of years before.

I really appreciate the leads. Promise to share my successes & failures also. Probably going to Sugar more away from Richmond for.

To stay UTR.[/QUOTE]What was the damage for aphroditevenus?

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4695821]What was the damage for aphroditevenus?[/QUOTE]I gave her 400.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4694176]After years of essentially the same patter, my account got permanently deleted, no details given.

Created a new one with different info, but when I went to upgrade, I used the same CC (balance on a burner card) and got suspended again. I assume they don't track the IP / MAC address, but link to emails and credit cards.

When I have time, ill get a new vanilla card and try again.[/QUOTE]This is why I never talk about an exact price on the site. They have software to detect talk of PPM.

I try to save all talk about money until the meet and greet. I like to see what they look like before I figure out how much I'm going to give them anyway.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4695455]Finally decided to kick the cash & join SA.

What put me over the top is my Monger Buddy in NC is absolutely killing it with legit 8-10 girls in Wilmington, Myrtle Beach & Charlotte. We have exactly the same target Baby, 20-28, spinners, very pretty with perfect heart shaped asses with a thigh gap. If all that is checked not to concerned with boobage.

Must haves on menu, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, MSOG, back door friendly is a bonus. Also at least two or more hour visits, overnights a bonus.

I have had incredible luck with out joining SA. Over the last four years have had 3 legit babies, 2 1/2 years & 3 months & 3 months respectively. Two found on my own, last one I got her digits from a fellow Daddy & convinced her she had seen me a couple of years before.

I really appreciate the leads. Promise to share my successes & failures also. Probably going to Sugar more away from Richmond for.

To stay UTR.[/QUOTE]Wilmington and Myrtle Beach escort services will send out girls for $100 and sex is always included. There's loads of cheap girls selling sex in that area. At that price, the girls have to sleep with an extremely large number of men to actually get their $1500/ mo rent paid, so they use SA as a way to supplement their income. Supply and demand works in our favor down south. They're fishing for as many travelling golfers as they can find.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4692441]That's funny! Like a rinser would care what you put in your profile. It's like when I read SB profiles that say "no scammers".

Saying "no rinsers" or "no scammers" in a profile will do nothing to chase them away, but will tell everyone you have been rinser or scammed, are more likely to be vulnerable to it again and have a chip on your shoulder (which is also clear from your lost).

As much as I've had to deal with rinsers, scammers, gps, platonic only, online only B. S. , I've also spent quality time with some genuine beauties! This is a game not for the faint of heart.

I do agree with posting about bad experiences here. If we all did this, we could chase many of the pretenders away.[/QUOTE]Point taken. Good advice. Guess I just needed to rant a bit.

[QUOTE=Jacko52;4696878]I gave her 400.[/QUOTE]Was that her asking? Or were you generous? Did you try to negotiate?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Jacko52;4696878]I gave her 400.[/QUOTE]That is more than what I paid she got either 250 or 300.

Has anyone had contact with ogbaddie? We had been seeing each other damn near weekly for a while and then yesterday she cancelled and today I got a kinda disturbing text supposedly from her parents.

PM me if you know anything.

Thanks and be safe!

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4694176]After years of essentially the same patter, my account got permanently deleted, no details given.

Created a new one with different info, but when I went to upgrade, I used the same CC (balance on a burner card) and got suspended again. I assume they don't track the IP / MAC address, but link to emails and credit cards.

When I have time, ill get a new vanilla card and try again.[/QUOTE]This happened to me also. Going to try to create a new account today. They definitely track the credit cards, am worried that they started on IPs and / or MAC addresses b / c I tried to log in to an old account just now that I had deactivated and it says that account is suspended also. They must have linked them somehow, and it wasn't by payment.

Let me know how you work around. The MAC address is an easy fix (program called T-Mac) but the IP is a much bigger issue for me as they Epic and Tor are no longer working for me.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4699991]This happened to me also. Going to try to create a new account today. They definitely track the credit cards, am worried that they started on IPs and / or MAC addresses b / c I tried to log in to an old account just now that I had deactivated and it says that account is suspended also. They must have linked them somehow, and it wasn't by payment.

Let me know how you work around. The MAC address is an easy fix (program called T-Mac) but the IP is a much bigger issue for me as they Epic and Tor are no longer working for me.[/QUOTE]Only the IP address for which you can use a VPN to hide your real identity online. Now if you are using the SA app on your phone then they may be able to get your phone's MAC address but I am not sure in which case use SA only with a browser.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4699991]This happened to me also. Going to try to create a new account today. They definitely track the credit cards, am worried that they started on IPs and / or MAC addresses b / c I tried to log in to an old account just now that I had deactivated and it says that account is suspended also. They must have linked them somehow, and it wasn't by payment.

Let me know how you work around. The MAC address is an easy fix (program called T-Mac) but the IP is a much bigger issue for me as they Epic and Tor are no longer working for me.[/QUOTE]SA needs to move offshore like the other sites so they can lighten up. I have thought about renewing but it seems like they are looking over your shoulder for any excuse to remove you. What is everyone doing to get kick off the site?

[QUOTE=MulchMan;4700594]What is everyone doing to get kick off the site?[/QUOTE]I'm betting they have some sort of bot that searches for "ppm" and ".

Its also possible someone you pissed off complained. Have had a few object to my messages taht I'm looking for "adult aerobic activieis" and we discuss allowance and she says "I'm not a prostitute" or something like that. But I m betting its more the bots.

Of course, you can't control when an SB puts PPM in a message. I don't think the women are getting banned like the men are.

This one wants 600 per meet, any one tried her out. Told her all the best, really hot and petite.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/078cf968-3361-46f5-b9f3-e1605e8439f8[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2ee3dce2-6426-4637-8018-d9560bf847a8[/URL] -- looks better than average, claims to be a total freak. $500 ppm, no fisting or bodily functions, but otherwise have at her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9f47f960-8dd0-410f-b4eb-07461c8def4b[/URL] - stripper lives in W'boro. Says other dancers at her club clued her in to Sugar world. I think I might know who, which could mean GPS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3cddc8e4-110a-47cc-8079-f5c1621ff8ed[/URL] chest is TGTBT!

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4701663][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2ee3dce2-6426-4637-8018-d9560bf847a8[/URL] -- looks better than average, claims to be a total freak. $500 ppm, no fisting or bodily functions, but otherwise have at her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9f47f960-8dd0-410f-b4eb-07461c8def4b[/URL] - stripper lives in W'boro. Says other dancers at her club clued her in to Sugar world. I think I might know who, which could mean GPS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3cddc8e4-110a-47cc-8079-f5c1621ff8ed[/URL] chest is TGTBT![/QUOTE]Did you meet the 1st one or just message? We have been messaging but haven't met and don't think I'm going to part with $500.

I was supposed to meet the 2nd 1 for a lunch M&G today. Texted her this morning with a place and said 12/12:15 and she said OK. Then she texted and asked for 12:30 - no problem. I get there and text that I was there. After about 10 minutes she texts back that she's 5 minutes away. 20 minutes later I text and she says sorry, she got pulled over but she would be there in 10. Another 20 minutes I text her that I need to get back to the office and she texts sorry and that was the last I heard from her.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4701663][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2ee3dce2-6426-4637-8018-d9560bf847a8[/URL] -- looks better than average, claims to be a total freak. $500 ppm, no fisting or bodily functions, but otherwise have at her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9f47f960-8dd0-410f-b4eb-07461c8def4b[/URL] - stripper lives in W'boro. Says other dancers at her club clued her in to Sugar world. I think I might know who, which could mean GPS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3cddc8e4-110a-47cc-8079-f5c1621ff8ed[/URL] chest is TGTBT![/QUOTE]The first one quoted me 400 awhile back. Guess she lost $$ on the market.

Got this MILF GPS: [URL]https://sugarbook.com/member/profile/478458[/URL].

Asking for 500 for a dinner to discuss about arrangement. I wish her good luck.

[QUOTE=S2568;4701502]This one wants 600 per meet, any one tried her out. Told her all the best, really hot and petite.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/078cf968-3361-46f5-b9f3-e1605e8439f8[/URL][/QUOTE]I started an arrangement with her. She said she's not looking to get used one time. She's looking for a longterm sugardaddy.

[QUOTE=MulchMan;4700594]SA needs to move offshore like the other sites so they can lighten up. I have thought about renewing but it seems like they are looking over your shoulder for any excuse to remove you. What is everyone doing to get kick off the site?[/QUOTE]Not only would they need to move the servers / site offshore, but they would also need to move the ownership offshore. The owners would have to never want to visit the US and live in a country with no extradition. That is what I believe happened with this sites move to the Netherlands.

[QUOTE=S2568;4701502]This one wants 600 per meet, any one tried her out. Told her all the best, really hot and petite.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/078cf968-3361-46f5-b9f3-e1605e8439f8[/URL][/QUOTE]Not hot enough to think she could get 600. At all!

Well, it's happened. They're closing down the colleges and I have already talked to 3 sugarbabies who no longer kiss on the mouth due to the Coronavirus. Pretty soon there're not going to let us touch them without a hazmat suit on!

[QUOTE=TheArcher;4702547]Well, it's happened. They're closing down the colleges and I have already talked to 3 sugarbabies who no longer kiss on the mouth due to the Coronavirus. Pretty soon there're not going to let us touch them without a hazmat suit on![/QUOTE]I've seen the opposite. They now have open availability because they no longer have to attend class.

[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;4702553]I've seen the opposite. They now have open availability because they no longer have to attend class.[/QUOTE]Mine has to go back on Sunday to work her part time job. Though she expects they will cut her hours as a waitress with less people dining out.

[QUOTE=SDDude1;4702536]I started an arrangement with her. She said she's not looking to get used one time. She's looking for a longterm sugardaddy.[/QUOTE]Asking 600 is a pretty good way to get used one time, not many of us are looking / able to spend like that each visit for a regular ongoing thing.

Situation: contacted a girl on SA a long time ago, 1 yr. M&G, I thought we got along great. Followup by text never led to much in the way of response. Haven't seen her on the site for a while, but she shows up again today. I have her # so I could text her directly, or I could contact her on SA. I have two profiles, she might not even know it is the same one (but she isn't dumb, she'd likely figure out pretty quickly who it is). Is this worth my trouble? Obviously, I thought she'd be worth a FC at some reasonable sugar.

That my membership on SA expired yesterday and lo and behold I get a message from a SB that hadn't messaged me for 17 days since our last convo but now she decides too. Hmmm. Not falling for it as I am sure the message will say something pretty generic.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4702541]Not only would they need to move the servers / site offshore, but they would also need to move the ownership offshore. The owners would have to never want to visit the US and live in a country with no extradition. That is what I believe happened with this sites move to the Netherlands.[/QUOTE]Good memory. I believe the owner of Craig's List was arrested awhile back when he returned to the states. Anyway, I don't want to sign up for a membership only to have my account deactivated a week later. I doubt you would get a refund for the unused portion of your membership. At this point I will stay with the young ones with a candy issue and ride it out until they go on vacation. I had a great time in the bowl but damn it was a lot of work.

Send her a text that has nothing to do with Sugar. When she replies respond "oh my gosh, I thought I was sending that to. Wow, it's been a long time. How are you?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4703173]Situation: contacted a girl on SA a long time ago, 1 yr. M&G, I thought we got along great. Followup by text never led to much in the way of response. Haven't seen her on the site for a while, but she shows up again today. I have her # so I could text her directly, or I could contact her on SA. I have two profiles, she might not even know it is the same one (but she isn't dumb, she'd likely figure out pretty quickly who it is). Is this worth my trouble? Obviously, I thought she'd be worth a FC at some reasonable sugar.[/QUOTE]