Agency Discussion and Reviews

[QUOTE=Kpop1;7075855]Anyone else frustrated with these Japanese / Chinese agencies. Pics are all AI generated and look less and less like them. You can tell it's them but at least 5 points higher in looks with technologies these days. Miss the good old photo shop days. I have to think that half of the reviews on this site are fake. Sure, I could do a better job researching on this site as well as TER but when I'm a time crunch and on the road, I read a couple reviews and take the gamble. Recently all damn misses. I don't write bad reviews because the last time I did, I got banned from an agency. I'd guess it's not hard for them to figure out whose writing reviews. I'm going back to sticking with Korean agencies.[/QUOTE]
This is a serious problem, I and others have quit the hobby for periods of time over a series of bad experiences. Seeing girls without good research had too many ups and downs. And it is hard to research.

I've long ignored photos unless a reviewer I know says they're real. Reviews are the only solution. When someone posts a review, click their name and see if they've reviewed another girl you've seen and decide how accurate they are. I know two other reviewers who review 10-20 girls a month, they go out of their way to do this because they believe that reviews are the only way to increase the average girl in town. I can't do that many, so what I do is personally read and verify reviews by recognizing the reviewer or matching it with verified reviews. This is the result:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7075664&viewfull=1#post7075664[/URL]

There are several short lists of recommend girls for HYA (hot young Asian) GFE (no bb). Nothing negative in the post, for example I say Sophia is a 40s milf queen that lots of guys love. I just don't mention the other girls below her tier. No one could accuse me or the other main reviewers of being negative. If I don't like a girl, I will do it by PM or tell the booker.

I can vouch for the descriptions of girls as 90% accurate because I saw the girl, or someone I know well described her. I know how accurate their descriptions are because I had a 100% success rate with their recs, the girls were literally better because they don't hype them. Specifically, I was recommended Baby Suger (perfect 10 looks), Baby Evian (arguably a 9), Baby Lizza (a 9) by ResilientJohn. I don't just give out 10's, she is the only 10 out of 90 girls I've rated. When I say 90% accurate, I mean if I say Jira is young and cute 8 out of 8 reviewers after me agreed and I even list them. Maybe 1 guy some day won't like her, that's realistic. The point is reviews and trusted reviewers matter. I myself even gave out a 2024 awards list, highlighting which girls were still working:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7075354&viewfull=1#post7075354[/URL]

It needs to be said that since reviewers know my reviews, it's self-fulfilling that the guys who saw Jira on my description liked her. She is super petite, early 20s, small tits. She is arguably cuter than her photos which are real except photoshop to make her boobs bigger. So I warn prominently in every review she is A/B cup - warnings like these are really important. Without that warning, it would not have been 8 out of 8 happy reviewers, some guy would have complained she looks too young and has no tits:
[URl]https://sdasiangirls.com/index.php/approved-studies/instructors/ms-jira/[/URL]

About being banned for negative reviews, that's the other problem. I don't know this best, but see my thank you to RocketManP: about it.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7073063&viewfull=1#post7073063[/URL]

A year ago, SD's biggest agencies banned users for negative reviews and even said so after appointments, specifically TER. RocketManP investigated this and sent proof to TER admins. TER admins do not fuck around. They deleted 10 years of this agencies reviews, every girl. To this day you cannot find them anymore except as blank stubs:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6705377#post6705377[/URL]

He even put up a permanent link and reminder of the proof so they could not deny it. You can still see it today:
[URL]https://archive.ph/VfFlw[/URL]

3 months and an apology later, they were allowed to work on TER again. I wrote one of their very first reviews for an ATF. It took 5 tries because TER admins still had multiple bans on urls and other keywords I used and had not removed them all even though they gave the green light.

I don't know the solution for you guys East Coast. What I and 3 other power posters do is take precautious in reviews. Mine is I wait a randomly 1-3 days whether the review is good or bad. Theirs is they review so many girls and make an 'approved list' of girls they liked. I have used their list and it is 100% accurate. No need to make a single negative review. I myself don't like to write negative reviews even though I know I should. This is one discussion on on not writing negative reviews at all and just focusing on the positive:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7003427&viewfull=1#post7003427[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7004226&viewfull=1#post7004226[/URL]

It is controversial, everyone says negative reviews need to happen. I agree, I call those people heroes. But it's just hard to do because I always wonder if I'm being too hard on a girl if we just didn't vibe. The logic is sound that I should review her anyways, I'm just saying personally I struggle to do that. So I put my energy into highlighting every good girl I know. Hope these ideas help.

[QUOTE=Rizzler808;7073822]Service: This is where Julia earned her stripes. She certainly is not a newbie and I would say her BBBJ is 8/10 but her sex game is a 9. As a spinner, I don't expect her to have her nose to the stomach as if it were, she'd have a few inches into her actual throat. That said, she was extremely persistent to blow me as long as I needed to. Her sex is a 9 because I genuinely believe I don't think she even knows how wet she gets. It was a combination of her squirting too but literally, after eating her out, it was like the fire hydrant was turned on.

Fucking was going as per usual but while she was riding, she started grinding and I could feel her pussy tightening and boom, my stomach was caked in pussy juice. Absolutely crazy and I haven't had a kgirl squirt like that in while. I went into the black after that and fucked her super hard until I eventually nutted too. Skilled goddess for sure and I will be seeing her real soon just to see how many times I can make her do this....[/QUOTE]Great Review. I am headed to NoVa this weekend and am doing some research. I am so intrigued by the squirting that this may be the way I go. You mentioned $350 for the hour, did this include MSOG, or was it one and done?

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7075979]It is controversial, everyone says negative reviews need to happen. I agree, I call those people heroes. But it's just hard to do because I always wonder if I'm being too hard on a girl if we just didn't vibe. The logic is sound that I should review her anyways, I'm just saying personally I struggle to do that. So I put my energy into highlighting every good girl I know. Hope these ideas help.[/QUOTE]This approved list could work for kgirls here but not jgirls. Kgirls are a lot more popular here, staying longer. The average jgirl lasts a week or less and the jgirls we get are mainly tier 2 or 3 left overs from NY, once in a while, tier 1 but not the norm. But I'll try PM here if I don't like a girl or just say I didn't add any new approved girls to the list (if my reviews are worth anything here, don't really know).

[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7076390]This approved list could work for kgirls here but not jgirls. Kgirls are a lot more popular here, staying longer. The average jgirl lasts a week or less and the jgirls we get are mainly tier 2 or 3 left overs from NY, once in a while, tier 1 but not the norm. But I'll try PM here if I don't like a girl or just say I didn't add any new approved girls to the list (if my reviews are worth anything here, don't really know).[/QUOTE]I feel like pound for pound, the top DC girls are also the top NYC girls, there's not a difference. Elsa and Etsuko being the recent examples, when they went to NYC I took a look at the selection and they still shit on the competition in their shops. Then going back a few months, there was Noah and one other girl here at the same time, both of them were top and in NYC also top.

I think it's more that there's a greater quantity of Elsa-type girls in NYC, not that Elsa types exist up there and not down in DC.

[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7076390]This approved list could work for kgirls here but not jgirls. Kgirls are a lot more popular here, staying longer. The average jgirl lasts a week or less and the jgirls we get are mainly tier 2 or 3 left overs from NY, once in a while, tier 1 but not the norm. But I'll try PM here if I don't like a girl or just say I didn't add any new approved girls to the list (if my reviews are worth anything here, don't really know).[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right on that. Jgirls and kgirls are different due to their tours. It's one reason kgirls have to be professional and mask on for service. But, reviews matter and arguably moreso in this case. "Not for me" is the most negative I go for, I'm soft.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7076429]I think it's more that there's a greater quantity of Elsa-type girls in NYC, not that Elsa types exist up athere and not down in DC.[/QUOTE]There is a perfect solution for that, but you won't like it. I will tell you about it next Summer after confirming it works.

[QUOTE=CommandF;7067175]Probably the most disappointing and infuriating experience in some time. I ponied up for a session with Mana but from start to finish what a shit show.

Their website says PSE and I confirmed with the booker that PSE was the pricing listed. There was no mention of upcharge or what have you. So I brought the donation for 45 plus a little extra if I wanted to tip but when I get there, the booker sends me to a completely different door and a staunch white woman with a crying baby opens the door and asks me what I want. I told her it's the wrong door and I ask the booker, what's going on. Finally get to the right door and then boom, Mana says BBFS is $200 extra. WTF. Now I'm confused on if Mana is trying to swindle me or the booker is just bad at their job. Turns out it's the latter and I had to leave poor Mana feeling like shit because I left and the booker texts me mid drive back that I can Zelle them.

Are y'all really giving your Zelle information to a booker whose bank account you're now linked to??

Afterward they said offered to give me a discount to still write a positive review on Mana. Which now makes me think every glowing review of JB is BS.

Let me be clear, Mana looked fantastic and I would've gladly seen her. But now knowing that JB takes Zelle's, is making noise in their hotel to disturb other guests and attract attention. It's literally the opposite of being discreet. Avoid if these red flags resonate with you as well.

Thanks for entertaining my rambling of this inconvenient ordeal.[/QUOTE]I'm curious as to what did JB value your honesty / integrity and responsibility to other brothers, in greenbacks.

Was it at least more than 40 bucks? I bet it was below a hunnid.

It's so disgusting when agencies or any sellers do this shit. Oh here is a bribe for you to lie to others that your experience was good.

Makes me so sick. If it was up to me I'd air them out every place I could. And if they're on ter I'd tell ter too. They usually don't like that shit.

Bribing mongers with pussy and / or money to write false reviews is pretty vile and should be heavily criticized. These agencies view mongers as dirty atm machines.

[QUOTE=Kpop1;7075855]Anyone else frustrated with these Japanese / Chinese agencies. Pics are all AI generated and look less and less like them. You can tell it's them but at least 5 points higher in looks with technologies these days. Miss the good old photo shop days. I have to think that half of the reviews on this site are fake. Sure, I could do a better job researching on this site as well as TER but when I'm a time crunch and on the road, I read a couple reviews and take the gamble. Recently all damn misses. I don't write bad reviews because the last time I did, I got banned from an agency. I'd guess it's not hard for them to figure out whose writing reviews. I'm going back to sticking with Korean agencies.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RyeBread;7075913]I know exactly what you mean. The main Chinese / Japanese ones are bad with the pics. I recently saw one from an elf in Tysons and even read some reviews from folks here that seemed promising, when I got there I was severely disappointed. It's my fault too because I saw someone from there months ago and told myself not to trust this agency again but I had forgotten. The girl is nowhere near as young as stated and the pics look nothing like her. The one time this place delivered was with a young girl with blonde hair who was here not too long ago. Besides her, I will mostly be visiting the Korean agencies which aren't perfect either but they're nowhere near as bad.[/QUOTE]How are k orgs any better? K girls are notorious for using either heavily edited pictures that are 5-10 years old, or fake pics altogether. Often times they aren't even the same skin tone as the pics they use. Some j girls will use fake pictures or P.S. To a degree, but it's nowhere near as often as k girls. At least with j girls you are getting a more accurate representation of what they look like compared to k girls, where it's a game of which pic most closely resembles what she looks like in the dark if you squint hard enough. I don't support the use of fake pictures from either group, but it's far more common from k girls. Same goes for age, most k girls are 30's-40's, and yet every agency will list them as 22-25. I've seen a couple j girls who are much older than advertised, but it's rare.

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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7075979]I don't know the solution for you guys East Coast. What I and 3 other power posters do is take precautious in reviews. Mine is I wait a randomly 1-3 days whether the review is good or bad. Theirs is they review so many girls and make an 'approved list' of girls they liked. I have used their list and it is 100% accurate. No need to make a single negative review. I myself don't like to write negative reviews even though I know I should. This is one discussion on on not writing negative reviews at all and just focusing on the positive:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7003427&viewfull=1#post7003427[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7004226&viewfull=1#post7004226[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I might be alone on this, but I do not think shill / fake reviews are as bad as people make them out to be. Yeah some reviews are blatantly fake. Like when a k girl is reported to have "soft MM's" when they feel like fucking rocks, and unless you're cupping them with the softest touch humanly possible, there's no way you don't feel how hard those things are. But overall, I think it's important to remember that everyone has different tastes and expectations on what they're looking for. There was j girl here a few months ago that had a great review from an active member here. Another member saw her and had the complete opposite experience. It doesn't mean the first guy is a shill, it just means that she met his expectations, but not the second guy. A guy with a shrimp dick could report that he took a girl to pound town, and then another guy with a bigger dick could get nothing but blocking and complaints. One of the hottest girls I've seen in this hobby has a 7. 85 appearance score on TER. She's a solid 9, but only 2 other guys agreed with me. Another example, I saw a j girl on the recommendation of another member here. I had a great time and thought she was pretty. Her latest review said she wasn't pretty and looked 30-40 years old. Different tastes, different expectations.

Unless you're a Chad who just hits it off with every girl he meets, every session has the potential to be YMMV. There's so many examples of this, even with super popular girls, and even between active guys on this forum.

A girl that's hot to one guy or even a lot of guys might not be hot to another. The same goes for service. Good service to one guy might be below average to another. I'm in the camp of age / looks service. If I wanted to fuck average looking or old women, I'd just go to an AMP for half the cost and drive time. On top of being young / hot, as long as she has a good attitude and willingness to please, I'm happy. In my TER reviews I do try to give details from start to finish about my session, but the details are more for the people reading. I can appreciate good service when I see it, but that's just not my priority when going into sessions.

I don't see k girls unless I'm in the mood for high level service that day. Most k girls are not that attractive, and they are never young. The ones I do find attractive, it's more of I find them attractive compared to other k girls that come through the area rather than overall. Even the ones reported to be young on this forum never are. But it just goes back to the expectations. A girl will be reported to be mid 20's, I walk through the door and she has crows feet. I've never met a k girl in the same age group as me. My expectations of a "mid-late 20's" seems to be different from the average guy who's probably in his 40's or 50's.

Everyone is going to take losses in this hobby. I've taken 3 of them as I mentioned earlier. One of them I saw based on recommendations on this forum from reputable guys. Had a completely different opinion than what was said here. On TER I was the only guy to give her a 6 in both looks and service and even that was being very generous. I just chalked it up to being my turn to getting a dud. Nobody wants a disappointing session, especially at these prices, but that's just apart of the game. Girls like Etsuko who are young, super hot, great attitude, smiles, and great service who can appeal to both the looks and service camps are unicorns.

Tall, Slender I've is starting at Kstar from tomorrow 10/25.

[URL]https://kstarnova.com/models/ive/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RocketManP;7076473]I'm curious as to what did JB value your honesty / integrity and responsibility to other brothers, in greenbacks.

Was it at least more than 40 bucks? I bet it was below a hunnid.

It's so disgusting when agencies or any sellers do this shit. Oh here is a bribe for you to lie to others that your experience was good.

Makes me so sick. If it was up to me I'd air them out every place I could. And if they're on ter I'd tell ter too. They usually don't like that shit.

Bribing mongers with pussy and / or money to write false reviews is pretty vile and should be heavily criticized. These agencies view mongers as dirty atm machines.[/QUOTE]Not even $40. It was a $20 discount for my next vision since the one I tried to have went to shit.

To be fair, any takes on Mana being busty and pretty, I can agree with wholeheartedly. I didn't se her naked but she was a looker.

What I didn't like was the terrible service in getting me to the door and thinking back, I think I let some mongers gaslight me into thinking I didn't ask the right questions. I asked how much PSE / no condom service was and they said $300 for the 45 minutes. Only after that it was Mana who informed me of the upcharge.

If that wasn't annoying, the lack of apology for the mishap would've been sufficient. That's when they asked me if I could leave Mana a nice review and a promise to shave $20 off the next visit.

Tbh, I would've left Mana a comprehensive review either way if I had seen her for the time I wanted to spend. It just seems stupid and you're right. Just from that interaction, I'm doubting about how "great" Joyful bay is.

I deleted the texts in anger so I wouldn't be tempted to book them again but I might entertain the thought if I can provide proof that they are indeed buying their raving reviews.

FYI.

New Summer at DMVG starting today.

[URL]https://www.dmvgirlsva.com/copy-of-model-page-julia[/URL]

[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=398404[/URL]

When we were constantly complaining about AsianELF's high prices, they brought another 320 girl Gigi, LOL. Their new lineup looks quite interesting:

450 Yoga Instructor Lisa.

360 Faye.

320 Gigi and Emma.

[QUOTE=OneNaughtyBear;7076822]How are k orgs any better? K girls are notorious for using either heavily edited pictures that are 5-10 years old, or fake pics altogether. Often times they aren't even the same skin tone as the pics they use. Some j girls will use fake pictures or P.S. To a degree, but it's nowhere near as often as k girls. At least with j girls you are getting a more accurate representation of what they look like compared to k girls, where it's a game of which pic most closely resembles what she looks like in the dark if you squint hard enough. I don't support the use of fake pictures from either group, but it's far more common from k girls. Same goes for age, most k girls are 30's-40's, and yet every agency will list them as 22-25. I've seen a couple j girls who are much older than advertised, but it's rare.

I might be alone on this, but I do not think shill / fake reviews are as bad as people make them out to be. Yeah some reviews are blatantly fake. Like when a k girl is reported to have "soft MM's" when they feel like fucking rocks, and unless you're cupping them with the softest touch humanly possible, there's no way you don't feel how hard those things are. But overall, I think it's important to remember that everyone has different tastes and expectations on what they're looking for. There was j girl here a few months ago that had a great review from an active member here. Another member saw her and had the complete opposite experience. It doesn't mean the first guy is a shill, it just means that she met his expectations, but not the second guy. A guy with a shrimp dick could report that he took a girl to pound town, and then another guy with a bigger dick could get nothing but blocking and complaints. One of the hottest girls I've seen in this hobby has a 7. 85 appearance score on TER. She's a solid 9, but only 2 other guys agreed with me. Another example, I saw a j girl on the recommendation of another member here. I had a great time and thought she was pretty. Her latest review said she wasn't pretty and looked 30-40 years old. Different tastes, different expectations.

Unless you're a Chad who just hits it off with every girl he meets, every session has the potential to be YMMV. There's so many examples of this, even with super popular girls, and even between active guys on this forum.

A girl that's hot to one guy or even a lot of guys might not be hot to another. The same goes for service. Good service to one guy might be below average to another. I'm in the camp of age / looks service. If I wanted to fuck average looking or old women, I'd just go to an AMP for half the cost and drive time. On top of being young / hot, as long as she has a good attitude and willingness to please, I'm happy. In my TER reviews I do try to give details from start to finish about my session, but the details are more for the people reading. I can appreciate good service when I see it, but that's just not my priority when going into sessions.

I don't see k girls unless I'm in the mood for high level service that day. Most k girls are not that attractive, and they are never young. The ones I do find attractive, it's more of I find them attractive compared to other k girls that come through the area rather than overall. Even the ones reported to be young on this forum never are. But it just goes back to the expectations. A girl will be reported to be mid 20's, I walk through the door and she has crows feet. I've never met a k girl in the same age group as me. My expectations of a "mid-late 20's" seems to be different from the average guy who's probably in his 40's or 50's.

Everyone is going to take losses in this hobby. I've taken 3 of them as I mentioned earlier. One of them I saw based on recommendations on this forum from reputable guys. Had a completely different opinion than what was said here. On TER I was the only guy to give her a 6 in both looks and service and even that was being very generous. I just chalked it up to being my turn to getting a dud. Nobody wants a disappointing session, especially at these prices, but that's just apart of the game. Girls like Etsuko who are young, super hot, great attitude, smiles, and great service who can appeal to both the looks and service camps are unicorns.[/QUOTE]Bro, I agree with you. J-girls are known for posting accurate photos, while K-girls often don't. Although their service is usually great, they lack freshness, and their age can be an issue. I don't mean to criticize anyone, but the most outrageous thing I've encountered was when I booked a K-girl and, upon entering, thought I had the wrong room because I was greeted by someone who looked really old. I was still under 30 at the time, and seeing a K-girl who was around 45 years old. Yet, her ad photos made her look like she was 25.

Moreover, the experience and reviews are really a case of YMMV. As I mentioned in my earlier posts, everyone wants something different from a girl, and these girls are not machines. They may react and provide different services based on the client's age, appearance, or even ethnicity, so you can't generalize in many situations. That's also why there are so many girls available in the market for you to choose from. I rarely give low scores to a girl. First, because I have a certain level of expectation, and second, I make sure to take care of my hygiene and appearance. I also learn Japanese and Korean to improve communication. I don't want to argue too much with everyone, but I believe understanding the pros and cons of K-girls, J-girls, and C-girls, and knowing what you're looking for, can help you get the most out of your money.

I've been to several so-called Japanese shops in NYC through NOVA and only met ugly Chinese girls. These are nothing but fucking trickery groups. Also one of their girls told me a middle-aged white real-estate guy is running these groups with Chinese mamasans as his puppets. Be very careful!

[QUOTE=FunctionK;7077435]Bro, I agree with you. J-girls are known for posting accurate photos, while K-girls often don't. Although their service is usually great, they lack freshness, and their age can be an issue. I don't mean to criticize anyone, but the most outrageous thing I've encountered was when I booked a K-girl and, upon entering, thought I had the wrong room because I was greeted by someone who looked really old. I was still under 30 at the time, and seeing a K-girl who was around 45 years old. Yet, her ad photos made her look like she was 25.

Moreover, the experience and reviews are really a case of YMMV. As I mentioned in my earlier posts, everyone wants something different from a girl, and these girls are not machines. They may react and provide different services based on the client's age, appearance, or even ethnicity, so you can't generalize in many situations. That's also why there are so many girls available in the market for you to choose from. I rarely give low scores to a girl. First, because I have a certain level of expectation, and second, I make sure to take care of my hygiene and appearance. I also learn Japanese and Korean to improve communication. I don't want to argue too much with everyone, but I believe understanding the pros and cons of K-girls, J-girls, and C-girls, and knowing what you're looking for, can help you get the most out of your money.[/QUOTE]

Did anyone see this girl? Real Pics? Young C girl? Real G cups?

New girl Lisa at AE looks like she's mixed. I cannot tell if the glam shots and the yoga shots are the same girl.