Thanks for the tip on Healing Spa. About to head there in a few hours so if I do not get He He I am walking. I will give an update afterwards.
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Thanks for the tip on Healing Spa. About to head there in a few hours so if I do not get He He I am walking. I will give an update afterwards.
[QUOTE=ChasMale;3199008]It is hard to believe that she is 100% legit when she throws the girls out with a dress like that?
[URL]https://charleston.craigslist.org/thp/5929275075.html[/URL]
Any recent information would be great. Even PM me if you want.[/QUOTE]Weird girl, too much oil, self serve. However if you talk her into showing her tits they are amazing. Saw her a year ago.
[QUOTE=BamBam7272;3201573]Thanks for the tip on Healing Spa. About to head there in a few hours so if I do not get He He I am walking. I will give an update afterwards.[/QUOTE]I do believe it is Ci Ci. I asked twice to verify. I agree she is the best of the two there at the time. Nice ts and good teasing before the flip. The massage was actually pretty good. Nice touch on the flip. Otc and some utc allowed. I will repeat.
Ok, I knowwwww some of you have not been reporting on a certain woman named jessica from zen. LOL, be honest! Have any of you been to her double ds palace yet?. As of Monday she is away for 2 weeks. When she comes back, holyyyyyy crap! She is by far better then may. Lets just say she owns 2 shops in new york. I feel some of have been keeping her a secret. Have you? Be honest and let me know.
[QUOTE=Joe3408;3204851]Ok, I knowwwww some of you have not been reporting on a certain woman named jessica from zen. LOL, be honest! Have any of you been to her double ds palace yet?. As of Monday she is away for 2 weeks. When she comes back, holyyyyyy crap! She is by far better then may. Lets just say she owns 2 shops in new york. I feel some of have been keeping her a secret. Have you? Be honest and let me know.[/QUOTE]More than the usual happy ending?
[QUOTE=DoctorWhat;3205284]More than the usual happy ending?[/QUOTE]I tried to have yall read between the lines. . but during massage she went toppless. I had no idea. . I was floored when she asked if it was alright. . they were double ds and she used them to finish the massage. . best experience there ever. . I camt be the only one. . that why I was asking if any of you got jessica and was holding out.
[QUOTE=Joe3408;3205504]I tried to have yall read between the lines. . but during massage she went toppless. I had no idea. . I was floored when she asked if it was alright. . they were double ds and she used them to finish the massage. . best experience there ever. . I camt be the only one. . that why I was asking if any of you got jessica and was holding out.[/QUOTE]Note to self. Get to ZEN early in 2017 to see Jessica!
Thanks Joe!!
[QUOTE=Voyrinsc;3206062]Note to self. Get to ZEN early in 2017 to see Jessica!
Thanks Joe!![/QUOTE]Thanks Joe-.
Voyrinsc -it' a race to see who gets there first-.
Hello all, fellow monger here visiting from the upstate this weekend. Was wondering if Zen is a FS establishment or just a HJ type place? I'm looking for a spinner type with FS to be specific lol.
Thanks for any info and message me if you don't won't to post here.
[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/n-e-w-management-special-no-1-massage-for-you/10584355[/URL]
[QUOTE=SCWildRide;3208450]Hello all, fellow monger here visiting from the upstate this weekend. Was wondering if Zen is a FS establishment or just a HJ type place? I'm looking for a spinner type with FS to be specific lol.
Thanks for any info and message me if you don't won't to post here.
[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/n-e-w-management-special-no-1-massage-for-you/10584355[/URL][/QUOTE]Hi. Welcome to the chas forum. Unfortunately, you won't find what you're looking for at any of the AMPs around here. Strictly standard endings.
Made my way to Han Spa after the couple reports of their change in attitude towards what happens on the flip. I really think YMMV with this place. They are adjacent to a docs office and are not your usual AMP. Its a legitimate setup with a desk and a waiting room and several rooms branching off of that. Definitely feels like a medical setup.
With that said, . 7 got me the best massage I've ever had. She was ok to look at: tall, thin, late 30's with small assets. Ts was very underwhelming but when we got to the massage, She was very very good. I was sure it was going to be strictly legit but to my surprise, the flip came and she made the good ol up and down hand motion and said "you want? " I nodded yes and she went at it. Death grip, very fast, but she did allow utc top and did slide a finger in the back like I asked. Can't complain. Not great, but I don't expect this to last. Tip. 4.
One thing to note though, the lights when turned off had a glowing red light in the middle. She caught me staring trying to figure out what it was and said it was emergency lighting and pointed to the emergency box. I'm still not sure if I was being filmed or not but I can't imagine a camera would pick up much through the textured glass of the light box. Very confused about it though. If anyone has any intel please share. Theres got to be a lighting guy on this board.
[QUOTE=InforSkin;3208622]Hi. Welcome to the chas forum. Unfortunately, you won't find what you're looking for at any of the AMPs around here. Strictly standard endings.[/QUOTE]Damn that sucks, guess I will wait till I get back upstate. If any of you are ever going through Gvegas or Sparkle city hit me up and I will point you in the right direction. Thanks for the heads up and also for saving me a few dead presidents.
Saw Nancy several weeks ago. Great experience. Very accommodating.
Fairly new around here but I've been seeing a lot of reviews on Zen and Crystal. Good stuff, but I was interested in a little more than just standard endings. Not necessarily FS. But more than a HJ. Is there a place in the area that might have an expanded menu or am I looking at a ride to Columbia?
[QUOTE=Winger1;3211377]Fairly new around here but I've been seeing a lot of reviews on Zen and Crystal. Good stuff, but I was interested in a little more than just standard endings. Not necessarily FS. But more than a HJ. Is there a place in the area that might have an expanded menu or am I looking at a ride to Columbia?[/QUOTE]Sorry but unless you develop a special relationship with a particular person and HJ is about all your going to get.
Went to Zen today. They said, "no Jessica work here, sorry. " So maybe she goes by a different name, or mistaken?
[QUOTE=Joe3408;3205504]I tried to have yall read between the lines. . but during massage she went toppless. I had no idea. . I was floored when she asked if it was alright. . they were double ds and she used them to finish the massage. . best experience there ever. . I camt be the only one. . that why I was asking if any of you got jessica and was holding out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fighterhouse;3212187]Went to Zen today. They said, "no Jessica work here, sorry. " So maybe she goes by a different name, or mistaken?[/QUOTE]Got table shower from her just before Christmas then they changed and got message from Tina but think her name is Jennifer.
Dropped by in a dream, table shower was great massage could have been more stiffer. The flip was standard but great. First I was there and took forum advice left. 4 tip. Overall great dream!
New user here. Went to 1416 ARR last week for the first time. Had a table shower and massage. Lots of great touching and it was actually a really good massage. The masseuse was middle aged, friendly and pretty decent looking. She was very thorough in the table shower and during the massage. As I was going to go home and have sex with my wife, I declined the handjob at the end. I would go back there in the future, but since I am new to doing this in Charleston, I will explore first before settling on a place. Any recommendations for my next stop?
[QUOTE=Thisname;3213006]Dropped by in a dream, table shower was great massage could have been more stiffer. The flip was standard but great. First I was there and took forum advice left. 4 tip. Overall great dream![/QUOTE]Dropped by where?
[QUOTE=Jlttow;3212231]Got table shower from her just before Christmas then they changed and got message from Tina but think her name is Jennifer.[/QUOTE]Lots of confusion over this person- if gone for two weeks after Christmas then in my humble opinion it's only 50/50 that she will return if she is real.
[QUOTE=Thisname;3213006]Dropped by in a dream, table shower was great massage could have been more stiffer. The flip was standard but great. First I was there and took forum advice left. 4 tip. Overall great dream![/QUOTE]Where or who are you referring to?
[QUOTE=Jlttow;3212231]Got table shower from her just before Christmas then they changed and got message from Tina but think her name is Jennifer.[/QUOTE]I called and asked for jennifer and they nobody here name that and hung up on me.
[QUOTE=ChasMale;3213191]Lots of confusion over this person- if gone for two weeks after Christmas then in my humble opinion it's only 50/50 that she will return if she is real.[/QUOTE]She was real my friend. . no reason to make it up. Her name was jessica for sure. Like I said before, she owns 2 in new york. Perhaps she owns zen as well and I got lucky. . hopefully she was down to teach the girls what to do. Altho she did say she would be back.
Joe is telling the truth people. I went to Zen tonight and got lucky enough to get the famed Jennifer. I'm not sure why they don't acknowledge her existence when people call and ask about her but she is DEFINETELY real and probably the best provider Zen has to offer. She is about 5'6 or 7 with short hair. I also confirm the tits. Joe is spot on with the description of her chest. During the table shower she was very playful and engaged. Played in the right areas. Massage was AMAZING! Took care of all the knots. Her foot massage was something special.
When she got to the teasing she stopped and I heard something fall on the floor. It was her shirt. On the flip to my surprise her shirt was off and her girls were out. She started rubbing my chest and actually grabbed my hand and put it on her butt. I was in near shock. Then she got to the goods. Perfect 2 handed motion. At this point my hands are all over her nice firm nipples. I'm not ashamed to say I probably lasted 3 mins. She dryed me off with the towel and KEPT HER SHIRT OFF TO CONTINUE THE LEG, NECK, AND FACE MASSAGE. We all owe a dept to Joe. He is telling the truth. Best time I ever had at Zen. Better than May for sure.
[QUOTE=TheRavager;3215704]Joe is telling the truth people. I went to Zen tonight and got lucky enough to get the famed Jennifer. I'm not sure why they don't acknowledge her existence when people call and ask about her but she is DEFINETELY real and probably the best provider Zen has to offer. She is about 5'6 or 7 with short hair. I also confirm the tits. Joe is spot on with the description of her chest. During the table shower she was very playful and engaged. Played in the right areas. Massage was AMAZING! Took care of all the knots. Her foot massage was something special.
When she got to the teasing she stopped and I heard something fall on the floor. It was her shirt. On the flip to my surprise her shirt was off and her girls were out. She started rubbing my chest and actually grabbed my hand and put it on her butt. I was in near shock. Then she got to the goods. Perfect 2 handed motion. At this point my hands are all over her nice firm nipples. I'm not ashamed to say I probably lasted 3 mins. She dryed me off with the towel and KEPT HER SHIRT OFF TO CONTINUE THE LEG, NECK, AND FACE MASSAGE. We all owe a dept to Joe. He is telling the truth. Best time I ever had at Zen. Better than May for sure.[/QUOTE]I'm joe3408, and I endorse this message.
[QUOTE=TheRavager;3215704]Joe is telling the truth people. I went to Zen tonight and got lucky enough to get the famed Jennifer. I'm not sure why they don't acknowledge her existence when people call and ask about her but she is DEFINETELY real and probably the best provider Zen has to offer. She is about 5'6 or 7 with short hair. I also confirm the tits. Joe is spot on with the description of her chest. During the table shower she was very playful and engaged. Played in the right areas. Massage was AMAZING! Took care of all the knots. Her foot massage was something special.
When she got to the teasing she stopped and I heard something fall on the floor. It was her shirt. On the flip to my surprise her shirt was off and her girls were out. She started rubbing my chest and actually grabbed my hand and put it on her butt. I was in near shock. Then she got to the goods. Perfect 2 handed motion. At this point my hands are all over her nice firm nipples. I'm not ashamed to say I probably lasted 3 mins. She dryed me off with the towel and KEPT HER SHIRT OFF TO CONTINUE THE LEG, NECK, AND FACE MASSAGE. We all owe a dept to Joe. He is telling the truth. Best time I ever had at Zen. Better than May for sure.[/QUOTE]My hat off to Joe and today hopefully my clothes off for Jennifer. Sorry for doubting it.
I went to zen this morning and ask for jennifer and was told she was still in new york for 1 or 2 weeks. Something is up here.
So was disappointed about jennifer I just ended up taking a trip to crystal. They had 3 new girls there and I got connie. Cute face. Massage was good. No oil used and kept towel on untill the teasing. On the flip it was pretty good. She allowed me to take the babies out and even got on the table 69 and started bouncing up and down while she did the work. Ill get it a 8 out of 10.
[QUOTE=Jalil09;3216135]I went to zen this morning and ask for jennifer and was told she was still in new york for 1 or 2 weeks. Something is up here.[/QUOTE]I called this morning and asked who was working. The person said who would you like so I said May and she said that she was on vacation so I said how about Jennifer and she said that she was on vacation so I said I'll be in and try someone new. FYI.
I saw Yoko at Crystal last week. Short hair, great body, mid 20's. Best massage I have had at Crystal. Called yesterday and today about repeating. Yesterday I was told she was off. Today I was told she no longer works there. If anyone hears where Yoko wound up, I would appreciate a heads up. She was a definite repeat.
Stopped off at Vitality this afternoon for a visit. . 10 at the door, which is the most I've ever paid up front.
Drew Ashley, white girl with a very thin body (which I like). Massage started off normal. Light touch, which I expected & wanted instead of the deep tissue & therapeutic that I've received at Zen, wappoo,& 1416 arr.
Ashley was very nice & fun to talk to. When it came time for the flip, she went straight to work.
I don't want to go into too many details, but PM if you want to know more. Needless to say, I left Ashley's care a much happier man & will be back to see her again.
The only thing I wish would be better is if the massage went on a bit longer. It was slightly rushed & I didn't get the full hour. I will give her another visit & hope I can get more time in her care. Be warned tho, if thin spinner body with a tiny ass & tits are not your thing, then move along. I personally enjoyed Ashley's body type. She isn't as young as some of the girls at Zen, but much younger than what's offered at Wappoo (Indeego Reflexology).
Hope this helps.
I have never been to an Asian massage parlor before. But with all of this talk lately about Zen and I seem to pass by there several times a week I believe it is time for me to take the plunge. However I do not want to walk through the door like a complete newbie. I understand there is a house fee upfront and then you're showing to a room do you then negotiate?
If some of you pros could shoot me a PM with some ideas of what to expect it would greatly be appreciated.
I went and you're led back to a room. Pay. Change while the attendant warms water. Go with the flow.
[QUOTE=BigWilliam;3221873]I have never been to an Asian massage parlor before. But with all of this talk lately about Zen and I seem to pass by there several times a week I believe it is time for me to take the plunge. However I do not want to walk through the door like a complete newbie. I understand there is a house fee upfront and then you're showing to a room do you then negotiate?
If some of you pros could shoot me a PM with some ideas of what to expect it would greatly be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigWilliam;3221873]I have never been to an Asian massage parlor before. But with all of this talk lately about Zen and I seem to pass by there several times a week I believe it is time for me to take the plunge. However I do not want to walk through the door like a complete newbie. I understand there is a house fee upfront and then you're showing to a room do you then negotiate?
If some of you pros could shoot me a PM with some ideas of what to expect it would greatly be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Most AMPs around here, you will pay the room fee $70 once you enter the room. After that the process can vary from girl to girl.
Most of the time I find they will get you to the flip and then discuss, or what usually happens to me is that things will progress to a HE or more (OTC or UTC). Then I usually leave $40 or so on the massage table as I get dressed.
Some tips I have are when they are at the head of the table and you are on your stomach, take your hands and lightly massage the backs of their legs. I usually work up to the ass. If no resistance is detected I will move between their legs from the back. That usually sets the tempo. I also make sure my legs are spread very wide. If they don't brush the boys when rubbing your ass or upper thighs. Good luck. If they start working your ass and balls. Get ready!
[QUOTE=LowPirate;3218724]Stopped off at Vitality this afternoon for a visit. . 10 at the door, which is the most I've ever paid up front.
Drew Ashley, white girl with a very thin body (which I like). Massage started off normal. Light touch, which I expected & wanted instead of the deep tissue & therapeutic that I've received at Zen, wappoo,& 1416 arr.
Ashley was very nice & fun to talk to. When it came time for the flip, she went straight to work.
I don't want to go into too many details, but PM if you want to know more. Needless to say, I left Ashley's care a much happier man & will be back to see her again.
The only thing I wish would be better is if the massage went on a bit longer. It was slightly rushed & I didn't get the full hour. I will give her another visit & hope I can get more time in her care. Be warned tho, if thin spinner body with a tiny ass & tits are not your thing, then move along. I personally enjoyed Ashley's body type. She isn't as young as some of the girls at Zen, but much younger than what's offered at Wappoo (Indeego Reflexology).
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Could you tell me where this is located? Thank you.
[QUOTE=BigWilliam;3221873]I have never been to an Asian massage parlor before. But with all of this talk lately about Zen and I seem to pass by there several times a week I believe it is time for me to take the plunge. However I do not want to walk through the door like a complete newbie. I understand there is a house fee upfront and then you're showing to a room do you then negotiate?
If some of you pros could shoot me a PM with some ideas of what to expect it would greatly be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Here are some tips I wrote here ([URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3617-General-Reports&p=853032&viewfull=1[/URL]#post853032) several years ago:
1) Depending on how the place works, you may first talk to the mama-san thorugh a window. This is generally an older lady, but usually she will *not* be the one giving you services. It *is* important though that she have a good opinion of you. In other places, you may be greeted when the door opens by the girl giving you services -- generally you will *not* get a "line-up", though if you have been there before, you can request a specific favorite girl at this point.
2) The girl / mamasan will lead you to a cubicle with a homeade cot and take the "house fee" (usally $60-$80). You will usually be asked if you want a shower here. Say 'yes'. The girl will leave and you should undress at this point.
3) If you saw the mamasan before, you will next be visited by your "real" girl (If the mamasan did not take you to the cubicle, the girl who took you there is your "real" girl). You should be waiting sitting on the cot, naked. You should *not* cover yourself with a towel while waiting. Being naked means that you are OK with naked interaction and is your first "test". Your girl will wrap a towel around you and take you to the table shower room. Do not worry about your wallet and keys: access to these places is controlled, and the girls are invariably honest about your property (they may try to extract cash from you by making you think with the wrong head, but that's another story). (Some places may give you a waterproof 'purse' to carry your important items to the shower with you -- that's OK too).
4) The girl wil have you lie down on a vinyl covered table face down and will soap you up and scrub you down. This is almost always very pleasant! The cleaning is genuine and thorough, not the rip-off body-scrub some non AMPs advertise. She may pay extra attention to cleaning your ass. This is becasuse a) it's in her interest, b) to see how you react and c) in some cases a realy thorough scrub leaves open the possiblility that she may rim you later. You will then turn over on your back. Hopefully she will *not* cover your privates with a wash cloth -- doing so indicantes some unsurety on her part about you. If she does, she may indicate you should scrub there -- make sure she knows it's OK with you that she do it. If she does *not* cover you with a wash cloth, she will generally make sure Mr. Happy gets a good scrub while doing your front. If she's really sure of you (or you are a repeat customer) she may jack you off almost to orgasm, which is very pleasant.
If things are slow and nobody is waiting for the shower room, she may also offer to wash your hair.
5) After the shower, you will be led back to your room and will lie down on the cot face down. Your girl will leave to go back to the shower and clean it for the next customer. When she comes back, the massage will start. If the place offers only handjobs, the massage may be very good and legitimately worth the house fee you paid. If the place offers full service, the massage is generally not as good by itself. At any rate, and your girl comes to the end of the on-your-face period, she will usually switch to a softer, more sensual touch. If you are already trusted, she may tickle your balls and perenium perhaps even grabbing your cock from time to time. She will then tell you to turn over.
6) At this point you may be told the massage is over and an awkward silence will ensue. This is your cue to indicate that you would like something more, and offer a tip. Most girls will collect your tip at this point, though some will trust you to come through on the way out the door.
7) If you negotiated a handjob (which is all some places offer) the girl will generally start without leaving the room. She may take off her top or more, and offer you groping access. If you are getting full service, she will generally leave the room to lube up her puss and get a condom. Most girls will tell you to lie down and wait. Don't lie down though -- sit on the edge of the cot. This gives you an opening to hug and play with her tits when she comes back and strips.
8) Don't get nervous about your health if it seems that she starts the session by going down on you bareback. In fact, she will have the condom in her mouth and will apply it to your cock invisibly as she starts the blowjob. It's a neat trick!
9) While she is doing oral, she may be receptive to 69. Of course the risk to you is not 0, but AMP girls are very conscious about their health, and don't do guys uncovered, so I think the risk is minimal.
10) Usually she will start with a female-on-top position for the actual sex, but once her knees get tired, you can switch to mish, doggy or whatever she's comfortable with.
11) Afterwards, she will remove and dispose of your condom. She will leave the room and bring back hot towels to clean you up, and if you went down on her, usually some listerine.
12) Be sure to thank her! If you see the mamasan on the way out thank her as well, and compliment your girl in front of her.
It seems to me that most AMPs in SC have Korean girls. These are a few cultural things I've picked up on -.
1) They are very comfortable being "nosy". When you're in an AMP, you're trying to keep everything on the down-low and not think about anyone who wouldn't want you there, but the girls have no qualms asking about your wife or girlfriend. I think to some extent this is to judge about using scented oils etc, but mostly they are just curious, and don't see it as odd.
2) The girls all seem to have a good sense of humor, but it's skewed from the typical American sense. I have a hard time predicting what they'll find funny. Sometimes I go for a joke that falls completely flat, other times I'll just make a random remark that strikes them as hilarious. If you do spend some time talking with them though they enjoy being told jokes whether they "get" them or not.
3) Unlike many American providers, the girls are not "damaged". They aren't druggies and they don't have the fear that what they are doing will send them to hell. They may not really *like* the AMP life, but it's the way you don't like being a garbageman or working the graveyard shift at 7-11, unpleasant, but honest work. This makes a big difference in their self image, how they take care of themselves and how they view their future prospects, and it is much more fun to interact with them than some meth-user who is pretty sure she'll be dead in five years (and probably won't bathe again before that). It also means that you can make a difference in their day by being a nice guy. It's the right thing to do, *and* nice guys get the extra mile treatment.
Spaceman Spiff.
Damn Spiff!! At.
Here I am all proud of a couple of lines of suggestions, and then you come out with the Wikipedia on AMPs!!
Great and very detailed and helpful information! I even found some of it to be helpful and I've been doing this longer than I care to admit! Take care good buddy!
Thank you SS. I feel like I can walk in there like a pro now.
[QUOTE=Voyrinsc;3224348]Damn Spiff!! At.
Here I am all proud of a couple of lines of suggestions, and then you come out with the Wikipedia on AMPs!!
Great and very detailed and helpful information! I even found some of it to be helpful and I've been doing this longer than I care to admit! Take care good buddy![/QUOTE]I totally agree. Spaceman definitely knows about what he writes. On the international board, there are "posts of distinction ". If the US board had a similar designation, this one would certainly be an entry. Maybe Jackson should consider this for the US board as well. That way, when there is a newbie, we can refer him to the source document.
LD.