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I'm tired of the OC massage place. I'm going to try a new place located on [blue][Coded words deleted by admin][/blue] and [blue][Coded words deleted by admin][/blue]. It's called [blue][Coded words deleted by admin][/blue]. My monger buddy said, "This is where the hot Korean babes are." For sure, I'm going to toftt.
[QUOTE=Redon1]Does anyone know what happened to Bebe that used to work at the AMP on Penn in Lomita? The MMS said she went to Korea but we think that maybe she is working at a different place. I need a good ear cleaning and she is the best!
Thanks![/QUOTE]
No info on Bebe, but Genie does the ear cleaning too. Visited last weekend and saw Anna. she told me she had just started working there, and I responded that I had seen her there a couple of months ago. then she claimed that she had worked there a short while before and now is back, so she maybe a replacement for Bebe. Had a great time with her, no rimming, but lots of tongue and nipple action all over my body, a pretty good CBJ and 69, she enjoys DATY and a finish in CG.
In my experience when the MMS says a girl has gone on vacation it normally means that she isn't coming back, but if she "went to Korea" it isn't unusual for her to return. I had mentioned to MMS that I had seen Genie, Bebe and Anna before and she told me only Genie and Anna were working and sent in Anna.
AF
[QUOTE=AsianFan]No info on Bebe, but Genie does the ear cleaning too. Visited last weekend and saw Anna. she told me she had just started working there, and I responded that I had seen her there a couple of months ago. then she claimed that she had worked there a short while before and now is back, so she maybe a replacement for Bebe. Had a great time with her, no rimming, but lots of tongue and nipple action all over my body, a pretty good CBJ and 69, she enjoys DATY and a finish in CG.
In my experience when the MMS says a girl has gone on vacation it normally means that she isn't coming back, but if she "went to Korea" it isn't unusual for her to return. I had mentioned to MMS that I had seen Genie, Bebe and Anna before and she told me only Genie and Anna were working and sent in Anna.
AF[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. Thats funny how so many of the girls claim that they just started but we have seen them there before. Sounds like you like Anna. The other new girl I got there smelled too much of smoking for me to enjoy her.
The rimming is a nice extra and why we all like to see Bebe or Genie! Is there others that provide this?
I asked the MMS when Bebe would return and she said she was not coming back. I thank Bebe was the best ear cleaner.
I guess its because its close to elections?
What a waste of tax dollars
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[QUOTE=Pl2000]I guess its because its close to elections?
What a waste of tax dollars
[url]http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_16207442[/url][/QUOTE]
Its not a waste of dollars. Its a HUGE waste of dollars. But the law is the law no matter how stupid. Besides if people are complaining, the police have to do something. Otherwise, it could be a major issue for them. Its on the massage parlors for not keeping the locals happy. They either got sloppy or didn't grease the wheels enough.
[QUOTE=Blue Cup]Its not a waste of dollars. Its a HUGE waste of dollars. But the law is the law no matter how stupid. Besides if people are complaining, the police have to do something. Otherwise, it could be a major issue for them. Its on the massage parlors for not keeping the locals happy. They either got sloppy or didn't grease the wheels enough.[/QUOTE]They always use the after much complaints statement. I could almost bet that no one is complaining.
Its similar to training day to those who remember that film. There are people you can bust at anytime for certain things when you need to get a bust. Most cops know who the drug dealers already are.
In my experience, more busts tend to happen, in September and October election years. Could be just selective memory, but it sure seems so.
I guess what places should do is have a set fee for a massage with no tipping allowed and anything that happens between two adults is on them.
I guess a question is what could be done to stop busts. I have some ideas, that I think could work. I'm no lawyer so would like any opinion.
Woman should never ever ask "what do you want" with body language or anything. Patron should never ask for anything.
The key will be on the flip. On the flip if patron has a cover on, then the masseuse will know what he wants and can either kick him out if its a legit place or do what she knows you want without saying a word. This could cause upsell one would think and some robs. But the massage is paid for in advance with zero tipping allowed. The way we would tell if its most likely a place we want to go to is the price. If the cost is $150 for half hour then we would know its a place we want to go. If its the $30 1/2 hour thing. Then we would know its not. But I can guarantee, people would take advantage of this and rob. This is wher tofft comes in. We have to start a whole new language when it that small room (none at all) and change the way the game is played, else we are always at risk for that bust.
So I guess the real question for this group is "how can busts be reduced/stopped while still going? "
Or is it just always going to be Russian roulette.
Is Ace still open? It is one of my local places. It was mentioned in the article. I wonder who would be complaining? They are discreet and next to biker bar.
I just drive past Ace and I saw the lights on! I guess that answers my question.
*URGENT*
First time to post as I usually just look, but had to give a heads up,
The "White House" has just been infiltrated.
About 8PM tonight, saw it first hand.
BUSTED! And I saw it with my own eyes. Was in the area, so I decided to stop by. Parked my car right in front, but noticed alot of activity going on inside, so I stayed in my car. Low and behold, LE began bringing out 3 MT's plus the Mamasan. Got video too, if anyone wants to see it.
From Jst4funinsc on another post.
I hope this gets posted right away. Went Zen first time. Paid my 50 and was.
Asked if I had been there before. Told her no but Terry had refered me. Led.
Me to room where I asked for a shower. Led me to shower nice room took a.
Nice shower and mouth wash was supplied so I took some. Went back to room.
And on the way spotted a nice looking tall girl. Laid down and waited for.
Her. She came in did not catch her name. Said first time and I told her.
Yes. She asked who told me about her and I said Terry. She laughed and said.
She knew Terry. Jumped on my back as I lay naked face down and started a.
Shoulder massage then the fun began. Door burst open and woman grabbed.
Her and pulled her out sidd. Told her to open her mouth and I think she had.
A cover in there not sure. Closed door and told me to stay put.10.
Minutes later undercover walked in and questions. Statements etc. Got.
Nervous but stayed cool. He left and another came in telling me that if I.
Lie I am going to jail.10 minutes later the first one came back (good.
Cop bad cop) telling me its ok and talking about what I knew. That this was.
A known house of prostitution etc.10 minutes later the bad cop comes.
Back in saying the girls and Mamasan said I am a regular which I denied. He.
Said he was going to go review tape and that if I lied I would go to.
Jail.15 minutes later first guy came back in and said I would be.
Leaving shortly. Then the woman cop who had first come in came in and.
Took photos of me. They took down all typical info from DL and then let me.
And a poor guy in the room next to me leave togeter. Yelling out Walking as.
We walked to the front door. They said don't look and don't come back as we.
Passed the girls. Out to car and out of there less my 50 and nervous as.
Hell. I also went by Sai Bai on PCH / Pennsilvania and it was closed up.
Solid. I have no doubt it was hit as well. Be carefull out there glad.
They did not wait 10 more minutes. Don't know if any of you have been.
Through this but was my first and hopefully my last time getting.
Caught. Tried to post on forum to warn you all but could not or don't.
Know how to start topic.
Damn and I wanted to try this place out too. Place was just drawing too much attention.
What places got busted? Zen and Thai Sabai?
I guess even MP are no longer completely safe. Will have to head to Tijuana, but risk is the Mex Police shakedown.
I have seen the cameras at MP's before, inside and out. If they get busted, can they see who has been coming? If they have outside, then maybe they can get your license plate number too?
Food for thought?
[QUOTE=Redon1; 1075203]What places got busted? Zen and Thai Sabai?
I guess even MP are no longer completely safe. Will have to head to Tijuana, but risk is the Mex Police shakedown.
I have seen the cameras at MP's before, inside and out. If they get busted, can they see who has been coming? If they have outside, then maybe they can get your license plate number too?
Food for thought? [/QUOTE]That's why you don't park your car near an MP. I prefer parking my car far away than take a walk to the MP.
So what did / didn't you tell them?
I just want to know so I can do the same thing if it ever happens to me.
[QUOTE=Fish Hunter; 1074510]From Jst4funinsc on another post.
I hope this gets posted right away. Went Zen first time. Paid my 50 and was.
Asked if I had been there before. Told her no but Terry had refered me. Led.
Me to room where I asked for a shower. Led me to shower nice room took a.
Nice shower and mouth wash was supplied so I took some. Went back to room.
And on the way spotted a nice looking tall girl. Laid down and waited for.
Her. She came in did not catch her name. Said first time and I told her.
Yes. She asked who told me about her and I said Terry. She laughed and said.
She knew Terry. Jumped on my back as I lay naked face down and started a.
Shoulder massage then the fun began. Door burst open and woman grabbed.
Her and pulled her out sidd. Told her to open her mouth and I think she had.
A cover in there not sure. Closed door and told me to stay put.10.
Minutes later undercover walked in and questions. Statements etc. Got.
Nervous but stayed cool. He left and another came in telling me that if I.
Lie I am going to jail.10 minutes later the first one came back (good.
Cop bad cop) telling me its ok and talking about what I knew. That this was.
A known house of prostitution etc.10 minutes later the bad cop comes.
Back in saying the girls and Mamasan said I am a regular which I denied. He.
Said he was going to go review tape and that if I lied I would go to.
Jail.15 minutes later first guy came back in and said I would be.
Leaving shortly. Then the woman cop who had first come in came in and.
Took photos of me. They took down all typical info from DL and then let me.
And a poor guy in the room next to me leave togeter. Yelling out Walking as.
We walked to the front door. They said don't look and don't come back as we.
Passed the girls. Out to car and out of there less my 50 and nervous as.
Hell. I also went by Sai Bai on PCH / Pennsilvania and it was closed up.
Solid. I have no doubt it was hit as well. Be carefull out there glad.
They did not wait 10 more minutes. Don't know if any of you have been.
Through this but was my first and hopefully my last time getting.
Caught. Tried to post on forum to warn you all but could not or don't.
Know how to start topic. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dgoesinyours; 1075940]So what did / didn't you tell them?
I just want to know so I can do the same thing if it ever happens to me. [/QUOTE]This post is over at mpr&. Com site. It says he just denied anything and everything and said it was his first time and he just played it cool. I just know what you know from reading the post. What can I say?
http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_16368748? Source=rss_viewed
Story about two providers that got busted in Redondo Beach these piggys don't have better things to do then bust the places were someone goes for some relaxation. This has to stop
More busts at the following places on Monday.
Lee's Accupuncture
Ace Accupressure.
Ocean Therapy.
[url]http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_16368748?[/url]
Some of the ladies look scary I wouldn't want massages from them.
Safe Mongering.
[QUOTE=JankyFreak; 1080050]More busts at the following places on Monday.
Lee's Accupuncture
Ace Accupressure.
Ocean Therapy.
[url]http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_16368748?[/url]
Some of the ladies look scary I wouldn't want massages from them.
Safe Mongering. [/QUOTE]If you were harassed by 7 cops and pictures taking of you and possibly put in your local paper wouldn't you be scare asshole!
[QUOTE=Mphelper909;1080394]If you were harassed by 7 cops and pictures taking of you and possibly put in your local paper wouldn't you be scare asshole![/QUOTE]Dude what's your problem. I was commenting on the picture of the latina. Why not take a look at the article with pictures first prior to call me a name.
With this business it is always a risk both for mongers and the girls working. I'm partially glad nobody has been posting here recently now. I will stop posting all together now. When's the last informative post you made MPhelper909. All I have seen from your are sting posts. Wow. How about reviews of girls like the old days.
Anyways the good old days of hot chicks at AMPs are gone.
Happy mongering or what's left of it.
JF
From Redondo Beach Paper. From Sting article.
A john's story.
A Redondo Beach man who spoke on the condition of anonymity painted a different picture of the local massage parlors.
The man said he has been going to massage parlors for about 18 years.
'I could tell you every place up and down the street, every place that has so-called 'happy ending' prostitutes, ' he said. 'I know the whole area like the back of my hand. '
He said he has come to personally know many of the women who work in the parlors. All, he said, commute from outside the area, often from an hour or two inland. Many, he said, support families with the wages they make at the parlors offering sexual services that at the very least include a massage of private parts and often intercourse. None, he said, do so against their will.
'I would totally, no doubt, blow people away if they were human-trafficking girls against their will, ' he said. 'I mean it, I would have no problem killing these guys. I see that on TV, I see what's happening with young girls 8 or 10 years old, and my heart wrenches. Here, there is no doubt in my mind these girls are not victims. They are going into this to support their families. No one is forcing them. I've known these same girls for years. '
He said that he has on occasion even dated some of the women who work at the parlors. The financial arrangement, he said, is that the operator of the establishment often called the 'mama-san' makes the hourly rate charged for massages, usually $50 or $60. The woman technically, the masseuse then makes whatever she earns in tips, which vary for services provided. He said this ranges from $50 to as much as $200 depending on the sex act.
'I think that it's all money driven, ' he said. 'These girls make $1,000 to $2,000 a day. '
The problems associated with the operations, the man suggested, have more to do with the black market nature of the enterprise. He argued that in Nevada, where prostitution is legal, such issues as human trafficking aren't prevalent.
'I am not saying it is morally right, ' he said. 'It's more like it's just going to happen. The problem is you've got mainstream society going back to prohibition on all that stuff, from a moral standpoint. But men are men, and men are going to search it out, right or wrong. Supply and demand: it's not going to stop. '
He also said that most of the women are savvy enough to recognize undercover police the minute they walk into the parlors. He said that most wait for the man to take action touching a woman in a sexual manner because police cannot do so without making conviction impossible due to entrapment.
'How do I say this? Basically, you run your hands along her leg or [private parts] and if she is game, you know it, ' he said. 'What happens is cops can't do that. '
The man said that contrary to what many people might believe, what goes on in the illicit massage parlors isn't necessarily all about sex. He acknowledges that he has 'intimacy issues' but said that part of the reason he frequents massage parlors is the controlled intimacy it offers him.
'Everybody thinks of it as a taboo, but for me, it's more about being held and touched, that moment in time, to get me through the rest of the week, ' he said. 'That is what it is for me, and I think I can speak for a lot of men. I just want to be held. It's hard for a man to say that just hold me. '
[QUOTE=Redon1; 1080757]From Redondo Beach Paper. From Sting article.
He also said that most of the women are savvy enough to recognize undercover police the minute they walk into the parlors. He said that most wait for the man to take action touching a woman in a sexual manner because police cannot do so without making conviction impossible due to entrapment.
'How do I say this? Basically, you run your hands along her leg or [private parts] and if she is game, you know it, ' he said. 'What happens is cops can't do that. '[/QUOTE]He doesn't know anything about undercover police when they're out in the field. If the women can recognize the undercover, how come the place got raided. The police will do all necessary means even if they proceed with entrapment on it main target. I heard it from private source. (not disclosing where I got it) The police knows all about these place. They just want to let the public knows that they're enforcing the laws and keeping an eye on these massage place.
I would get massage from either of them. The Korean looks cute and the Latina did a great job of hiding her appearance in the mug shot. Thats a good lesson on how to make your mug shot look as unrecognizable as possible. This is not your portrait.
Anyone know the status of the MP's? And the girls? Maybe it is the cost of business?
[QUOTE=JankyFreak; 1080050]More busts at the following places on Monday.
Lee's Accupuncture
Ace Accupressure.
Ocean Therapy.
[url]http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_16368748?[/url]
Some of the ladies look scary I wouldn't want massages from them.
Safe Mongering. [/QUOTE]
Anyone ever get a 4 Hand Massage.
It would be fun to bang 2 girls, or get 4 hands on your cock for the tug.
Maybe finger bang one while the other is blowing you.
I did this once back in the early 80's at the Circus Maximus Massage Palace in West Hollywood.
Boy, those were the days. They had gorgeous white girls. All dressed in skimpy togas.
They advertised full page ads in the Lakers game program.
Bare back everything. This was before aids hit. Great times.
BALDY CRUISER :)
http://www.socalinsiders.com/posts/1780/bust-stings-and-ripoffs/
Two women were arrested on suspicion of prostitution last week in a sweep of local massage parlors conducted by undercover police detectives.
Meanwhile, local authorities, a pastor and a patron of the massage parlors described an illicit and increasingly sophisticated Redondo Beach sex trade.
The arrests, part of an ongoing operation by the Redondo Beach Police Department's Special Investigations Unit, occurred Oct.13. Detectives arrested Vilma Ramirez, 33, a Bell Gardens resident and an employee of Lee's Acupuncture on Aviation Boulevard, and Hye Son, 32, a Los Angeles resident and employee of Ocean Acupuncture on Artesia Boulevard.
RBPD Sgt. Jon Naylor said that the sting operations resulted from a large number of complaints police have received lately concerning suspicious activity at massage parlors.
'I think it is concerning, because of the complaints we get and especially the volume we are getting, ' Naylor said. 'And these places are located close to residential areas. '
Police arrested Vilma Ramirez, 33, at Lee's Acupuncture on suspicion of prostitution.
Police arrested three women on suspicion of prostitution earlier this month. Detectives arrested Xiang Barker, 47, the owner and massage practitioner at Sun Flower Massage; Mun Mi Jung, 31, an employee at Ace Acupressure; and Yushan Piao, 47, an employee at Redondo Therapy Massage Center. Ace Acupressure was also cited last week for operating without state or city permits.
The ubiquity of massage parlors in Redondo Beach has caught the attention of policymakers. According to planning department records, 25 massage parlors are licensed in the city. At a recent strategic planning session, the City Council directed staff to explore imposing a moratorium on the opening of any more. Torrance earlier this year implemented such a moratorium and the Redondo council is expected to consider doing so by the end of this year.
Police Chief Joe Leonardi said that the issue of prostitution at local massage and acupuncture businesses has been an ongoing concern for at least two decades.
'At least for 20 years, it has been a recurring issue, ' Leonardi said. 'Every time we address the issue with these type operations, it may calm down for a short period of time. But then they come back, and we get more complaints from residents. '
Naylor said police are seeking more information from the public as they continue to investigate massage parlors.
'A lot of really important input is from the community, ' he said. 'A lot of times they see suspicious things that we don't necessarily see, so we really encourage anyone if they see something suspicious to give us a call. '
Human trafficking.
Investigators have found an increasingly sophisticated underground economy associated with the massage parlors.
Several third party websites, for example, give reviews not only of the establishments themselves but detailed descriptions of the women who work within the parlors and the services they provide. One such site, a national guide of sorts called ********. Com, listed 14 businesses allegedly offering sexual services within Redondo Beach. Another, **************. Com, grades alleged prostitutes on appearance, performance, and attitude.
A woman identified as 'Coco' at Ace Acupressure, for example, was listed as 36 years old, 5-foot-2, brown haired, and having 34 to 35 inch breasts, with implants; a list of 16 'service' categories, available to paying members of the site, describe what she purportedly will or won't do for customers.
City Prosecutor Brenda Wells earlier this month won a prostitution conviction stemming from a massage parlor arrest. She said that during jury selection, several prospective jurors were dismissed 'for cause' because they expressed belief that such a crime was victimless.
'I think that is something in our society that needs to be exposed, because in reality it is not a victimless crime, ' Wells said. 'If a massage parlor is on a corner where kids are coming home from school, they see neon signs and men going in to a place where you can have sex. That is basically like what you see in the red light district in Amsterdam. '
Wells said such establishments have been frequently found nationwide to be used in international human trafficking. Both Wells and Leonardi said that the USA Department of Homeland Security issues frequent reports on human trafficking operations that frequently use massage parlors as fronts.
'There are a variety of ways it can be manifested, ' Leonardi said. 'Sometimes, people owe a debt in other countries and the women are brought here to work off a debt for their families. '
Wells said many of the women are lured to jobs in the USA as nannies or hospitality industry workers.
'All of those hopes are quickly taken away from them as they quickly learn their life here will be about prostitution, or about fulfilling debts and being used as a commodity, ' Wells said. 'One of the things about human trafficking, unlike narcotics, is that people can be sold over and over and over again, and a woman can be exploited and abused over and over again for the financial gain of a perpetrator. '
None of the recent arrests was found to involve human trafficking. But in 2005, a massage parlor on Manhattan Beach Boulevard near Inglewood Avenue was investigated as part of USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operation that involved local police agencies. RBPD Lt. Joe Hoffman, the head of the detective bureau, took part in the ICE investigation and said that the massage parlor was found to be involved in human trafficking. Several arrests resulted.
'In that case what was happening is it was an organized crime ring that was bringing over young girls still adults, but young from Korea and essentially forcing them to work as prostitutes to pay off debts, ' Hoffman said.
Leonardi stressed that not every local massage parlor is operating illicitly. But he also noted that it was not easy to identify human trafficking issues even after arrests are made in the businesses that are offering prostitution.
'It's a very difficult thing to prove because the people arrested are often not very open about their circumstances, ' he said.
A john's story.
A Redondo Beach man who spoke on the condition of anonymity painted a different picture of the local massage parlors.
The man said he has been going to massage parlors for about 18 years.
'I could tell you every place up and down the street, every place that has so-called 'happy ending' prostitutes, ' he said. 'I know the whole area like the back of my hand. '
He said he has come to personally know many of the women who work in the parlors. All, he said, commute from outside the area, often from an hour or two inland. Many, he said, support families with the wages they make at the parlors offering sexual services that at the very least include a massage of private parts and often intercourse. None, he said, do so against their will.
'I would totally, no doubt, blow people away if they were human-trafficking girls against their will, ' he said. 'I mean it, I would have no problem killing these guys. I see that on TV, I see what's happening with young girls 8 or 10 years old, and my heart wrenches. Here, there is no doubt in my mind these girls are not victims. They are going into this to support their families. No one is forcing them. I've known these same girls for years. '
He said that he has on occasion even dated some of the women who work at the parlors. The financial arrangement, he said, is that the operator of the establishment often called the 'mama-san' makes the hourly rate charged for massages, usually $50 or $60. The woman technically, the masseuse then makes whatever she earns in tips, which vary for services provided. He said this ranges from $50 to as much as $200 depending on the sex act.
'I think that it's all money driven, ' he said. 'These girls make $1,000 to $2,000 a day. '
The problems associated with the operations, the man suggested, have more to do with the black market nature of the enterprise. He argued that in Nevada, where prostitution is legal, such issues as human trafficking aren't prevalent.
'I am not saying it is morally right, ' he said. 'It's more like it's just going to happen. The problem is you've got mainstream society going back to prohibition on all that stuff, from a moral standpoint. But men are men, and men are going to search it out, right or wrong. Supply and demand: it's not going to stop. '
He also said that most of the women are savvy enough to recognize undercover police the minute they walk into the parlors. He said that most wait for the man to take action touching a woman in a sexual manner because police cannot do so without making conviction impossible due to entrapment.
'How do I say this? Basically, you run your hands along her leg or [private parts] and if she is game, you know it, ' he said. 'What happens is cops can't do that. '
The man said that contrary to what many people might believe, what goes on in the illicit massage parlors isn't necessarily all about sex. He acknowledges that he has 'intimacy issues' but said that part of the reason he frequents massage parlors is the controlled intimacy it offers him.
'Everybody thinks of it as a taboo, but for me, it's more about being held and touched, that moment in time, to get me through the rest of the week, ' he said. 'That is what it is for me, and I think I can speak for a lot of men. I just want to be held. It's hard for a man to say that just hold me. '
Supply and demand.
Pastor Chris Cannon of King's Harbor Church recently went for a drive up the Pacific Coast Highway with his daughter. Together, they counted the number of massage parlors from nearby Harbor City to the entry of Redondo Beach. They counted 20.
Cannon, who has long argued that the city needed to address the issue of its own massage parlors, said that the recent arrests in Redondo Beach are the very tip of a much larger problem.
'I think it says two things, ' Cannon said. 'I think it says that Redondo Beach has the same problem that everyone else has. And it says we are ignorant of the problem. When you aren't looking, you don't see it. But if you begin to look for massage parlors in the strip malls, you see these places where the blinds are closed and there is access from the back. And then you begin to see they are everywhere. There are more of them than there are Starbucks and liquor stores. They are hidden in plain sight. '
Cannon agrees with the aforementioned anonymous patron of the massage parlors who the pastor has spoken with that it is indeed an issue of supply and demand. But he believes that as a community, and a society, people need to begin pondering what this apparently growing demand means.
Cannon believes the ready availability of pornography on the internet has created an insatiable demand, resulting in a more emotionally starved culture where a faηade of intimacy can increasingly be purchased like any other commodity.
'Where there is a demand, there will be a supply, ' he said. 'This is not a new thing it goes back as far as you can go. King David had a problem. We know men in particular have this drive for sexual gratification. It's just that the internet has fed that fire in ways we never imagined. The availability of pornography at your fingertips 24/7 it used to be a magazine stashed under your mattress, and now you have the equivalent in thousands of images a day to look at. '
The result, Cannon said, is an epidemic of sexual addiction that is ravaging families and making real intimacy ever more elusive. The pastor said that one in every four men who comes to him to talk about problems has some kind of a sex addiction problem. Cannon said the increasing number of massage parlors is an indication of this.
'I think Chief Leonardi and the police department has been courageous to go after this issue, ' Cannon said. 'Hopefully, they will rescue someone who may be involved in this against their will. And I think the men coming to these places need as much help as anyone. I think the 'johns' need sexual addiction treatment, and there are a whole set of dominos that fall. I want everyone to know that our community is committed to helping everyone involved in this mess. There is a lot of damage here, not just to the women and men involved, but to the families. '
The anonymous patron of the parlors said that he personally has little interest in pornography and doesn't see a necessary link. But he did acknowledge that he has an addiction and has suffered some damage from his habit.
'As a man, I think really I've been doing this so long it's almost to the point now where I'm at the end, ' he said. 'I don't want to do it anymore. But it's hurt me in developing really good, loving relationships with women. Even if I was married, if I had a girlfriend, I still might stray and do it. '
'I think what happens is we lose relationships, ' Cannon said. 'I think our friend here is trying to meet a deep human need and he has actually convinced himself he is helping by going to these places. But it's not true. He is rationalizing to try and make it fit. Like Facebook I have more friends on Facebook than I do in real life. But I don't know them. I am lonelier now than before Facebook ever came into existence. '
At any rate, the police sweeps are likely to continue. Sgt. Hoffman said that police have developed ways to successfully operate the stings and will continue to do so long as the problem of illicit massage parlors persists in Redondo Beach.
'Believe me, we have put a lot of thought into how we can approach this problem, so we can continue this operation in such a manner that we can identify any sort of illegal activity, ' Hoffman said. 'I am not going to disclose tactics. But if they chose to engage in illegal acts, they are taking a big chance, because we are going to do what we can to stop them. '
'If we take away the supply, ' Hoffman said, 'the demand is going to have to go somewhere else. '
Anonymous tips to the Police Department can be called in to (310) 937-6685, emailed to crimetipsatredondo. Org or sent via text message to (310) 339-2362. ER
I went to visit the local AMP. I was looking for a certain girl but the MMS said she was not there. I asked her if she knew where she was but she pushed me for one of the pretty girls there. I was going to leave but then she slipped me a piece of paper with an address, so I smiled at her and said thanks.
I went to the address on the paper. It was a Chiropractor office and it was totally dark. I walked around outside and was going to leave, but I just rang the bell for kicks, and the door opened and I was invited inside. I can see then they had covered the windows with black out curtains. I asked for the tech I wanted and the MMS said that she was there. BTW she was the only one working there.
I went to the room and got ready.
She came in soon and started the normal lame message. She told me that the MMS at the other place had called to tell her I was coming.
She did the back side, and then the flip. She took off all her little short dress and that was all that she had on. She did not ask me any questions but I guess she could see what I wanted.
She started with BBBJ with good DT action. She asked me if I wanted to CIM. But I said I wanted more.
She assumed the K9 position and told me to stand up. She put on the cover and I slipped inside her P, and was banging away. She did the reach around and I looked down and saw that she had her FIA (hers, not mine. I put my FIA too but she did not want that. She pushed me back and then guided me in and I had DIA!
I wanted to try her on top too, so I told her. I lay down and she put DIA again and rode like it like a Korean Cowgirl. It was pretty tight and this being new for me, I did not last too long.
She cleaned me up using alcohol and then I took a shower too. I gave her $.
Interesting experience!
Damn that was an ignorant statement by the policeman.
"If we bust these parlors the Johns will need to go elsewhere" or something on those lines.
That should seriously be an argument on why they should leave them open.
Society has historically proven that you can't prevent the sell of anything that someone is willing to sell and someonewants to buy.
What society has proven is that once you criminalize drugs, prostitution or even pirateing moves.
That the statistics of people getting caught doing those things goes up.
Hard to give any advice here, but its election time fellas. Not a good time to go. My guess is you have a much higher risk of getting caught in a sting now. Probably as high as 2% chance until after November.
The human trafficking statments are used to bunch everyone together. That is the topic no one can accept. Once you lump that in with MPs then you get more voters involved.
My knowledge of human trafficking is that most of it happens in rich peoples home as live in slave / mades. Those people not touched since I guess they don't get any complaints.
[QUOTE=Redon1; 1082008]I went to visit the local AMP. I was looking for a certain girl but the MMS said she was not there. I asked her if she knew where she was but she pushed me for one of the pretty girls there. I was going to leave but then she slipped me a piece of paper with an address, so I smiled at her and said thanks.
I went to the address on the paper. It was a Chiropractor office and it was totally dark. I walked around outside and was going to leave, but I just rang the bell for kicks, and the door opened and I was invited inside. I can see then they had covered the windows with black out curtains. I asked for the tech I wanted and the MMS said that she was there. BTW she was the only one working there.
I went to the room and got ready.
She came in soon and started the normal lame message. She told me that the MMS at the other place had called to tell her I was coming.
She did the back side, and then the flip. She took off all her little short dress and that was all that she had on. She did not ask me any questions but I guess she could see what I wanted.
She started with BBBJ with good DT action. She asked me if I wanted to CIM. But I said I wanted more.
She assumed the K9 position and told me to stand up. She put on the cover and I slipped inside her P, and was banging away. She did the reach around and I looked down and saw that she had her FIA (hers, not mine. I put my FIA too but she did not want that. She pushed me back and then guided me in and I had DIA!
I wanted to try her on top too, so I told her. I lay down and she put DIA again and rode like it like a Korean Cowgirl. It was pretty tight and this being new for me, I did not last too long.
She cleaned me up using alcohol and then I took a shower too. I gave her $.
Interesting experience! [/QUOTE]Rendon,
Do you mind PMing the contact info on your girl at the new place?
Is there a number I can call or would I have to do the step by step as you did?
Start at Ct in Carson and get the directions from the MMS.
[QUOTE=Pleaser09; 1083856]Rendon,
Do you mind PMing the contact info on your girl at the new place?
Is there a number I can call or would I have to do the step by step as you did? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Redon1; 1082008]I went to visit the local AMP. I was looking for a certain girl but the MMS said she was not there. I asked her if she knew where she was but she pushed me for one of the pretty girls there. I was going to leave but then she slipped me a piece of paper with an address, so I smiled at her and said thanks.
I went to the address on the paper. It was a Chiropractor office and it was totally dark. I walked around outside and was going to leave, but I just rang the bell for kicks, and the door opened and I was invited inside. I can see then they had covered the windows with black out curtains. I asked for the tech I wanted and the MMS said that she was there. BTW she was the only one working there.
I went to the room and got ready.
She came in soon and started the normal lame message. She told me that the MMS at the other place had called to tell her I was coming.
She did the back side, and then the flip. She took off all her little short dress and that was all that she had on. She did not ask me any questions but I guess she could see what I wanted.
She started with BBBJ with good DT action. She asked me if I wanted to CIM. But I said I wanted more.
She assumed the K9 position and told me to stand up. She put on the cover and I slipped inside her P, and was banging away. She did the reach around and I looked down and saw that she had her FIA (hers, not mine. I put my FIA too but she did not want that. She pushed me back and then guided me in and I had DIA!
I wanted to try her on top too, so I told her. I lay down and she put DIA again and rode like it like a Korean Cowgirl. It was pretty tight and this being new for me, I did not last too long.
She cleaned me up using alcohol and then I took a shower too. I gave her $.
Interesting experience! [/QUOTE]Do you mind saying the name of the girl you were asking for at CT?
[QUOTE=Baldy Cruiser; 1081313]Anyone ever get a 4 Hand Massage.
It would be fun to bang 2 girls, or get 4 hands on your cock for the tug.
Maybe finger bang one while the other is blowing you.
I did this once back in the early 80's at the Circus Maximus Massage Palace in West Hollywood.
Boy, those were the days. They had gorgeous white girls. All dressed in skimpy togas.
They advertised full page ads in the Lakers game program.
Bare back everything. This was before aids hit. Great times.
BALDY CRUISER. [/QUOTE]Hey, Baldy:
Been reading your posts forever. I remember Circus Maximus on and. La Cienega. Unreal place, lovely lasses. But I never got anything there, man, except blue balls. Maybe becuz I was like 17-18. Had better luck at a small place called Esther's Eden on Fairfax. Best sex education I ever had! Used my tuition money."726" mean anything to ya, oldtimer? Haven't been playing much in the last five years or so, but feelin' the itch, scanning CL and can still spot a joint w / pussy potential at a glance.
WOW! I'd completly forgotten about Circus! I never got there but I sure do rememeber the ads!
That's one of funny things about being one of the "Senior Members" here-educating the young'ins on the great pre-aides days and the fun that could be had. I love reading about the "hot" times some of these "newbies" are experiencing knowing they are no where near what was up for grabs a quarter cetury ago.
Anyone got a good deal on a time machine?
Anyone know where Laura / ono went to? She used to be at Ginza and then was
New total therapy in Hollywood. Anyone know where she headed to?
Would appreciate any info.
Thanks
The Rolling Hills Estates City Council is set to revoke the business permit held by Crystal Spa, 672B Silver Spur Road, at tonight's council meeting, according to the Daily Breeze.
The Chinese-owned and staffed AMP was busted in Oct.2009,"after a massage customer complained about hearing what sounded like sexual activity coming from another room." What an idiot!
Read the full story here: [url]http://bit.ly/9vVUNw[/url]
What do you think about going to a MP after it has been busted? I pass by Ocean every day in RB and it has been a long time since I went. I would be afraid the service would be poor because they are afraid I am LE. Anyone know what to do? Is it true that LE cannot touch the tech, so they will know I am not?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Redon1; 1090589]What do you think about going to a MP after it has been busted? I pass by Ocean every day in RB and it has been a long time since I went. I would be afraid the service would be poor because they are afraid I am LE. Anyone know what to do? Is it true that LE cannot touch the tech, so they will know I am not?
Thanks! [/QUOTE]Hey, Redon1, been a while, huh?
I've been to a couple parlors in Orange County after they were busted. I noticed they were leery of new customers.
I'm not entirely sure if LE is not supposed to touch the girl. I would think not. But what's to stop an officer from lieing in court? It's the officer's word against her's. Cops sometimes do shady things. I have a relative in law enforcement and a friend that works for LBPD, and they have both told me some stuff about what they've seen or heard about.
It's tough when you want to go into a parlor that has just been busted. You have to be the initiator. Or maybe the parlor is wary of new blood and is trying to feel you out.
At a well-reviewed parlor in Orange County, I was denied extras on 2 separate occasions. They hadn't been busted yet, but were very careful. I did all the things that guys do to let them know we want more than a plain old massage. I didn't put the towel on, complimented on the girl's looks, touched them a certain way when they're massaging you. But they wouldn't budge.
Just try your luck and go on in!
Anyway, have you been back to Sa-bai. I haven't seen Genie for a while now.
Any info on jasmine / nancy fellas?
Did they resurface anywhere?
Thanks
So are there any MP's left in the area? Or do I have to waste a tank of gas to go somewhere else?
[QUOTE=Mazda05; 1091763]Any info on jasmine / nancy fellas?
Did they resurface anywhere?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Does anyone know where these great providers went? Inglewood was like Disneyland to me fellas the happiest place on earth! Used to frequent to MP's more often than SW's or internet ladies, don't get me wrong you can still find some great action but what Mazda brings up and thats just two ladies. Well anyway Pm me if you have any luck! Mp's seem to be out of business these days or it just me? Let me know if I'm missing something here fellas okay
Good point Jonathan, I just recently found big ole butt Luna recently.
I've run thisthread before but have not generated the feedback I expected.
Hope I can this time.
Thanks
I saw the ad of this AMP on CL in Lomita last week so I went to give it a try. A very small place, I'd say probably 3 rooms only and one TS. I went in and handed. 4 to MMS for the door fee and one of the skinny girl (Chinese) named Emily handed me a questionairy form! I was like WTF. LOL. So I just made up everything LOL then got undressed faced down on the massage bed. Guess what? The MMS came in and started the service. * her face is 4, body 2, and werid laughing. The massage was so-so and a lot of teasing. Yeah I mean a lot to a point that it was getting pretty annoying. Then finally flipped over and start teasing (again!) with oil and start playing with the boys. Didn't take off anything but it's ok since I didn't want to see or touch her things anyways LOL. Finally the job is done and she just snatched the rest. 60 where it was placed on the top of my clothes and asked if that's her tips. What do you want me to say? LOL screw it. I just said ok and get dressed then head out. That Emily told me to come back and try another girl named Selena or something. The overall experience was poor consider I spent 1. 0 total. Oh well I need a release afterall and didn't want the FS anyways.