Strip Club Reports

To each his own, We never know what each provider does with each client when they do it or how they do it. All we can do is go about this hobby in the safest manner as possible. Condoms break nothing is fool proof but at the same time that doesn't mean to take unnecessary risks. I frequent cheaters as well as spas and traditional escorts and I must say for the most port the girls are on their p's and q's about safety. You may get higher mileage with repeat business but this must be within your comfort level some people have a problem with bbbj some do not. Everyone be safe get tested regularly and try to have fun.

Back before the law change Kat used to charge 150 for a bj and 200 for everything up in the curtain booths.

Since the private area has moved to downstairs I have heard many of the girls have tried to raise prices.

Kat was fun in the lap dance room.

Can we please get back to the point I raised? This was supposed to be a discussion about whether to pay up-front, and risk losing the $, or to insist on paying only after services have been rendered. Forget about the specific services-it makes no difference. The problem I was addressing was getting ripped off after a girl promises any service, but then gets you into the booth, takes your money, and then intentionally fails to deliver. How many hundreds have each of you lost as a result of this? Does this not present a troubling problem to anybody? Or do you like losing money as well as perpetuating the dishonest behavior? My suggestion was to simply refuse to play the rob game. The girls who are honest will continue to make money-in fact, much more money, because guys will gravitate towards them and away from the robs. The robs will then either be forced to mend their ways, or else go into a different biz where theivery and dishonesty are tolerated. The bottom line is, we, the paying customer, can simply put and end to this practice by refusing to pay up-front!

So, who's with me on this?! I, for one, am willing to let some gorgeous piece of ass walk, if she is not willing to accept payment after services are rendered, as is done in most other professions. When was the last time you paid your waitress up-front in a sit-down restaurant? Or you barber? Or you auto mechanic. Or you dentist. How many of you are willing to let that gorgeous piece of hot young ass walk, who is grabbing your dick and promising you the moon.

Anyone?

[QUOTE=Doctor Love]Can we please get back to the point I raised? This was supposed to be a discussion about whether to pay up-front, and risk losing the $, or to insist on paying only after services have been rendered. Forget about the specific services-it makes no difference.
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Actually I think it does make a huge difference Doc.

I honestly can't remember the last time I had a stripper ask me to pay them up front and this includes incidences where full service activities were about to occur. Then again, I can't recall ever asking a stripper to have bare-back sex with me. Coincidence? I think not!

Also, when it comes to CH you have to remember that you are really not dealing with dancers anymore, you are dealing with hookers and hookers always want the money up front...

FWIW, I'm with you, I never pay up front in strip clubs...

[QUOTE=Boston Guy 57]

FWIW, I'm with you, I never pay up front in strip clubs...[/QUOTE]Ok, we are making progress! Thanks for the moral support on that, dude!

Now I am interested in whether or not you are not alone in standing your ground, and not paying up-front! I really DO NOT think it has much to do with the type of service, when it comes to a rob! After all, if the girl is dishonest, it is all about extracting as much money from you as possible-services notwithstanding, right?! I, for one, have been ripped off in the past for BBBJs as well-I have pre-negotiated BBBJs, only to have the rob slap a rubber on me once I fork over the cash! In other clubs, I have had girls take my money, then proceed to excuse herself, leave the booth, go "for a smoke", or "go to pee" or whatever-and then not return till the booth time was up! And, among the many PMs I've gotten in response to this, many have told me that they have run into the same problem for many other types of "services". One gent said that a girl promised DFK. Then she took his money and-guess what-NO DFK! Am I to believe that these types of scenarios are rare? They are VERY common, in my experience, and that is exactly why these robs feel that they can get away with these tactics with impunity!

C'mon, dudes! I would bet the each and every one of you that has spent any significant amount of time in this hobby has had more than one similar expererince! If so, lets hear about them! And lets stand together on this! No more paying up front! No play, no pay! Period! We can do this!

Is this "paying up front" thing some kind of an anomaly among the indoor streetwalkers at Cheaters? In well over 20 years of clubbing I can count on one hand the number of times I've been asked to pay up front at a strip club. It just doesn't happen all that often.

[QUOTE=Boston Guy 57]Is this "paying up front" thing some kind of an anomaly among the indoor streetwalkers at Cheaters? In well over 20 years of clubbing I can count on one hand the number of times I've been asked to pay up front at a strip club. It just doesn't happen all that often.[/QUOTE]Maybe you are living in some parallel universe?! Any other ideas on this? Anyone? I have found that MOST Cheaters girls require payment upfront! Ditto for other clubs. I'm taliking about BOOTH services-NOT lapdances! C'mon dudes-please chime in on this! Am I really the only one that has to pay up front? Nobody else has run into robs?

[QUOTE=Doctor Love]Maybe you are living in some parallel universe?![/QUOTE]

Well, I club in Providence (though I don't go to CH anymore),do mostly booth dances and get extras and full service to varying degrees. The last time a dancer asked me for money up front was in Philly a few years ago if memory serves. Now, I don't approach a lot of new dancers, I stick with regs who have proven that they know what I want. I'm also not asking women to risk their lives by having sex with me.

You may not think that what you are asking these women to do has a bearing on your problem. I maintain that the type of service you are asking for is only going to be performed by desperate women of less than average intelligence who are more likely to want cash up front and more likely to try to rip you off. Simply put, that is what cheap dumb hookers do...

[QUOTE=Boston Guy 57]Is this "paying up front" thing some kind of an anomaly among the indoor streetwalkers at Cheaters? In well over 20 years of clubbing I can count on one hand the number of times I've been asked to pay up front at a strip club. It just doesn't happen all that often.[/QUOTE]It could be a Cheaters/RI thing. As I think back to my all-strip club days, I paid after in most strip clubs (other than 1's/5's on the rail) Maybe because the back room bouncer controlled the handstamps to get into the back? Most other strip clubs I went to, the girl took me to the private booth without a bouncer/doorman.

In most clubs when I went VIP/Champagne rooms I usually paid via cash or CC after.

On my one booth trip at Cheaters, I did pay all the fees up front so the gatekeeper gave me the stamp to back area. Luckily I got what I agreed/paid for.

[QUOTE=Boston Guy 57]Well, I club in Providence (though I don't go to CH anymore),do mostly booth dances and get extras and full service to varying degrees. The last time a dancer asked me for money up front was in Philly a few years ago if memory serves. Now, I don't approach a lot of new dancers, I stick with regs who have proven that they know what I want. I'm also not asking women to risk their lives by having sex with me.

You may not think that what you are asking these women to do has a bearing on your problem. I maintain that the type of service you are asking for is only going to be performed by desperate women of less than average intelligence who are more likely to want cash up front and more likely to try to rip you off. Simply put, that is what cheap dumb hookers do...[/QUOTE]You made your point (several times now). Now: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE besides Boston Guy 57 who has never (or rarely) been asked to pay for "standard" booth services (e.g., BBBJ, CFS) up front?

[QUOTE=Doctor Love]You made your point (several times now). Now: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE besides Boston Guy 57 who has never (or rarely) been asked to pay for "standard" booth services (e.g., BBBJ, CFS) up front?[/QUOTE]
I tend to see the more mature girls in CH so I never have a problem with them. I have been asked for the $ up front before but it is always the 'wanna dance' type or the younger girls. It seems that these are the ones that ask for a tip after also. I have also prenegotiated certain things beforehand and they were not delivered. I for the most part now stick with girls I know in this place. Every once in a while I will stray with something different but always put a fair amount of chat time in first. I have also gotten sick of a couple regulars.

[QUOTE=Swingin Boston]It could be a Cheaters/RI thing. As I think back to my all-strip club days, I paid after in most strip clubs (other than 1's/5's on the rail) Maybe because the back room bouncer controlled the handstamps to get into the back? Most other strip clubs I went to, the girl took me to the private booth without a bouncer/doorman.[/QUOTE]I guess I might have been a bit unclear, and/or several guys are discussing different aspects of "payment". Now, the few times I have been in "upscale" VIP rooms (i.e., NOT Cheaters!) I have been asked to pay up front for the use of the room or booth. But I will concede the point that I have not been in enough of these "upscale" places to make a valid comparison. In Cheaters-type establishments, however (i.e., in the grungy, seedy dives with which I am VERY familiar!) for example, in the old El Centro in Miami, MSC in SF in its hay-day, and most South Florida Cheetah clubs, I have ALWAYS been required to pay for the booth facilities up front (except at MSC, for a while, where they actually installed machines that one had to constantly feed dollar bills!)

But what I was talking about, and what my POINT was, is that, in my experience at least, whether or not a rubber was used either for BJ or FS, the VAST MAJORITY of girls at Cheaters and similar clubs insist on THEIR fee up-front (I'm NOT talking about booth fees/entrance fees here--I'm talking about the GIRL's service fee!) In previous years, before I learned to always pre-negotiate specific services, I used to just negotiate "blow job" or "full service" without going into specific details about whether a rubber would be required. EVEN THEN, MOST GIRLS INSISTED ON PAYMENT UP FRONT! And EVEN THEN, I was ripped off quite a few times and got NADA because of girls disappearing from the booth to pee, to smoke, etc, and did not return till the time was up. Or else they agreed to FS but then in the booth, refused to do anything except an air dance! It was the rule rather the exception to find a girl that was willing to accept payment for FS and/or BJ afterwards. And again, not all girls that insisted on payment upfront were ROBs. But of course, if they WERE ROBs, then by definition, they must have insisted on payment up front! And of course, we all know that it is standard practice to pay escorts up front, so lets not open THAT can of worms!

But lets just focus this discussion on Cheaters right now, OK, since, at least here in RI, that is where the primary ROB problem appears to be.

So here are the questions--consider it an informal poll, if you will--YES or NO questions, for guys with some experience with BJ and FS in the Cheaters booths:

(1) At Cheaters, are you usually asked to pay up front for the girl's services, for BJ or FS (if it is a girl that you have not been with yet)?

(2) At Cheaters, have you ever been RIPPED OFF by a girl that you paid up-front for a specific service, but she did not deliver?

C'mon, all you guys that I have discussed this with by PM! Chime in here! Lets get some info about how widespread this problem really is!

[QUOTE=Willy O]I have also prenegotiated certain things beforehand and they were not delivered. I for the most part now stick with girls I know in this place. Every once in a while I will stray with something different but always put a fair amount of chat time in first. I have also gotten sick of a couple regulars.[/QUOTE]I hear you, dude! Thanks for that report! We ALL seek the variety--some more so than others, or we wouldn't be here in the first place! And my POINT is, that if we just refused to pay up-front, our problems would be solved!

And you are right--in my experience, it is the younger girls that tend to be the ROBs--at a ratio of about 2 to 1 in my experience--the cut-off age for mostly honest, ROB-free service, appearing to me to be about age 40!

I can report that uniformly, when I pay up front, I have a less satisfactory experience at CD.

Yesterday, I tried 2 new to me girls, both prepays, and both disappointments.

Heidi, a new tall brunette with a German accent shut me down, no extas. Silly me.

Another drink and I hooked up with T******, 5'4 spinner with long brown hair and a barbell pierced tongue. Talking with me before she was all over me, including some LFK right at the bar. In the booth she hits me with the absurd upsell for CFS, so I go for the BJ, $$.5, I'm figuring BBBJ, with a mean lap dance, instead I get a CBJ with less mileage than I got on the barstool.

Oh well, live and learn.

Most clubs want the room fees up front. I understand DL that you are talking about the dancer's fee and not cover or club room fees when you discuss paying in advance.

I'm curious about one thing. If you see a dancer again after dealing with the pay-first situation does she ask you to pay up-front the next time?

[QUOTE=Boston Guy 57]I'm curious about one thing. If you see a dancer again after dealing with the pay-first situation does she ask you to pay up-front the next time?[/QUOTE]In general, as one might expect, when I have repeated with a girl they rarely ask for the cash up front. And although I really don't want this discussion to degenerate to a discussion on mainly escorts (wrong forum!), most escorts on repeat visits, in my experience, rarely, if ever ask for it up front. Of course, the very best of them don't ask on the first visit either, although it IS expected. And I know I'm not going to change the world-at least not all at once, LOL! Not to brag-but I do have a good deal of experience in this game, although the number of my posts don't reflect it. I've banged well over 300 working girls before I lost count, LOL!

Now, very often, with some of the girls I've repeated with at the PP, and who I know really well, I VOLUNTEER the cash upfront! The reason is simple: to get the transaction out of the way quickly, so that I don't have to struggle afterwards, during "clean-up", to pick thru my pockets and get out the cash in the dark booth-with only 15 minutes, I want to maximize my play-time, LOL!

I also don't want to confuse the issue here with girls' attempts to ask for tips vs. Upsell. Upsell means that you agree to a price UP FRONT, pay the negotiated price upfront, and then the girl ups the ante for a specific service that was pre-negotiated at the lower rate. But when they subtly hint (or even outright ask for) "giving them a tip" for the aforementioned service, but DO provide it, and rely on your discretion for the tip, I do not consider that upsell. After all, ALL of these girls are all about the money-even the stellar GFE/PSE performers who might actually enjoy their work. (Many of us enjoy our work-but that does NOT mean we will work for nothing or for unfair or inadequate remuneration! We ALL have to pay the bills!) Nor would I consider it upsell if you pre-negotiate specific services, but then the girl offers OTHER services for an increased rate-whether or not paying upfront for the services that had been prenegotiated. For example, if you pre-pay 100 for FS, and while the girl is bent over with your dick in her c*nt, and then she tells you that you can also fuck her ass for an extra 50, thats NOT upsell! Thats just "expanding the menu", LOL!

Mainly, the problem I am addressing here are bona fide, out-and-out ROBs! (I guess identifying a ROB is a bit like the problem that the "mainstream" folks have in identifying pornography-its hard to define, but they know it when they see it, LOL! But in our case, I think its much more straightforward: If a girl promises a service-ANY service, and you pre-pay for THAT service and they do not provide it-well, that is the definition a ROB! Plain and simple!

So again, my solution to this: ALWAYS negotiate up front, but NEVER pay up front with a girl in a stripclub that you don't know! And if they rip you off, make it known to everybody! As I said, if you want my Cheaters ROB list, send me a PM! There two girls still there that have ripped me off (many more that are now gone). I HAVE noticed that the ROBs rarely last very long. And in all fairness, most of the girls at Cheaters are NOT ROBs! Many-perhaps most-provide shitty service and its often hard to find what you are looking for-but most of those girls, in my experience are honest during pre-negotiations and will decline to provide the service rather than lie to you. But its those bad appples-maybe 5-10%-that fuck things up for all the rest! But at a minimum of 145 per booth session, thats a LOT of cash to lose!

[QUOTE=Bigrig28]I can report that uniformly, when I pay up front, I have a less satisfactory experience at CD.

Yesterday, I tried 2 new to me girls, both prepays, and both disappointments.

Heidi, a new tall brunette with a German accent shut me down, no extas. Silly me.

Another drink and I hooked up with T******, 5'4 spinner with long brown hair and a barbell pierced tongue. Talking with me before she was all over me, including some LFK right at the bar. In the booth she hits me with the absurd upsell for CFS, so I go for the BJ, $$.5, I'm figuring BBBJ, with a mean lap dance, instead I get a CBJ with less mileage than I got on the barstool.

Oh well, live and learn.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I would consider this ROB behavior--as I assume that you did not pre-negotiate the specific services. (See my other post today for more details on this.) But, while not blatently dishonest, it does provide yet another very important reason for NOT paying up-front-- and also, another reason for ALWAYS pre-negotiating ALL services!

Has anyone been to this place in Woonsocket? I thought I had frequented most of the establishments in the state but have never heard of this one until now. Did some digging around and found a ******* page with some of their Ladies on it, pretty impressive. Was wondering if anyone has been recently and whether its to good to be true.

[url]www.dollhouseri.com[/url]

[url]www.*******.com/dollhouseri[/url]

[QUOTE=William Zelweg]Has anyone been to this place in Woonsocket? I thought I had frequented most of the establishments in the state but have never heard of this one until now. Did some digging around and found a ******* page with some of their Ladies on it, pretty impressive. Was wondering if anyone has been recently and whether its to good to be true.

[url]www.dollhouseri.com[/url]

[url]www.*******.com/dollhouseri[/url][/QUOTE]


I believe this is the Old "K2" strip club there on front street in Woony! I have not been therre in many years but I have driven by recently and the building was all redone. I didnt notice the name change though. There is also a club in Cumberland, use to be called Micky's. Have not been there in years and I live pretty close to that one!

[QUOTE=William Zelweg]Has anyone been to this place in Woonsocket? I thought I had frequented most of the establishments in the state but have never heard of this one until now. Did some digging around and found a ******* page with some of their Ladies on it, pretty impressive. Was wondering if anyone has been recently and whether its to good to be true.

[url]www.dollhouseri.com[/url]

[url]www.*******.com/dollhouseri[/url][/QUOTE]I was there a few weeks ago. It is the old K2U. The dancers I saw were all in the 6 to 8 range (at least by my tastes). The one I talked to said she worked there because she didn't like the amount of contact in Providence clubs. I nevertheless bought a private dance and found out she was telling the truth; the contact is less than at any PVD club I frequent. On the plus side, the atmosphere seemed more conversational than in most clubs, and on Tuesdays and Wednesdays dance prices are occasionally discounted. (Check the "events" tab of their webside.)

For me, it wasn't worth a return trip, but not a total loss, either.

As for Mickey's it's still in the same place, advertising as New England's Oldest Strip Club, and with the original dancers to prove it.

A few nights ago after work, having some freedom, decided to stop in at Desires. I hadn't been there is years. The place was pretty busy, girls were pretty and pleasant.

After siting there for awhile a heavy(ish) blonde comes up and starts chatting me up. Can't remember names very well..lets just say she had somewhat of a southern accent. We went through the pricing for the dances and, as always first time through, I opted for the cheaper ones in the open area.

Well...suffice it to say, I could have danced with myself better..the only really benefit was playing with her abundant boobs. At the same time she didn't push anything or stall....when the 1st song was done she got up and thanked me......mmmmm. Maybe I was too old for her.

Then a younger spiner came by, turns out iy was her very first day.....had 3 dances from her, touching alowed everywhere. Sorry guys, but as I said I suffer from CRS (can't remember shit).

But overall, I wasn't too thrilled.

[QUOTE=Boston PA]IAs for Mickey's it's still in the same place, advertising as New England's Oldest Strip Club, and with the original dancers to prove it.[/QUOTE]


LMAO.....I remember going to Mickeys about 25 years ago when I was a much younger man. It was for a bachelor party and even though I have always lived close to it I had never been. I distinctly remember the dancers they had there and it still brings shivers to my spine (bad ones) One who's body is still etched in the darkest scariest part of my brain must have been in her mid to late forties, stretch marks everywhere and the pancake type super saggy breast with NatGeo nipples....OMG she scared the life out of us young bucks! Funny thing was after we all got several drinks in us we had more fun laughing at her then anything....We ended getting kicked out of there for acting like complete jerks.....Ahhhhh the good ole days!!!

[QUOTE=Muffythediver]LMAO. I remember going to Mickeys about 25 years ago when I was a much younger man. It was for a bachelor party and even though I have always lived close to it I had never been. I distinctly remember the dancers they had there and it still brings shivers to my spine (bad ones) One who's body is still etched in the darkest scariest part of my brain must have been in her mid to late forties, stretch marks everywhere and the pancake type super saggy breast with NatGeo nipples. OMG she scared the life out of us young bucks! Funny thing was after we all got several drinks in us we had more fun laughing at her then anything. We ended getting kicked out of there for acting like complete jerks. Ahhhhh the good ole days![/QUOTE]When I was a kid, my father and other older male family members spoke of that club as the FEI club (2 points for anyone who remembers what FEI stood for). It was the original drag club, as I was told. I'll bet that liquor license has been out since the 30's.

I was at Cheaters yesterday from 4:30 pm to about 7:30 pm yesterday. The place was crowded. There were plenty of girls also. It might be because the football season has started. I had a pretty good experience - went for a lapdance with 6 grils. In particular one girl had a huge butt and went for some dances with her. I tried to negotiate and went for multiple songs. All in all a good experience. Was offered extras but was not interested.

[QUOTE=Doctor Love]So here are the questions--consider it an informal poll, if you will--YES or NO questions, for guys with some experience with BJ and FS in the Cheaters booths:

(1) At Cheaters, are you usually asked to pay up front for the girl's services, for BJ or FS (if it is a girl that you have not been with yet)?

(2) At Cheaters, have you ever been RIPPED OFF by a girl that you paid up-front for a specific service, but she did not deliver?

C'mon, all you guys that I have discussed this with by PM! Chime in here! Lets get some info about how widespread this problem really is![/QUOTE]But really... if you didn't pay on the way out, how well would that work out for you? Yeah, you'd be bounced, and it wouldn't be a friendly escort to the door with a "see you next time"! Even if you refused to pay for bad service, how far would that get you.

I have always been asked to pay up front (new girl everytime) -- I consider it the thrill of the game, if she stiffs me (in the bad way), oh well - what choice do I have.

For the record, FS at CH has always ranged from $1.6 - $$. I've managed 1 CBJ there for $1+door.

Seriously, someone answer me, what choice do I have?

[QUOTE=Fast Fill 1965]Had not hit Cadillac Lounge in a while so stoped by the other night. Came across a dancer that struck my fancy. She was heavly tattooed and belive her name was Kat. She did give me the impression that everything was offered in the private rooms. But price was 100.00 to house & 300.00 to her for 30 minutes. Seemed real pricey, so passed. But she did seem pretty down to earth and fun. Anyone had luck with her? You can post here or pm me if needed.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I have been on a temp assignment to the south - and relegated to Backpage girls. Last time I was at CL, they took down the curtains. Are they back up?

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Katoeymonger]I have been on a temp assignment to the south - and relegated to Backpage girls. Last time I was at CL, they took down the curtains. Are they back up?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Curtains are still down upstairs. If anyone is doing anything it is in the rooms downstairs that still have curtains.Since the rooms are a little more expensive for more time, some of the dancers have been pushing the prices back up a little.

It is easier to tell what girls do what by watching who goes upstairs to dance and who goes downstairs

[QUOTE=Dogma Blade]Curtains are still down upstairs. If anyone is doing anything it is in the rooms downstairs that still have curtains.Since the rooms are a little more expensive for more time, some of the dancers have been pushing the prices back up a little.

It is easier to tell what girls do what by watching who goes upstairs to dance and who goes downstairs[/QUOTE]Girls are really pushing the prices up at the CL, going past my zone of indifference, so I have been staying away. The curtains are still in place downstairs and some of the girls still have much on offer, others however will tell you that everything is on the menu, but when you get in there, the story changes to almost nothing is on the menu. I got caught on this twice, so I am out of there for a while! Have had better success at CD, so have been hanging there lately. Also went back to PP a few times, but nothing of interest, most of the girls are pretty ugly and the place is still really dirty.

Went to CL around 10PM. Saw some Brazilian dancers who are very exotic. But I ended up to take a dance from a girl called Tiffany. I had heard someone else mentioned she does more than just dance.

Got her digits and set up a meeting that night.

It turned out to be an excellent experience. She is blonde and buxom with bubbling personality and muscle contracting power.

She used to do escort in DC area and CT.

Sorry for the late report but was in PVD last week. Had a rental car and went to PP as I knew how to get there and easy parking. If parking is easy elsewhere, let me know

Best quality dancer was a solid 5, ughhh. Had a few dances, takeout was easily available between $200-300. Had one dancer who starts working the goods and when I asked if she could get in trouble, she says only if she gets caught.

Another offered me a hj in the corner where she said it was dark and private. Didnt partake, but word of caution if its wet over there

Have fun guys,

[QUOTE=NY Monger]Sorry for the late report but was in PVD last week. Had a rental car and went to PP as I knew how to get there and easy parking. If parking is easy elsewhere, let me know

Have fun guys,[/QUOTE]This is Providence; you're not going to have trouble parking at any of the clubs.

[QUOTE=Nite Crush]Went to CL around 10PM. Saw some Brazilian dancers who are very exotic. But I ended up to take a dance from a girl called Tiffany. I had heard someone else mentioned she does more than just dance.

Got her digits and set up a meeting that night.

It turned out to be an excellent experience. She is blonde and buxom with bubbling personality and muscle contracting power.

She used to do escort in DC area and CT.[/QUOTE]What is your $$ ?

Had the day off work on Tuesday and decided to take the drive down from MA and hit a club or two. I don't go to PP anymore, and have never had fun a CL, so CF was all that came to mind, even though I'd be willing to try CL again sometime based on the reports of the Brazilians there. I don't go to a club for FS, i do like to have some contact fun though.

I was pleasantly surprised to to find that starting this week m-f noon-6pm is 2 for 1 dances all week long!! I normally only go to CF on Sunday evenings for the discount but this opens up more opportunities to have some contact fun. No mention of this being just for a few weeks, seems like the economy must be affecting them, the girls I spoke to didn't like it much though.

Quality of the dancers on the day shift was never above 7, but brazilians are my thing and it didnt take long for one to find me ;) B***** was her name and i ended up taking 2 sets of the 2for1s with her, would have done more but her contact was fairly aggressive and i didnt last longer than 4 dances , oops. Good thing i always have a towel in car with me. Nice figure, great legs but fake t!ts was a little disappointing.

A short report on my trip to CF last saturday evening. This place was almost empty just a couple of of girls and about 5-6 patrons. Waited for about 20 minutes and then left for an AMP. This is my second visit to this club, both on saturdays, and during both the visits there were very few girls. Looks like saturday is a bad day to visit.

Just saw on there web site a new cabaret section down stairs. Back at there old location a long time ago, they had an area off to the side. It had a bunch of sofa's and sofa type chairs in a circle. Three or four girls would go around and around grinding for dollars. Was wondering if the new section was anything like the old. It was a great dollar deal for both the gal and the patron.

[QUOTE=Pnil99]What is your $$ ?[/QUOTE]$2 for FS. Outcall.

[QUOTE=HappyDave]Just saw on there web site a new cabaret section down stairs. Back at there old location a long time ago, they had an area off to the side. It had a bunch of sofa's and sofa type chairs in a circle. Three or four girls would go around and around grinding for dollars. Was wondering if the new section was anything like the old. It was a great dollar deal for both the gal and the patron.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, it's not like the cabaret area of the old place. There are about 4 or 5 nice big leather chairs between the main downstairs bar and the stage. When I was briefly there none of the girls were visiting the area. I'm guessing that the days of the $2 cabaret are just not worth it to these girls, they'd rather make zero.

[QUOTE=Ss Monger]Unfortunately, it's not like the cabaret area of the old place. There are about 4 or 5 nice big leather chairs between the main downstairs bar and the stage. When I was briefly there none of the girls were visiting the area. I'm guessing that the days of the $2 cabaret are just not worth it to these girls, they'd rather make zero.[/QUOTE]

Just so happened your reply arrived on my phone just as I pulled in the parking lot. Mid day today the place was dead and except for a couple of gals the rest were fat and ugly. Strange had been there same time during a week day many times and better gals were always to be found.

The new cabaret section is a joke. They basically just put sofa like chairs at both ends of the main stage and took all the table and chairs away.

Did not get one cabaret, couple of ugly gals looking for a dance did sit on the arms to chat.

I miss the chairs since the gals would sit on your lap and actually straddle you. Not long ago they would hustle for dollar dances at the tables then management stopped it. Put a sign in the women's room to keep there buts on the stage. Only dollar dances allowed at that point were up stairs.

I sure do miss the CF of old with a bunch of gals making there way around in a circle. Best bang for the buck.

One of the only hot looking gals asked me if I wanted 20 minutes up stairs for $135.00 (plus tip I am sure) I said no then went to Far East for a full hour with a K gal and paid only $120.00 including tip.

[QUOTE=Ss Monger]Unfortunately, it's not like the cabaret area of the old place. There are about 4 or 5 nice big leather chairs between the main downstairs bar and the stage. When I was briefly there none of the girls were visiting the area. I'm guessing that the days of the $2 cabaret are just not worth it to these girls, they'd rather make zero.[/QUOTE]

Cabarets are MUCH better upstairs (of course you have to fork over the extra $5) Never saw that going on downstairs.

[QUOTE=Bubba261]Cabarets are MUCH better upstairs (of course you have to fork over the extra $5) Never saw that going on downstairs.[/QUOTE]

The cabarets were common for a while after CF moved to the new location.

Up stairs at CF during the week days is free they start charging around 2:00 to 5:00 the times seem to be changing a bit. I have found during Sunday they close the second floor.

Even PP had some decent cabaret activity at the tables and chairs overlooking the main stage. The gals use to make there way up and down sampling the goods and trying to hustle a privet dance.

If you played your cards right a gal would spend almost a full song trying to sell you and for the cost of a tip you got almost a full dance.

If you figure a simple rub and tug at Lily is $100.00 even. A three minute privet topless only dance is $25.00 plus a $5.00 tip. The dances are not such a great deal.