Sugar Daddy & Other Related Websites

[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;5197855]Interesting with only one post here you leave such a glowing review of a specific site with actually no specifics except for you bragging. Yes SA can yield results and I do use it often. But reality is you will pay on average 300-400 for a date and you have to host or provide a room. There are tons off scams. So you have to weed through that. There are women who have no idea that they will be expected to put out. There are women who are just looking to have their ego groomed with no intent to meet. There are women who expect 1000+ per date. There are scams who want you to wire them money. And yes if you make it through all of that, there are women who will give you BBFS. I have dates ranging from 200 to 450. I have been burned a few times. But I get wiser and play the long game. But my skeptical hat off to you for being so successful and resourcefull in only one weekend.[/QUOTE]If it was me at that age and had any game at all, I'd be ashamed. Now, I'm in Medicare but I have done several of those 19 and 20 YO girls too. LOL. It's my kink to have younguns, it's their kink to have a 'daddy'. That's one important part of the dynamic on SA.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5199982]If it was me at that age and had any game at all, I'd be ashamed. Now, I'm in Medicare but I have done several of those 19 and 20 YO girls too. LOL. It's my kink to have younguns, it's their kink to have a 'daddy'. That's one important part of the dynamic on SA.[/QUOTE]Hahaha shots fired, well it all depends on the circumstances of course. With covid it's a bit hard to go out to go and party / go clubbing not to mention that this all takes hours and hours of time with no guarantee of getting any action. I'm way too busy to go through spending all that time with no guaranteed results so the premium of a sugar baby is worth it. SA vs vanilla hooking up to me is like ordering DoorDash vs going out catching your own fish, gutting it, cleaning it, and frying it -the former is way more convenient and saves so much time there's a buffet of young hot girls way out of my league just waiting to have a good time.

The best thing about SA I noticed is although you have to deal with some people leaving you on read or wanting absurdly high PPM, scammers, etc like everyone else mentioned you just next them and keep moving on and after sending maybe 10 messages within a couple of hours you can find at least 2-3 good ones who are down to meet up the same / next day so it's addicting instant gratification.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/98880570-7e81-4f5a-b660-e429603fe274[/URL]

Met this one up for hot times last night. Damage was three benjis. Picked her up from her house and parked my range rover in a park before we went at it. Hung out from like 9 PM-3 AM. It was even more wild than my last experience as soon as I gave her the cash she just yanked my pants down and went to town on a sloppy wet BBBJ. She did that for a solid 15 minutes and it took everything in me to not just explode in her little mouth. She then got on top of me and started riding me uncovered, she had told me in advance that she had test results and she did not want to get fucked with a condom on because she said it ruins the sensation. I happily obliged and let her ride me uncovered, she was a real freak holding the back of my head screaming out "papi" and all kinds of shit in Spanish. We hit it in doggy and then mish after, during mish I just couldn't take it anymore and just dumped my load in her tight little pussy.

Quickly realized that was a fuck up as she told me she wasn't on BC and she was planning on swallowing my cum and not taking a load up her so we frantically drove around trying to find a 24/7 CVS so I could get her plan B. Once that was settled we found another spot and agreed that I would give her a chance to taste my cum so then went for round 2 more BBBJ and CG she is like a fuck machine and just pumps your cock raw. This time I knew I wasn't going to dump my second load in her pussy so I pulled her off right before I was about to splooge and pulled her by her hair onto my cock and she sucked me super sloppy spit flying everywhere stroking my cock and just full on swishing my balls with her tongue before going back onto the shaft and deep throating me no hands until CIM. I came way harder the second time around right into her waiting mouth and tongue. She didn't immediately swallow, once I finished cumming in her mouth she sat up and scooted up right onto my chest / arm looking up before gargling "look daddy" and slowly pushing the cum out of her mouth to where it flowed a bit out of her mouth past her lips until she sucked it all right back and swallowed it, proudly opening her mouth right after and sticking her tongue out with not a drip still in there.

[QUOTE=DerekDaKid;5201444][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/98880570-7e81-4f5a-b660-e429603fe274[/URL]

Met this one up for hot times last night. Damage was three benjis. Picked her up from her house and parked my range rover in a park before we went at it. Hung out from like 9 PM-3 AM. It was even more wild than my last experience as soon as I gave her the cash she just yanked my pants down and went to town on a sloppy wet BBBJ. She did that for a solid 15 minutes and it took everything in me to not just explode in her little mouth. She then got on top of me and started riding me uncovered, she had told me in advance that she had test results and she did not want to get fucked with a condom on because she said it ruins the sensation. I happily obliged and let her ride me uncovered, she was a real freak holding the back of my head screaming out "papi" and all kinds of shit in Spanish. We hit it in doggy and then mish after, during mish I just couldn't take it anymore and just dumped my load in her tight little pussy.

Quickly realized that was a fuck up as she told me she wasn't on BC and she was planning on swallowing my cum and not taking a load up her so we frantically drove around trying to find a 24/7 CVS so I could get her plan B. Once that was settled we found another spot and agreed that I would give her a chance to taste my cum so then went for round 2 more BBBJ and CG she is like a fuck machine and just pumps your cock raw. This time I knew I wasn't going to dump my second load in her pussy so I pulled her off right before I was about to splooge and pulled her by her hair onto my cock and she sucked me super sloppy spit flying everywhere stroking my cock and just full on swishing my balls with her tongue before going back onto the shaft and deep throating me no hands until CIM. I came way harder the second time around right into her waiting mouth and tongue. She didn't immediately swallow, once I finished cumming in her mouth she sat up and scooted up right onto my chest / arm looking up before gargling "look daddy" and slowly pushing the cum out of her mouth to where it flowed a bit out of her mouth past her lips until she sucked it all right back and swallowed it, proudly opening her mouth right after and sticking her tongue out with not a drip still in there.

She cuddled and just chilled for a bit chatting about what her past experiences on the site were like and how by pure coincidence how we both ended up both knowing two girls that I had met through tinder years ago.

With that being said YMMV she said she absolutely hates older white men and always blocks them immediately upon seeing their picture.[/QUOTE]Damn that is what I call a report. I chat with her through an app, but never set anything up as she was vague on her expectations. I prefer women that know what they want even though it might be out of my price range. She has a phat booty and shares vids of her 420 all day, everyday. I might have to hit her up one day. I love CIP and when it gets wet and wild hard to pull out. I'll have to see if she wants to do a hotel since the car / truck seems kind of risky and don't want my vehicle smelling like perfume and badussy.

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5202278]Damn that is what I call a report. I chat with her through an app, but never set anything up as she was vague on her expectations. I prefer women that know what they want even though it might be out of my price range. She has a phat booty and shares vids of her 420 all day, everyday. I might have to hit her up one day. I love CIP and when it gets wet and wild hard to pull out. I'll have to see if she wants to do a hotel since the car / truck seems kind of risky and don't want my vehicle smelling like perfume and badussy.[/QUOTE]Haha you have her on Snapchat too? I find it odd that's what you think about her as she was very direct when I first spoke to her over the phone about wanting bare cock and one of the first things she asked me when we met up was where we were going to fuck.

Signed up in seeking 3 days back.

Saw this last night [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3090774b-0060-4871-a2ac-d65422e31706[/URL].

2 hours for 3 benjies. OK time.

No great time. All covered.

She is bit germophobic so any kissing or oral not allowed.

She looks better than her pics though.

Good to talk to though.

I was expecting better but may be next one.

[QUOTE=DRaj123;5202858]Signed up in seeking 3 days back.

Saw this last night [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3090774b-0060-4871-a2ac-d65422e31706[/URL].

2 hours for 3 benjies. OK time.

No great time. All covered.

She is bit germophobic so any kissing or oral not allowed.

She looks better than her pics though.

Good to talk to though.

I was expecting better but may be next one.[/QUOTE]You got what I'd call a UTR escort. A real sugar baby doesn't have a menu or a time limit. You can do so much better. Hold your fire.

[QUOTE=DerekDaKid;5201395]Hahaha shots fired, well it all depends on the circumstances of course. With covid it's a bit hard to go out to go and party / go clubbing not to mention that this all takes hours and hours of time with no guarantee of getting any action. I'm way too busy to go through spending all that time with no guaranteed results so the premium of a sugar baby is worth it. SA vs vanilla hooking up to me is like ordering DoorDash vs going out catching your own fish, gutting it, cleaning it, and frying it -the former is way more convenient and saves so much time there's a buffet of young hot girls way out of my league just waiting to have a good time.

The best thing about SA I noticed is although you have to deal with some people leaving you on read or wanting absurdly high PPM, scammers, etc like everyone else mentioned you just next them and keep moving on and after sending maybe 10 messages within a couple of hours you can find at least 2-3 good ones who are down to meet up the same / next day so it's addicting instant gratification.[/QUOTE]She looks good as hell. She's definitely right up my alley.

[QUOTE=DRaj123;5202858]Signed up in seeking 3 days back.

Saw this last night [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3090774b-0060-4871-a2ac-d65422e31706[/URL].

2 hours for 3 benjies. OK time.

No great time. All covered.

She is bit germophobic so any kissing or oral not allowed.

She looks better than her pics though.

Good to talk to though.

I was expecting better but may be next one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5203386]You got what I'd call a UTR escort. A real sugar baby doesn't have a menu or a time limit. You can do so much better. Hold your fire.[/QUOTE]Meh. If the girls sell / rent their coochie for cash, regardless of the time limit, they're hookers. I know we like to pretend it's not the same thing, but it is. You have a naive hooker on your hands and should enjoy it while you can. I agree you should shop around for the best option, though.

I'd submit that a "real" (if you want to call it that) sugar baby is one that you're keeping exclusively set up and paying her living expenses. But even then, they're still a well-kept hooker.

[QUOTE=DRaj123;5202858]Signed up in seeking 3 days back.

Saw this last night [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3090774b-0060-4871-a2ac-d65422e31706[/URL].

2 hours for 3 benjies. OK time.

No great time. All covered.

She is bit germophobic so any kissing or oral not allowed.

She looks better than her pics though.

Good to talk to though.

I was expecting better but may be next one.[/QUOTE]"Someone who is not looking for an escort and can afford a sugar baby. You get all my loving baby".

I bet she said that to you, and her 12 other sugar daddies. You are all exclusively fucking a sugar baby and not an escort LOL.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5204307]Meh. If the girls sell / rent their coochie for cash, regardless of the time limit, they're hookers. I know we like to pretend it's not the same thing, but it is. You have a naive hooker on your hands and should enjoy it while you can. I agree you should shop around for the best option, though.

I'd submit that a "real" (if you want to call it that) sugar baby is one that you're keeping exclusively set up and paying her living expenses. But even then, they're still a well-kept hooker.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls asking for 500 ppm.

Most of the pics are misleading.

I hunt for beautiful girls only and difficult to find.

Also I am looking for ppm not allowances as I don't repeat girls usually.

[QUOTE=DRaj123;5204695]Most of the girls asking for 500 ppm.

Most of the pics are misleading.

I hunt for beautiful girls only and difficult to find.

Also I am looking for ppm not allowances as I don't repeat girls usually.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls are basically whoring their body. In one way or another but they want to feel good hence are in seeking.

I totally understand this and I am not mistaken about this fancy term sugar baby.

[QUOTE=DerekDaKid;5197418]Signed up for SA on Monday of this week and by this Sunday I had already fucked the shit out of two chicks and met about four different ones. Loving the sheer number of options on this site as well as the PSE level treatment I've been getting at rates I would normally pay for escorts.

Chick #1 - 22 why / o Hispanic Chick 5'7 (7/10).

Indicated she was looking for fun on her profile. Promptly messaged her regarding a PPM arrangement. She very quickly responded saying she was indeed interested. Exchanged numbers and shared photos. After seeing my photos she quickly called me handsome and called me twice getting me to agree to a meet the same night and I agreed after my other much hotter POTs were unavailable.

Met up at the mall and she very quickly took the PPM ($300) and sucked / fucked me in the parking lot in the back of my car. Everything covered so it was lame. Had her ride me and suck me with a condom on, finished in her mouth with a condom on. Forgettable experience. She left after I came to "take care of her child". I blocked her as she was not only on the lower end (maybe a 6. 5-7) but she just left and wasn't honest about her intentions of leaving and not coming back. First bang off SA I'd give it a solid 5/10.

Chick #2 - 22 why / o POT (8. 5/10) Hispanic.

Met up for a M&G at night no compensation, smoked a joint with her and spit some game at her. She really enjoyed my company and hung out with me for about 4 hours until I called the night announcing I was leaving. Had to flake on her because I met a much younger and hotter chick, might bang later.[/QUOTE]Still in the sharing mode, I'm going to share this one this is chick #3.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f9f690d2-edd9-41a0-b2cb-c23cfff90324[/URL]

[QUOTE=DerekDaKid;5205340]Still in the sharing mode, I'm going to share this one this is chick #3.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f9f690d2-edd9-41a0-b2cb-c23cfff90324[/URL][/QUOTE]Have you tried babies up there? Some have agreed to travel to Oceanside. Anyone try Tijuana sugar babies? I've get to hear a success story in tj.

[QUOTE=HelloYouAre;5206983]Have you tried babies up there? Some have agreed to travel to Oceanside. Anyone try Tijuana sugar babies? I've get to hear a success story in tj.[/QUOTE]I have a POT in the Valley I have yet to meet up with, also some POTs in TJ but seems language barrier is real with them.

[QUOTE=DerekDaKid;5205340]Still in the sharing mode, I'm going to share this one this is chick #3.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f9f690d2-edd9-41a0-b2cb-c23cfff90324[/URL][/QUOTE]Given that it is closed to Mexicans during the pandemic?

Beginning to jingle my spidey sense.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5207083]Given that it is closed to Mexicans during the pandemic?

Beginning to jingle my spidey sense.[/QUOTE]The border is open, it's just taking a long time to cross. Someone passed away while waiting to cross back in the summer.

Do people actually pay $1000 a week for a once weekly online only arrangement? Or pay to be financially dominated? I've seen some interestign profiles on here. I got a message from an 19 why / o chick, not really even that good looking, claiming how she's had like 6 SDs in the past, it was all online arrangments only, they paid her at least $1000 a week (some more), in exchange they would give her mentorship.

I'm assuming no guys are that dumb, but I figure there's got to be some if the girls are trying such things.

And to the person that said everything is negotiable, definitely found that to be true. Got one girl down from 500 to 150 extremely easily. Wish I had started at $100. Kinda cute, but I ended up not doing it because her time inbetween messages was pretty poor, so it wouldn't surprise me if she would've not shown up at the hotel because I think she was shopping around inbetween texting me.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5207083]Given that it is closed to Mexicans during the pandemic?

Beginning to jingle my spidey sense.[/QUOTE]She didn't cross the border idk why her location says Mexico. I met up her in Imperial Beach.

[QUOTE=RyanE36;5207832]Do people actually pay $1000 a week for a once weekly online only arrangement? Or pay to be financially dominated? I've seen some interestign profiles on here. I got a message from an 19 why / o chick, not really even that good looking, claiming how she's had like 6 SDs in the past, it was all online arrangments only, they paid her at least $1000 a week (some more), in exchange they would give her mentorship.

I'm assuming no guys are that dumb, but I figure there's got to be some if the girls are trying such things.

And to the person that said everything is negotiable, definitely found that to be true. Got one girl down from 500 to 150 extremely easily. Wish I had started at $100. Kinda cute, but I ended up not doing it because her time inbetween messages was pretty poor, so it wouldn't surprise me if she would've not shown up at the hotel because I think she was shopping around inbetween texting me.[/QUOTE]That online arrangements is a bunch of bullshit she's obviously a scammer or finesser. There are some older guys who do fall for that but you have to be really simpy and creepy to need that. Ever heard of David from 90 day fiance? Prime example of the simps who fall for it.

[QUOTE=KingBaby;5207821]The border is open, it's just taking a long time to cross. Someone passed away while waiting to cross back in the summer.[/QUOTE]Border closed to all but essential traffic.

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2021/01/14/us-canada-border-us-mexico-border-closures-extended-through-february/4156343001/[/URL]

And Mexicans have to be far more "essential" than US citizens.

[QUOTE=RyanE36;5207832]Do people actually pay $1000 a week for a once weekly online only arrangement? [/QUOTE]I usually don't talk to these types. But whenever I have, they have ALWAYS claimed that they had previous SDs who had no problems in giving them mucho $$ per week for no sugar, etc etc.

I quickly concluded two things:

1. This story line has to be part of a playbook they are following. It is too standard to be otherwise.

2. The intention is somewhat obvious. It is to make you feel that this is normal and reasonable, that you aren't a player unless you can afford this.

I usually tell these women that it is wonderful that they had such success, and wish them best of luck getting back with their previous paypigs, because they might regret letting them go.

100% Agree. No point in continuing the conversation. I will usually tell them politely best of luck in their search and mark their profile as a no and move on. Dosent meet if real or not but no amount of negotiation is going to bridge the gap between 1000 and reasonable.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5208128]I usually don't talk to these types. But whenever I have, they have ALWAYS claimed that they had previous SDs who had no problems in giving them mucho $$ per week for no sugar, etc etc.

I quickly concluded two things:

1. This story line has to be part of a playbook they are following. It is too standard to be otherwise.

2. The intention is somewhat obvious. It is to make you feel that this is normal and reasonable, that you aren't a player unless you can afford this.

I usually tell these women that it is wonderful that they had such success, and wish them best of luck getting back with their previous paypigs, because they might regret letting them go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5208118]Border closed to all but essential traffic.

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2021/01/14/us-canada-border-us-mexico-border-closures-extended-through-february/4156343001/[/URL]

And Mexicans have to be far more "essential" than US citizens.[/QUOTE]

?!?!
You are making the assumption of her being a Mexican national

Plenty of US citizen live both sides of the border.

[QUOTE=DerekDaKid;5207908]She didn't cross the border idk why her location says Mexico. I met up her in Imperial Beach.[/QUOTE]As I understood, some Mexican girls are controlled by Mexican pimps o gangsters. They login to SA from TJ. They chat with Johns and hook the girls up in the US.

[QUOTE=DerekDaKid;5207908]She didn't cross the border idk why her location says Mexico. I met up her in Imperial Beach.[/QUOTE]It is not just that the location says Mexico. I noticed that first time I looked at her profile. But some of the photos are clearly on Mexican side of the border.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;5210168]As I understood, some Mexican girls are controlled by Mexican pimps o gangsters. They login to SA from TJ. They chat with Johns and hook the girls up in the US.[/QUOTE]Precisely why I avoid all of them! Bad for life expectancy.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5210179]Precisely why I avoid all of them! Bad for life expectancy.[/QUOTE]Everything has its risk boys. I always use the head on top before using the bottom one. I assess the arrangement they always pick out for me, then if acceptable, proceed. Learn from mistakes quickly and move on.

Thinking of this arrangement, has anyone partaken in this dynamic duo? Asking for a friend of course.

Stay frosty.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/470f582f-9676-4638-9ad5-65cf2d074033[/URL]

BabyGirlM14.

Started to message this one. She acted like she wanted to meet up. Asked me to add her on Snapchat to send a current pic. Did so and then got the I'm hungry and broke can you send me money for food in exchange for pics. But she wouldn't send me a current pic of her so I don't even know for sure it would be her. I told her that and she said you saw my pics on the site. I said I'll come get you and take you to dinner. Then got the I'm not going to just meet up with anyone. I have to make sure you'll spend money. I said I'm down to hang out and buy you food but not to just give you money for nothing. She said that's fine plenty of other guys will. So hopefully it's not one of you guys just giving these girls money for nothing.

Before you'd get a cute and and bbcip within a couple weeks, now I couldn't get a single meet after a full month. How does SA premium compare to just a premium tinder account?

[QUOTE=JcelChakas;5211513]Before you'd get a cute and and bbcip within a couple weeks, now I couldn't get a single meet after a full month. How does SA premium compare to just a premium tinder account?[/QUOTE]I've had it for 3 months, and every day I get better at impressing woman with my bio and way I Chat it up with them. I am also 30 and the ladies think I'm "handsome". It's definitely a numbers game, which means you need to improve your close ratio by improving your game. My first messages when I started are nothing like they are now.

Stay Frosty.

[QUOTE=JcelChakas;5211513]Before you'd get a cute and and bbcip within a couple weeks, now I couldn't get a single meet after a full month. How does SA premium compare to just a premium tinder account?[/QUOTE]I take it you are saying that you were on SA previously, and were successful, but not this time?

Any idea why?

You are making low offers?

Covid-19, and lots wanting online only?

Some other change?

[QUOTE=JcelChakas;5211513]Before you'd get a cute and and bbcip within a couple weeks, now I couldn't get a single meet after a full month. How does SA premium compare to just a premium tinder account?[/QUOTE]I've had a lot more success on SA than I ever did on tinder. Good bio, pictures, and an opening message can carry you.

[QUOTE=GoldenBooy102;5212164]I've had a lot more success on SA than I ever did on tinder. Good bio, pictures, and an opening message can carry you.[/QUOTE]On SA money talks. There is an inverse relationship between your hotness factor and how much it will take. Less hot = more cash. And you have to still play the game to some extent. I have never used Tinder simply because of the lack of ananimity and lack of control. That being said, for those who have used Tinder curious if you have had good experiences on a pay to play basis.

[QUOTE=JcelChakas;5211513]Before you'd get a cute and and bbcip within a couple weeks, now I couldn't get a single meet after a full month. How does SA premium compare to just a premium tinder account?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;5212245]On SA money talks. There is an inverse relationship between your hotness factor and how much it will take. Less hot = more cash. And you have to still play the game to some extent. I have never used Tinder simply because of the lack of ananimity and lack of control. That being said, for those who have used Tinder curious if you have had good experiences on a pay to play basis.[/QUOTE]Since Fall of 2020, I have not returned. Main reason being mainly - Out of the 5 major colleges / universities in town, only 1 (some might say 1/2) returned back to campus. The majority of students are online. We as a city have no tourists, business people, students. I personally blame COVID & its response, in all levels.

On another note. Premium Tinder is a racket. If you want regular dates, you can try bumble.

[QUOTE=KingBaby;5212647]Since Fall of 2020, I have not returned. Main reason being mainly - Out of the 5 major colleges / universities in town, only 1 (some might say 1/2) returned back to campus. The majority of students are online. We as a city have no tourists, business people, students. I personally blame COVID & its response, in all levels.

On another note. Premium Tinder is a racket. If you want regular dates, you can try bumble.[/QUOTE]Same here. I recently rejoined the bowl and I'm getting way fewer responses than before. I also forgot how much more effort this is compared to HX / other listings ha.

[QUOTE=KingBaby;5212647]Since Fall of 2020, I have not returned. Main reason being mainly - Out of the 5 major colleges / universities in town, only 1 (some might say 1/2) returned back to campus. The majority of students are online. We as a city have no tourists, business people, students. I personally blame COVID & its response, in all levels.

On another note. Premium Tinder is a racket. If you want regular dates, you can try bumble.[/QUOTE]I kept my SA membership all of 2020. Although I agree things have become more competitive, I managed to find new dates regularly. Although COVID gave birth to a whole new scam. 'Due to COVID, not meeting anyone until over" along with the promise that you help her out now she will help you at later.

Thanks for the Bumble suggestion.

[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;5212245]On SA money talks. There is an inverse relationship between your hotness factor and how much it will take. Less hot = more cash. And you have to still play the game to some extent. I have never used Tinder simply because of the lack of ananimity and lack of control. That being said, for those who have used Tinder curious if you have had good experiences on a pay to play basis.[/QUOTE]I've never really used tinder for p4 p. I have used it with varying success for normal dates. Bumble is definitely the way to go these days. It was recommended to me by a girl I know a while ago. Tinder is too much of a hit miss for me to consider it for p4 p. Most of the girls that seem down for that are scams, and the others are real pros ime. I would just look for quickies on there. I check most of the county in SA. I'm pretty annoyed with the online only due to COVID bs. No way I'm paying for that bs.

Exposes "blacklisted" SDs.

[URL]https://sugardaddysexposed.******.com/[/URL]

Anyone know of other such sites. I believe there must be others, from comments I have seen.

Any equivalent site for scammer babies?

[QUOTE=GoldenBooy102;5212783]I've never really used tinder for p4 p. I have used it with varying success for normal dates. Bumble is definitely the way to go these days. It was recommended to me by a girl I know a while ago. Tinder is too much of a hit miss for me to consider it for p4 p. Most of the girls that seem down for that are scams, and the others are real pros ime. I would just look for quickies on there. I check most of the county in SA. I'm pretty annoyed with the online only due to COVID bs. No way I'm paying for that bs.[/QUOTE]The problem with Tinder or Bumble is that you have to keep a face picture on your profile which defeats the point of being discrete. As opposed to SA you control what pics are available for public view and who sees your private photos. Otherwise it's just online dating. For most the SB hobby is about discretion.