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[QUOTE=Norm353;3255265]Any thoughts thinking about giving it a whirl. Feel free to pm if you have any info.[/QUOTE]Was there about 3 weeks ago. 2 girls. Unattractive. Mediocre massage. HE. Will not repeat anytime soon.
Long for the days when lucy owned it. Wonder whatever happened to her.
[QUOTE=Norm353;3255265]Any thoughts thinking about giving it a whirl. Feel free to pm if you have any info.[/QUOTE]Mediocre. Not recommended. They're the only place that I've been to where you have to negotiate the tip before the finish.
C. O. : like the new place. Decorations good. CoCo awesome, other girls ok. Anyways, it's a new shop, give it a chance.
Best 933: always good for me. Surprised at what I read, especially about the mean stinky man. That's unfortunate, but no sense in blaming the staff. People should bathe and act properly! Every time I have seen another customer there, he has been polite. Thankfully. No place for rude and loud people!
YM: again, always good.
I like massage. The massage skill is #1 for me. I don't care if they are 40,50 years old, pretty or not really. Older usually means more skilled. But massage skill is so important. Helps with pain and stress big time. I almost always have a really good experience, but I am picky. The ones I pick know me. I am not ashamed to be a regular at all. You get a better massage at an AMP than anywhere. And being a regular helps just like in a restaurant. People don't know if you're going to leave a tip or a good one. You come more often and leave good tip, you get better service. Common sense. Plus remember in this business there may be ripoff artists or other cheats and liars coming in the door. This can be a tough business.
Anyways for all the faults, if you're sour, go try massage envy at the mall. Worst massage ever! And yet tons of business from women and men too. Men who ought to step up to the AMPs that have far better technique and experience, guys are missing out.
Anyways I also leave a good tip, like clockwork. I am not rich, I am not overly generous. Just want good service. Guys, everybody wants to do better over time. Most service people expect to make a little bit more every year. Maybe its time to up the usual tip. Just a suggestion.
[QUOTE=JimSteele;3256539]C. O. : like the new place. Decorations good. CoCo awesome, other girls ok. Anyways, it's a new shop, give it a chance.
Best 933: always good for me. Surprised at what I read, especially about the mean stinky man. That's unfortunate, but no sense in blaming the staff. People should bathe and act properly! Every time I have seen another customer there, he has been polite. Thankfully. No place for rude and loud people!
YM: again, always good.
I like massage. The massage skill is #1 for me. I don't care if they are 40,50 years old, pretty or not really. Older usually means more skilled. But massage skill is so important. Helps with pain and stress big time. I almost always have a really good experience, but I am picky. The ones I pick know me. I am not ashamed to be a regular at all. You get a better massage at an AMP than anywhere. And being a regular helps just like in a restaurant. People don't know if you're going to leave a tip or a good one. You come more often and leave good tip, you get better service. Common sense. Plus remember in this business there may be ripoff artists or other cheats and liars coming in the door. This can be a tough business.
Anyways for all the faults, if you're sour, go try massage envy at the mall. Worst massage ever! And yet tons of business from women and men too. Men who ought to step up to the AMPs that have far better technique and experience, guys are missing out.
Anyways I also leave a good tip, like clockwork. I am not rich, I am not overly generous. Just want good service. Guys, everybody wants to do better over time. Most service people expect to make a little bit more every year. Maybe its time to up the usual tip. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]I usually tip 6. What's standard.
Very strange story, Gutenberg but I have seen this guy. Don't know who he is but he is loud, rude and filthy. I read earlier comments about the Chinese New Year may be interferring with service and my experience at 933 yesterday followed suit. My regular was not around. Lucy welcomed me and before I knew it I had an unfamiliar older Japanese lady who was not so friendly but got the job done. I agree with Jim in that the quality of the massage is everything. A recent trip to the new CO was a real disappointment in quality of massage and professionalism. I will give it another shot but if it's another fail I probably won't return.
Has anyone requested mouth-to-mouth kissing during a visit? What would you even tip for something like that? I've heard of places in Japan where they have a large room with attractive girls that you can go and make out with for however long you want. Sounds like a winner to me, except that I don't live there.
[QUOTE=Fouco414;3257158]I usually tip 6. What's standard.[/QUOTE]Like Mr Steele, I look for a good massage. I'm not so concerned about the age or looks.
I used to frequent YM, and I was a regular there for some time. Unfortunately, they had a change in staff and the level of service went way down. I had three disappointing experiences in a row and I gave up on them. I prefer Best in Granger now. As always YMMV.
I tip from 2 to 6, depending upon how happy I am with the massage. These ladies work hard so I always tip something. Even for the bad experiences. I tip on the high side if I am a regular there.
[QUOTE=HoosierPal;3257776]Very strange story, Gutenberg but I have seen this guy. Don't know who he is but he is loud, rude and filthy. I read earlier comments about the Chinese New Year may be interferring with service and my experience at 933 yesterday followed suit. My regular was not around. Lucy welcomed me and before I knew it I had an unfamiliar older Japanese lady who was not so friendly but got the job done. I agree with Jim in that the quality of the massage is everything. A recent trip to the new CO was a real disappointment in quality of massage and professionalism. I will give it another shot but if it's another fail I probably won't return.[/QUOTE]Hang in there Hoosier. The Chinese New Year holiday is over. If my theory holds up, you should see a notable improvement in service over the next few weeks.
[QUOTE=JeeperCreeper;3258470]kissing[/QUOTE]Not around here. That's japan, they are bizarre. this is south bend, no, even to ask, would be rude. of course, nobody wants mono or a cold or the flu. you can expect a peck on the cheek when you tip, if you are a good customer. that's it. ok by me!
[QUOTE].6[/QUOTE]6 is Good tip. Duration matters --a longer massage should earn a better tip.
2 is way low, that is a sign of total dissatisfaction. And that feeling will be mutual. this would be like leaving 5% at a restaurant
For a good massage, if you read these forums. 4 was standard, years ago. now expectations will be for 5, appreciation for hard work.
still, seems low to me. I tip more.
I actually have had a different experience. SOME do kiss. IF you tip well, they know you, and you're NOT a jerk. Also being clean and smelling good, as well as not being hideous helps too LOL remember they are women and have types that they are attracted too just like we have our types. French kissing has been available to me.
Not directed to anyone specifically but. Also I know I know you guys won't believe it. But some will actually go out with you when they don't have to work. So you guys should try to befriend this girls and not just treat them like trash.
BTW it's true about the Chinese new year. I was told by a "friend" masseuse that that happens and 2 of my favorites will be returning soon.
[QUOTE=JimSteele;3262416]Not around here. That's japan, they are bizarre. this is south bend, no, even to ask, would be rude. of course, nobody wants mono or a cold or the flu. you can expect a peck on the cheek when you tip, if you are a good customer. that's it. ok by me!
6 is Good tip. Duration matters --a longer massage should earn a better tip.
2 is way low, that is a sign of total dissatisfaction. And that feeling will be mutual. this would be like leaving 5% at a restaurant
For a good massage, if you read these forums. 4 was standard, years ago. now expectations will be for 5, appreciation for hard work.
still, seems low to me. I tip more.[/QUOTE]Mr Steele is correct, as always.
I tip 2 to send a message that the massage was BAD and that I was very dissatisfied. This has only happened twice. Tip 6 when I leave VERY happy. Usual tip is 4 or 5.
Again, I always give a tip. These ladies work hard and deserve something for their effort, even if the massage was bad.
[QUOTE=SouthBend;3262476]I actually have had a different experience. SOME do kiss. IF you tip well, they know you, and you're NOT a jerk. Also being clean and smelling good, as well as not being hideous helps too LOL remember they are women and have types that they are attracted too just like we have our types. French kissing has been available to me.
Not directed to anyone specifically but. Also I know I know you guys won't believe it. But some will actually go out with you when they don't have to work. So you guys should try to befriend this girls and not just treat them like trash.
BTW it's true about the Chinese new year. I was told by a "friend" masseuse that that happens and 2 of my favorites will be returning soon.[/QUOTE]Good point SouthBend. These ladies deserve full respect and courtesy. Don't expect good service if you aren't a good customer.
[QUOTE=SouthBend;3262476]I actually have had a different experience. [/QUOTE]No doubt, you are handsome, generous, and charming. Perhaps, affection. Not part of service. I would not expect it.
Certainly, there should be mutual respect.
[QUOTE=JimSteele;3263963]No doubt, you are handsome, generous, and charming. Perhaps, affection. Not part of service. I would not expect it.
Certainly, there should be mutual respect.[/QUOTE]Don't know how to take your post. But I certainly don't consider myself charming LOL. And also don't consider myself better then anyone on here. Simply sharing my experience like everyone else. Sorry if interpret your post wrong BTW Jim.
I agree with you that the tip and money for massage does not entitle you to anything else. They have every right to deny, and you should respect that. Mutual respect. You can't just go trump on them and grab them by the puxxy.
But if you play your cards right and they also play along. Then have fun LOL. They are women after all, like the ones you meet at bars or shopping malls.
Stay safe peeps.
Visited Top Oriental Massage in Mishawaka. I was pleasantly surprised to see Lisa there. I rarely see her because she's usually busy running Best in Granger, Best on 933 and Top. Today, she was filling in for one of the usual ladies who happened to be on vacation.
The massage was amazing and left me feeling refreshed and happy. Lisa is my all time favorite in the area!