Arrangement Reports

[blue]To all the rest of you guys, this is his second post but he has been lurking for 14 years. It is what it is, lets not make it a thing because you think it's a noob lecturing.

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Hello Everyone, as I mentioned if my previous report I'm a long time lurker. After 20+ plus years in the hobby I've decided to share my knowledge. I guess this is what happens when your powers out and you're unable to watch the Cubs game.

Anyway, I've done it all. From a kid in his late teens picking up SW's to expanding my horizon to massage parlors, strip clubs, and escorts. Hooking up with porn stars. To mastering hook ups on dating sites and now sugar babies. Even dabbled in a little swinging and Dom / Sub relationships.

I've enjoyed reading this site and other for the past 10+ years. So here goes:

For those who are in the SD / SB game or thinking about playing the first thing I will tell you is "don't act like a victim". What does this mean? Use your head. If it seems to good to be true. It probably isn't.

Decide what your principles are. Things that are non negotiable. Your walk away moment.

1- Decide what your budget is. Whatever it is work within those parameters. You will find what you're looking for no matter what. Remember every girl can have her expectation of what her worth is. Someone will pay her that amount or she wouldn't ask for it. Yes, there are women who think they're a Victoria secret model when in reality they would have difficulty getting work modeling for JC Penny. They will soon find out what their "market" is. However, just as they are entitled to have their expectations you must have yours. Align yourself with those in your ballpark. I personally maintain a budget of $4-$6. Once in a while I'll treat myself to a VIP type girl.

2- Set expectations for the date. A meet and greet with no expectations can be fun. You're going to have dinner anyway why not have it with some company. You don't have to break the bank. Go Mexican or Italian and enjoy the flirting and conversation. If she asks for money, politely decline and tell her your buying her dinner and that should be enough for the first meeting / date. If she balks, you've just helped yourself by not wasting anymore of your time. When you discuss her allowance ask her what she looking for. When she asks "What do you usually give" respond with "different people want different things, I'm asking what you want" Once a number is agreed upon tell her what you expect. Overnight? A few hours? Etc. If it's a bang and bye then tell her your fee is lower. Always be polite. Don't be a jack ass. Kindness will get you far. Most people on these sites treat the girls rudely and like crap. Stand out, be someone she feels she can be comfortable with. Going out for coffee or drink is equally acceptable for a meet and greet.

3- Do not bring these girls to your house. At all. Do not go to their place on the first date. Ever! You do not know who these girls are or who they may be affiliated with. You meet her for coffee. You got back to her place. She gets your pants off then some dude comes in the room with a 45 pointed at you and wants your money or he tells you to get your pants on and makes you go to the bank to empty out your account. I've heard horror stories from people who've experienced this. USE YOUR HEAD. There are plenty of deals on hotels through orbitz and other sites especially during the week or Sunday nights. I suggest a hotel with lobby access instead of Motel Six or Red Roof. You don't want anyone banging on the door either. Once you are comfortable with her then you can meet at her place. Bringing them back to your house is dangerous. You want them to know as little as possible about you. Especially if you have a family, kids, etc. Keep your shit separate. You may never realize the value in doing this until you mess up and you have her ringing your doorbell at 1 am when it's your weekend with the kids. If you think I'm way over paranoid remember this when she's demanding money from you and tells you she knows where you live.

4- Get a google phone number. This isn't hard to understand why. Especially in the beginning. Remember you want her to know as little as possible.

5- Don't believe the sob stories. Her car broke down, her electric is off, her rent is do, etc. I promise you if you ever send money without meeting you will never meet her. She will be gone and all you'll have to show for it is her pictures to get yourself off. You've just taken the incentive to meet out of the equation. She got what she wanted without breaking a sweat. I don't like meeting someone who sounds desperate or is in a bad place. The relationship is starting off under stressed circumstances and nothing positive will come off it. Usually if someone is desperate there is reason. Drugs, alcohol, whatever the problem is. Stay away. You don't want the drama and you don't want to be around someone unstable who can potentially make bad decisions. It only takes of those bad decisions to involve you which means you're way to involved.

Anyway that's all for now. If you want me to share more I will. I have stories and intel on many of the girls on SA. Also, stay away from Sugardaddyforme. They compromise your credit card.

[QUOTE=ArielDude28;3811337]I am with you now after this experience. Here are the details. I did not loose my 100 but here's what happened. We met for coffee on day 1 and I pay 100. Next day we meet in hotel with an agreement of 200. It was a 30 min thing and no kiss and nothing. It was such a boring mechanical session. Buying food or drink in the m&g is fine but no cash is what I decided. If someone asks for cash to meet, its indeed a red flag.[/QUOTE]It sure sounds like you lost the 100, or more like 300. SA & WYP are loaded with greedy wenches. Proceed with caution. Once you open the floodgates showering them they will expect it. Also there is Zero correlation between investment and service.

Simply put most girls have GPS Golden Pussy Syndrome. It's usually easy to gauge by reading their profile. But hey it's working for many of them since too many of us think with the wrong head.

[QUOTE=Dddubs2;3811356]I'm trying to meet and greet sometime this week with this one. She seems open to play and even talked about blinding folding me. But I can't tell if she's on the bigger side or really curvy. Hmm do you remember how she looks in real life?[/QUOTE]Amazing tits, little belly fat but not overwhelming.

She is cute and sounds like a freak.

Best of luck.

[QUOTE=Zeuss;3811391]It sure sounds like you lost the 100, or more like 300. SA & WYP are loaded with greedy wenches. Proceed with caution. Once you open the floodgates showering them they will expect it. Also there is Zero correlation between investment and service.

Simply put most girls have GPS Golden Pussy Syndrome. It's usually easy to gauge by reading their profile. But hey it's working for many of them since too many of us think with the wrong head.[/QUOTE]Dumb act I would say. I applied some brain and followed the restrictions (except 1 and 2) mentioned by Jasse1 below. I forgot to put the link so everyone is warned.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7a7a9c9f-dab2-4a65-a170-a49f321d8ac1[/URL]

[URL]https://sugarbabyjobs.com/sbj/[/URL]

The guy that set this up is a piece of shit. If you're on this forum go f**k yourself!

Wow, what a bunch of scum bags. Supposedly the site is run by all women who used to be SB's, but you have to apply to get placement (while sending photos of yourself in a bikini LOL!) I did a quick search and the site doesn't show up on Google. They also have a "testimonial" section, and one one of the girls claims to have seen a post for the site on Craigslist.

I doubt (hopefull) this will gain traction. But yes whoever started this is definitely trying to take advantage.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;3811605][URL]https://sugarbabyjobs.com/sbj/[/URL]

The guy that set this up is a piece of shit. If you're on this forum go f**k yourself![/QUOTE]

Pleasant experience. Took her out to dinner then went to hotel. Very submissive. BBJ / CS. Little on the chunky side. No allowance exchanged just dinner.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/46465f95-e782-413a-9cde-3174b6458b2e[/URL]

Great experience. Absolutely freaky! Squirts like a geyser. Didn't stay long. $250 PM for more details.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/5239c772-02c2-4007-bb1c-f7a1fd4ee3e4[/URL]

Anyone have any info on her?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ab3af3f0-49ca-44ed-98d7-803b49ad40bc[/URL]

Met for coffee then hotel. Great experience. Relaxed. Submissive. Big booty. Great BBJ. Everything uncovered. $300. PM for more details.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/2576de9f-a0c0-56eb-2e8f-ce90078a40cb[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jasse1;3811370][blue]To all the rest of you guys, this is his second post but he has been lurking for 14 years. It is what it is, lets not make it a thing because you think it's a noob lecturing.

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Hello Everyone, as I mentioned if my previous report I'm a long time lurker. After 20+ plus years in the hobby I've decided to share my knowledge. I guess this is what happens when your powers out and you're unable to watch the Cubs game.

Anyway, I've done it all. From a kid in his late teens picking up SW's to expanding my horizon to massage parlors, strip clubs, and escorts. Hooking up with porn stars. To mastering hook ups on dating sites and now sugar babies. Even dabbled in a little swinging and Dom / Sub relationships.

I've enjoyed reading this site and other for the past 10+ years. So here goes:

For those who are in the SD / SB game or thinking about playing the first thing I will tell you is "don't act like a victim". What does this mean? Use your head. If it seems to good to be true. It probably isn't.

Decide what your principles are. Things that are non negotiable. Your walk away moment.

1- Decide what your budget is. Whatever it is work within those parameters. You will find what you're looking for no matter what. Remember every girl can have her expectation of what her worth is. Someone will pay her that amount or she wouldn't ask for it. Yes, there are women who think they're a Victoria secret model when in reality they would have difficulty getting work modeling for JC Penny. They will soon find out what their "market" is. However, just as they are entitled to have their expectations you must have yours. Align yourself with those in your ballpark. I personally maintain a budget of $4-$6. Once in a while I'll treat myself to a VIP type girl.

2- Set expectations for the date. A meet and greet with no expectations can be fun. You're going to have dinner anyway why not have it with some company. You don't have to break the bank. Go Mexican or Italian and enjoy the flirting and conversation. If she asks for money, politely decline and tell her your buying her dinner and that should be enough for the first meeting / date. If she balks, you've just helped yourself by not wasting anymore of your time. When you discuss her allowance ask her what she looking for. When she asks "What do you usually give" respond with "different people want different things, I'm asking what you want" Once a number is agreed upon tell her what you expect. Overnight? A few hours? Etc. If it's a bang and bye then tell her your fee is lower. Always be polite. Don't be a jack ass. Kindness will get you far. Most people on these sites treat the girls rudely and like crap. Stand out, be someone she feels she can be comfortable with. Going out for coffee or drink is equally acceptable for a meet and greet.

3- Do not bring these girls to your house. At all. Do not go to their place on the first date. Ever! You do not know who these girls are or who they may be affiliated with. You meet her for coffee. You got back to her place. She gets your pants off then some dude comes in the room with a 45 pointed at you and wants your money or he tells you to get your pants on and makes you go to the bank to empty out your account. I've heard horror stories from people who've experienced this. USE YOUR HEAD. There are plenty of deals on hotels through orbitz and other sites especially during the week or Sunday nights. I suggest a hotel with lobby access instead of Motel Six or Red Roof. You don't want anyone banging on the door either. Once you are comfortable with her then you can meet at her place. Bringing them back to your house is dangerous. You want them to know as little as possible about you. Especially if you have a family, kids, etc. Keep your shit separate. You may never realize the value in doing this until you mess up and you have her ringing your doorbell at 1 am when it's your weekend with the kids. If you think I'm way over paranoid remember this when she's demanding money from you and tells you she knows where you live.

4- Get a google phone number. This isn't hard to understand why. Especially in the beginning. Remember you want her to know as little as possible.

5- Don't believe the sob stories. Her car broke down, her electric is off, her rent is do, etc. I promise you if you ever send money without meeting you will never meet her. She will be gone and all you'll have to show for it is her pictures to get yourself off. You've just taken the incentive to meet out of the equation. She got what she wanted without breaking a sweat. I don't like meeting someone who sounds desperate or is in a bad place. The relationship is starting off under stressed circumstances and nothing positive will come off it. Usually if someone is desperate there is reason. Drugs, alcohol, whatever the problem is. Stay away. You don't want the drama and you don't want to be around someone unstable who can potentially make bad decisions. It only takes of those bad decisions to involve you which means you're way to involved.

Anyway that's all for now. If you want me to share more I will. I have stories and intel on many of the girls on SA. Also, stay away from Sugardaddyforme. They compromise your credit card.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this. I'm sure this took time to draft. Great guide for those new to the game or having second thoughts.

To continue my previous post and also thanks for the kind messages.

6 - Don't let her take control of the relationship. One of the quickest ways for her to do that is making you wait. You have a schedule time to meet say 7 pm, unless she is calling or texting telling you she will be late for whatever reason, you leave after a half hour. Don't be a sucker and don't allow yourself to be held hostage. If she fails to communicate with you and you leave at 730 pm one of 3 things will happen. 1- She was never going to show up to begin with and you saved yourself the time. 2 - She does finally show up and she gets upset for you leaving and calls you all pissed off and tells you off. 3- She finally shows up and calls very apologetic. Maybe at that point you decide to go meet her but if she is sincere she will never be later again. When you find someone who doesn't ghost, shows up on time, communicates, etc it means you found someone who values your time and respects you. This is huge and can never be undervalued.

7- Why a meet and great is important instead of just meeting at hotel. Imagine getting a room, paying for it and she never shows. It sucks. Imagine getting a room, paying for it and she shows all strung out. How do you rid yourself of that situation? It sucks. Imagine getting room and she shows up and she looks nothing like her pics. It sucks. Imagine getting a room and she shows up and she is out of her mind. It sucks. Imagine getting a room and she shows up late and proceeds to tell you her cost for this and that. It sucks. Bottom line is do a meet and greet. Being in an uncomfortable situation because you decided to take a short cut could put you harms way. It's not worth it.

8- Give her allowance at the end. Non negotiable. If she says you and her can't go forward then so be it. Date over. This is why a meet and greet and setting expectations are so important. Plus it also helps distinguish who actually is a SB versus a hooker.

9- If you find someone who checks off all of your boxes keep seeing her. Yes you may see someone online who looks incredible but you never know what her mental make up is. If you found someone who in your opinion is attractive, fits your budget, is great in the sack, respectful, consistent, etc keep her. Maintain that relationship, it will only get better.

10- Google is your friend. The moment you get a phone number google it. Do a quick search of her picture files. You may find you're dealing with a hooker / escort. That's fine if that's what you want. Then so be it. You definitely know what to expect. Also down load a phone number I'd app, helps you get a name and do a social media search. Helps survey the landscape.

Anyway that's all I have for now. If you have any questions feel free to PM me or ask on the forum. I will be posting intel moving forward and offering some insight here and there. Enjoy the hobby. Be good to each other.

I mentioned this in a previous post. Stay away from [URL]sugardaddyforme.com[/URL].

This site was my first introduction to this lifestyle a several years ago. Whenever my membership renewed, shortly thereafter I would have unauthorized charges on my CCARD from large retail outlets. I don't know if it's the site and the people who run it or the CCARD processing company. Either way it sucks. Can I prove it? No. However I haven't had an issue since I left the site and it happened about 3/4 times before I was able to correlate the renew versus the fraudulent charges.

[QUOTE=Jasse1;3811745]Met for coffee then hotel. Great experience. Relaxed. Submissive. Big booty. Great BBJ. Everything uncovered. $300. PM for more details.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/2576de9f-a0c0-56eb-2e8f-ce90078a40cb[/URL][/QUOTE]Sweet girl, her availability sometimes goes array but worth the time to set aside.

[QUOTE=ChicagoGoer;3811503]Amazing tits, little belly fat but not overwhelming.

She is cute and sounds like a freak.

Best of luck.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir. Will report back once if I'm able to link up with her this weekend.