The Woodshed

[QUOTE=TallBear;2581168]If she was attractive, smart, personable & rocked my world, given my own checkered past, I doubt hers would bother me very much. I'm thinking here of a FWB in another state who is a "retired" provider & all of the above. If our circumstances were different, I could imagine a more serious relationship with her. She is really quite a gal.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I've met someone like that too. I actually enjoy her presence equally as much as I enjoy sex with her. But I definitely keep that shit on a leash though. Logic kicks in and I instantly reject those feelings of fondness from my mind whenever they manifest. Like laying in bed chatting with her before or after a session, or sitting at home chillin and think to myself: "Damn I really like this chick. She is cool as hell. I wonder if......." NAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[QUOTE=CantB1;2580842]You just don't know how timely your question was made. My answer would be YES although my examples are not "retired" And no names will be given. I have let's say "dated" and I will use that word loosely. First one she said we were in a relationship. I met her just over a year ago on BP. Turned on the humor and charm. She called me to see her again a few days later. After I asked her how much because we got down for about 2 hours. She said you don't have to give me nothing. Shocked by the thought I still gave her 60. She started calling me to come see her whlie she worked and we talked several times daily. She got so deep into her habit that after a few months she looked almost nothing like the short PAWG I liked. She went from 140 to 100. Lost most her hair. And went from wanting to have a normal life and job to saying she retired from jobs at 28 years old. I had to walk away when she forgot to tell me her grandmother died because she got so messed up on drugs for days. That grouchy old lady liked me because I was nothing like her other friends. I became the first AA to ever come into their house and be welcomed to spend the night. One man can make a difference in another person's life.

Next provider is recent / current. Call it FWB. Never had to P4 P. Was looking like something more but somewhere we slowed it down. Well she hit the brakes and I got whiplash. Sex is great but irrelevant. I really enjoy her as a person.

And now there is a SW. It's been going on for less than 2 weeks. I will explain more about that situation in another report.[/QUOTE]Man, that pawg situation was a tragedy. 140 to 100 is a ridiculous ass meat reduction. Plus she sounded pretty damn cool.

When it just feels right with someone, it is difficult to put the brakes on things and stop it from evolving. No matter what they've done in the past. But like mentioned below, I would be worried about the past coming back to haunt her. The rape / violence / drugs issues would resurface eventually. I've dated a stripper and that exact thing happened. I had to hit the eject button with the quickness.

I been spending a lot of time lately with a SW and her boyfriend Ron.

I been spending a lot of time with a SW lately. But I kinda feel like a third wheel because no matter what time of day it is or where we go she always gets a call from Ron. Ron is a needy bastard. Always calling her several times a day. She wakes up sick of him calling but she always answers his controlling ass. What's said is that they have only been together for a few months but his hold is strong. She has to do anything to support him. Even deal with bad living situations and constantly being scared of being arrest for doing what she has to do. Ron encourages and get off on seeing her date strange men for money.

I met SW months ago. Never did I think that she would be in such a bad relationship for her appearance. Not with that lower anyway. But given her line of work I knew she wasn't doing it for the fun. The more time I spent with her, the more I see where he has left his mark. I know in life people become neutral and never try to move pass road blocks and make detours to avoid for seem obstacles. I'm guilty of that myself so I try not to judge but some things are like basic math. 1+1=2 and a person using drugs becomes addicted. As kids we make fun of junkies. Never did we say that's what we want to be when we grow up. But it seems to be a growing "profession. " What happened to wanting to be Doctors lawyers and millionaires.

Back to SW. She thinks that she is different from the other ladies in her position. She knows what she's doing. She doesn't think that Ron will kill her like he did another girl she knows. He makes you abandon your kids for him. And that Ron won't rob her of her looks. I ask her what makes her any different that all the others he fuck with. She gets lost in her ignorance of self awareness.

Ron is her problem. She has apologized too many times for him keeping her too long and making her miss our dates. Another thing is that she thinks everything and everyone is "Quid pro quo" (something for something) No I don't need you to "put it on me" to make it up to me. No I don't need you to suck my dick because I bought you something. Just be sincere and dependable. Which she is not. She is so impatient when she needs but everything else can't help but wait because Ron is calling every couple hours. I get dragged in to help him out. I have gotten to not be able to stand him at all. Only thing I can do is stay out of their relationship.

CB1.

Damn that Ron get treated like a king. But he destroys his loyal subjects one day at a time.

[QUOTE=StewieGriffin;2581275]So true. Even though my charges were dropped, it was still a pain in the ass! Spent the night in jail, because you can not bond out for a solicitation charge, had to pay a lawyer, and go through all that crap. And just when you think it is all over because they drop the charges, your name and picture show up in JC paper and someone at works sees it and puts a copy on everyones desk almost getting you fired from your job.

So even though I was innocent (I actually was this time, that's what had me so mad) it still cost several thousand dollars in attorney fees, night in jail, they towed my car, picture in the paper, and almost lost my job. And remember like in my case. The only thing that saved me in the end was that they had a recording of the whole thing and believe it or not the police wrote down something completely different then what was on the recording.[/QUOTE]Thanks Stewie for the post and sharing your personal experience! It makes me think about this hobby and puts it in prospective of the consequences, if caught. Not really worth it in the long run. I'm clean now but it is a huge risk.

I add my thanks as well Stewie. I came close to a problem up north many years ago and only narrowly avoided it because of the paranoid precautions I used to take when dialing BP girls from my hotel room. Specifically, I used to casually camp out in the lobby for first time girls to see if they came alone. I won't detail the specifics, but suffice it to say that I probably would have been sleeping in a jail cell instead of my very nice hotel bed if I had been in that room and let her in. I had to hide out in another part of the hotel for almost an hour until the "escort" and her entourage realized that I was not going to answer the door, and hence would not be caught in the act of handing over cash for sex, and finally left. JSO might not waste resources chasing one off outcall busts, but, sadly, local and even state police in some of the northeast states are all too happy to blow massive resources on morality policing.

That was 8 ish years ago and it was last time that I sourced paid pussy anywhere other than directly from a strip club. An arrest alone would have been sufficient to ruin my life, regardless of whether I beat the charges or not. If you work in sensitive industries that require fingerprinting, you know that fingerprint records are forever and every arrest, regardless of whether they result in court action, pop up during a fingerprint check.

[QUOTE=Jaxlooker1;2582315]Thanks Stewie for the post and sharing your personal experience! It makes me think about this hobby and puts it in prospective of the consequences, if caught. Not really worth it in the long run. I'm clean now but it is a huge risk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StewieGriffin;2581275]So true. Even though my charges were dropped, it was still a pain in the ass! Spent the night in jail, because you can not bond out for a solicitation charge, had to pay a lawyer, and go through all that crap. And just when you think it is all over because they drop the charges, your name and picture show up in JC paper and someone at works sees it and puts a copy on everyones desk almost getting you fired from your job.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CantB1;2582272]I been spending a lot of time with a SW lately. But I kinda feel like a third wheel because no matter what time of day it is or where we go she always gets a call from Ron. Ron is a needy bastard. Always calling her several times a day. She wakes up sick of him calling but she always answers his controlling ass. What's said is that they have only been together for a few months but his hold is strong. She has to do anything to support him. Even deal with bad living situations and constantly being scared of being arrest for doing what she has to do. Ron encourages and get off on seeing her date strange men for money.

I met SW months ago. Never did I think that she would be in such a bad relationship for her appearance. Not with that lower anyway. But given her line of work I knew she wasn't doing it for the fun. The more time I spent with her, the more I see where he has left his mark. I know in life people become neutral and never try to move pass road blocks and make detours to avoid for seem obstacles. I'm guilty of that myself so I try not to judge but some things are like basic math. 1+1=2 and a person using drugs becomes addicted. As kids we make fun of junkies. Never did we say that's what we want to be when we grow up. But it seems to be a growing "profession. " What happened to wanting to be Doctors lawyers and millionaires.

Back to SW. She thinks that she is different from the other ladies in her position. She knows what she's doing. She doesn't think that Ron will kill her like he did another girl she knows. He makes you abandon your kids for him. And that Ron won't rob her of her looks. I ask her what makes her any different that all the others he fuck with. She gets lost in her ignorance of self awareness.

Ron is her problem. She has apologized too many times for him keeping her too long and making her miss our dates. Another thing is that she thinks everything and everyone is "Quid pro quo" (something for something) No I don't need you to "put it on me" to make it up to me. No I don't need you to suck my dick because I bought you something. Just be sincere and dependable. Which she is not. She is so impatient when she needs but everything else can't help but wait because Ron is calling every couple hours. I get dragged in to help him out. I have gotten to not be able to stand him at all. Only thing I can do is stay out of their relationship.

CB1.

Damn that Ron get treated like a king. But he destroys his loyal subjects one day at a time.[/QUOTE]That's deep brother. Makes you appreciate not being enslaved by anything that is guarunteed to ruin your life. It definitely sucks to watch a cool chick slowly flush herself down the drain.

[QUOTE=RickDugan;2582338]I add my thanks as well Stewie. I came close to a problem up north many years ago and only narrowly avoided it because of the paranoid precautions I used to take when dialing BP girls from my hotel room. Specifically, I used to casually camp out in the lobby for first time girls to see if they came alone. I won't detail the specifics, but suffice it to say that I probably would have been sleeping in a jail cell instead of my very nice hotel bed if I had been in that room and let her in. I had to hide out in another part of the hotel for almost an hour until the "escort" and her entourage realized that I was not going to answer the door, and hence would not be caught in the act of handing over cash for sex, and finally left. JSO might not waste resources chasing one off outcall busts, but, sadly, local and even state police in some of the northeast states are all too happy to blow massive resources on morality policing.

That was 8 ish years ago and it was last time that I sourced paid pussy anywhere other than directly from a strip club. An arrest alone would have been sufficient to ruin my life, regardless of whether I beat the charges or not. If you work in sensitive industries that require fingerprinting, you know that fingerprint records are forever and every arrest, regardless of whether they result in court action, pop up during a fingerprint check.[/QUOTE]

Stewie didn't hand them (LEO) his azz on a platter. He acted in such a manner that the charges didn't ultimately result in a conviction. Convictions hurt you more than anything. As I mentioned, you can't seal a record if the current status of your case is "conviction. " He gave his lawyer something to work with. He didn't go in there having that money / sex conversation. As I said before, they might be a prick and arrest you anyway, even if you didn't say anything incriminating but in the end, I'd still rather be in Stewie's shoes; that is, not helping LEO make their case against me! This is the point of the whole discussion. Knowing what to do and what not to do. Better to be informed than to be a fool making assumptions!

One of the things I always keep in mind is that before I say anything; before any words leave my mouth, I am always asking myself, "how will what I'm about to say sound (recording from a sting) before a judge and jury?" If it's incriminating; if it's SEXUALLY explicit; if it's a conversation that consist of any kind of sexual innuendo whatsoever, I DON'T SAY IT! All they need to know is that you are paying for their time and companionship ONLY. Nothing more! Someone might say, "well, they still might arrest you!" Yeah, true but people get arrested and charged every day for shet but as long as it does not result in a conviction (ultimately) and the charges are eventually dropped you're in better shape than you realize.

[QUOTE=YoungRestless;2582757]Stewie didn't hand them (LEO) his azz on a platter. He acted in such a manner that the charges didn't ultimately result in a conviction. Convictions hurt you more than anything. As I mentioned, you can't seal a record if the current status of your case is "conviction. " He gave his lawyer something to work with. He didn't go in there having that money / sex conversation. As I said before, they might be a prick and arrest you anyway, even if you didn't say anything incriminating but in the end, I'd still rather be in Stewie's shoes; that is, not helping LEO make their case against me! This is the point of the whole discussion. Knowing what to do and what not to do. Better to be informed than to be a fool making assumptions!

One of the things I always keep in mind is that before I say anything; before any words leave my mouth, I am always asking myself, "how will what I'm about to say sound (recording from a sting) before a judge and jury?" If it's incriminating; if it's SEXUALLY explicit; if it's a conversation that consist of any kind of sexual innuendo whatsoever, I DON'T SAY IT! All they need to know is that you are paying for their time and companionship ONLY. Nothing more! Someone might say, "well, they still might arrest you!" Yeah, true but people get arrested and charged every day for shet but as long as it does not result in a conviction (ultimately) and the charges are eventually dropped you're in better shape than you realize.[/QUOTE]So many experts on this forum.

[QUOTE=CantB1;2582240]I been spending a lot of time lately with a SW and her boyfriend Ron.[/QUOTE]I hate reading your posts!. Cause they strip away that false prettiness that we see this world through. I like to pretend, that I don't know, that the "spider bite" on the arm is an infection from a dirty needle. That the blister on the breast isn't a burn from stashing a hot crack pipe. But ultimately, in the end, I realize, I'm merely a daytripper, holidaying in someone's personal version of hell.

So keep up the good reportage, and good writing CB1.

I can only offer this.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze-cX8qzFDY[/URL]

[QUOTE=YoungRestless;2582757]Stewie didn't hand them (LEO) his azz on a platter. He acted in such a manner that the charges didn't ultimately result in a conviction. Convictions hurt you more than anything. As I mentioned, you can't seal a record if the current status of your case is "conviction. " He gave his lawyer something to work with. He didn't go in there having that money / sex conversation. As I said before, they might be a prick and arrest you anyway, even if you didn't say anything incriminating but in the end, I'd still rather be in Stewie's shoes; that is, not helping LEO make their case against me! This is the point of the whole discussion. Knowing what to do and what not to do. Better to be informed than to be a fool making assumptions!

One of the things I always keep in mind is that before I say anything; before any words leave my mouth, I am always asking myself, "how will what I'm about to say sound (recording from a sting) before a judge and jury?" If it's incriminating; if it's SEXUALLY explicit; if it's a conversation that consist of any kind of sexual innuendo whatsoever, I DON'T SAY IT! All they need to know is that you are paying for their time and companionship ONLY. Nothing more! Someone might say, "well, they still might arrest you!" Yeah, true but people get arrested and charged every day for shet but as long as it does not result in a conviction (ultimately) and the charges are eventually dropped you're in better shape than you realize.[/QUOTE] wrote under wrong one.

[QUOTE=RegularMem1;2582929]So many experts on this forum.[/QUOTE]But you know what you know yet I can only speak for me; one thing about it, there is no suppositions or conjectures here! I'm assuming your remarks were meant for sarcasm. Rather than sarcasm, it would be better to add value to the discussion instead! But perhaps you just can't!

I'm just ecstatic you mongers are keeping this frequently long winded stuff on this thread, and not taking up so much real estate on the others. I say state your opinions or complain all you want, you're entitled to it. But on the other threads where we are looking for and sharing info, let's lay off the novels, know what I mean?

We have had a break recently on those from one monger who won't go named here having his hand recently slapped. It's been nice.

[QUOTE=YoungRestless;2581039]You indicated that in Polk county, there was a sting and that everyone who showed up got arrested; regardless whether they incriminated themselves or not. From what I've read, the folks were arrested because they offered money in exchange for sex. I didn't read anything about them just showing up and getting arrested. Can you please tell me where you got this information from? Was it in the news story? Did you read arrest reports that indicated this? Perhaps you got some inside information? If you can direct me to the source, please do so. Thanks in advanced![/QUOTE]Everyone that came to the hotel room regardless of what was said or text was arrested. Now after the show was over they listed a few of the men that had their charges dropped but everyone who showed up was charged. One of the gentlemen got off by continuing to say he was just there for a "date" no sex just a "date".

There's a couple sure fire ways to find out if the woman your dealing with is an undercover cop. First if she's willing to get in your car and go somewhere with you she's not a cop. I have a couple acquaintances that are police officers and they tell me that it's department policy that no female undercover agent under any circumstances will get into a vehicle. Also it's highly unusual for cops to set up outcall stings, first there's the expense verses the amount of arrests made, can you imagine the police having to coordinate such a event. Then there's the issue of security, letting an female undercover agent walk into a strange location creates to many variables, they deem it way to risky. So there you have it, get them in your car or home and odds are very good you not dealing with law enforcement. JD.

[QUOTE=Fishguy717;2583308]I'm just ecstatic you mongers are keeping this frequently long winded stuff on this thread, and not taking up so much real estate on the others. I say state your opinions or complain all you want, you're entitled to it. But on the other threads where we are looking for and sharing info, let's lay off the novels, know what I mean?

We have had a break recently on those from one monger who won't go named here having his hand recently slapped. It's been nice.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I am not sure if people really know why the "Woodshed" was created. Perhaps it is because they started posting on this site after it was created and never had the opportunity to see why A2 created it. It was essentially created (and A2 please correct me if I'm wrong) so that when reviewers dealt with some hot topics and they became angry with each other, they could take heated debates to this particular thread. They could call each other "Mo frucker" or "Sun of a Biatch" etc. This way, they don't have to take up bandwidth on other threads where people only want to discuss finding p-ssy. You can say nasty things to each other on this thread without incurring infractions from A2 which is pretty nice actually.

What I find fascinating is that when we do this (post on a more appropriate thread), folks still get upset and follow you to the thread that is more relevant to the topic and try to rail on ya! I just really don't get it! When certain topics come up on, for example, the BP thread, people become enraged that you're not talking about the latest lay. Alright, understandable but the reason a variety of other threads were created was so that people could discuss more appropriate topics that are more germane to said thread. I can't tell folks where to post and how to post but one thing I'm a firm believer in and that is be respectful of one another and share information no matter how large or small; no matter how significant or insignificant; SHARE! You never know what information might help whoever since we all are on this site for various purposes. What I might be on this site for might be quite different from another poster. Anyhow, if folks want respect then you have to give it, point-blank. While some topics might go on for a minute, give it a little time and patience, they will soon fizzle out and soon enough another topic comes on the scene and we just keep moving on. Anyway, that's my take on why the "Woodshed" was created.