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Joined today. 26 married. Said she had to clear up some debt from foolish purchases for last year.
Had a nice convo going -- fitness trainer who said she could give me quite the work out -- then poof. Either deactivated or blocked. I'm thinking DeacT since I can still see her user name. She probably got cold feet, or I guess there are some glitches in SA with new sign ups that seem to go on and off like there is a short in their system.
Anyone else got any intel to share?
[QUOTE=WPGuy;4626318]I had a SB try to extort me just about a year ago. Wanted an initial meet at a coffee shop. Met her in her car with what she wanted. She gave me her "address" to go from there to FC. When I got there and texted, then cam the extortion. Claimed she had my pic in her car, real name, license plate number, cop friend that would be coming to my door, etc. And would let wife know unless I gave her money $275 by end of day. After a few hours of threats I asked her for proof--a pic, license number, etc. If she could come up with anything, I would pay her. She got real pissy for the rest of the day. Never heard from her after that day. I have learned to discreetly take a pic of their car, their plate, and the girl coming into a hotel room or wherever I meet her.
Sadly, we probably all learn from experience.[/QUOTE]There are periodic posts on this stuff, you might look back a while, or into the archive. Some very calmly confident replies to this crap are listed. Basically, it isn't the nicest thing to cheat on your wife, but it isn't illegal. However, extortion is a felony, etc. Etc. Of course, you have evidence in her texts, screen shot them and send them back to her. If she wants to fuck you up, you will do her one better in return. And then, make *certain* that your op sec is good enough that none of the things a girl like this claims could be true. Like being able to say, when a girl you barebacked says she's preggers, that you were snipped before the turn of the century, so it couldn't be you.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4627006]Joined today. 26 married. Said she had to clear up some debt from foolish purchases for last year.
Had a nice convo going -- fitness trainer who said she could give me quite the work out -- then poof. Either deactivated or blocked. I'm thinking DeacT since I can still see her user name. She probably got cold feet, or I guess there are some glitches in SA with new sign ups that seem to go on and off like there is a short in their system.
Anyone else got any intel to share?[/QUOTE]Interesting. No intel on the girl, but I was on SA early this afternoon. I logged off, then tried to log back on later and upon logging back in was told that my account had been deleted, sometime in those few hours I suppose. Weird, since I was just shopping and not buying. Could be a SA glitch.
Anyone chatted with Stellablue222?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba5efb5-a41f-4a1f-b876-4e217a09772f[/URL]
Seriously cute and leggy, but claims her LT SB was 63 and gave her $300 per week for platonic dates until she got comfortable enough to get naked, then it was $2000 a month for weekly bangs.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4628525]Anyone chatted with Stellablue222?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba5efb5-a41f-4a1f-b876-4e217a09772f[/URL]
Seriously cute and leggy, but claims her LT SB was 63 and gave her $300 per week for platonic dates until she got comfortable enough to get naked, then it was $2000 a month for weekly bangs.[/QUOTE]Told me she's never had any luck on the site. No arrangements. That's a nice jump from 3 to 2 k.
[QUOTE=EasyeOne;4628732]Told me she's never had any luck on the site. No arrangements. That's a nice jump from 3 to 2 k.[/QUOTE]I got as far as texting. I'm pretty sure I was talking to someone other than the photos. Never could get a commitment to a meet.
[QUOTE=GoneForDays;4629536]I got as far as texting. I'm pretty sure I was talking to someone other than the photos. Never could get a commitment to a meet.[/QUOTE]But I think she's a scam. Yesterday told me about an MD appointment she had and could afford the co pay or the cancellation fee.
Never seen and MD that charges a cancellation fee.
When I mentioned my plan is a high deductible and has no co pay, she then said her's is a high deductible and its all out of pocket. OK, so some 20 somthing yoga instructor has her own health insurance. That would be a first!!
Sounds like she was fishing for someone to "cover her expenses".
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4629680]But I think she's a scam. Yesterday told me about an MD appointment she had and could afford the co pay or the cancellation fee.
Never seen and MD that charges a cancellation fee.
When I mentioned my plan is a high deductible and has no co pay, she then said her's is a high deductible and its all out of pocket. OK, so some 20 somthing yoga instructor has her own health insurance. That would be a first!![/QUOTE]More and more physicians are charging cancellation fees to discourage no-shows. It's become a fairly common practice. As for having her own health insurance, that's mandated under the ACA, and the vast majority of plans in the state exchanges have high deductibles (which is how they're so "affordable").
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4629680]But I think she's a scam. Yesterday told me about an MD appointment she had and could afford the co pay or the cancellation fee.
Never seen and MD that charges a cancellation fee.
When I mentioned my plan is a high deductible and has no co pay, she then said her's is a high deductible and its all out of pocket. OK, so some 20 somthing yoga instructor has her own health insurance. That would be a first!!
Sounds like she was fishing for someone to "cover her expenses".[/QUOTE]I talked to her for a decent amount of time and was supposed to meet up with her on a few occasions but I always backed out. She was really weird. Said she wasn't really interested in anything physical because sex is an exchange of energy and exchanging that energy with the wrong person can upset the natural flow or something like that. I just wasn't interested.
[QUOTE=FeelGoodMd;4629822]More and more physicians are charging cancellation fees to discourage no-shows. It's become a fairly common practice. As for having her own health insurance, that's mandated under the ACA, and the vast majority of plans in the state exchanges have high deductibles (which is how they're so "affordable").[/QUOTE]I've bee screwed by the affordability since day 1. But usually plans with a deductible don't have a co pay until after the dedictuble is met.
Pics seems real enough. Believable story. Just odd that in three hours of exhanging a couple of dozen messges she hastnt even looked at my profile or pics.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/06c7f2cc-4d2a-47b8-b916-ba25c5ed8f74[/URL]
[QUOTE=EBob1111;4608221][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/258717c6-04ea-4827-8603-690db2fecb9d[/URL][/QUOTE]I had caught toocharmy on SA & msg her my # & she texted me Wednesday morning & talked about meeting over the weekend & she talked me into buying her videos & pics. Should have known better but pay pal her money & of course now she doesn't respond to msg & no sign of a video or picture. So anyway everyone has been warned!!
[QUOTE=HottRod66;4630106]I had caught toocharmy on SA & msg her my # & she texted me Wednesday morning & talked about meeting over the weekend & she talked me into buying her videos & pics. Should have known better but pay pal her money & of course now she doesn't respond to msg & no sign of a video or picture. So anyway everyone has been warned!![/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, how much did you send her for the videos and pictures?
[QUOTE=MagicRat;4615906]What EvilTmp said. I just signed back up after a few months lapse and he is exactly right. Some are actually in therapy, some take drugs for the mental ailments, the rest need to do both. It does make it more difficult for an old guy like me to deal with these seemingly modern mental health issues but if we want to play this game, we have to.[/QUOTE]Rat, I don't know you. Maybe you are a handsome 20-something with a six pack visible through your clothes, look like a male model, have more money than God and are charming to boot. But most of us on here are not young, and both face and bodies are not what they used to be. We have no interest in a "meaningful relationship" with these girls and many of us have SO's. We want hot young girls to fuck us, for as little money as possible, and we want it to not be all about the money.
And you are surprised that the girls who answer that call are crazy?! Come on, look at at it objectively. Why would any of these girls want to fuck us unless (1) it is all about the money; or (2) they are bat-shit crazy? Don't worry about the crazy. You didn't make them that way and you are very unlikely to be able to fix them. Just sink your dick into them and enjoy the ride.
[QUOTE=FeelGoodMd;4629822]....As for having her own health insurance, that's mandated under the ACA, ....[/QUOTE]Individual mandate was eliminated / overturned by Congress a couple years ago.
[QUOTE=DogBert77;4630190]And you are surprised that the girls who answer that call are crazy?! Come on, look at at it objectively. Why would any of these girls want to fuck us unless (1) it is all about the money; or (2) they are bat-shit crazy? Don't worry about the crazy. You didn't make them that way and you are very unlikely to be able to fix them. Just sink your dick into them and enjoy the ride.[/QUOTE]While I am extremely nice to my SBs (do not confuse nice with being a pushover) I agree with the above. All SBs are flawed and their pussys are an ATM for them; nothing more, nothing less. This does not mean many are not nice people (my active 2 are some really sweet girls). However, I do not confuse being nice with not being really messed up in the head.
[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;4630211]While I am extremely nice to my SBs (do not confuse nice with being a pushover) I agree with the above. All SBs are flawed and their pussys are an ATM for them; nothing more, nothing less. This does not mean many are not nice people (my active 2 are some really sweet girls). However, I do not confuse being nice with not being really messed up in the head.[/QUOTE]The odd thing about the female species is she may like you, even be jealous of you, but she still can't resist lying to and manipulating you.
This for men is confusing.
I used to agonize over it, now I consider them as just different, and like their company for different reasons.
Having grown my net worth makes me feel power over them, because I know they have an Achilles heel, the desire for easy cash.
I try to resist being crude to them, to allow them the fantasy of a helpful guy.
[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;4630191]Individual mandate was eliminated / overturned by Congress a couple years ago.[/QUOTE]Individual mandate is still there. The penalty for not having Health Insurance has been allowed to lapse.
[QUOTE=TechSticles;4630149]Just out of curiosity, how much did you send her for the videos and pictures?[/QUOTE]$50 She claimed she'd send 4 videos 6-10 minutes each & like 15 pictures. After I posted on here some white night member screen shot my post which she promptly responded to me & sent a 9 second video & maybe 8 pictures far from what she promised!! To the member that screen shot the post & sent it her thanks & also f*ck You & her!! Screen shot this 1 to idgaf!
[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4630424]The penalty for not having Health Insurance has been allowed to lapse.[/QUOTE]I see this is as a distinction without a difference vs the mandate being repealed w/in the law itself. The legal force the ACA had built into it was a tax if one had no insurance. That tax has been repealed. Because ACA has not been repealed in full, yes, the mandate technically is still in place sans the tax. However, defacto, there is no legal penalty for not having health insurance, and the mandate is effectively dead and can be ignored. In short, the ACA individual mandate is moot, as there is no enforcement mechanism or penalty.
[QUOTE=Dash;4630265]
I used to agonize over it, now I consider them as just different, and like their company for different reasons.
Having grown my net worth makes me feel power over them, because I know they have an Achilles heel, the desire for easy cash.
[/QUOTE]Wisdom of the ages.
Dr. Sigmund Freud: What do women want?
Mad Men's Roger Sterling: Who cares?
I know what I want. That's good enough for me.
I too have had somebody tip off a SB that I was asking about them on here one time and she made the date, but stood me up and then told me afterwards. So I don't get it guys, we should be here for one another. Not sure the motive of tipping off TooCharmy as she is ready to go with just about anyone, but my point, whoever is doing this, one of you, two of you or whoever you are, please stop!
[QUOTE=HottRod66;4630570]$50 She claimed she'd send 4 videos 6-10 minutes each & like 15 pictures. After I posted on here some white night member screen shot my post which she promptly responded to me & sent a 9 second video & maybe 8 pictures far from what she promised!! To the member that screen shot the post & sent it her thanks & also f*ck You & her!! Screen shot this 1 to idgaf![/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=BStreet;4631751]I too have had somebody tip off a SB that I was asking about them on here one time and she made the date, but stood me up and then told me afterwards. So I don't get it guys, we should be here for one another. Not sure the motive of tipping off TooCharmy as she is ready to go with just about anyone, but my point, whoever is doing this, one of you, two of you or whoever you are, please stop!
.[/QUOTE]I don't understand the reasoning for tipping her off at all. She has known about this site for a long time. The first time I met her before I realized she was a utr / pro she started talking my ears off about the guys from this site. She wouldn't shut up about it to the point that I had to tell her I was pressed for time and needed to get things moving just to shut her up.
Guess I will chime in. Short rant. Prepaying and WK'ing on here will never stop. Just move on. Is what it is. Day after day on here, city after city you can read the stories. Guys will prepay and send money for pics, vids, used panties, gas money, dinner etc. And get ripped off. Just read the post's. Nothing you / we post will change that. They have to learn the hard way. No need to complain about why so many girls are scamming on these sites. You have your answer every time you read about another guy paying for online shit or M&G and getting scammed. These girl's (guy's probably) can make several hundred dollars a week (or more) and never have to be touched or seen in person.
The Knights are frustrated boy's on here that have their number from messaging them. They were either rejected, to cheap to pay the price you enjoyed her pussy for, quoted a much higher price than you got or were stupid enough to think they were the only one enjoying her puss. Is what it is.
[QUOTE=BStreet;4631751]I too have had somebody tip off a SB that I was asking about them on here one time and she made the date, but stood me up and then told me afterwards. So I don't get it guys, we should be here for one another. Not sure the motive of tipping off TooCharmy as she is ready to go with just about anyone, but my point, whoever is doing this, one of you, two of you or whoever you are, please stop!
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[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4631933]I don't understand the reasoning for tipping her off at all. She has known about this site for a long time. The first time I met her before I realized she was a utr / pro she started talking my ears off about the guys from this site. She wouldn't shut up about it to the point that I had to tell her I was pressed for time and needed to get things moving just to shut her up.[/QUOTE]Yea maybe she did intend on getting back to me who knows but her. After I sent money through pay pal she claimed she was at McDonald's were she could use Wi-Fi to send them &that was the last I heard from her until the follow member sent screen ot of my post. I had texted her texted numerous times & didn't get nasty mind you! Idk maybe McDonald's breakfast caused her Bain fade!!
Hey all!
Has anyone had the pleasure of meeting this girl? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f02fee3a-fd3f-48e1-9fba-b8b03836e80b[/URL].
We are texting and I'm about to set up an M&G. Her profile makes me think she is more pro and may be the straight to the FC type which is even better.
Any info would be great!
Thanks and be safe!
[QUOTE=HottRod66;4630570]$50 She claimed she'd send 4 videos 6-10 minutes each & like 15 pictures. After I posted on here some white night member screen shot my post which she promptly responded to me & sent a 9 second video & maybe 8 pictures far from what she promised!! To the member that screen shot the post & sent it her thanks & also f*ck You & her!! Screen shot this 1 to idgaf![/QUOTE]I now always assume they are either actively following this forum or there are Mongers passing information.
I met this lovely lady a couple years ago - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1.[/URL] She is more UTR than SB and I know a few of you have met her over the years. We had a nice M&G and then had some trouble making schedules work for a while. She texted late 1 night that she was close by and wanted to know if she could crash at my place. She did but unfortunately I had had a few drinks and couldn't make things happen. Anyway, schedules continued to be a mess and eventually we fell out of touch.
Then I set up a new profile on SA a couple months ago and we reconnected and again were trying to set up a date. But in the meantime she saw a bunch of my posts in the General, Escort and SW forums. She sent me screenshots of a few reviews I had posted and I guess she assumed that I am a hoe that will fuck anything that moves and now she won't speak to me. Its a shame, I really liked her.
[QUOTE=FanRat;4632814]Hey all!
Has anyone had the pleasure of meeting this girl? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f02fee3a-fd3f-48e1-9fba-b8b03836e80b[/URL].
We are texting and I'm about to set up an M&G. Her profile makes me think she is more pro and may be the straight to the FC type which is even better.
Any info would be great!
Thanks and be safe![/QUOTE]Serious stripper vibe. Offered to drive to CVille "Usually 400 but I'm doing a walmart special if you can help me out 😓ill help you hard or soft and super flexable".
[QUOTE=FanRat;4632847]I now always assume they are either actively following this forum or there are Mongers passing information.
I met this lovely lady a couple years ago - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1.[/URL] She is more UTR than SB and I know a few of you have met her over the years. We had a nice M&G and then had some trouble making schedules work for a while. She texted late 1 night that she was close by and wanted to know if she could crash at my place. She did but unfortunately I had had a few drinks and couldn't make things happen. Anyway, schedules continued to be a mess and eventually we fell out of touch.
Then I set up a new profile on SA a couple months ago and we reconnected and again were trying to set up a date. But in the meantime she saw a bunch of my posts in the General, Escort and SW forums. She sent me screenshots of a few reviews I had posted and I guess she assumed that I am a hoe that will fuck anything that moves and now she won't speak to me. Its a shame, I really liked her.[/QUOTE]Profile is down, what was her screenname? Thanks.
[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4632891]Profile is down, what was her screenname? Thanks.[/QUOTE]It was literally up a half hour ago and now its down. I have to assume she saw my post and took it down. Screenname was LikesToHike.
[QUOTE=FanRat;4632910]It was literally up a half hour ago and now its down. I have to assume she saw my post and took it down. Screenname was LikesToHike.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1[/URL]
[QUOTE=GeechieDan;4632951][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1[/URL][/QUOTE]Thats her. Maybe I copied the link wrong? Who knows. Thanks!
[QUOTE=FanRat;4632847]I now always assume they are either actively following this forum or there are Mongers passing information.
I met this lovely lady a couple years ago - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1.[/URL] She is more UTR than SB and I know a few of you have met her over the years. We had a nice M&G and then had some trouble making schedules work for a while. She texted late 1 night that she was close by and wanted to know if she could crash at my place. She did but unfortunately I had had a few drinks and couldn't make things happen. Anyway, schedules continued to be a mess and eventually we fell out of touch.
Then I set up a new profile on SA a couple months ago and we reconnected and again were trying to set up a date. But in the meantime she saw a bunch of my posts in the General, Escort and SW forums. She sent me screenshots of a few reviews I had posted and I guess she assumed that I am a hoe that will fuck anything that moves and now she won't speak to me. Its a shame, I really liked her.[/QUOTE]Did you use the same username? Unless you're reviewing her how would she know it's you?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/258717c6-04ea-4827-8603-690db2fecb9d[/URL]
Guess she's trying to ditch her bad reputation with a new screen name and pic but the same language in her description.
[QUOTE=TechSticles;4633035]Did you use the same username? Unless you're reviewing her how would she know it's you?[/QUOTE]My name here is the same as my old profile on SA when she and I first met. Really didn't think that would be a problem at the time. Hindsight, huh?
[QUOTE=FanRat;4633402]My name here is the same as my old profile on SA when she and I first met. Really didn't think that would be a problem at the time. Hindsight, huh?[/QUOTE]For sure. I remember the good old days when I created the same username profile everywhere just to make it simple. Stopped doing that a few years ago, since a post on Reddit or a "civvie" board could follow me to more private areas.
[QUOTE=HottRod66;4632419]Yea maybe she did intend on getting back to me who knows but her. After I sent money through pay pal she claimed she was at McDonald's were she could use Wi-Fi to send them &that was the last I heard from her until the follow member sent screen ot of my post. I had texted her texted numerous times & didn't get nasty mind you! Idk maybe McDonald's breakfast caused her Bain fade!![/QUOTE]In the end, you aren't missing anything with her. She's the last girl I'd pay for pictures on that site. She's sent me numerous pics / vids over the last several months trying to get me to see her again. She'll do anything for a buck honestly. I messed with her and had her send some unusually close up pictures of her asshole. It's not the prettiest thing you've ever seen.
[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4633549]In the end, you aren't missing anything with her. She's the last girl I'd pay for pictures on that site. She's sent me numerous pics / vids over the last several months trying to get me to see her again. She'll do anything for a buck honestly. I messed with her and had her send some unusually close up pictures of her asshole. It's not the prettiest thing you've ever seen.[/QUOTE]Yea I looked back through the board at other reports & sounds like she needs to get a hotel room on Midlothian & take on all cummers because that's what's she's been doing anyway!! I'm by no means a pic / video buyer either but little head made me do it. She wanted regular meet up & both of us get off SA!! Yea right!
[QUOTE=Dash;4630265]The odd thing about the female species is she may like you, even be jealous of you, but she still can't resist lying to and manipulating you. This for men is confusing. I used to agonize over it, now I consider them as just different, and like their company for different reasons. Having grown my net worth makes me feel power over them, because I know they have an Achilles heel, the desire for easy cash. I try to resist being crude to them, to allow them the fantasy of a helpful guy.[/QUOTE]Your last sentence summarizes what I think is the key to getting lots of cheap pussy (which often leads to free pussy). It's not about being a young handsome male -- that's not what most of them want anyway. Most of them are in this because in their mainstream life they have very little power over anybody or anything. Realizing they have a valuable asset between their legs, the idea of using it to get Daddy to do things her way is enormously appealing. They feel like they have "won" something by getting you to agree on an amount (even though they are terrible negotiators). Most of them do not yet have a real perception of the value of a hundred and fifty bucks versus three hundred bucks. If they are 18 there is a good chance they've never had more than two hundred cash in their hand at one time in their lives. Any sort of buying power is still power, as it removes them from what they are used to (parents controlling purchases or just flat out telling them no to spend requests).
Learning to play upon this underlying power-seeking motive will take an SD incredibly far. Learning to approach every potential SB like a sales opportunity and doing so tactfully can result in so many great things. Being too obvious or direct doesn't pay as many dividends.
Before and up to the initial M&G I try play the role of the guy they are initially looking for. A gullible and generous guy with more dollars than sense, someone so gullible that even a college girl could convince him to do anything she wants. That is an incredibly attractive situation for them. The opportunity for unlimited power of someone who is already powerful. Then usually either right before the FC or after, I start gently unveiling the reality that it is in fact me that's in control here. The FC is the perfect place for this, because once the clothes are off, my true nature tends to materialize and I couldn't pretend to be gullible or not in charge of the situation if I tried.
There is something about that pendulum swing from one contrast to the next that seems to grab them (not all, but more than enough to keep me well supplied). I stumbled on that by accident, but it's been so effective for me that it has become my defacto strategy. It's amazing how quickly they go from demanding X amount to being happy having one forth of that given to them after each visit.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4623699]And we're paragons of truth? I have a whole fake life I present to these girls, to keep my real life safe. I don't have a big problem w / people doing what they need to do to keep themselves secure in this activity. [/QUOTE]I think you misunderstood what I meant. I lie all the time in interactions involving the sugar hobby. But it's only for purposes of getting as much hot pussy for as cheap as possible and avoiding any negative impact to my personal life or career. I become a reluctant salesman of sorts. When I said most women are inherently dishonest, especially when it comes to admitting to sexual activity, I'm talking about a phenomenon that is generally present in women outside of the sugaring context.
Society tends to stigmatize and penalize dishonesty in males, but women typically get a free pass on this whether it's lying about their age, number of sexual partners, or whatever.