"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Has anyone intel on this one. I am pretty sure she is utr pro, but still might be interested if not bad.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/100b4682-62b5-40dd-b052-f09b9a184c01[/URL]

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4588715]Has anyone intel on this one. I am pretty sure she is utr pro, but still might be interested if not bad.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/100b4682-62b5-40dd-b052-f09b9a184c01[/URL][/QUOTE]Supposedly she's got a really tight pussy but a shitty personality. I texted with her for awhile but she seems so wacky that I didn't go through with it. Search the forum from the last two months.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4588715]Has anyone intel on this one. I am pretty sure she is utr pro, but still might be interested if not bad.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/100b4682-62b5-40dd-b052-f09b9a184c01[/URL][/QUOTE]Not really worth the time or effort, IMHO. She wanted 300. I talked her down to 150 and she was still overpriced. Nice enough young lady, but there's drama in them there hills and she'll talk your head off about it.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4588715]Has anyone intel on this one. I am pretty sure she is utr pro, but still might be interested if not bad.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/100b4682-62b5-40dd-b052-f09b9a184c01[/URL][/QUOTE]Who cares if she's UTR or not? She's giving up pussy for money no matter what pretty name you put on it. This girl's pussy is tight and definitely worth it. Not a saggy old hag. You don't have to go through drama if you just meet up and bang the shit out of her. The drama comes with the senseless, non-stop texting that some of you guys love for some reason.

I'm in the process of moving to Richmond. What percentage of the Richmond Seeking girls are same-day service? I definitely don't have time to chat or pretend that we have anything in common when I just want to screw and send them home.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4585699]Yes she's only good for an occasional pounding. She was seeing me for $75 a visit and she hosted so it was basically free pussy. She'd take in any hole that you want to put it in.[/QUOTE]How do I get in touch with her?

[QUOTE=FanRat;4571799]Hey guys! Sorry for the long post.

Below is a list of girls on SA that I am actively messaging or texting with. Some of them are very close to setting up an M&G.

If I were to do coffee, drinks or lunch with all of them Ill barely have the $ leftover for the arrangement LOL.

So I am hoping you guys can help me prioritize. If you have any info please let me know. I appreciate it!

Thanks and be safe!

Cclaud, 22 yo Asian girl - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f27aa004-7dff-4c76-8622-bd665564b2c5[/URL].

- Quoted 300 ppm for anything but FS. Making out, cuddling & oral.

Bbyyxtrixx, 19 yo Latina girl - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2d04324f-d575-43da-87d5-c6d5f4cb01e4[/URL].

RVAVal, 29 yo White girl - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bcfdbd5b-6a0b-4ccd-a30d-165d8a817a5a[/URL].

DayaSekani, 18 yo Black girl - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5a3931c4-ee2f-4211-9eae-26ee7ab33156[/URL]...[/QUOTE]Is she down for PPM. Share her #.

[QUOTE=Jacko52;4590530]I'm in the process of moving to Richmond. What percentage of the Richmond Seeking girls are same-day service? I definitely don't have time to chat or pretend that we have anything in common when I just want to screw and send them home.[/QUOTE]It's completely hit or miss. For the most part, the 18-20 yo girls require some communication for a day or two before they will agree to meet you although there are a few that will meet after a few texts. Once you get into the mid 20's there are a lot more that are open to meeting without building any kind of trust. You just have to feel them out. I always have a girl or two that I'm working on getting comfortable to meet me at the FC while also concentrating on the girls that are more open to quick meets.

[QUOTE=Machaz1;4591205]Is she down for PPM. Share her #.[/QUOTE]So far no luck with her and the FC. Her profile doesn't say it but she tells me she wants a platonic arrangement. If she has told anyone anything different I'd love to know.

She says we can revisit that later if I'm not satisfied with things but IDK what to think. She seems very shy and reserved in regards to intimacy.

Lately I have seen her on the site a lot but she is also out of school rn and may be just bored. She is a little stoner chick so I have had her over to smoke a few times and she is very cool, very fun to hang out with and has not asked for any $.

Ill let you all know if things change.

Be safe!

This morning I notice I cannot see her profile anymore. Has she blocked me (IDK why she would. We text every day and see each other every week) or has she taken it down?

If anyone can check I'd appreciate it.

[QUOTE=FanRat;4591469]So far no luck with her and the FC. Her profile doesn't say it but she tells me she wants a platonic arrangement. If she has told anyone anything different I'd love to know.

She says we can revisit that later if I'm not satisfied with things but IDK what to think. She seems very shy and reserved in regards to intimacy.

Lately I have seen her on the site a lot but she is also out of school rn and may be just bored. She is a little stoner chick so I have had her over to smoke a few times and she is very cool, very fun to hang out with and has not asked for any $.

Ill let you all know if things change.

Be safe![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4591449]It's completely hit or miss. For the most part, the 18-20 yo girls require some communication for a day or two before they will agree to meet you although there are a few that will meet after a few texts. Once you get into the mid 20's there are a lot more that are open to meeting without building any kind of trust. You just have to feel them out. I always have a girl or two that I'm working on getting comfortable to meet me at the FC while also concentrating on the girls that are more open to quick meets.[/QUOTE]How do you know how much to offer them if you don't meet them first? I've never met a girl who looked like her picture. Some look better than their picture, some look worse. I wouldn't want to offend a "10" with a low offer. And I would feel like an idiot if I gave an "average-6" a high offer because she had a great pic. Pics and reality are two completely different things.

[QUOTE=FanRat;4591511]This morning I notice I cannot see her profile anymore. Has she blocked me (IDK why she would. We text every day and see each other every week) or has she taken it down?

If anyone can check I'd appreciate it.[/QUOTE]She says she's platonic and hasn't asked you for any money. Has she told you what she's doing on the site? Platonic SBs should be banned. They don't understand the nature of the site. There seems to be more and more of them lately. Are you sure that she's not just stringing you along thinking she'll get more money in the end? Its shocking how many of these prostitutes want us to believe they're the Virgin Mary.

[QUOTE=FanRat;4591511]This morning I notice I cannot see her profile anymore. Has she blocked me (IDK why she would. We text every day and see each other every week) or has she taken it down?

If anyone can check I'd appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Seems to be gone.

[QUOTE=Jacko52;4590530]I'm in the process of moving to Richmond. What percentage of the Richmond Seeking girls are same-day service? I definitely don't have time to chat or pretend that we have anything in common when I just want to screw and send them home.[/QUOTE]Same day service is easy to find in Richmond. First, skip all of unnecessary pleasantries. There's no reason to waste time telling them how beautiful they are because the last 50 guys in their inbox said the exact same thing. Skip telling them your life story. Immediately ask them if they're looking for a platonic or physical arrangement. If they say physical, ask them how they would like to proceed. Do they host? I'd ask this right away or you get stuck chatting for no reason with no place to fuck. That would be a total waste of time. The girls who say they are looking for a physical arrangement are going to want to meet up as soon as possible because they're in a bad financial situation and they've decided to take the plunge and go through with this. The girls who want physical arrangements are the ones who insist that you go straight to the FC immediately after the meet and greet or else they don't want to do a meet-and-greet at all. It's easy to find them. They'll ask about the FC repeatedly. They are ready and willing to give you what you want no hassle, no BS.

[QUOTE=Sterling44;4591680]Same day service is easy to find in Richmond. First, skip all of unnecessary pleasantries. There's no reason to waste time telling them how beautiful they are because the last 50 guys in their inbox said the exact same thing. Skip telling them your life story. Immediately ask them if they're looking for a platonic or physical arrangement. If they say physical, ask them how they would like to proceed. Do they host? I'd ask this right away or you get stuck chatting for no reason with no place to fuck. That would be a total waste of time. The girls who say they are looking for a physical arrangement are going to want to meet up as soon as possible because they're in a bad financial situation and they've decided to take the plunge and go through with this. The girls who want physical arrangements are the ones who insist that you go straight to the FC immediately after the meet and greet or else they don't want to do a meet-and-greet at all. It's easy to find them. They'll ask about the FC repeatedly. They are ready and willing to give you what you want no hassle, no BS.[/QUOTE]It really depends on the experience that you're looking for. Obviously all of these girls are trading sex for money so they are prostitutes in a sense but if you're looking for a more intimate experience it's going to take more time and work. Almost every girl that meets in the FC the same day after minimal texting is much higher volume and will give a much more transactional experience. If that's all this guy cares about then same day should be fine for him. There have been a couple girls reviewed in the last couple of days that will work great for that. Charmy will provide this and is easy to set up.

For me, I enjoy the whole experience. I like the build up. I met a 19 yo in the FC last week. We had a nice lunch and talked for 2 hours before the panties came off. That 2 hours of looking at this hot poa knowing that she'd be naked soon made it even better. After the deed was done we still hung out and talked for a while before we parted ways. It just makes for a better experience for me. Out of all the girls I've seen in the past few months from Seeking I think charmy is the only one that I met the same day we started talking. The rest of them are very low to zero volume girls that were just dipping their toes into the sugar game so it took some time to get them to trust me. I also only meet these girls at the FC so I've missed out on some of the first timers because they just weren't comfortable with that.

Been chatting with her a week. Getting the 'I'm a virgin' story. Just curious if anyone has met her.

Also, got a urge for a certain type. Looking for a 19-22, blonde, petite girl. Looking for one that wants ppm and doesn't want to text forever. Any recommendations are appreciated.

[QUOTE=MineTooTell;4591820]Been chatting with her a week. Getting the 'I'm a virgin' story. Just curious if anyone has met her.

Also, got a urge for a certain type. Looking for a 19-22, blonde, petite girl. Looking for one that wants ppm and doesn't want to text forever. Any recommendations are appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've been talking to her for a few days on Snapchat. She definitely claims she's a virgin and isn't looking for anything physical. Claims she was raped anally by her last bf so she isn't open to meeting anyone. She's full of drama and I actually suspect that she's under 18.

[QUOTE=MineTooTell;4591820]Also, got a urge for a certain type. Looking for a 19-22, blonde, petite girl. Looking for one that wants ppm and doesn't want to text forever. Any recommendations are appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you find a girl like that, let me know. That would be like winning the lottery.

[QUOTE=ShoreDog;4591620]How do you know how much to offer them if you don't meet them first? I've never met a girl who looked like her picture. Some look better than their picture, some look worse. I wouldn't want to offend a "10" with a low offer. And I would feel like an idiot if I gave an "average-6" a high offer because she had a great pic. Pics and reality are two completely different things.[/QUOTE]This is exactly why negotiating online before meeting has always been an issue for me. They never look like you expect them too. If I went on picture and money alone, I would have missed some of the greatest pussy of my life. And if a girl quotes me 300 through text without even meeting me for a quick 5 min drink first, it means that she'll fuck any guy with $300. That turns my stomach a little. I like to negotiate what we're both willing to do at a meet and greet so we're both happy. Being quoted a price over text is like getting an insurance quote. I don't want to feel like one of the herd.

[QUOTE=BigOne73;4592002]This is exactly why negotiating online before meeting has always been an issue for me. They never look like you expect them too. If I went on picture and money alone, I would have missed some of the greatest pussy of my life. And if a girl quotes me 300 through text without even meeting me for a quick 5 min drink first, it means that she'll fuck any guy with $300. That turns my stomach a little. I like to negotiate what we're both willing to do at a meet and greet so we're both happy. Being quoted a price over text is like getting an insurance quote. I don't want to feel like one of the herd.[/QUOTE]I guess you guys have more free time than I do. I don't have time for m&g's or time to meet a girl at Starbucks only for her to tell me she wants 1 k to send an hour or two with me. I have no problem discussing money via text. If found the sweet spot to be $200-250 for a few hours of play time. I've fucked some extremely hot 18-22 yo low volume girls for that and they were all negotiated prior to meeting at the FC.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4591884]I've been talking to her for a few days on Snapchat. She definitely claims she's a virgin and isn't looking for anything physical. Claims she was raped anally by her last bf so she isn't open to meeting anyone. She's full of drama and I actually suspect that she's under 18.[/QUOTE]I'm on snap with her also. I haven't heard the rape story. Just how horrible her parents treat her and verbally abuse her. She does come across as younger than she says. It's strange, she's never asked for money or tried to sell pics. Maybe she's just playing a game.

[QUOTE=MineTooTell;4592116]I'm on snap with her also. I haven't heard the rape story. Just how horrible her parents treat her and verbally abuse her. She does come across as younger than she says. It's strange, she's never asked for money or tried to sell pics. Maybe she's just playing a game.[/QUOTE]Yeah she complains about her parents like crazy. I think she's just bored and wants someone to talk to. I'm not interested in being someone's sounding board.

[QUOTE=MineTooTell;4591820]

Also, got a urge for a certain type. Looking for a 19-22, blonde, petite girl. Looking for one that wants ppm and doesn't want to text forever. Any recommendations are appreciated.[/QUOTE]Isn't that what 99% of us are looking for?

Has anyone talked to her or better yet met her? Let me know if you're willing to share information about her. Thanks!

[QUOTE=HankMoody;4592988]Isn't that what 99% of us are looking for[/QUOTE[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f2a7ddc3-ad9e-41b4-9cf4-278d96b8eb42[/URL]

Guys:

I have run into a lot of SCAM artist on SA recently. I think they think we are that desperate to meet somebody. I was chatting with redheadedstudent2230 about an arrangement and she quoted jme she wants a minimum of $700 each time we meet. I said hell no to that offer. They keep requesting that I send them money in advance of meeting them. I politely said no. Hopefully things will get back to some sense of normal after the first of the year. Be safe and careful.

Rvaexec.

The following are girls who I see regularly on SA but either don't respond to messaging or respond once or twice and then don't follow up even though I still see them every day. Any of you actually got anywhere with them?

Shelly-lynn [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a6e0e045-95f7-4922-a818-4353370e8686[/URL].

Stellablue222 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba5efb5-a41f-4a1f-b876-4e217a09772f[/URL].

Geminisb666 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/de0c9351-1b54-432b-8d5c-691c9a35ed5b[/URL].

B3 ACHBAB3 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6e6d79b4-e2f6-4ee7-9296-d3a6e49cd5f5[/URL].

Sb_sarah99 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ca0b789c-0cc7-48a9-89e8-badfdd82941f[/URL].

Moroccanmajesty [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7b7a80d2-5021-4790-9aa9-7be259be0ffe[/URL].

Staylor829 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7eec41a4-ca81-4ead-a363-e919d8f704cb[/URL].

Skyee22 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a3aec854-d853-46a6-be97-e7943eec5bae[/URL].

[QUOTE=HankMoody;4592988]Isn't that what 99% of us are looking for?[/QUOTE]Everyone has their flavor. Got to be one out there somewhere.

[QUOTE=EBob1111;4593334]The following are girls who I see regularly on SA but either don't respond to messaging or respond once or twice and then don't follow up even though I still see them every day. Any of you actually got anywhere with them?[/QUOTE]SA has always attracted a number of bored girls that use it for attention and validation. They get a rush from their inbox getting filled with guys begging them for a bit of their attention. It makes them feel wanted and desired having all these chumps drooling. It's pure escapism and the odds of them meeting anyone are slim to none. Do what you should be doing all along, give it a good shot and then move along when they show they're not in it to meet anyone.

[QUOTE=Jacko52;4590530]I'm in the process of moving to Richmond. What percentage of the Richmond Seeking girls are same-day service? I definitely don't have time to chat or pretend that we have anything in common when I just want to screw and send them home.[/QUOTE]All types are available. I really couldn't give a percentage other than to say anything is possible in the game of sugar. In general I think I can say sugaring is a much more time consuming hobby than patronizing escorts. It's a risk / reward thing where there's a risk of spending a lot of time chatting up a girl only to find the pussy wasn't worth the time investment. That being said, if I wasn't willing to put the time into it and wanted to eliminate risk, no question about it I would just stick to escorts.

[QUOTE=Rvaexec60;4593306]Guys:

I have run into a lot of SCAM artist on SA recently. I think they think we are that desperate to meet somebody. I was chatting with redheadedstudent2230 about an arrangement and she quoted jme she wants a minimum of $700 each time we meet. I said hell no to that offer. They keep requesting that I send them money in advance of meeting them. I politely said no. Hopefully things will get back to some sense of normal after the first of the year. Be safe and careful.

Rvaexec.[/QUOTE]I had a girl in Miami tell me that she doesn't accept less than $10,000 PPM. Many more in the $500-2,000 range.

I just brush it off and move on.

They do it because, sometimes, it works.

Don't get me wrong. No one is giving that $10,000 SB her asking price. But maybe she "settles" for $2,000 for some horny out of town business guy who likes her look.

Anyone ever see her.

Brittsbaknbtr.

[QUOTE=DamnYankee1983;4594541]Anyone ever see her.

Brittsbaknbtr.[/QUOTE]I haven't but she has been reviewed before. If memory serves me correct she was a pro, or at lease under the radar pro. Sweet and does a good job.

[QUOTE=DamnYankee1983;4594541]Anyone ever see her.

Brittsbaknbtr.[/QUOTE]She has been around awhile, there should be some reviews. Ex pro, or utter pro.

[QUOTE=MikeJones1962;4596476]I'm curious what you wrote about covering up your license plate and the VIN number on your car. So you drive around with your license plate covered? Or have it parked with it covered? I'm genuinely curious. It seems like law enforcement would be intrigued by that. It would seem like if you're at that level do you also wear gloves and confiscate anything that could contain your DNA hair etc?

I think the point is if anyone was really that interested in finding who you are in this day it's not difficult. That was the point of what was said to you. Anyway this whole topic is in good fun. We all act like we are James Bond out there after the latest sugar baby but I guess it's part of the thrill![/QUOTE]I have posted on this before over the past several years and it always gets a question. This all depends on your jurisdiction. In California, the police are too busy w / real crime to spend much effort on people w / o license plates. And, new vehicles don't have them, etc. You may recall Steve Jobs avoided ever getting a plate for his Mercedes SLs by simply trading every 6 months, so it is not that unusual in CA for a vehicle to have no plate. If you get a new car, there is a little pocket to put on your windshield for paperwork. The next time I get a new one I will save that.

Also, I try to do stuff like this. Pick a meet location in a big shopping center w / a large parking lot. I can stop and pull off my plate around the corner, then drive up to the Starbucks w / no fear. I am also on private property, it further decreases the likelihood police would get interested.

I am not in any DNA databases, so there's no risk there at this stage. However, some family members have gotten the 23 and Me thing done, I understand that can be used to track down family members who are serial killers. However, I haven't and won't do anything that severe to justify that much trouble.

[QUOTE=MikeJones1962;4596476]I'm curious what you wrote about covering up your license plate and the VIN number on your car. So you drive around with your license plate covered? Or have it parked with it covered? I'm genuinely curious. It seems like law enforcement would be intrigued by that. It would seem like if you're at that level do you also wear gloves and confiscate anything that could contain your DNA hair etc?

I think the point is if anyone was really that interested in finding who you are in this day it's not difficult. That was the point of what was said to you. Anyway this whole topic is in good fun. We all act like we are James Bond out there after the latest sugar baby but I guess it's part of the thrill![/QUOTE]Just one other point. If you have a license tag, you can get the name of the owner via paid online sites. The one I used, I seem to recall it was docusearch, charged $40. I am also confident you can get that info if you hire a PI (or if you are a sugar baby and FC w / a PI for the benefits). So, that's why I do what I do. It's just too darn easy for someone to get to you. And you can go to a site for car trade-ins and enter a VIN, which will provide the license plate #. A crafty SB with mal intent could really f* you up w / this kind of intel.

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I haven't been on the site for many months but getting back in today. So, is it still ok to use the words " physical intimacy" without getting banned and will a Vanilla Visa still work for VIP?

TIA.

Paul.

[QUOTE=PaulRew;4600350]I haven't been on the site for many months but getting back in today. So, is it still ok to use the words " physical intimacy" without getting banned and will a Vanilla Visa still work for VIP?

TIA.

Paul.[/QUOTE]I have the word intimacy in my profile and I use it in messages a lot. IDK if putting physical in front matters.

[QUOTE=PaulRew;4600350]I haven't been on the site for many months but getting back in today. So, is it still ok to use the words " physical intimacy" without getting banned and will a Vanilla Visa still work for VIP?

TIA.

Paul.[/QUOTE]I usually go w "adult fun" and "fun buddy" in my communications. Have never had anyone fail to understand what I'm looking for.