Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Just wrong! I have to bite my tongue when I see posts from other ladies judging other ladies men judging other me based on what the want to pay. As a photographer, my list of "do not shoot" grows.. Yes, I have standards in my photography as well as escorting. Ladies, gentlemen mind your own business!

I have a long list of preferences from race to age to respect! Get over yourself already, you can see the girls I won't. This is America its all about choice you charge whatever you want and I will see whoever I want Problem solved! I'm reading where guys think it's rude that ladies write on this website Geezzzzzzzz The problem is treating women completely like they can be ordered off of a menu and not anything. This is a business, can not loose sight of that ever but at the same time treat the woman who make a living to make us happy with the dignity the deserve.

So you guys need a price guide no problem here you guys go... This can be printed and put in your wallet.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1901092]I don't think we have any business commenting on a girl's rate until we have seen her and paid it. Then it's called a review. Until then any comment on a girl's rate is a Little Dick Opinion. Is that okay to say?[/QUOTE]With respect, every market has customary price points. Right now in BsAs indy's are going for 45-55 an hour. The 55 chicks are hotter. There are some that have tons of reviews, GREAT incalls, and fuck like pornstars that go for up to 100 and hour. (All prices converted to Dollars at the blue rate).

If some girl in this market was advertising for you $S 200, I promise you all the guys here would be asking if her pussy was made of gold. I don't know what is customary and reasonable for Cincy now but if somebody is far outside of that range and guys who haven't see the provider comment on that, and only that, I think it's within bounds.

I think they go too far if they start making a lot of negative comments without having been there, but saying "$XXX. XX in this market? She's nuts. You can see X and why and Z for half that." Or 80% or whatever it is.

Disclaimer; I'm not saying anybody is out of bounds, I honestly don't pay attention to the pricing up there, I think it's all crazy.

This is my latest you $S 55.00 girl [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Abril_15-4068-5627_12560.htm[/URL] so I'm spoiled.

As I scroll these pages, reading the same ole posts, regarding provider rates. I keep thinking the same thing to myself: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Surely it is that simple. Each individuals preference is different and is not meant to be universal. If you aren't willing to pay what a lady is asking, scroll on. If you can't find her here, she is out there somewhere. If you have found her here, kudos to you, book a date with her and by all means, go enjoy her! Stop complaining about the rates of other providers, who don't appeal to your preference guidelines in the first place.

Kisses from yours truly.

Cameron X

I am a strong believer that you get what you pay for. This opinion stands for myself and other I'm sure. I don't see what the point in bringing it to everyone's attention. Most guys have nothing to say about rates but there always is that percentage that does and if they do they should just keep on scrolling down the page not make a feild day of it. Like there is nothing else to do. I too have been annoyed with complaining of the rates! I personally think she, I and every girl out there is entitled of making our own rates and is worth it. It depends on if the guy wants mediocre service of outstanding service. And people don't hate me for my opinion just my 2 cents.

One the flip side keep making it happen girls! & happpy hunting to all them fellas!

Xoxox-SSS

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;1900925]Maybe everyone should agree to disagree on the subject of SD rates. She is a grown woman and a well reviewed provider and she is the is the most reviewed and top provider on NR. Her rates are high for a reason and she may provide many things and most of all things that you can't get from all providers here. She doesn't have a no no list as most providers on here do have a no no list of some sort. But regardless she is a sweet sweet girl and has the right to charge what she does as every provider does. Some of providers should charge more and some should charge less. But it's to everyone's own right. There are many men that have lots of money to spend and think that anything less than $$ to $$.5 is valuable enuf where as someone else on a lower budget may think that $ is too much to spend. So just my two cents everyone should agree to disagree on her rates and leave it at that or maybe one should go pay the $250 and see what she is all about. But the ones who have seen her and paid the rate have always been more than pleased and never once complained of the rates. But let's agree that no one is talking about the rates about providers that are under charging and other providers that are over charging so why just SD. She has always been very sweet to everyone and even tho I am a provider and not a hobbyist an my two cents may not matter, she isn't the only provider who rates may or may not be what they should be. So let's move on and talk about something that does matter. Help out the newbies who don't know so much and keep reviewing the great providers and the not so great ones. Let's get back on te subject of pussy here fellas. We have soap operas on tv to watch. No one wants the guide to be one too. Now who is ready to have some fun here. I sure in the hell have been and wantin more.

Be Safe and Happy Hunting to everyone. And let's get back on track gentlemen.[/QUOTE]

[blue]The post I had made here was intended as a joke referencing Dustin Hoffman's character in the movie Rain Man. It was pointed out to me that people who deal with this issue might not see the humor. It wasn't my intention to be cruel, but it was insensitive, so apologies to any that took offence.

Sometimes I'm a douche.

A2[/blue]

It cracks me up that in a place where we freely talk about so many things that are generally considered immoral and illegal (at least in the USA) that somebody would get their panties in a wad over something like that.

Grow the fuck up people and stop being such pussies about everything.
[LIST]You don't like a comment? Ignore it.[/LIST][LIST]You don't like a provider? Don't see her.[/LIST][LIST]Don't like the rates? Find one you like.[/LIST][LIST]Don't like another monger? Ignore him.[/LIST][LIST]Don't like this board? Go the fuck away.[/LIST][LIST]Don't like my opinion? Like I give a shit.[/LIST]
-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1902414][blue]The post I had made here was intended as a joke referencing Dustin Hoffman's character in the movie Rain Man. It was pointed out to me that people who deal with this issue might not see the humor. It wasn't my intention to be cruel, but it was insensitive, so apologies to any that took offence.

Sometimes I'm a douche.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]

Amen, brother, amen!

[QUOTE=BigBird69;1902729]It cracks me up that in a place where we freely talk about so many things that are generally considered immoral and illegal (at least in the USA) that somebody would get their panties in a wad over something like that.

Grow the fuck up people and stop being such pussies about everything.
[LIST]You don't like a comment? Ignore it.[/LIST][LIST]You don't like a provider? Don't see her.[/LIST][LIST]Don't like the rates? Find one you like.[/LIST][LIST]Don't like another monger? Ignore him.[/LIST][LIST]Don't like this board? Go the fuck away.[/LIST][LIST]Don't like my opinion? Like I give a shit.[/LIST]
-BigBird69.[/QUOTE]In general I agree with you Bird, but in this case it wasn't an issue of not being PC, it really was douchey.

A2.

Well, we already knew you were a douche. I mean what kind of person would just flaunt all that hot tail right in our faces when they know that it is way out of reach for us!?

If my company ever gets a contract down in your neck of the woods, I'm volunteering to head down there and handle it. It would be one heck of a sacrifice for the good of my company.

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1902875]In general I agree with you Bird, but in this case it wasn't an issue of not being PC, it really was douchey.

A2.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBird69;1903003]Well, we already knew you were a douche. I mean what kind of person would just flaunt all that hot tail right in our faces when they know that it is way out of reach for us!?

If my company ever gets a contract down in your neck of the woods, I'm volunteering to head down there and handle it. It would be one heck of a sacrifice for the good of my company.

-BigBird69.[/QUOTE]I would give you a line up if you do. This new one is seriously rocking my world. I saw her again today.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1903233]I would give you a line up if you do. This new one is seriously rocking my world. I saw her again today.[/QUOTE]I can do better.

I know you are tired of discussing providers rates but I have a question that I'd like a little feedback on. I wasn't sure where to put this so I settled here. I'll be out of town for a couple of days in the near future. I have been researching their local talent. I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? Now I understand that this makes me sound kinda cheap but a couple of years ago when I was traveling regularly this was my standard practice. I would invite the lady to dinner to break the ice and get comfortable then upstairs for a couple of hours. I was never asked to figure meal time into her compensation. The second hour has always been discounted in my experience. I am hoping for a little feedback in open forum especially from the ladies. What do you think? Are things different or am I just spoiled. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Mainstreet;1903476] I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? [/QUOTE]Yes, it does seem right. While some gals offer dinner+ dates as an all inclusive, some do not. If you want her company for two hours...you pay for two hours...after all it is her time you are paying for eh?

Now I will say I find this rare, especially currently. Most (local) women are more than happy to have a nice meal, and will do so off the clock (provided there is a booked date following). Traveling women most likely will not include it...as an hour of their time is critical when they are only in town for a day. Though some will jump at the chance to get out of the hotel.

I would see her for two hours...then ask if she wants dinner after.

If a particular provider is busy and turning away appointments to spend four hours with you but you only want to pay her for two discounted hours, she is losing money and probably will not be able to fulfill your request. However, perhaps you are booking with a provider who isn't as busy and she doesn't mind spending four hours with you at a two hour discounted rate because she doesn't have the business in the first place, so she isn't really losing anything. While some providers may go for this, most expect to be compensated. Unless the provider knows you and enjoys spending time with you, then there maybe some flexibility in the situation.

[QUOTE=Mainstreet;1903476]I know you are tired of discussing providers rates but I have a question that I'd like a little feedback on. I wasn't sure where to put this so I settled here. I'll be out of town for a couple of days in the near future. I have been researching their local talent. I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? Now I understand that this makes me sound kinda cheap but a couple of years ago when I was traveling regularly this was my standard practice. I would invite the lady to dinner to break the ice and get comfortable then upstairs for a couple of hours. I was never asked to figure meal time into her compensation. The second hour has always been discounted in my experience. I am hoping for a little feedback in open forum especially from the ladies. What do you think? Are things different or am I just spoiled. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mainstreet;1903476]I know you are tired of discussing providers rates but I have a question that I'd like a little feedback on. I wasn't sure where to put this so I settled here. I'll be out of town for a couple of days in the near future. I have been researching their local talent. I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? Now I understand that this makes me sound kinda cheap but a couple of years ago when I was traveling regularly this was my standard practice. I would invite the lady to dinner to break the ice and get comfortable then upstairs for a couple of hours. I was never asked to figure meal time into her compensation. The second hour has always been discounted in my experience. I am hoping for a little feedback in open forum especially from the ladies. What do you think? Are things different or am I just spoiled. Thanks![/QUOTE]I have always as I think most providers offer a discounted rate for multiple hour appointments, so I can see the lady asking for a donation for her time with dinner, but at a discounted rate being that you also want 2 hour bcd time. If the lady you contacted is asking for her full donation, and not offering a discount, no I don't think you are being unreasonable expecting a discount. Just my two cents.

I would expect that the provider was to be paid for all her time regardless of whether it is dinner or fun. However, I would also expect that a 3 hour date not cost the same as three separate 1 hour encounters. If you look at most providers rates, their 1 hour date is not double their 30 minute rate which indicates that there is a discount the longer you book. On the same note, if you look at an overnight rate, it is rarely the cost of 12 x 1 hours encounters.

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=Mainstreet;1903476]I know you are tired of discussing providers rates but I have a question that I'd like a little feedback on. I wasn't sure where to put this so I settled here. I'll be out of town for a couple of days in the near future. I have been researching their local talent. I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? Now I understand that this makes me sound kinda cheap but a couple of years ago when I was traveling regularly this was my standard practice. I would invite the lady to dinner to break the ice and get comfortable then upstairs for a couple of hours. I was never asked to figure meal time into her compensation. The second hour has always been discounted in my experience. I am hoping for a little feedback in open forum especially from the ladies. What do you think? Are things different or am I just spoiled. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HelpMeRhonda;1903641]I have always as I think most providers offer a discounted rate for multiple hour appointments, so I can see the lady asking for a donation for her time with dinner, but at a discounted rate being that you also want 2 hour bcd time. If the lady you contacted is asking for her full donation, and not offering a discount, no I don't think you are being unreasonable expecting a discount. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]I also think that most providers would offer a TLN (todo la noche) price. I certainly wouldn't see one that expected to earn as much per hour eating dinner as they did blowing me. But I don't understand a lot of what is considered customary up there. I read a report the other day where some chick said she wouldn't do cowgirl. WTF? Not saying she doesn't have the right to say no to whatever, but still WTF?

This one has been bugging me since years ago, so I'll post / pose it:

What is meant by my Cross Contamination title is the fact that dudes chasing street walkers are also seeing regular working girls. It weirds me out when I notice a username and I check their history and see he's straddling both worlds. And they are worlds apart. Or at least so I think. I mean that down isn't taking tests, and is doing all kinds of nasty stuff on a nightly basis. Forget the humanity for a sec, and then you get a BBJ from her for next to nothing and then go see one of the regular girls. No thanks. And when I see that, that chick will never get a call from me. I can't tell if the quality on the board is getting low, because some the women are about close to street walker level and then come the experiences that sound what you would experience from that sector. Please stay away from the girls, and girls, refuse to see those dudes. But it's a two fold thing as I see it.

The debate will rage on about dudes beating down prices, I can't help but see the correlation. But there's always the argument of overpaying. I want quality, but we ain't getting it lately. Not you EE, you're good. I want chicks like Shelly Nineteen and a couple of the blondes that came and went. But we're never going to get it with people bitching about rates.

It's says Escort Ads, not Street Walker ads. But again, I'm having a hard time telling.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;1903558]I agree with Tri on this one. My time is my time, however if you booked two hours then I wouldn't have a problem throwing dinner in there with that two hours. Or fun first for two hoursand then go to dinner. Now if you had no references, that would be a different story. I will also do a dinner date which consists of about 3 hours depending on how long dinner takes and where we go. Good luck hun![/QUOTE]So if you go to Applebee's the dinner date is a get to know you date and you must be compensated for your time but if you go to Ruth's Chris or The Precient that changes things, I'm thinking if you take a lady to dinner she would appreciate a spoiler dinner before or after the booking. Did he suggest a nice restraunt or did he just suggest dinner? I'm sure she doesn't want to commit to a dinner date and it turns out to be TGIF or Applebee's she can go there on her own, suggest a 4-5 star restraunt and see what she says, don't just say dinner that can mean eating anywhere.

"We goin' Sizzler!! We goin' Sizzler!

WOO HOO- Big spenders! ;).

I would say if you have never met before, then you should expect to compensate her for 'all' of her time. If you have met and are 'comfortable' together then maybe dinner is just 'dinner' assuming you are, in fact, going 4-5 star- (I mean really guys, your spending money for 'adult fun'- you better be able to spring for more then 'Golden Corral' ;).

All in, the only real answer is YMMV. But you should not expect 'any' of her time to be free.

Peace.

PK.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1902875]In general I agree with you Bird, but in this case it wasn't an issue of not being PC, it really was douchey.

A2.[/QUOTE]
Awwww, c'mon. Ma!!!! Tell us tell us! And just my 2 cents,.... BUT!! TOO DOUCHEY for the 'Octagon'? I think your getting soft old boy! (bet you've heard THAT more than once!) ;).

Peace.

PK.

[QUOTE=LokiPk;1904072]I think your getting soft old boy! (bet you've heard THAT more than once!) ;).[/QUOTE]Not since Pfizer released vitamin V. On the dinner thing. I got a steady down here that REFUSES any compensation unless we have sex. If she has time to kill and feels like hanging out she will give me a call and come over for tea. Tomorrow we are going to dinner and a movie, if we don't make the beast with two backs she's happy to just spend time with a nice guy. Most of the guys down here, while good looking, are nightmares.

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;1903789]This one has been bugging me since years ago, so I'll post / pose it:
What is meant by my Cross Contamination title is the fact that dudes chasing street walkers are also seeing regular working girls. It weirds me out when I notice a username and I check their history and see he's straddling both worlds. And they are worlds apart. Or at least so I think. I mean that down isn't taking tests, and is doing all kinds of nasty stuff on a nightly basis. Forget the humanity for a sec, and then you get a BBJ from her for next to nothing and then go see one of the regular girls. No thanks. And when I see that, that chick will never get a call from me. I can't tell if the quality on the board is getting low, because some the women are about close to street walker level and then come the experiences that sound what you would experience from that sector. Please stay away from the girls, and girls, refuse to see those dudes. But it's a two fold thing as I see it.
The debate will rage on about dudes beating down prices, I can't help but see the correlation. But there's always the argument of overpaying. I want quality, but we ain't getting it lately. Not you EE, you're good. I want chicks like Shelly Nineteen and a couple of the blondes that came and went. But we're never going to get it with people bitching about rates.
It's says Escort Ads, not Street Walker ads. But again, I'm having a hard time telling.[/QUOTE]Does anyone else here think this is short sighted? This is where you feel unsafe? I'm sorry but I feel this is a close minded, and misguided belief. I am not trying to berate you here..but think about what you are saying. SW's and low priced SP's are the only women who have STD's? Really? I must have missed that day in health class. Here are some facts:

1) "regular working girls" (as you call them) see just as many different men as SW's (maybe more).

2) some "regular working girls" even offer BBFS so there is that.

3) economics has NOTHING to do with safe sex, or chances you will catch an STD.

4) unprotected sex of any kind with multiple partners is risky .5) what if I get a FREE BBBJ from a clerk I meet at sax 5th avenue..and then see a regular gal will you see her? (maybe you already have by proxy).

6) what if I have PROTECTED sex with a heroine addicted SW for a McChicken sandwich is IT OK by you that I participate in the "regular board"?

What about the guys who see SW's and don't post about it? How do you know who they see? Feel safe now? Know the risks of what you are doing here with ANYONE. We all have multiple sex partners...this is risky business...be safe...and get tested regularly.

Peace.

Again it seems EE or Melea has haters...

I have no idea who Xperienced is but whoever it is they are not seeing EE ladies but they sure like to post like they are..

Case in point Sindee has not been available for 2 weeks and yesterday she seen two people and either one are Xperienced.. He also never seen Cat and that therefore is a fake ass review he posted about her...

None of EE ladies are on drugs! None of them are have STD's!! Yes they get checked regularly!

Madee was real..she had reviews on here DUH!! Yes Kadee was crazy in the end I posted about this a month ago..

And Not all the girls have meet each other..they are available for incall in different locations and do not have each others numbers etc..Sindee met Melea and knew Madee but never met May or Cat.

Again..If you want know something ask me..I give full disclosure..Don't post BS Lies on here..Is is no ripoffs going on ...bring your shit to the octagon!!

[QUOTE=TriOval;1904531]Does anyone else here think this is short sighted? This is where you feel unsafe? I'm sorry but I feel this is a close minded, and misguided belief. I am not trying to berate you here..but think about what you are saying. SW's and low priced SP's are the only women who have STD's? Really? I must have missed that day in health class. Here are some facts:

1) "regular working girls" (as you call them) see just as many different men as SW's (maybe more).

2) some "regular working girls" even offer BBFS so there is that.

3) economics has NOTHING to do with safe sex, or chances you will catch an STD.

4) unprotected sex of any kind with multiple partners is risky .5) what if I get a FREE BBBJ from a clerk I meet at sax 5th avenue..and then see a regular gal will you see her? (maybe you already have by proxy).

6) what if I have PROTECTED sex with a heroine addicted SW for a McChicken sandwich is IT OK by you that I participate in the "regular board"?

What about the guys who see SW's and don't post about it? How do you know who they see? Feel safe now? Know the risks of what you are doing here with ANYONE. We all have multiple sex partners...this is risky business...be safe...and get tested regularly.

Peace.[/QUOTE]Apologies, my rant was health and safety but veers into market / quality conditions. But funny you should comment, you're one the dudes mixing it up.

I'll take my chances any day with Escort over a drug addicted, destitute, downtrodden woman. Well, at least some. Draw all the lines you want with number of partners, escorts recklessly doing BBFS, and other shit but my point and the problem becomes crystal clear.

You see no difference between a SW and an Escort / Working girl. And some of the ladies with their behavior and continuance to see your type have helped to blur that line.

Exactly the mindset to which I was trying to get to. And you're points only further my point better than I did.

It's a free board, comment on what you want, where you want. I'm just interested in the mindset of the "Escorts" that are so reference heavy vesting people and look down your posts and see your hawking SW's and don't have any standards, when I though they did. Their ad's and posts act as so. If I were a ladie, I'd refuse to see you. And I wish efforts like mine would drive women out that do, so you'll be able to dedicate all your time to SW's and them alone. But my other point was that your mindset is now causing an infusion of less than quality chicks on the board. And the amount of guys bitching about rates of quality girls. Why wouldn't they? You guys are paying $20-60 dollars for a car hop.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1903730]I also think that most providers would offer a TLN (todo la noche) price. I certainly wouldn't see one that expected to earn as much per hour eating dinner as they did blowing me. But I don't understand a lot of what is considered customary up there. I read a report the other day where some chick said she wouldn't do cowgirl. WTF? Not saying she doesn't have the right to say no to whatever, but still WTF?[/QUOTE]I have heard a lot of things off limits in this business, no cim, no greek, but seriously no cowgirl? Um that's a first, RCG one of my favs!

Anyway back to the lunch or dinner thing, I have had dinner with gents before out bcd time, sometimes I do not ask for anything, especially if we are eating at the hotel, its not like we are driving all over town and its going to turn into a 4 hour date. Others yes, I have done and asked for a small fee, not even close to my normal rate, after all it is a get to know you time and even if we have met before I like catching up on what's been going on in their life. But every provider has their own way of doing things, and I am certainly not one to judge or tell them how to run their business.

Personally, a girl is entitled to charge however she sees fit. On the other hand, us guys are also allowed to accept that or not, as suits us. In my case, if I'm feeling like taking a babe out to dinner after an appointment, (who wants to ball on a full belly?), I'll ask her if she's hungry and wants to join me for dinner. If she wants a little kick for the time, I'll be inclined to help her out. Especially if we have been together a few times, and if she is patient (I'm getting a bit older and stressed, so it takes a bit longer to get a head of steam up than it did when I was in my 40's). I never do half hour dates because its just pointless to me to rush.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1904182]Not since Pfizer released vitamin V. On the dinner thing. I got a steady down here that REFUSES any compensation unless we have sex. If she has time to kill and feels like hanging out she will give me a call and come over for tea. Tomorrow we are going to dinner and a movie, if we don't make the beast with two backs she's happy to just spend time with a nice guy. Most of the guys down here, while good looking, are nightmares.[/QUOTE]I'd totally date you if I was down their I'd sure love to practice on that stripper pole if I was down their Wed. Be having wet tshirt contest and oil wrestling events now that sure beats just hanging out plus you can have a meal or 2 while we spent our time together big kisses silk.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;1904887]I'd totally date you if I was down their I'd sure love to practice on that stripper pole if I was down their Wed. Be having wet tshirt contest and oil wrestling events now that sure beats just hanging out plus you can have a meal or 2 while we spent our time together big kisses silk.[/QUOTE]Grab a couple spinners and make a road trip. I can cook too baby.

Feed this fat kid! Oh yeah, that's 'fat' with a 'ph'. No double chins on this gal LMFAO!

Regardless of popular belief, man juice does not contain enough 'protein' to sustain my metabolism...

But hey, if you want to replenish my energy reserves after attempting to drain them, let's go! I'm not one to turn down free food. Just ask silk. She always bribes me with food tee he he...

Kisses,

Molly

I read the SW board out of morbid curiosity from time to time; and every other post mentions girls who are visibly high, addicted, or in an advanced state of physical deterioration due to the drug lifestyle. Many posts talk about "so-and-so was a great SW, but now she weighs 80 lbs and is covered with sores." Sexy? Not.

I've been a hobbyist since 1992. That doesn't make me omniscient; but it is 20+ years of experience.

In that time, I've certainly run across the occasional outcall escort who was high on something. However, I can also tell you that these were rare exceptions, and I have never run across a woman with track marks (and yes, I do check if I have reason to doubt).

For example: A few weeks ago I saw May of EE. Clear as a bell, going to college, and capable of intelligent conversation. Definitely not high. Definitely clean and girl-next-door.

And that is fairly typical of my experience, since the year Bill Clinton was elected president.

I agree that the online presence of low-end CL providers and "street-scorts" (whom I avoid like the plague) blur some of the categories. I also agree with the poster who notes that higher prices are no guarantee of safety.

But that's like saying that drunk driving is perfectly safe and advisable, because people who drive sober sometimes have car accidents. Health issues aside, I have to wonder about guys who deliberately seek out the company of hard-core drug addicts, which almost all of the SWs seem to be.

Again, I base these opinions not on what I imagine, but on what some of you are actually reporting in the SW forums.

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;1904657]Apologies, my rant was health and safety but veers into market / quality conditions. But funny you should comment, you're one the dudes mixing it up.

I'll take my chances any day with Escort over a drug addicted, destitute, downtrodden woman. Well, at least some. Draw all the lines you want with number of partners, escorts recklessly doing BBFS, and other shit but my point and the problem becomes crystal clear.

You see no difference between a SW and an Escort / Working girl. And some of the ladies with their behavior and continuance to see your type have helped to blur that line.

Exactly the mindset to which I was trying to get to. And you're points only further my point better than I did.

It's a free board, comment on what you want, where you want. I'm just interested in the mindset of the "Escorts" that are so reference heavy vesting people and look down your posts and see your hawking SW's and don't have any standards, when I though they did. Their ad's and posts act as so. If I were a ladie, I'd refuse to see you. And I wish efforts like mine would drive women out that do, so you'll be able to dedicate all your time to SW's and them alone. But my other point was that your mindset is now causing an infusion of less than quality chicks on the board. And the amount of guys bitching about rates of quality girls. Why wouldn't they? You guys are paying $20-60 dollars for a car hop.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;1904907]Feed this fat kid! Oh yeah, that's 'fat' with a 'ph'. No double chins on this gal LMFAO!

Regardless of popular belief, man juice does not contain enough 'protein' to sustain my metabolism...

But hey, if you want to replenish my energy reserves after attempting to drain them, let's go! I'm not one to turn down free food. Just ask silk. She always bribes me with food tee he he...

Kisses,

Molly[/QUOTE]Its true I do and it totally works hahaha.

[QUOTE=BigBird69;1899231]I'm calling you a douche. The tail you get makes me hate you more every day!

-BigBird69.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;1899340]I thought so, well played sir. Tip o the hat.

On deck for tomorrow [url]http://www.platynum.info/Modelos/Azul.htm[/url] It will be the first time so I don't know if it will be any good or not.[/QUOTE]Instead of calling A2 a douche why don't you man up and fly down to BA?

Did you know that if you mix vodka with an Arnold Palmer it's called a John Daily? I'm on my 3rd so my filter is gone. Fair warning. I've been off for a while because free pussy keeps falling into my lap. I'm trying to get caught up with the Octagon but this is as far as I got. Just a tip for you other Aholes, condense that shit. If you write a paragraph that is 24 sentences long I'm not going to read it. I know your mad and you want to rant but I just don't care. I know I've read some good posts from BigBird69 before but fuck man. A2 is really nice. If you went to BA he would meet up with you and help you out.

Dude, you must really be wasted if you could not tell the joking manner in which I posted that. I am pretty sure that A2 understood that I was not being anywhere close to serious with that post. Jealous maybe, but not serious.

Maybe when you sober up it will read different to you LOL.

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=EricDraven;1906536]Instead of calling A2 a douche why don't you man up and fly down to BA?

Did you know that if you mix vodka with an Arnold Palmer it's called a John Daily? I'm on my 3rd so my filter is gone. Fair warning. I've been off for a while because free pussy keeps falling into my lap. I'm trying to get caught up with the Octagon but this is as far as I got. Just a tip for you other Aholes, condense that shit. If you write a paragraph that is 24 sentences long I'm not going to read it. I know your mad and you want to rant but I just don't care. I know I've read some good posts from BigBird69 before but fuck man. A2 is really nice. If you went to BA he would meet up with you and help you out.[/QUOTE]